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Posted by: trekkor Jan 18 2006, 07:43 PM

Tomorrow it all starts.

Gonna break it all down and start the body work.
I hope to have it DONE by next Friday.

Brandon at Altissimo Restoration (707-253-paint) will be doing the bulk of the work.

I get to do the disassembly/reassembly, welding, rear flare work, sanding, some sanding and more sanding. dry.gif

Car will be factory color light ivory with bright metalic red rally stripes and the 7"steel wheels to match stripes.

I'll be filling the side marker and antenna holes.

Rear ducktail spoiler will go from black to white and the targa top will be smooth painted with the stripes over the top of both.

Any advice?

KT

Pictures nightly rocking nana.gif

Posted by: Britain Smith Jan 18 2006, 07:55 PM

It is going to look cool Trekkor...got any drawings?

When you going to get some lighter wheels?

-Britain

Posted by: trekkor Jan 18 2006, 08:07 PM

No drawings. Stripes will be W-I-D-E with little pinstripes on each side.

No wheel plans. I need 7's.


KT

Posted by: brp914 Jan 18 2006, 08:13 PM

popcorn[1].gif 1 week?! I've had 2 p-cars stripped and painted. Each took 1 year. If you count lingering electrical issues, figure 2 years each. good luck, but uh, popcorn[1].gif

Posted by: shaggy Jan 18 2006, 08:13 PM

why not do staggered tires?

7's fron 8's in back

what rear flare work are you gonna do?

does have 8's bump you into another class for ax?

Posted by: Aaron Cox Jan 18 2006, 08:33 PM

get some real wheels... 5 lug of course... laugh.gif

Posted by: Gint Jan 18 2006, 08:48 PM

IIWM, (but it's not) I'd look into vinyl stripes so they could be removed when I decided I didn't like them any more.

Posted by: mikelsr Jan 18 2006, 08:48 PM

Brilliant! Guinness, lots of Guinness! beerchug.gif

Posted by: seanery Jan 18 2006, 09:07 PM

QUOTE (Gint @ Jan 18 2006, 09:48 PM)
IIWM, (but it's not) I'd look into vinyl stripes so they could be removed when I decided I didn't like them any more.

agree.gif and Mark has a 30" cutter.

Posted by: Eric Taylor Jan 18 2006, 09:36 PM

1 Week! ohmy.gif Good luck with that, maybe if macco does it smile.gif.Seriously, I Can't wait to see pictures I know brandon does good work.

Eric

Posted by: Always Looking Jan 18 2006, 10:46 PM

How about some progress pics - before, during and after.

Thanks thisthreadisworthlesswithoutpics.gif

Posted by: r_towle Jan 18 2006, 10:47 PM

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Posted by: Dan (Almaden Valley) Jan 18 2006, 11:18 PM

Trekkor,
If you get your car back and completed before I do I am going to be really PO'd.
Seriously,
good luck with your body and paint work. The paint scheme sounds great!
Let's see, that will be two very smooth shiney track cars at GGR events this season. biggrin.gif

Posted by: ppickerell Jan 18 2006, 11:26 PM

Don't count me out, I picked up my AA steel GT flares today and have talked to Mark about welding them on and doing the botox on the AA wrinkles. I have a straight body with one decent dent. I want to smooth the targa top remove the sail panel vinyl, fill in the antenna and side marker holes and have the car painted outside only by season start. So we may have 3 shiny 914's debuting this year.

Posted by: r_towle Jan 18 2006, 11:29 PM

ok, if I was standing there...I would cough and say cough cough bs cough cough...

Posted by: Dan (Almaden Valley) Jan 18 2006, 11:41 PM

Very nice. I am beginning to think that I won't have my car ready until the TT#2 or at least the first CDS event at BW.

Cursed body/paint guy is stringing me along. Was supposed to be painted this past weekend. I think that it didn't happen.
Oh well, just have to keep thinking about how nice it will be to be all shiney and smooth when I finally get it back. dry.gif smile.gif

One week sounds pretty quick to me too....Unless you are going to be there like 15+ hours per day to help out. Body work, welding holes, flaring fenders, strip paint and prime and paint.....more power to you to get it done Trekkor.

Posted by: ChrisNPDrider Jan 19 2006, 12:24 AM

beerchug.gif
Don't forget about the front spoiler....if the back one has stripes the front should too.
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Posted by: trekkor Jan 19 2006, 12:25 AM

I'm an animal ohmy.gif


QUOTE
How about some progress pics - before, during and after.


Every night wink.gif

QUOTE
vinyl stripes

I thought about that, too. idea.gif
Paint just seems so right...


I will be there all week hitting it hard. If it goes over a week,( next friday ) so be it.

I'm goin' for it though. rocking nana.gif


KT

Posted by: trekkor Jan 19 2006, 07:24 PM

Off to a great start today.

All the parts are off and boxed up.

Started sanding.


KT


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Posted by: sixnotfour Jan 19 2006, 07:30 PM

Nice Helper blink.gif

Posted by: trekkor Jan 19 2006, 07:31 PM

Another...


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Posted by: Aaron Cox Jan 19 2006, 07:31 PM

whya re you back already? day isnt over yet....

Posted by: trekkor Jan 20 2006, 10:55 AM

I'll be back there by 10:00 this morning.
I hope to fill the holes and S-T-R-E-T-C-H the rear fenders and fit the 225's.

Then more sanding...whoopee boldblue.gif

dry.gif


I'm filling the air inlet grille under the windshield, too.

Pics tonight.


KT

Posted by: Lou W Jan 20 2006, 11:53 AM

popcorn[1].gif

Posted by: watsonrx13 Jan 20 2006, 12:27 PM

QUOTE (trekkor @ Jan 20 2006, 11:55 AM)
I'll be back there by 10:00 this morning.
I hope to fill the holes and S-T-R-E-T-C-H the rear fenders and fit the 225's.

