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Posted by: Sparky Aug 27 2003, 10:00 AM

I posted a perfect set of heat exchangers for sale on this list and got a reply from Mark Grillo. He is trying to scam me by "sending a check for $4500" and I am to "send the balance" back to him in US curreny. This is a scam, usually from Nigeria, but currently from UK. Beware anyone selling parts to this person.

Posted by: Randal Aug 27 2003, 10:11 AM

More than one.

This guy (love the name) tried somewhat the same routine with my fuchs that I've had for sale.

Big long explaination about how he wanted the "Fuchs" and would I send him the balance of a check that he would have forwarded to me from a US company that owed him for work done for them.

I asked him what he was going to run the Fuchs on..... He said, "thanks for that but you shouldn't worry about that. " (The first clue!)

Posted by: Randal Aug 27 2003, 10:14 AM

That's weird. I had the guy's name in the body of the message and it didn't post.

The name is Malcom Yukick

The e-mail he used was: malcolm_200@dbzmail.com

Posted by: Dave_Darling Aug 27 2003, 10:41 AM

Just tell him that you need to wait for the check to clear. Once you have the check, call the bank it's drawn on and talk to them about it. Also call the local D.A. or the local post office--mail fraud is actually their beat.

--DD

Posted by: Sparky Aug 27 2003, 06:20 PM

Actually, the US Gov't is powerless to do anything about these $ssholes. When I called to report it they said basically "take a number but don't wait to be called".

Posted by: Rob Ways Aug 27 2003, 06:24 PM

This scam is rampant. Just say no to anything but cash or a check for the asking price.

Also, beware of the call me back at (xxx) xxx-xxxx. Its a scam as well. They'll tell you they're calling from San Diego or somewhere, but the number is a Carribean or S American number where they'll charge you $25 per minute to call.

You end up with a big phone bill and you're hosed because - you made the phone call.

Posted by: bmendel Aug 27 2003, 06:32 PM

the real scam is that the bank will generally release the funds after 1-3 days for a cashiers check, 7-10 days for a regular check whether it has cleared or not, but it will take longer than that to find that it is a fake check. Many people confuse the bank releasing the funds with the check being good. They think "the bank has relesed the funds, the check is good" Not the case, and you are liable a couple weeks later when they find out the check's bad. That why the scammers asks that you send them the difference when the bank releases the funds. These guys were all over the sellers on the 912 registry, I think at lease one person got scammed.

Posted by: Lawrence Aug 28 2003, 08:52 AM

If you get an answer from a scammer like that, please post all of his info for the Admins to read. We'll go in and block the SOB.

Info we need: user name and email address.

-Rusty

Posted by: -P- Aug 28 2003, 09:16 AM

Make sure to get the IP address too, if they are a user here, if not it can sometimes be retrieved from the header of the email. Then we can have some real fun.

Posted by: Part Pricer Aug 28 2003, 09:18 AM

How are you going to do that? You don't need to be a registered user to respond to the classified listings.

Posted by: tryan Aug 28 2003, 09:20 AM

tell them you are selling the heat exchangers for a buddy and give him alfreds email.

Posted by: Lawrence Aug 28 2003, 09:32 AM

We have ban filters for email addresses, of both registered and non-registered users.

Yes, an IP address (forward mail with header) would be useful.

-Rusty

Posted by: Aaron Cox Aug 28 2003, 09:35 AM

lets put the dudes email address into all kinds of mailing lists eh?

Posted by: Sparky Aug 29 2003, 06:04 PM

Here is his address:

mark grillo [mark_grillo@mail.com]

Give em he11 boys.

Posted by: -P- Aug 29 2003, 06:58 PM

Do me a favor, right click on the message (if your using Outlook, or Outlook express) and choose properties, then view the message header. Copy the whole thing here minus the actual message part if you dont want us to see. This has to be from an email he has sent you.

Posted by: Brad Roberts Aug 30 2003, 12:56 AM

I'm very close to blocking ALL email from Yahoo/MSN/Mail.com/Hotmail on my exchange server. The people run scripts that create 1000's of email addresses on these free sites and use them to spam other people.


So.. if you plan on emailing me any time soon... your going to have to get a real email address or PM me thru the site (like 90% of the people do).


B

Posted by: Travis Neff Aug 30 2003, 10:31 AM

Be aware that since this scam is going through the us postal service, this becomes mail fraud - which is a felony