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Posted by: alpha434 Jan 16 2006, 01:31 PM
Seriously guys. Have a couple tough ones.
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Posted by: alpha434 Jan 16 2006, 01:32 PM
CRAP!!! Wrong picture!!!
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Posted by: dmenche914 Jan 16 2006, 01:33 PM
a seat belt and a saab sonett.
like them cars, fiber glass body V4 engine
Posted by: alpha434 Jan 16 2006, 01:36 PM
smooth move. Except this one had the early inline two stroke three banger
Posted by: bondo Jan 16 2006, 01:37 PM
It'd be harder if it didn't say SAAB right on the front. 
Posted by: SLITS Jan 16 2006, 01:38 PM
I'll take Ursla Andress & the competiton belt............
Posted by: alpha434 Jan 16 2006, 01:40 PM
ECK!!! Damn!!! SAAB ON THE LICENSE PLATE!!!! GOD!!!
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Posted by: alpha434 Jan 16 2006, 01:42 PM
thats a cool seat belt, right guys? I'm thinking about getting aeroplane seats to match it.
Posted by: bondo Jan 16 2006, 01:44 PM
1958 packard.. last one and my favorite.. they used to have one at the Towe auto museum in Sacramento.
Posted by: jd74914 Jan 16 2006, 01:45 PM
| QUOTE (alpha434 @ Jan 16 2006, 02:42 PM) |
| thats a cool seat belt, right guys? I'm thinking about getting aeroplane seats to match it. |
are you serious
not at all
why would you put what look like P51 belts into a car. the thing must be atleast 60 years old
BTW the car guessing game was started by Gustl whose german (IIRC) forum does it, and he poses the questions over here for answers
Posted by: bondo Jan 16 2006, 01:47 PM
| QUOTE (jd74914 @ Jan 16 2006, 12:45 PM) | ||
are you serious not at all why would you put what look like P51 belts into a car. the thing must be atleast 60 years old |
I think the P-51 ENGINE would be fun in a 914...
(I've seen pics of an allison V12 aircraft engine hacked into an Opel GT in mid engine config.. )
Posted by: tdgray Jan 16 2006, 01:50 PM
Yep... Packard Hawk.
Jeeeeeez Junior at least give a hard one if you gonna try to play with the big boys 
Posted by: jd74914 Jan 16 2006, 01:52 PM
| QUOTE (bondo @ Jan 16 2006, 02:47 PM) | ||||
I think the P-51 ENGINE would be fun in a 914... (I've seen pics of an allison V12 aircraft engine hacked into an Opel GT in mid engine config.. ) |
Didn't think of that, you don't happen to have pics of the Opel GT do you?
Posted by: dheinz Jan 16 2006, 01:53 PM
Wow! That Packard sure looks like a 57 Stude Hawk with a big hoover style,full width air scoop front end.
Posted by: SLITS Jan 16 2006, 01:54 PM
Hell, it was only 1500 hp in P51 configuration....whata wussy engine...
Posted by: jd74914 Jan 16 2006, 01:56 PM
| QUOTE (dheinz @ Jan 16 2006, 02:53 PM) |
| Wow! That Packard sure looks like a 57 Stude Hawk with a big hoover style,full width air scoop front end. |
thats what i thought initially too
Posted by: SLITS Jan 16 2006, 01:59 PM
1958 Packard Hawk
The 1958 Packard Hawk Coupe was a restyled Studebaker Hawk.
Posted by: alpha434 Jan 16 2006, 01:59 PM
| QUOTE (bondo @ Jan 16 2006, 11:44 AM) |
| 1958 packard.. last one and my favorite.. they used to have one at the Towe auto museum in Sacramento. |
NICE. You're good. We're going to get harder fast though.
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Posted by: alpha434 Jan 16 2006, 02:02 PM
| QUOTE (jd74914 @ Jan 16 2006, 11:52 AM) | ||||||
Didn't think of that, you don't happen to have pics of the Opel GT do you? |
HERE. But I'm not fulfilling requests.
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Posted by: bondo Jan 16 2006, 02:04 PM
| QUOTE (jd74914 @ Jan 16 2006, 12:52 PM) | ||||||
Didn't think of that, you don't happen to have pics of the Opel GT do you? |
I just searched for pics, no luck. Just dead ebay links.