Then more sanding...whoopee boldblue.gif

dry.gif


I'm filling the air inlet grille under the windshield, too.

Pics tonight.


KT

KT, can you also list the tools/materials you're using along the way?

It will help others that plan to paint their cars.... wink.gif

-- Rob

Posted by: JOHNMAN Jan 20 2006, 12:44 PM

Show pics of the flared car sitting next to yours.

Good luck with the 1 week thing. Hell, I hope you can do it. (you probably won't have any time to do anything else)

Posted by: trekkor Jan 20 2006, 10:06 PM

QUOTE
Show pics of the flared car sitting next to yours.


Which one? There's two. rolleyes.gif

I met my goals today.
I finished all the metal work, stretched the fenders and the 225's are on mueba.gif


KT

Posted by: Dan (Almaden Valley) Jan 20 2006, 10:09 PM

So how did you do the flares? Pie cut with more metal added in, along the top edge?

Let's see some photographs of your progress wink.gif

Posted by: Aaron Cox Jan 20 2006, 10:14 PM

QUOTE (Dan (Almaden Valley) @ Jan 20 2006, 09:09 PM)
So how did you do the flares? Pie cut with more metal added in, along the top edge?

Let's see some photographs of your progress wink.gif

yeah! where are the flaring pics?

Posted by: trekkor Jan 20 2006, 10:16 PM

Here's how I stretched the fenders to the limit.

Port-a-Power!

I cut a 2x4 with the same profile of the inside of the fender and used hydrolic power to bring the fender lip to 11.25" from the inner fender well.

Check this out. unsure.gif


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Posted by: Aaron Cox Jan 20 2006, 10:18 PM

how much did the inner fender deflect?

neat idea.

Posted by: Lou W Jan 20 2006, 10:21 PM

Do you heat the fenders as you stretch them?

Posted by: trekkor Jan 20 2006, 10:22 PM

I put a 4x8 along the length of the inner. It didn't seem to deflect at all.

Also hammer and dollied the fender lip flat.





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Posted by: Dan (Almaden Valley) Jan 20 2006, 10:24 PM

robot.gif robot.gif new_shocked.gif
Interesting use of hydraulics...jaws of life laugh.gif

Did you get any unwanted ripples in the quarter panel after the streeeeetch?

Posted by: trekkor Jan 20 2006, 10:29 PM

I was very happy with the results. One of the fasteners that connects to the rocker panel made a pop noise! ohmy.gif

It shouldn't need to much hammer work at all. The profile looks pretty natural to me.

No heat used.

KT


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Posted by: Dan (Almaden Valley) Jan 20 2006, 10:31 PM

Looks good from that last pic. Profile looks about what I had on my 914-6 that I could run 225s on 7s with no problems at all. biggrin.gif

Posted by: Lou W Jan 20 2006, 10:31 PM

It looks like alot of tire under there. ph34r.gif

Posted by: Randal Jan 20 2006, 10:34 PM

Bet you didn't need much sanding on your new roof!

Nice work Trekkor -

Brandon and Mark are just great; always do what they say.

Posted by: trekkor Jan 20 2006, 10:36 PM

Now, on to the metal work! welder.gif

I filled the channels between the front fenders and the flat section below the winshield.

Heres the channel and antenna hole prepped.


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Posted by: trekkor Jan 20 2006, 10:45 PM

Grille below windshield hammered lower and prepped. ohmy.gif


Yes, Randal, that roof will really add a nice touch to the car. Thanks again!


KT


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Posted by: Aaron Cox Jan 20 2006, 10:51 PM

real men put 225's on 8's

Posted by: trekkor Jan 20 2006, 10:52 PM

Side markers are prepped


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Posted by: trekkor Jan 20 2006, 10:57 PM

Driver side channel welded up welder.gif


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Posted by: Aaron Cox Jan 20 2006, 10:58 PM

QUOTE (trekkor @ Jan 20 2006, 09:57 PM)
Driver side channel welded up welder.gif

ohmy.gif doesnt that crack if you weld that?

only time will tell.


looking good

Posted by: trekkor Jan 20 2006, 11:01 PM

*If* it cracks ( I already got this one covered ) I'll have vinyl pieces made to look like the plastic seals and cover them lol2.gif


Here's the grille welded...ready for body filler. smash.gif


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Posted by: Lou W Jan 20 2006, 11:02 PM

QUOTE
Aaron Cox Posted on Jan 20 2006, 09:58 PM
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QUOTE (trekkor @ Jan 20 2006, 09:57 PM)
Driver side channel welded up  

doesnt that crack if you weld that?

only time will tell.


looking good  

Dan (xitspd) had his welded up, and says he's never had any problems.

Posted by: Dan (Almaden Valley) Jan 20 2006, 11:04 PM

Looking very nice! Keep up the hard work.

Posted by: trekkor Jan 20 2006, 11:07 PM

Side markers are also done and I took my welder back home tonight. I finished it all today rolleyes.gif


Also, the filled channels have 1/8" steel rod stock hammered into the slot just below the surface. I welded each side of the gap to the rod. smash.gif

Monday will be a Bondo fest.

KT


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Posted by: trekkor Jan 20 2006, 11:11 PM

Gratuitous jackstand shot cool_shades.gif


I'm having a blast doing all this prep work myself.
Brandon is busy working on his projects, so I'm glad not to bother him.


KT


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Posted by: Dan (Almaden Valley) Jan 20 2006, 11:15 PM

Is that a smooth silver targa top in the last pic?

Another score from Randal's sawzall-smiley.gif approach to car preparation (read lite weight) wink.gif

I am glad Randal is doing such a total rebuild of his entire car along with the motor and I am sure that you (Trekkor) are too. smile.gif

Posted by: Travis Neff Jan 20 2006, 11:19 PM

welder.gif Looking good as usual Trekkor!

Posted by: trekkor Jan 20 2006, 11:33 PM

thanks!


