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Posted by: olav Jan 11 2006, 11:36 AM

http://www.carsclassic.com/stock/1970%20PORSCHE%20CUSTOM.htm

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Here is a car for anybody that wants to have something different and never see another one on the street and yet still have a Porsche. Based on a 1970 Porsche 914 the car was pretty much completely re-fabricated from there on up. The engine is a 2.7 litre 6-cylinder Porsche with fuel injection coupled to a Porsche 911 5-speed gearbox. Both units were rebuilt and have about 1,000 miles on them. The body itself is an all steel custom design utilizing a 1989 Porsche Speedster windshield, doors, side glass and convertible top. A 928 rear is utilized with custom covers over the tail lights. Headlights are Nissan 300ZX again with custom covers. The brakes come from a 1987 Porsche Turbo and it has 15 inch CEC ATEV wheels at the front with 18 inch versions at the rear and fitted with Pirelli P Zeros, 295-35 rears and 225-50 fronts. Suspension is coil over with Koni shocks. Interior wise the car once again is pretty custom, with specially built seats, customized gauges, custom steering wheel, German wool carpet and 5-point racing style seatbelts. Finished in Guards Red with Mauve toned interior and convertible top.

$30K

Posted by: Rockaria Jan 11 2006, 11:37 AM

DO these tail lights make my BUTT look big?

Posted by: blitZ Jan 11 2006, 11:44 AM

It's got a big butt.

Posted by: Headrage Jan 11 2006, 11:46 AM

Those headlight covers look like something off of a Nissan NSX.

Posted by: mrdezyne Jan 11 2006, 11:46 AM

Hmmmmmm? I have no idea what to say... so like my mammy used to tell me, I just won't say anything at all.....

Second thought, those 300zx headlights might have promise if they were not covered with those goofy grilles......

Posted by: Jenny Jan 11 2006, 11:49 AM

Seriously. That's a teener? Looks like you barfed ON IT, Olav.

Jen

Posted by: seanery Jan 11 2006, 11:50 AM

I actually know quite a bit about this car. The owner loves 300zx's and wanted his 914 to look like one. Everything is custom and not done too well. The rear deck is made with a ton of bondo. He's asking $29k. I wouldn't pay $2900 for this car. It was in the shop VERY OFTEN.

Oh, but the paint is red

Posted by: fiid Jan 11 2006, 11:51 AM

Well - it's different. It at least looks reasonably polished. Hey - AT least it's ALL PORSCHE and not one of these crappy bowtie/subaru conversions....

Posted by: Nick Jan 11 2006, 11:53 AM

I don't like the car, but a think the speedster windshield looks cool

Posted by: Carl Jan 11 2006, 11:58 AM

Olav,
Makes you appreciate your car, doesn't it?

Posted by: JmuRiz Jan 11 2006, 11:58 AM

Looks like he forgot to design a way to look at the engine, haha.
Guess you'd have to drop the motor to even change the air filter?

Posted by: Sideways Jan 11 2006, 01:08 PM

Its a 914116428!

Posted by: MattR Jan 11 2006, 01:10 PM

It looks like someone took 15 cars, rolled them up into one, and smoked it

Posted by: bd1308 Jan 11 2006, 01:11 PM

it didnt make me barf....it turned my bowels to pure liquid.

b

Posted by: vesnyder Jan 11 2006, 01:12 PM

It's a Miata, right?

Posted by: 9146986 Jan 11 2006, 01:38 PM

QUOTE (bd1308 @ Jan 11 2006, 11:11 AM)

it didnt make me barf....it turned my bowels to pure liquid. b

TMI TMI TMI



aw c'mon y'all thats cooool

Posted by: Dr. Roger Jan 11 2006, 01:44 PM

looks like a 300ZX356928.

Posted by: seanery Jan 11 2006, 02:04 PM

I don't remember it being a 914 vin, methinks it was a 474.

Posted by: ninefourteener Jan 11 2006, 02:12 PM

It's a Porschecopia.

Posted by: dbledsoe Jan 11 2006, 02:14 PM

QUOTE (fiid @ Jan 11 2006, 11:51 AM)

Well - it's different.  It at least looks reasonably polished.  Hey - AT least it's ALL PORSCHE and not one of these crappy bowtie/subaru conversions....

I agree with you on the crappy bowtie/subaru conversions. I'm glad to see you didn't include the too cool Buick V6 conversions.

Posted by: neo914-6 Jan 11 2006, 02:25 PM

This is the one Brad mentioned about the ZX light, interesting he said nothing negative about it.

It's no longer a 914 with almost nothing of original design. It's now one of hundred's of kit or remanufactured cars.