Posted by: dheinz Jan 16 2006, 02:06 PM
67 BristolType410 ?
Posted by: alpha434 Jan 16 2006, 02:08 PM
HA ITS a bristol 406!!! You lose!
Posted by: jd74914 Jan 16 2006, 02:10 PM
| QUOTE (alpha434 @ Jan 16 2006, 03:02 PM) | ||||||||
HERE. But I'm not fulfilling requests. |
I know what an Opel GT looks like, I was looking for a pic of one with an allison v12 in the middle
Posted by: jd74914 Jan 16 2006, 02:15 PM
for alpha who knows all 
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Posted by: alpha434 Jan 16 2006, 02:19 PM
oh. Just happened to have one.
Next pic.
This one should be hard. Hehe.
Posted by: alpha434 Jan 16 2006, 02:20 PM
whoops wrong button. Here.
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Posted by: alpha434 Jan 16 2006, 02:23 PM
| QUOTE (jd74914 @ Jan 16 2006, 12:15 PM) |
| for alpha who knows all : |
Morgan Plus 8
Posted by: alpha434 Jan 16 2006, 02:24 PM
wait its not. Um
Posted by: jd74914 Jan 16 2006, 02:27 PM
1946 kaiser
and nope
Posted by: alpha434 Jan 16 2006, 02:28 PM
is that one of those new 400,000$ morgans?
Posted by: bondo Jan 16 2006, 02:29 PM
| QUOTE (jd74914 @ Jan 16 2006, 01:27 PM) |
| 1946 kaiser and nope |
I thought it was a 48.
Posted by: jd74914 Jan 16 2006, 02:30 PM
nope sorry slits
hint: its a little over 20 years old
bondo, i looked in my 1940s american book, and that said it was a 46, it could be wrong tho.
Posted by: alpha434 Jan 16 2006, 02:31 PM
Jordan?
Delahaye?
Tucker?
Auburn?
1930 Cord L-29 speedster?
Posted by: alpha434 Jan 16 2006, 02:32 PM
It's a stupid rolls royce? 20 years old?!?!
Posted by: jd74914 Jan 16 2006, 02:32 PM
nope
anyone give yet ![popcorn[1].gif](http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/popcorn[1].gif)
Posted by: SLITS Jan 16 2006, 02:33 PM
repost.....it's a Kaiser
Posted by: bondo Jan 16 2006, 02:33 PM
Looks like a pointier version of the zimmer.
Posted by: SLITS Jan 16 2006, 02:34 PM
| QUOTE (jd74914 @ Jan 16 2006, 01:32 PM) |
| nope anyone give yet |
Copy of a Duese.......?
Posted by: jd74914 Jan 16 2006, 02:35 PM
| QUOTE (SLITS @ Jan 16 2006, 03:34 PM) | ||
Copy of a Duese.......? |
nope
its extemely rare, only 15 ever built, often built on ford torino chasis, but by an independent coachworks
Posted by: alpha434 Jan 16 2006, 02:35 PM
yeah. the kaiser pictured was the "Kaiser custom" and it was only manufactured 47-48. Good job bondo. Have a cookie.
Posted by: alpha434 Jan 16 2006, 02:38 PM
What?!? I'm sticking to full run production models!
I'm gonna put a pic of a porsche "gt2000" 356 on there.
You guys would never know what it was. Wait. Damn.
Posted by: alpha434 Jan 16 2006, 02:40 PM
ok. What kind of engine does it have? I can google that.
Posted by: jd74914 Jan 16 2006, 02:40 PM
I'm out too much to do today . . .
1984 Gatsby Griffin Sceptre for those interested
Posted by: alpha434 Jan 16 2006, 02:43 PM
worth what 250,000$?
Posted by: alpha434 Jan 16 2006, 02:45 PM
Not even recognized by the classic car club of america.
Posted by: alpha434 Jan 16 2006, 02:47 PM
here. This one's a new car by an american company.
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Posted by: bondo Jan 16 2006, 02:47 PM
| QUOTE (alpha434 @ Jan 16 2006, 01:40 PM) |
| ok. What kind of engine does it have? I can google that. |
It's got a "search" engine!
hahaha, I kill me.
Posted by: bondo Jan 16 2006, 02:51 PM
| QUOTE (alpha434 @ Jan 16 2006, 01:47 PM) |
| here. This one's a new car by an american company. |
Shelby Series 1
Posted by: alpha434 Jan 16 2006, 02:53 PM
DAMN YOU! Gwaaa.
now its going to get really hard.