Next week will be:

Monday- bondo and sanding
Tues- bondo and sanding
Wed and Thurs-sanding
Friday- painting

Hoping for the best.


KT

Posted by: Dan (Almaden Valley) Jan 21 2006, 12:40 AM

Trekkor,
Are you stripping it all the way down to bare metal, or just rough areas?
The body looks pretty straight as it is. smile.gif

Posted by: grantsfo Jan 21 2006, 12:45 AM

QUOTE (trekkor @ Jan 20 2006, 08:16 PM)
Here's how I stretched the fenders to the limit.

Port-a-Power!

I cut a 2x4 with the same profile of the inside of the fender and used hydrolic power to bring the fender lip to 11.25" from the inner fender well.

Check this out. unsure.gif

Ha ha! I did mine the same way but with a scissor jack. biggrin.gif Looking good!

Posted by: trekkor Jan 21 2006, 12:48 AM

There are some areas on the trunks and doors that have bubbles.

Those places will get the most aggressive prep work.
The rest will be a goof scuff before the epoxy primer/sealer goes on.

Also, any areas where I find cracking old bondo get the bare metal treatment.

Power sanders and 36/40 grit are my friend.


KT

Posted by: thesey914 Jan 21 2006, 06:40 AM

Have we got a visual on what these stripes will look like?

Posted by: J P Stein Jan 21 2006, 11:03 AM

Hay, since you're into the "customcarcraze" don't forget here: laugh.gif


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Posted by: redshift Jan 21 2006, 11:33 AM

QUOTE (trekkor @ Jan 19 2006, 09:24 PM)
Off to a great start today.

All the parts are off and boxed up.

Started sanding.


KT

LMAO KT LMAO!!!!!!



Posted by: trekkor Jan 21 2006, 02:46 PM

What's so funny? confused24.gif

Here's a quick mock up.


KT


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Posted by: Randal Jan 21 2006, 03:05 PM

QUOTE
Here's a quick mock up.


Wider Trek!

Posted by: Randal Jan 21 2006, 03:12 PM

I have always like the original Shelby stripes, but how about this version?




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Posted by: J P Stein Jan 21 2006, 03:21 PM

Damn....Randal has sponsers. I gots no sponsers.
Need to get me suma those. I'm tired of buying/building my own shi....stuff. biggrin.gif

Posted by: trekkor Jan 21 2006, 03:29 PM

Randal, can you put up the pic like in your avatar only regular sized?

I think the position and width of you air vents are what I'm after smile.gif


JP, I'm gonna keep my engine lid "as-is" except for the stripes.

KT

Posted by: rhodyguy Jan 21 2006, 03:33 PM

i just got back from getting an estimate on a paint job. squeeky clean shop. much less $ than i've ever had locally. there were some examples of the guys work. i'm giving it some serious thought.

k

Posted by: trekkor Jan 21 2006, 03:43 PM

QUOTE
i'm giving it some serious thought.


Good! New paint will make you enjoy your car even more.
How much was the estimate??

KT

Posted by: Eric Taylor Jan 21 2006, 03:58 PM

That mock up is hot cool.gif . Gona look great. Has your car now gone to full track status?
Eric

Posted by: redshift Jan 21 2006, 03:59 PM

QUOTE (trekkor @ Jan 21 2006, 04:46 PM)
What's so funny? confused24.gif

Here's a quick mock up.


KT

Fat Asian Kid face doo..


M

Posted by: redshift Jan 21 2006, 04:00 PM

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Posted by: trekkor Jan 21 2006, 04:05 PM

Oh, that... cool.gif


Not quite full track car, yet.

I drive around on the back roads and here and there in town.

If ( when wink.gif ) race seats and full cage are in, I may draw the line.


Posted by: djm914-6 Jan 21 2006, 04:10 PM

How about a wider center stripe with a thin outline...



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Posted by: trekkor Jan 21 2006, 04:17 PM

I like that a lot and so does my wife. idea.gif

The pinstripe border is something I've always liked.

Nice touch up on the mock-up, BTW

Keep it coming boldblue.gif


KT

Posted by: Randal Jan 21 2006, 04:20 PM

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Randal, can you put up the pic like in your avatar only regular sized?





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Posted by: trekkor Jan 21 2006, 04:30 PM

Yes, good.
I'm torn.

One really wide one or two? idea.gif

Posted by: rhodyguy Jan 21 2006, 04:31 PM

$3050 out the door, all inclusive. i take it apart. antenna and lower sail panel trim delete, color match a smooth top that i have. L96D(silver metalic) 2-stage. i thought about a road trip via los poncho's, fly home-fly down, drive back. roughly the same ammount after everything is totaled up and no worries about a long drive home with the new paint. i've never had a qoute under $5500 local, and that's with me taking it apart. it's nice when you can look at the painters work first hand. i don't care about a photo album full of pictures. he'll assure me of a completion date.

k

Posted by: J P Stein Jan 21 2006, 04:37 PM

I wasn't refering to the engine lid, Trekkor. The chrome on the targa bar was whut I was after.....tho the lid is gud too biggrin.gif

Posted by: J P Stein Jan 21 2006, 04:42 PM

This sucker


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Posted by: trekkor Jan 21 2006, 04:46 PM

Ah, yeas...Maybe next winter ( DWD ) laugh.gif


All this talk has got me wanting to do some sanding...I'm out.

KT

Posted by: spare time toys Jan 21 2006, 04:54 PM

QUOTE (djm914-6 @ Jan 21 2006, 05:10 PM)
How about a wider center stripe with a thin outline...

I like the one wide stripe with the pin stripe idea. I dont have a good front view but this gives you the idea beerchug.gif


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Posted by: trekkor Jan 21 2006, 09:03 PM

I'm back.

I found a little bb sized rust bubble right in front of the passenger side door on the fender.

