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Posted by: SirAndy Feb 1 2006, 12:58 PM

anyone got a picture of the pin-layout of a early vs. a late Headlight Switch ???

Andy

Posted by: SLITS Feb 1 2006, 01:53 PM

I prolly have both...will look, but I just count the pins.......


ein, zwei, drei, vier.......links, rechts, links...oy, vait ein minuten.

Posted by: Bleyseng Feb 1 2006, 02:06 PM

Mixing Dutch and German....now thats really bad.

Posted by: SLITS Feb 1 2006, 02:28 PM

Posted by: michel richard Feb 1 2006, 02:34 PM

okay, which is which

Posted by: SLITS Feb 1 2006, 02:37 PM

the one with 10 pins is early....the one with 11 pins is late.....or try babelfish translation

Posted by: lapuwali Feb 1 2006, 03:05 PM

And how many pins are actually REQUIRED? Just 4:

1 +12 in
2 +12 out to side, tail lights (1st position)
3 +12 out to main lights (really, hi/lo switch or relay) (2nd position)
4 +0-+12 out to dash lights (dimmer knob)

The difference is what's split inside the switch v. what's split outside the switch.

Posted by: Flat VW Feb 1 2006, 04:28 PM

I could use a '74 one (late, huh?).

I at times must jiggle the switch to make the lamps come on, just a matter of time.

Are they still offered new anywhere?



John

Posted by: richardmosselman Feb 1 2006, 04:31 PM

That's funny! I have to jiggle mine too (no dirty hijacks please!) So, I'm going to require an early one ('72)?

Posted by: SirAndy Feb 1 2006, 04:40 PM

QUOTE (SLITS @ Feb 1 2006, 12:28 PM)

Früh - Spät

ah craps, just what i thought ...

oh well ...


i got a really nice *early* switch. anyone wanna trade for a nice *late* switch ???

Andy

Posted by: lapuwali Feb 1 2006, 04:51 PM

If you (Andy or anyone) can cope with doing some rewiring, VW switches look nearly identical, have the same functions (two pull positions + twist dimmer), but have fewer terminals and are FAR cheaper. Like I said earlier, the only difference is in what splitting goes on in the switch v. in the harness, so you'd have to devise an adapter "harness" to connect the 914 harness to the VW switch, but it's doable. Same on early v. late 914 switches, really.

I think the only visible difference between the 914 and the VW switches besides the number of terminals is the rubber part of the knob is very slightly different. However, the 914 knob will fit on the VW switch, so even that difference can be nullified.

The price difference is pretty startling: $20-30 (www.cip1.com) v. $400+ (Pelican), so it's well worth the effort to rewire.

Posted by: SLITS Feb 1 2006, 05:00 PM

QUOTE (SirAndy @ Feb 1 2006, 03:40 PM)

QUOTE (SLITS @ Feb 1 2006, 12:28 PM) Früh - Spät ah craps, just what i thought ... oh well ... i got a really nice *early* switch. anyone wanna trade for a nice *late* switch ??? Andy

How 'bout you PM me an address and I send you a "late" switch...used, unknown, but..............

Posted by: SirAndy Feb 1 2006, 05:03 PM

QUOTE (SLITS @ Feb 1 2006, 03:00 PM)

How 'bout you PM me an address and I send you a "late" switch...used, unknown, but..............

well, that would be nice ...

Andy

Posted by: SLITS Feb 1 2006, 05:06 PM

QUOTE (SirAndy @ Feb 1 2006, 04:03 PM)

QUOTE (SLITS @ Feb 1 2006, 03:00 PM) How 'bout you PM me an address and I send you a "late" switch...used, unknown, but.............. well, that would be nice ... Andy

Slits is not nice, but Ron will do it......

Posted by: Dave_Darling Feb 1 2006, 05:59 PM

Brad Anders was able to open up his headlight switch and clean it up and repair it. Might be worth a look... http://members.rennlist.com/pbanders

--DD

Posted by: Aaron Cox Feb 1 2006, 06:44 PM

Ron, can you clean off the late switch so i can read the terminals???

muchas gracias....

it *gasp* may help me fix some gremlins....

Posted by: SLITS Feb 2 2006, 05:11 PM

QUOTE (Aaron Cox @ Feb 1 2006, 05:44 PM)

Ron, can you clean off the late switch so i can read the terminals??? muchas gracias.... it *gasp* may help me fix some gremlins....

Cleaned, labeled and parfumeed for the little Corona engineer......toot toot

Oh, you need to look at the image a few posts above....then scratch and sniff..........

Posted by: Aaron Cox Feb 2 2006, 05:19 PM

thank you

Posted by: Aaron Cox Feb 4 2006, 12:13 AM

ron was off on a few pins....

ironically, i think this solves my foglight problem.


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Posted by: Aaron Cox Feb 4 2006, 12:25 AM

just for reference in case someone does a search in the future...

this is a fog light/rear defrost switch (same switch - different knob insert)
should be able to read the 3 terminals....


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Posted by: jrcui Feb 4 2006, 12:49 AM

I have to replace the switch on my 75... what's the best/easiest way to do it?


Mahalo in Advance... (and thanks for Adidas for hooking me up... money order should be in the mail Sat/Mon).
Vince

Posted by: lapuwali Feb 4 2006, 01:31 AM

QUOTE (jrcui @ Feb 3 2006, 10:49 PM)

I have to replace the switch on my 75... what's the best/easiest way to do it? Mahalo in Advance... (and thanks for Adidas for hooking me up... money order should be in the mail Sat/Mon). Vince

Well, the EASIEST way is to call up Pelican and hand them $400 and get a new switch, then just pop it in.

You'll likely have to search on Ebay to try to find a used one that works. If yours doesn't work, look at the site mentioned above and you might be able to repair it yourself.

Posted by: jim_hoyland Feb 4 2006, 01:19 PM

Aaron, Can to label the light switch terminals as to waht each is doing--for reference

Posted by: Aaron Cox Feb 4 2006, 01:20 PM

QUOTE (jim_hoyland @ Feb 4 2006, 12:19 PM)

Aaron, Can to label the light switch terminals as to waht each is doing--for reference

haynes manual aint here....

but maybe a project for later in the week

Posted by: SirAndy Feb 4 2006, 10:55 PM

QUOTE (SLITS @ Feb 1 2006, 03:00 PM)

How 'bout you PM me an address and I send you a "late" switch...used, unknown, but..............

arrived today!

schank yuu sör ...
Andy

Posted by: rdauenhauer Dec 8 2013, 01:45 PM

Did some searching but didnt find a definitive answer: http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=98674&hl=headlight+switch++early

Posted by: SirAndy Dec 8 2013, 02:34 PM

Holy mother of mummified threads!