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Posted by: JmuRiz Jan 16 2006, 02:58 PM
AstonMartin Lagonda
Posted by: alpha434 Jan 16 2006, 03:00 PM
astin martin didn't own lagonda at the time.
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Posted by: alpha434 Jan 16 2006, 03:01 PM
wrong picture.
I'm gonna get a thousand posts in no time.
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Posted by: alpha434 Jan 16 2006, 03:04 PM
the paint came stok all f#@%ed up like that.
Posted by: bondo Jan 16 2006, 03:05 PM
1978 mustang king cobra
Posted by: dmenche914 Jan 16 2006, 03:07 PM
It's true, i saw it also, for sale on Ebay, golly, maybe two years ago. It only went for about $10-15k as I recall, real low i thought cause that engine to a war bird collector has got to be worth many times that, and it was a real fighter plane engine that was to supposed to run (maybe not airplane certified anymore, but hell I think "cores" of them old motors would sell for more than the winning bid.
Yeah your right, the early sonnet was the 2 cycle, it had a full tilt up bonnet (like a triumph Spitfire) the later ones not only had a four cycle, had a tiny little hood to acess the engine (no more tilt up bonnet), and pop up headlights (manual operated), redesigned rear. They are front drive, with the transaxle behind the engine. The seats at least in the later ones look almost the same as stock 914 seats (mandatory 914 content). The V4 was a european Ford design.
Futuristic car at its time.
Posted by: alpha434 Jan 16 2006, 03:11 PM
| QUOTE (dmenche914 @ Jan 16 2006, 01:07 PM) |
| It's true, i saw it also, for sale on Ebay, golly, maybe two years ago. It only went for about $10-15k as I recall, real low i thought cause that engine to a war bird collector has got to be worth many times that, and it was a real fighter plane engine that was to supposed to run (maybe not airplane certified anymore, but hell I think "cores" of them old motors would sell for more than the winning bid. Yeah your right, the early sonnet was the 2 cycle, it had a full tilt up bonnet (like a triumph Spitfire) the later ones not only had a four cycle, had a tiny little hood to acess the engine (no more tilt up bonnet), and pop up headlights (manual operated), redesigned rear. They are front drive, with the transaxle behind the engine. The seats at least in the later ones look almost the same as stock 914 seats (mandatory 914 content). The V4 was a european Ford design. Futuristic car at its time. |
yeah its a king cobra. How about you guys tell me how much you know about cars first. Then I'll come back tommorow with a picture of an Abarth Porsche. Wait. Damn.
Posted by: alpha434 Jan 16 2006, 03:13 PM
here
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Posted by: Gustl Jan 16 2006, 03:22 PM
NSU Wankel Spider
Posted by: boxstr Jan 16 2006, 03:36 PM
You still haven't got this one.
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Posted by: bernbomb914 Jan 16 2006, 03:39 PM
are you sure that wasnt a fraizer insead of a kaiser?
Bernie
Posted by: tdgray Jan 16 2006, 03:48 PM
| QUOTE (boxstr @ Jan 16 2006, 05:36 PM) |
| You still haven't got this one. |
Your freakin killin' me with that one Craig.
Oh and alpha ... good god man ya gotta at least make it hard... best leave this to the older crowd for the hard stuff (no offense Craig)
Posted by: alpha434 Jan 16 2006, 03:50 PM
old jagular thing?
I dont know. A hackjob of two things duct taped together?
Got to go make some parts. Bye guys.
Posted by: alpha434 Jan 16 2006, 03:52 PM
and screw you! I'm trying as hard as i can!!!
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Posted by: grantsfo Jan 16 2006, 06:12 PM
What is the red car in this picture?
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Posted by: echocanyons Jan 16 2006, 06:15 PM
How a bout his one
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Posted by: black73 Jan 16 2006, 06:22 PM
| QUOTE (grantsfo @ Jan 16 2006, 06:12 PM) |
| What is the red car in this picture? |
ugly!
Posted by: SLITS Jan 16 2006, 06:23 PM
Red Car is a Datsun 510
Posted by: seanery Jan 16 2006, 06:29 PM
| QUOTE (echocanyons @ Jan 16 2006, 07:15 PM) |
| How a bout his one |
isnt' this a Butler-bodied custom 356? Wait, was it Beutler?