I picked at it and opened it up and now it's the size of a silver dollar ohmy.gif


KT

( thanks for the wide stripe shot, BTW. )


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Posted by: trekkor Jan 21 2006, 09:07 PM

Welded it up welder.gif
I also welded the wiper spray nozzle holes shut, too.


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Posted by: grasshopper Jan 21 2006, 09:09 PM

pinch.gif sawzall-smiley.gif welder.gif beer3.gif looking good clap.gif

Posted by: neo914-6 Jan 21 2006, 09:20 PM

QUOTE (trekkor @ Jan 20 2006, 09:01 PM)
*If* it cracks ( I already got this one covered ) I'll have vinyl pieces made to look like the plastic seals and cover them lol2.gif


Here's the grille welded...ready for body filler. smash.gif

Trek,

Did you pound down the vent and weld a piece of sheetmetal on top or cut it out first? Looking good! biggrin.gif

Posted by: Travis Neff Jan 21 2006, 09:25 PM

Don't stop there, fill the rear trunk lock and use an engman cable release!

Posted by: trekkor Jan 21 2006, 09:30 PM

I welded the sheetmetal over the grill after I depressed it slightly. smash.gif

After making a paper template for fitment, I made the patch out of 18gauge.

I spent a good amount of time using the air powered jitterbug sanding board with 36 grit to get most of this side rough prepped. w00t1.gif


KT




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Posted by: Gint Jan 21 2006, 10:52 PM

QUOTE (trekkor @ Jan 21 2006, 08:30 PM)
I welded the sheetmetal over the grill after I depressed it slightly. smash.gif

After making a paper template for fitment, I made the patch out of 18gauge.

I spent a good amount of time using the air powered jitterbug sanding board with 36 grit to get most of this side rough prepped. w00t1.gif


KT

That's extra weight that you could have eliminated you know. rolleyes.gif

Keep those pics comin.

Posted by: trekkor Jan 22 2006, 12:04 AM

I haven't gone for any car weight loss yet. Not until I get under 180#'s myself will I touch the car. biggrin.gif

Here's a shot I swiped from Andy's SIX thread.


KT


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Posted by: Dan (Almaden Valley) Jan 22 2006, 12:15 AM

Trekkor,
looks like you are making good headway.

That last stripe looked great. Makes me start to think about some vinyl..... rolleyes.gif


Posted by: trekkor Jan 22 2006, 12:32 AM

I took this pic last year at the rained out GGR-TT at Sears.

It has pearl white and metalic stripes.
I think my whole scheme is a subliminal flashback to this car ph34r.gif




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Posted by: Dan (Almaden Valley) Jan 22 2006, 12:37 AM

That car used to belong to Chuck Davis. It had a 2.7RS motor in it then. That is the motor that is now in Larry Sharp's '74 Carrera.
It has been around our series for many years in several itterations.
I forget who the new owner is, but he still attends most of our TTs. Chuck now has a older 911 chassis with FG 993 body work and a larger twin plug motor...possibly a 3.6L.

Nice car none the less.

Posted by: Mark Henry Jan 22 2006, 10:55 AM

hijacked.gif

Show me a pic of that bug!

Is it an oval or a split?

Posted by: Dan (Almaden Valley) Jan 22 2006, 05:07 PM

Must be an oval, judging by the front turn signals. IIRC, splits had semiphores.

Also check sirandys thread on his 3.6 conversion, there is a pic of the rear. wink.gif

Posted by: Lou W Jan 22 2006, 06:11 PM

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trekkor Posted on Jan 21 2006, 11:32 PM
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I took this pic last year at the rained out GGR-TT at Sears.

It has pearl white and metalic stripes.
I think my whole scheme is a subliminal flashback to this car  

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Posted by: Dan (Almaden Valley) Jan 22 2006, 08:49 PM

Any progress today Trekkor? smile.gif

Posted by: trekkor Jan 22 2006, 10:04 PM

You caught me, I couldn't leave it alone! smile.gif

I started the body filler on the antenna hole, washer nozzles and inlet grill.

Put in another 3 hours.

KT

Pics tomorrow night

Posted by: McMark Jan 23 2006, 12:16 AM

Bug Pics: http://www.paintandmetal.com/invoice/images.php?p=9

NOT DIAL-UP FRIENDLY

And now back to our regularly scheduled paint job. wink.gif

Posted by: trekkor Jan 23 2006, 12:38 AM

Good! Thanks clap56.gif


KT

Posted by: trekkor Jan 23 2006, 04:52 PM

progess-


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Posted by: trekkor Jan 23 2006, 04:54 PM

studs tacked on, passenger-


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Posted by: trekkor Jan 23 2006, 04:55 PM

studs, driver's-


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Posted by: trekkor Jan 23 2006, 04:58 PM

There was this dragster across the street that got my attention.

Red stripes


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Posted by: Travis Neff Jan 23 2006, 05:20 PM

Fenders cave in when you filled the side markers? If so, I had the same thing happen to mine.

Posted by: trekkor Jan 23 2006, 09:42 PM

No cave in. I found some old bondo . Wanted to bump it out a little better before the new filler.

I was there from 8:30am to 7:00pm today with an hour for lunch chowtime.gif

The driver side door was pretty bad. I sanded it to bare metal over 75% of the surface. The old paint was loose and I kept finding surface rust that was covered over last time. mad.gif

This is the door that blue painter's tape used as temp a/x numbers would pull the paint off at the end of the day.

Tomorrow all the body work should be completed and ready for primer on wednesday. mueba.gif


KT


Posted by: trekkor Jan 24 2006, 07:55 PM

The entire car is now rough sanded and filler is on all panels except the rear trunk and driver side rear qtr.

Tomorrow we sand out the car to 80 grit and prime and guide coat in the afternoon/early evening.

Cure all day thursday ( I'm taking a break )

Friday morning block sand and color/clear coats in the afternoon.
Three coats of each color and as many coats of clear that a gallon will spray idea.gif

KT

No pics tonight...