The styling leaves much to be desired IMO, gimick light covers F&B, luggage rack on a restyled rear deck, 928 rear end that gives a large mass, large mirrors on the fenders, and wheels that don't match or compliment the body. That said, props to the owner that got it built and running. If you realized what it takes to build a "custom" car you may appreciate it a little more...

Posted by: Rand Jan 11 2006, 02:35 PM

I respect the amazing amount of work he put into it. But man, if I had that much work into my car it sure wouldn't look like that. Different strokes.

Looks like it pulls all it's cooling air through the side ports? Is that enough to keep it cool?

Posted by: rhodyguy Jan 11 2006, 02:44 PM

one man's pig, is another man's sandwich. $30k?

k

Posted by: double-a Jan 11 2006, 02:44 PM

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Posted by: Root_Werks Jan 11 2006, 02:50 PM

Posted by: double-a Jan 11 2006, 02:52 PM

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Posted by: r_towle Jan 11 2006, 02:55 PM

QUOTE (neo914-6 @ Jan 11 2006, 03:25 PM)

This is the one Brad mentioned about the ZX light, interesting he said nothing negative about it. It's no longer a 914 with almost nothing of original design. It's now one of hundred's of kit or remanufactured cars. The styling leaves much to be desired IMO, gimick light covers F&B, luggage rack on a restyled rear deck, 928 rear end that gives a large mass, large mirrors on the fenders, and wheels that don't match or compliment the body. That said, props to the owner that got it built and running. If you realized what it takes to build a "custom" car you may appreciate it a little more...

though that speedster windshield is worth a closer look...

It fits better and takes the boxy look out of that area....

Rich

Posted by: Rand Jan 11 2006, 03:04 PM

QUOTE (double-a @ Jan 11 2006, 12:52 PM)

Haaa ha hahahah hahaaaa!!!!!!! Nice photo editing double-a!

I was laughing with you on the first one... Class???? But the second one is clASSic!!!

:roflmao:

Posted by: Tom Perso Jan 11 2006, 03:11 PM

That plate *should* read... "Cars that look like Ass"



Tom

Posted by: Dead Air Jan 11 2006, 04:53 PM

QUOTE (Tom Perso @ Jan 11 2006, 01:11 PM)

That plate *should* read... "Cars that look like Ass" Tom

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I still can't read it

"Cars with 'glass"?

Posted by: grasshopper Jan 11 2006, 08:29 PM

where's the 914??? seriously, i cant see it....

Posted by: dbledsoe Jan 11 2006, 10:21 PM

QUOTE (neo914-6 @ Jan 11 2006, 02:25 PM)

If you realized what it takes to build a "custom" car you may appreciate it a little more...

I think it's all in the "Vision." Just because one actually builds a "custom car" that doesn't validate their "vision" (actually their lack thereof) with regards to the finished product. Research a bit on custom car history and you'll find plenty of custom cars built that involved some incredibly ingenious specialized work that ended up looking like because the designer lacked vision. Custom work for the sake of custom work won't cut it. It's got to come together, and this piece of doesn't.

If the stupid ass wanted a 300 ZX he should have bought one instead of ruining a good 914. The 914 just is. Accept it, or find something else to screw up.

Posted by: neo914-6 Jan 12 2006, 12:28 AM

QUOTE (dbledsoe @ Jan 11 2006, 08:21 PM)

QUOTE (neo914-6 @ Jan 11 2006, 02:25 PM) If you realized what it takes to build a "custom" car you may appreciate it a little more... I think it's all in the "Vision." Just because one actually builds a "custom car" that doesn't validate their "vision" (actually their lack thereof) with regards to the finished product. Research a bit on custom car history and you'll find plenty of custom cars built that involved some incredibly ingenious specialized work that ended up looking like because the designer lacked vision. Custom work for the sake of custom work won't cut it. It's got to come together, and this piece of doesn't. If the stupid ass wanted a 300 ZX he should have bought one instead of ruining a good 914. The 914 just is. Accept it, or find something else to screw up.

It's more than "vision." You almost had it, there is creative design and craftsmanship and both are necessary. It was a good day when custom car builders started to use trained and gifted designers because they already had the execution but needed the design process. Designers draw from many ideas, refine, mock up, visualize, collaborate, and develop them into a deliberate design.

It's ironic that 914 owners can be so defensive of a design that most people consider ugly. When someone tries to do what they feel is an improvement, people on this board tend to trash it. Must be a mob mentality.

The red car has a few good and many unrefined body features. It could be improved if the owner were open to development. Unrefinement is usually caused by lack of time, money, or an insular personality...