Posted by: grantsfo Jan 16 2006, 06:30 PM
| QUOTE (SLITS @ Jan 16 2006, 04:23 PM) |
| Red Car is a Datsun 510 |
Since when did Datsun make rear engined 510's?
Posted by: SLITS Jan 16 2006, 06:31 PM
| QUOTE (grantsfo @ Jan 16 2006, 05:30 PM) | ||
Since when did Datsun make rear engined 510's? |
So, exactly how do I tell it rear engined from a front straight shot
Posted by: KaptKaos Jan 16 2006, 06:35 PM
| QUOTE (jd74914 @ Jan 16 2006, 12:15 PM) |
| for alpha who knows all : |
A Clenet?
Posted by: KaptKaos Jan 16 2006, 06:36 PM
| QUOTE (grantsfo @ Jan 16 2006, 04:12 PM) |
| What is the red car in this picture? |
Imp/Chamois (really tweaked one at that)
Posted by: boxstr Jan 16 2006, 06:40 PM
Red car looks like a Sunbeam Stiletto?
CCL
Posted by: richardmosselman Jan 16 2006, 06:42 PM
Hillman Imp was my guess too!
Posted by: grantsfo Jan 16 2006, 06:45 PM
| QUOTE (KaptKaos @ Jan 16 2006, 04:36 PM) | ||
Imp/Chamois (really tweaked one at that) |
Wow that was great! You really have to know the car well to figure that one out.
OK how about this one?
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Posted by: Rrrockhound Jan 16 2006, 06:47 PM
Borgward
Posted by: kwales Jan 16 2006, 07:03 PM
The silver grey one is a Monteverdi 375 series..
The pink one is a Barbiemobile....
Ken
Posted by: grantsfo Jan 16 2006, 07:05 PM
| QUOTE (Rrrockhound @ Jan 16 2006, 04:47 PM) |
| Borgward |
You guys are too good!
Posted by: boxstr Jan 16 2006, 07:16 PM
Silver car is a Monteverdi 375S Fissore Highspeed Berlinetta
CCLINSCM
Posted by: Rrrockhound Jan 16 2006, 07:18 PM
My turn:
Posted by: echocanyons Jan 16 2006, 07:58 PM
| QUOTE |
| snt' this a Butler-bodied custom 356? Wait, was it Beutler? |
your on the right track but no.
Yes Buetler was a coachbuilder that used 356 parts.
Posted by: boxstr Jan 16 2006, 08:05 PM
1965 BMW Glas 3000 and a Vector.
CCLIN???
Posted by: Rrrockhound Jan 16 2006, 08:59 PM
| QUOTE (boxstr @ Jan 16 2006, 09:05 PM) |
| 1965 BMW Glas 3000 and a Vector. CCLIN??? |
Posted by: nikbern Jan 16 2006, 11:47 PM
| QUOTE (echocanyons @ Jan 16 2006, 04:15 PM) |
| How a bout his one |
Rometsch Beeskow
Posted by: Gustl Jan 16 2006, 11:48 PM
I'm sure this would take more time ... even for Craig
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Posted by: Gustl Jan 17 2006, 03:09 PM
no idea? 
Posted by: boxstr Jan 17 2006, 03:31 PM
Okay it looks like a Aston Martin Lagonda 1974 V8 series 1, but then it also looks like a Jag in the rear.
I think I have to say stumped. But it is a production car, Correct??
CCLINSTUMPED
Posted by: Howard Jan 17 2006, 03:45 PM
Other old phart stumped, too. American Racing mags? Still looking.
Posted by: Gustl Jan 17 2006, 03:50 PM
| QUOTE (boxstr @ Jan 17 2006, 10:31 PM) |
| But it is a production car, Correct?? |
at least it was a production car - no mass production though
Posted by: goose2 Jan 17 2006, 03:59 PM
Montiverdi?
Posted by: echocanyons Jan 17 2006, 04:02 PM
| QUOTE |
Rometsch Beeskow |
Yup nice job nikbern
Posted by: thesey914 Jan 17 2006, 05:06 PM
Its german and its a b.....a B......dammit i can't remember on the tip of my tongue.
BITTER?
Posted by: boxstr Jan 17 2006, 09:32 PM
Not a Bitter nor a Monteverdi. What is that thing.