Posted by: Dan (Almaden Valley) Jan 24 2006, 08:09 PM

Slacker! laugh.gif wink.gif

Your going to be done before I get mine back....still waiting. sad.gif mad.gif

Posted by: trekkor Jan 24 2006, 08:16 PM

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Slacker!


That's "Mr. Slacker", to you! lol2.gif


I'm tired...

Posted by: 914-8 Jan 24 2006, 09:05 PM

QUOTE (trekkor @ Jan 24 2006, 05:55 PM)

Three coats of each color and as many coats of clear that a gallon will spray idea.gif


A gallon of clear?!?

Isn't that going to equate to like 20-30 coats?

Posted by: trekkor Jan 25 2006, 12:14 AM

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A gallon of clear


I'll check with Brandon. He said about a quart per coat.


KT

Posted by: tdgray Jan 25 2006, 07:39 AM

QUOTE (914-8 @ Jan 24 2006, 11:05 PM)
QUOTE (trekkor @ Jan 24 2006, 05:55 PM)

Three coats of each color and as many coats of clear that a gallon will spray idea.gif


A gallon of clear?!?

Isn't that going to equate to like 20-30 coats?

NAW... Just did this.

Got four good coats on the whole car out of a gallon.

Just a smidge left over for some touch up later. (F'in orange peal)

Posted by: grantsfo Jan 25 2006, 04:47 PM

Updates?

Posted by: Eric Taylor Jan 25 2006, 05:02 PM

wheres da pic's man! ohmy.gif
Eric

Posted by: trekkor Jan 25 2006, 08:01 PM

I'm busy, leave me alone! Jumpy.gif

Here's the color/stripe/permanant number theme:


Trying to get it in primer...


KT


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Posted by: trekkor Jan 26 2006, 12:59 AM

Whew! ohmy.gif

Here we go!

Brandon, sanding the hood.


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Posted by: trekkor Jan 26 2006, 01:05 AM

Raymundo laying on the Metal Glazeā„¢


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Posted by: trekkor Jan 26 2006, 01:09 AM

shaping


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Posted by: trekkor Jan 26 2006, 01:11 AM

close up of fender seam filled


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Posted by: trekkor Jan 26 2006, 01:13 AM

Masked cool.gif


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Posted by: trekkor Jan 26 2006, 01:16 AM

masked ph34r.gif Didn't think I'd make it did you?


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Posted by: trekkor Jan 26 2006, 01:17 AM

PRIMER!!! smilie_pokal.gif


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Posted by: trekkor Jan 26 2006, 01:19 AM

wavey.gif

yes


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Posted by: Aaron Cox Jan 26 2006, 01:20 AM

bad ass smiley_notworthy.gif

Posted by: trekkor Jan 26 2006, 01:21 AM

clap56.gif


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Posted by: trekkor Jan 26 2006, 01:24 AM

all the holes filled and primed...I'm happy


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Posted by: trekkor Jan 26 2006, 01:38 AM

more...


We were out of the booth by 9:30 this evening.

What a day.

The car will now sit until the paint is sandable.
I think it may rain tomorrow so it may not be possible to apply the color and clear on Friday.
Car needs to sit out in the sun and bake.

That's OK, though.


KT


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Posted by: Dead Air Jan 26 2006, 07:35 AM

QUOTE (trekkor @ Jan 25 2006, 11:38 PM)
more...


We were out of the booth by 9:30 this evening.

What a day.

The car will now sit until the paint is sandable.
I think it may rain tomorrow so it may not be possible to apply the color and clear on Friday.
Car needs to sit out in the sun and bake.

That's OK, though.


KT

[QUOTE]

Those are obviously "hood pin" holes at the tail of the trunk?
I know dumb question. Oh, metal glaze over the Entire trunk lid? Is that normal procedure?

Posted by: tdgray Jan 26 2006, 07:44 AM

Dude paints without a mask... ohmy.gif

Does he have any brain cells left huh.gif

Posted by: seanery Jan 26 2006, 07:47 AM

trekkor has a rear spoilier, so I bet that's what the holes are for.

Posted by: trekkor Jan 26 2006, 12:17 PM

The metal glaze ends up being transparent in many areas after sanding.

Bondo is funny stuff in the way that it makes you think, "It must be thick". ohmy.gif

Brandon assured me that the primer would be thicker than most of the bondo.

Yep, rear spoiler mounts.

KT


Posted by: Root_Werks Jan 26 2006, 12:43 PM

QUOTE (tdgray @ Jan 26 2006, 05:44 AM)
Dude paints without a mask... ohmy.gif

Does he have any brain cells left huh.gif

wuts rong weth thatt?

Posted by: kwales Jan 26 2006, 01:09 PM

Drain zells???

We dont need no stinking crain bells.....

Must be something going on with painters......

Noticed a long time ago that painters:
1. Like pornography- stacks of magazines and calendars in every paint shop I been in... Not that there is anything wrong with that.

2. Usually a "little" wierd...... One guy at one plant wore black shorts, silver suspenders and a black bowler with a silver stripe, unsure.gif
his buddy usta spray the paint and sniff the fog to see if the mix was right.... blink.gif
And at another plant, watched a guy run around the paint shop like a monkey and almost deck someone.... : sad.gif

3. Don't use masks.... barf.gif

Ken

Posted by: Lou W Jan 26 2006, 01:21 PM

Sure is looking great, keep the pictures coming smilie_pokal.gif

Do you have any pictures of the roof? Did you "float" the roof to get it smooth? or did you sand it down?

Posted by: pete-stevers Jan 26 2006, 01:32 PM

trekkor i can't wait to see the colour....

Posted by: SirAndy Jan 26 2006, 02:04 PM

QUOTE (trekkor @ Jan 25 2006, 11:16 PM)
Didn't think I'd make it did you?