Posted by: Jenny Jan 12 2006, 01:33 AM

QUOTE (neo914-6 @ Jan 11 2006, 12:25 PM)

This is the one Brad mentioned about the ZX light, interesting he said nothing negative about it.

If you're talking about Bradhole, ironically, he never has negative things to say about other people's cars. He usually just chalks it up to a difference in taste, just because it's different from what he would have done, doesn't make it wrong or bad.

Jen

Posted by: jonwatts Jan 12 2006, 02:19 AM

QUOTE (Jenny @ Jan 11 2006, 11:33 PM)

If you're talking about Bradhole, ironically, he never has negative things to say about other people's cars. He usually just chalks it up to a difference in taste

When it comes to esthetics, yes. But do something technical that he thinks is stoopid and you'll hear about it.

When it comes to vision I'm not sure I have it. I have ideas that I think are good enough to attempt, but I don't (or can't) always visualize what the end result will be. This can lead to problems where design elements don't flow together well. I wish I could sketch better.

And after staring at countless pictures for countless hours I've really come to appreciate how nice an original or well restored 914 looks. Not that I'll ever own one like that. I like my cars a little messed up so I don't feel bad doing stuff to 'em.

Posted by: Rob Ways Jan 12 2006, 02:39 AM

Mmmm... not what I'd do to a 914..... but hey.... somebody must have loved her!

Posted by: Scott Carlberg Jan 12 2006, 03:12 AM

QUOTE (blitZ @ Jan 11 2006, 09:44 AM)

It's got a big butt.  :rolleyes:

Now when you say big, do you really mean FUGLY???

Posted by: dbledsoe Jan 12 2006, 09:00 AM

QUOTE (neo914-6 @ Jan 12 2006, 12:28 AM)

It's ironic that 914 owners can be so defensive of a design that most people consider ugly.  When someone tries to do what they feel is an improvement, people on this board tend to trash it.  Must be a mob mentality.  :screwy:

I don't think it's being defensive, it's more like we know something most people don't. And it's certainly not a mob mentality. It's called "Taste." Some have it, some don't. In your case, I think you do. Your Neo-914 project is well thought out and tasteful, at least the concept drawings appear so. If it is executed as planned you'll have a tastefully modified 914 whose parent lineage is clearly evident. I can't say that about the red buttbomb above.

Posted by: 9146986 Jan 12 2006, 09:36 AM

I'd like to see it firsthand. Some cars look better in photos than others, some cars look better in person.

I've always wondered what it would look like to build a flared car with that kind of side air inlet, and a slope nose.

The guy who owns it loves it, I'm sure and isn't that the most important thing? At least it's not on jackstands and he can drive it.......

Posted by: seanery Jan 12 2006, 09:50 AM

I've seen and touched this car (pushed this car) several times. The pictures make it look nicer than it is...like a 10 footer, ya know?

Posted by: RON S. Jan 12 2006, 10:14 AM

QUOTE (seanery @ Jan 11 2006, 09:50 AM)

Everything is custom and not done too well. The rear deck is made with a ton of bondo. He's asking $29k.. It was in the shop VERY OFTEN. Oh, but the paint is red

This just goes to show that people without a job,and have a lotta money can be sometimes dangerous.

Remember the phrase about idle hands are the devils work?


If he's asking $29,000.00 for the car,he's probably spent close to 40k to get it to it's current state.Assuming he's sub'd out all the work.

Let's look at it this way, if memory serves me right,a couple years back,40k woulda put the Ernie King 3.8l ORIGINAL 914/6 in your driveway.


I know lots of people,as we all do that literally waste money.But,I've always felt that if someone wants to literally throw his or her money in the street,please advertise the event so that some some people can attend and catch some of it who can actually put it to good use.


Ron

Posted by: neo914-6 Jan 12 2006, 09:01 PM

QUOTE (jonwatts @ Jan 12 2006, 12:19 AM)

When it comes to vision I'm not sure I have it. I have ideas that I think are good enough to attempt, but I don't (or can't) always visualize what the end result will be. This can lead to problems where design elements don't flow together well. I wish I could sketch better. And after staring at countless pictures for countless hours I've really come to appreciate how nice an original or well restored 914 looks. Not that I'll ever own one like that. I like my cars a little messed up so I don't feel bad doing stuff to 'em.

Jon, let me know what ideas you have for your car. When I have some time I'll "embellish" them for you. There are alot of ideas I couldn't use on my car.

I've come around, my first neo914 was the Chalon but it substituted 914 styling for 80's 911ish. Now I love the original design and hope the modern refinement is complimentary...