CCL
Posted by: Gustl Jan 17 2006, 11:42 PM
a little hint - it's NOT german
Posted by: boxstr Jan 17 2006, 11:55 PM
Haven't really been looking at German cars, where?
CCLIN??????
Posted by: Gustl Jan 18 2006, 01:44 AM
| QUOTE (boxstr @ Jan 18 2006, 06:55 AM) |
| CCLIN?????? |
I'd say a fair hint is: INEUROPE
Posted by: thesey914 Jan 18 2006, 02:24 AM
Rear lights remind me of a Jag XJ6.
Posted by: Gustl Jan 18 2006, 03:40 AM
| QUOTE (thesey914 @ Jan 18 2006, 09:24 AM) |
| Rear lights remind me of a Jag XJ6. |
this rear lights look more like a Jag XJ-S, IMHO
but it's no Jag ...
Posted by: thesey914 Jan 18 2006, 12:51 PM
Damnyou gustl.....comeon give us a clue
Posted by: Gustl Jan 18 2006, 01:19 PM
well, AFAIK this is the only car of the company
their origin profession had soething to do with trains/rails
first some cars had un-reliable engine, later models had a Chrysler V8
now come on guys
Posted by: johannes Jan 18 2006, 05:55 PM
I found it ! Its a Monica build by Jean Tastevin from France.
Here is a picture from the front end
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Posted by: johannes Jan 18 2006, 05:56 PM
Now it's my turn to torture you
What's that ?
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Posted by: Howard Jan 18 2006, 06:25 PM
Simca. Plein Ciel?
Posted by: boxstr Jan 18 2006, 08:35 PM
Way to go Howard, Your next. Johannes you also.
CCLINSIMCAME
Posted by: Gustl Jan 18 2006, 11:40 PM
| QUOTE (johannes @ Jan 19 2006, 12:55 AM) |
| I found it ! Its a Monica build by Jean Tastevin from France. |
btw - Monica was the name of his wife ...
Posted by: johannes Jan 19 2006, 01:54 AM
Good job Howard !
That's it ! Simca "Plein Ciel". In the background you see a black cabriolet version named "Oceane"
Posted by: thesey914 Jan 19 2006, 01:59 AM
Dammit -of course a Monica!!
Posted by: Hydra Jan 19 2006, 04:01 AM
how about this one? i know it's not a hard one... just for the fun
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Posted by: pfierb Jan 19 2006, 04:10 AM
Facel Vega
Posted by: johannes Jan 19 2006, 04:13 AM
This is a Facel Vega ... Not very difficult for a french guy
Posted by: Hydra Jan 19 2006, 04:18 AM
well done paul...
p.s: eh, johannes, t'aurais du etre hors concours pour une voiture pareille.....
Posted by: johannes Jan 19 2006, 04:22 AM
Hors concours, et pour celle-là toi aussi ! ...
A new one a bit more difficult
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Posted by: Hydra Jan 19 2006, 04:29 AM
let's spice it up a bit....
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Posted by: Hydra Jan 19 2006, 04:46 AM
johannes, is your car a british model?
Posted by: pfierb Jan 19 2006, 05:00 AM
| QUOTE (Hydra @ Jan 19 2006, 06:29 AM) |
| let's spice it up a bit.... |
talbot Lago ???
Posted by: Gustl Jan 19 2006, 05:40 AM
to be exact: Talbot-Lago T150 SS Coupe Figoni & Falaschi 1938
Posted by: pfierb Jan 19 2006, 07:15 AM
| QUOTE (Gustl @ Jan 19 2006, 07:40 AM) |
| to be exact: Talbot-Lago T150 SS Coupe Figoni & Falaschi 1938 |
Thanks Gustl couldn't remember the model.
Posted by: Hydra Jan 19 2006, 07:34 AM
gustl, you rule!!! 
Posted by: johannes Jan 19 2006, 10:17 AM
I 'll help a little ... It's a french car ...
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Posted by: pfierb Jan 19 2006, 03:56 PM
Love the tail lights and the Pep Boys hub caps !!!!!
Posted by: boxstr Jan 20 2006, 12:13 AM
Its a Rene Bonnet Le Mans 1964 Cute.
CCLINOUI
Posted by: johannes Jan 20 2006, 01:45 AM
YESSSSSSSS !!!!
WE HAVE A WINNER
Game to be continued in the "official" thread
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