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Posted by: sixnotfour Jan 26 2006, 03:44 PM

single wiper would be cool cool.gif
looks good smilie_pokal.gif

Posted by: Dead Air Jan 26 2006, 05:16 PM

QUOTE (kwales @ Jan 26 2006, 11:09 AM)
Drain zells???

We dont need no stinking crain bells.....




LMAO biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

Posted by: 9146R Jan 26 2006, 06:20 PM

Trekkor,

Great eye candy paging thru the thread - whatta job. You are gonna be so much faster with the "new look". Can't wait to see #746 when it is all done.
I think I see an Excellence article in 2006.... aktion035.gif

Greg

Posted by: trekkor Jan 26 2006, 07:51 PM

roof shot-

I bought Randal's old smooth painted top, block sanded it out with 180 grit. Metal glazed a couple of low spots and chips.

KT




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Posted by: trekkor Jan 26 2006, 07:59 PM

The weather was perfect for baking my car in the sun...All day.





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Posted by: Dan (Almaden Valley) Jan 26 2006, 09:59 PM

Yep, you are definitely going to be done before I get mine back! sad.gif

Mine is in primer as we speak and is "supposed" to be painted by this weekend. I think I have heard this song before huh.gif sad.gif

It is going to look great when done Trekkor, and your design for the stripes and #s looks very cool. cool.gif

If you are going to do a double stripe, how about one in Red metallic and one in blue metallic. With a round white number background. Give you a modern interpretation of the Brumos cars from the late '60s. wink.gif

I am still trying to decide what I am going to do with my numbers. Numbers only, probably white or bright yellow. Or round white background with bright orange numbers.

Posted by: sj914 Jan 26 2006, 10:05 PM

Whats the difference between using metal glaze and bondo? confused24.gif

Posted by: bmunday Jan 26 2006, 10:07 PM

Beauty!!! Keep up the great work!!!

Posted by: Eric_Shea Jan 26 2006, 10:14 PM

Are you going to paint the PVC brake cooler thingy's to match? huh.gif

Looking good Trek smilie_pokal.gif

Posted by: trekkor Jan 26 2006, 10:14 PM

The bondo is good for thicker applications and first coats.
The metal glaze is very smooth and viscous. Consistancy of pudding chowtime.gif

You can spread the metal glaze so thin you can see through it and no pin holes.

Great for topping, like on my trunks. I sanded through to bare metal all over both of them due to little rust bubbles.

The metal glaze is applied just a little thicker than the paint on the car before sanding. Expensive, though. Around $20 a pint. ohmy.gif


KT

Posted by: trekkor Jan 26 2006, 10:21 PM

We used about a gallon of bondo on this car ohmy.gif

But, about 80% of that got sanded off.

Here's the rundown on coats:

4 coats primer yesterday

tomorrow:
after block sanding and spot putty, wet sand with 400 grit.
4 coats color
4 coats clear

Another long day



KT

Posted by: trekkor Jan 26 2006, 10:24 PM

I also scuffed the wheels with Scotchbrite pads.

they will also be the same metallic red as the stripes and #'s.


KT


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Posted by: Dan (Almaden Valley) Jan 28 2006, 12:24 AM

So????? wink.gif

Today.....you did huh.gif

Posted by: thesey914 Jan 28 2006, 02:07 AM

Trek, you did a SIX and forgot the 5 stud wheels..... rolleyes.gif

Posted by: trekkor Jan 28 2006, 05:24 AM

That was was a crazy long day wacko.gif

I just got home.

Let's do some picss, shall we?

guide coat over primer- ready for 400 grit wet sanding


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Posted by: trekkor Jan 28 2006, 05:31 AM

wet sanded and washed, ready to be dried.



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Posted by: trekkor Jan 28 2006, 05:36 AM

Back in the booth masked, wiped over with the degreaser/cleaner and a tack rag

Next we go to color


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Posted by: trekkor Jan 28 2006, 05:40 AM

it starts smilie_pokal.gif


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Posted by: trekkor Jan 28 2006, 05:45 AM

getting the stripes and number mask set up.

McMark cut the lo-tack masking vinyl for me, thanks for that.




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Posted by: URY914 Jan 28 2006, 05:47 AM

He's got a make on now.

Great work. I'm priming mine today, outside.... ohmy.gif

Paul

Posted by: trekkor Jan 28 2006, 05:48 AM

bloodbath ohmy.gif


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Posted by: trekkor Jan 28 2006, 05:54 AM

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Posted by: trekkor Jan 28 2006, 05:58 AM

track car-


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Posted by: trekkor Jan 28 2006, 06:02 AM

the wheels to match.

I going to sleep now... yellowsleep[1].gif


KT


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Posted by: URY914 Jan 28 2006, 06:14 AM

Looks faster already.... smilie_pokal.gif

P

Posted by: Tom Perso Jan 28 2006, 06:46 AM

smilie_pokal.gif Rock on!!!

Tom

Posted by: bmunday Jan 28 2006, 07:54 AM

That looks F-G BITCHIN!!!
I have tought about the stripes down the center, but since I don't have a motor that would beat my son on his bike going down hill,I have gone away from doing it. That is really beautiful!!Keep up the great work, more pics!!! smilie_pokal.gif smilie_pokal.gif smilie_pokal.gif smilie_pokal.gif smilie_pokal.gif smilie_pokal.gif smilie_pokal.gif

Posted by: Travis Neff Jan 28 2006, 09:11 AM

That look FuchFreakingTastic! cool_shades.gif

Posted by: Stutgart46 Jan 28 2006, 09:14 AM

It's looking great Trekkor.
Please keep posting pics.

Posted by: Dan (Almaden Valley) Jan 28 2006, 10:47 AM

yep, you beat me! sad.gif

Those metallic stripes are going to look unbelievable in the sun, especially with the white back ground.
Nice job....
Mark did a nice job on the graphics smilie_pokal.gif

Posted by: J P Stein Jan 28 2006, 10:53 AM

That does look good, Trekkor, and having a pro do it (with your assist) is a gud plan. clap56.gif

Posted by: grasshopper Jan 28 2006, 10:55 AM

you know if you had painted it yellow, you would have gained 10hp more wink.gif LOOKS GREAT! smilie_pokal.gif

Posted by: rhodyguy Jan 28 2006, 10:58 AM

wow, wow, wow!!! beautiful, unique, and nearly finished. cool.gif you make the rest of us slackers look like...slackers.

k

Posted by: Racing916 Jan 28 2006, 11:01 AM

Dude that looks sweet!! I want stripes!! Nice job smilie_pokal.gif smilie_pokal.gif smilie_pokal.gif
The colors work perfect together

Posted by: jim912928 Jan 28 2006, 11:02 AM

purrrrrrdy!

Posted by: trekkor Jan 28 2006, 11:17 AM

Thanks boldblue.gif

Here's one more for now...

We had one small problem last night.
The rear spoiler had some sort of contaminant and caused a bit of peeling where the paint wouldn't stick, so it will get re-done later.

Oh well. confused24.gif


KT


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Posted by: sixnotfour Jan 28 2006, 11:24 AM

smilie_pokal.gif Stripe/numbers aktion035.gif

Posted by: DonTraver Jan 28 2006, 11:26 AM

Very Nice

Later, Don

Posted by: Lou W Jan 28 2006, 11:36 AM

smilie_pokal.gif Very cool, keep the pictures coming. smilie_pokal.gif

Posted by: tat2dphreak Jan 28 2006, 01:03 PM

looking great man!!! I dig that!

Posted by: trekkor Jan 28 2006, 01:06 PM

I'm resting/napping/watching the Rolex right now, but I plan on reassembling the car today and driving it home.


KT

Posted by: seanery Jan 28 2006, 01:12 PM

hey man, why didn't you paint the sail panels?
The back of the car looks great with the stripes!

Posted by: trekkor Jan 28 2006, 01:18 PM

QUOTE
why didn't you paint the sail panels?


2 reasons, neither are very good unsure.gif

1. I have white vinyl.
2. I was too lazy to remove all the trims to prep them. ( oil tank is in the way of the fastener )


KT

Posted by: 914MF Jan 28 2006, 01:19 PM

smilie_pokal.gif smilie_pokal.gif pray.gif pray.gif aktion035.gif aktion035.gif boldblue.gif boldblue.gif mueba.gif mueba.gif wub.gif wub.gif rocking nana.gif drooley.gif drooley.gif drooley.gif

Posted by: J P Stein Jan 28 2006, 01:34 PM

QUOTE (trekkor @ Jan 28 2006, 11:18 AM)

2. I was too lazy to remove all the trims to prep them. ( oil tank is in the way of the fastener )


KT

FYI:

This can be over come with brute strength & ignorance....and a willingness to kiss off the chrome strips....no help now, eh?

Posted by: trekkor Jan 28 2006, 01:41 PM

Maybe next winter we will see "My paint thread-pt2" rolleyes.gif


KT

Posted by: johnmhudson111 Jan 28 2006, 02:25 PM

QUOTE (trekkor @ Jan 28 2006, 02:06 PM)
I'm resting/napping/watching the Rolex right now, but I plan on reassembling the car today and driving it home.


KT

Damn that is one good lookin' car!!! thumb3d.gif

Might just have the break out some rattle cans and get me some stripe and numbers teef.gif

Posted by: SirAndy Jan 28 2006, 10:32 PM

oh, i saw it today!!! you guys will be blown away ... piratenanner.gif

paint is done, and man does this thing look SCHWEET !!! smilie_pokal.gif

driving.gif Andy

Posted by: alpha434 Jan 28 2006, 10:37 PM

We already know it's stunningly gorgeous. I love The color pattern. So simple and yet very professional. I like it. It's got that "I don't need to be orange to kick a$$" look to it.

Posted by: trekkor Jan 28 2006, 11:32 PM

Can you say, "Happy"?


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Posted by: SirAndy Jan 28 2006, 11:35 PM

QUOTE (trekkor @ Jan 28 2006, 09:32 PM)
Can you say, "Happy"?

glad i could help! biggrin.gif (with the blinker anyways ...)


the car looks great trek! i really like the schtripes.
smilie_pokal.gif Andy

Posted by: trekkor Jan 28 2006, 11:35 PM

"I'm happy"!!! boldblue.gif

KT


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Posted by: Dan (Almaden Valley) Jan 28 2006, 11:36 PM

My someone was busy today! biggrin.gif

Very nice....racey looking too. wink.gif


Posted by: Rand Jan 28 2006, 11:38 PM

Nice work Trekkor. Looks great! smilie_pokal.gif

Posted by: trekkor Jan 28 2006, 11:43 PM

I'm kinda tired, as I've only had two hours sleep since yesterday morning ohmy.gif

It was worth it though. popcorn[1].gif

Glad you all like it, thanks for the words!


KT





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Posted by: nine14cats Jan 29 2006, 12:04 AM

Hey Trekkor,

Awesome! smilie_pokal.gif

Dan, somehow we've fallen far behind Mr. T in the 914 re-assembly line...... laugh.gif

I wonder if I can get The Beast running by 2007?... smash.gif

Congratulations Trekkor....the car looks great.

Will you be at the first GGR time trial? I will, but Doris' MBA program will most likely keep her out of action at Sears.

Bill P.

Posted by: trekkor Jan 29 2006, 12:25 AM

thanks, Bill.

I will miss the fisrt GGR-TT.
I actually have to miss the ground school on the 11th as well mad.gif

I plan on running in March.


KT

Posted by: Dan (Almaden Valley) Jan 29 2006, 12:29 AM

you're right Bill sad.gif I guess next time I should do my own body and paint work ohmy.gif

I will be at Sears to instruct but don't think there is any way I will have the car ready. Shooting for TT #2 and CDS #1.

Trekkor has shown us his tailpipe this time. We will see on the track wink.gif

Posted by: Gint Jan 29 2006, 01:21 AM

That really looks nice Trekkor. cool.gif We need shiny paint smiley. shocked[1].gif shades.gif

Posted by: grantsfo Jan 29 2006, 01:52 AM

Nice classic look

Posted by: tat2dphreak Jan 29 2006, 10:01 AM

smilie_pokal.gif that's one sweet racing paint job! smiley_notworthy.gif what color Red is that? looks almost like a candy-apple color

Posted by: Series9 Jan 29 2006, 10:56 AM

I can not believe how quickly you got that finished.

It looks great.

Posted by: trekkor Jan 29 2006, 12:41 PM

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what color Red is that?


It's the factory metalic red used on Ford's from 2001.
The white is our "Light Ivory" L08 ( IIRC ) factory color.

I tried several metalic reds. The problem was finding a colr that was available in PPG's Omni system ( base and clear )
QUOTE
Nice classic look

Yes, when I look at my car now, I can imagine it on a track back in the 70's idea.gif


KT

Posted by: Headrage Jan 29 2006, 12:46 PM

That is awesome dude.....


Came out looking really good. Can't wait to see it from all angles with the wheels on it.

Wat to go!!!

Posted by: Randal Jan 29 2006, 12:56 PM

Nice work Trekkor; that is a paint job that'll make you happy every time you look at it for years.

How many man hours do you figure in the entire job start to finish?

How long do you have to wait until you can rub it out?




Posted by: Engman Jan 29 2006, 12:58 PM

That is sooooooo swweeeetttt!
smilie_pokal.gif

Love the stripes!!!!


Cant wait to see it with your wheels....


Gotta ask - 746 - how or why that number?

Nice job!

M

Posted by: trekkor Jan 29 2006, 01:08 PM

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Gotta ask - 746 - how or why that number?


Easy, 1974-6 = 746

QUOTE
How many man hours


Ooooh, huh.gif


Just a minute on that ( taking shoes off )


KT

Posted by: trekkor Jan 29 2006, 01:14 PM

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How many man hours


I'm going to estimate 120.

80 of mine
10 of Raymundo
30 of Brandon.

Could be a tad higher. confused24.gif


I want to rub it all out with 1500 wet next weekend.


KT

Posted by: North Bay 914 Jan 29 2006, 01:41 PM

QUOTE (trekkor @ Jan 29 2006, 11:14 AM)
I want to rub it all out with 1500 wet next weekend.


KT

Wow, Thats great Trek. Really Great!

Posted by: trekkor Jan 29 2006, 01:46 PM

Thank's Martin. When are you starting yours?

Maybe you already have...


KT

Posted by: trekkor Jan 29 2006, 11:58 PM

Maybe we'll get a nice day here in the valley so I can post some daytime shots tomorrow.


KT

Posted by: Lou W Jan 30 2006, 12:04 AM

Your car turned out fantastic, you did a very nice job smilie_pokal.gif

Posted by: trekkor Jan 31 2006, 05:05 PM

Show's over with these last few pics.




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Posted by: trekkor Jan 31 2006, 05:08 PM

can you tell where the pics were taken?


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Posted by: trekkor Jan 31 2006, 05:09 PM

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Posted by: trekkor Jan 31 2006, 05:11 PM

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Posted by: Dan (Almaden Valley) Jan 31 2006, 05:11 PM

Winner's circle at Sears....sorry I meant Infineon wink.gif
Looks great. Next to see it with the fenders filled with some nice sticky wide tires. biggrin.gif

Posted by: trekkor Jan 31 2006, 05:14 PM

Yep, home track.


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Posted by: trekkor Jan 31 2006, 05:16 PM

last

Thanks for looking! wink.gif


KT

Posted by: Dan (Almaden Valley) Jan 31 2006, 05:17 PM

Trekkor,
did you do a rear number? You will need a 5inch tall minimum rear number, or full size on rear deck. dry.gif

Posted by: trekkor Jan 31 2006, 05:26 PM

I'll put the number on my rear spoiler after it is installed.

Like this:


KT


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Posted by: Engman Jan 31 2006, 05:27 PM

Did'nt you paint some rims red as well?

I wanna see the pic of the car with the red rims..... wink.gif

I bet it pops biggrin.gif


M

Posted by: Cloudbuster Jan 31 2006, 05:28 PM

Quick! Change your avatar!

Posted by: pete-stevers Jan 31 2006, 05:35 PM

Trekkor....That looks EFFIN great!!! biggrin.gif

Posted by: Randal Jan 31 2006, 05:42 PM

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I'll put the number on my rear spoiler after it is installed.


If you like the European license look then how about this approach:




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Posted by: trekkor Jan 31 2006, 05:53 PM

I like the euro plate style quite a bit. rolleyes.gif


KT

Posted by: jgara962 Jan 31 2006, 06:25 PM

Trek,

I don't know how, but I have totally missed this thread over the last couple of weeks and am just seeing now for the first time.

smilie_pokal.gif smilie_pokal.gif smilie_pokal.gif

The new paint job looks great! Your car is going to look sweet flying around the track this season.

Posted by: 9146R Jan 31 2006, 06:38 PM

TREKKOR,

What a great job ! More 914 eye candy. Thanks for sharing and kudos to you and your helpers ! See you at SR airport autox or one of our local tracks before too long...we be the stripey guys. beerchug.gif

Greg

Posted by: Randal Jan 31 2006, 06:44 PM

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I like the euro plate style quite a bit.  


Mark has mine at the shop, which you could use as a template. Just take it to tap plastics and duplicate the plastic bit, then have Mark do the vinal plate (off white background, black border and 5" numbers).

Posted by: trekkor Apr 27 2006, 11:58 AM

Here's a pic from Alameda a/x last week where the origainal mock-up photo shop pic came from.

Thanks for looking.



KT


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