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Posted by: Eric_Shea Feb 19 2006, 05:23 PM

I'm looking at 2 1/16" VDO's (given up on the 904 thingy)

VDO 301-015 - Requires the 'universal sender'
VDO 301-020 works with the bug OEM sender.

Anybody have knowledge as to if I can use 020 with a teener sender?

Thanks in advance,

E.

Posted by: Eric_Shea Feb 19 2006, 08:10 PM

Anyone?

Posted by: type47fan Feb 19 2006, 08:13 PM

Works with stock sender. . . .approximately $180.00, though.

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Posted by: Eric_Shea Feb 19 2006, 08:25 PM

Not sure what you're trying to say... are you wanting to sell your center console? I'm not looking for a center console...

I'm looking to mount a gauge where some of the factory GT cars had them and I'd like to have it tie in to my original sender.

If someone can get the number off said gauge in the center console it would help

(photo off Armando's site... thanks Armando for hosting such a great service)

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Posted by: Aaron Cox Feb 19 2006, 08:40 PM

do a search for fuel tank sender resistance...

i want to say it DOES work

Posted by: Eric_Shea Feb 19 2006, 09:29 PM

Thanks... I had no idea it was discussed at that length. Thanks to James and Trekkor for helping and paving the way.

Looks like the 020 is the one.

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s=&act=Search&CODE=show&searchid=465b3fd2bdc9c529f6b5b46969aa1914&search_in=posts&result_type=topics&highlite=fuel+tank+and+sender+and+resistance

CIP1 has them for $23.95 in the catalog and $29.95 http://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=VDO%2D301%2D020... Hmmmmmmmm

Posted by: sixnotfour Feb 19 2006, 09:30 PM

The GT gauge is bigger , same dia. as the center console gauges.

Posted by: Eric_Shea Feb 19 2006, 09:32 PM

The hole in my dash doesn't exist and I don't want to get that anal. 2 1/16th should be fine for my 74 clone.

Thanks though... interesting info. Are they a metric size?

Posted by: Eric_Shea Feb 19 2006, 09:33 PM

JP... if you still have one and it's a silver button, I could go for that. Otherwise... the new ones should work.

E.

Posted by: type47fan Feb 19 2006, 11:43 PM

QUOTE (sixnotfour @ Feb 19 2006, 08:30 PM)
The GT gauge is bigger , same dia. as the center console gauges.

Gauge case size diameter: 60mm.

Posted by: JOHNMAN Feb 19 2006, 11:53 PM

I had one about that size in the track car dash until I removed the speedometer and replaced it with a stock fuel gauge.

I recall only having to add a single resistor to the sending unit to get the aftermarked VDO gauge to read fairly accurately with the stock sender. The universal sender never worked that well.

Posted by: goose2 Feb 20 2006, 11:19 PM

I used an 020 with a stock sender...seems to work OK

Posted by: 914Timo Feb 21 2006, 01:40 AM

Didn´t saw this before and now after Goose2´s message I am a little confused. Stock 914 sender is tube type and you can not use gauge designed for Bug style sender with that.

Accordind VDO´s manual, the Bug sender (pendulum type) gives 0 - 180 ohms and 0 ohms when empty. The stock 914 tube type sender gives 0 - 80 ohms and 0 ohms when full. When empty, the tube type should give something between 60 and 90 ohms. I have measured my sender gives about 80 ohms.

Hope these helps you, Eric.

Posted by: goose2 Feb 21 2006, 09:16 AM

clarification on my earlier post: I bought my gauge off eBay...seller listed it as a "Bug" gauge and stated it also works with 914 sender. I hooked it up, it works....that's all I know. I do remember the bug senders changed somewhere along the way. I hope I haven't mislead you Eric.

Posted by: lapuwali Feb 21 2006, 09:34 AM

QUOTE (914Timo @ Feb 20 2006, 11:40 PM)
Didn´t saw this before and now after Goose2´s message I am a little confused. Stock 914 sender is tube type and you can not use gauge designed for Bug style sender with that.

Accordind VDO´s manual, the Bug sender (pendulum type) gives 0 - 180 ohms and 0 ohms when empty. The stock 914 tube type sender gives 0 - 80 ohms and 0 ohms when full. When empty, the tube type should give something between 60 and 90 ohms. I have measured my sender gives about 80 ohms.

Hope these helps you, Eric.

The VDO gauge listed on egauges.com shows an ohm range for the Bug sender that matches the 914 sender. Trekkor has installed that gauge in his car and it works.

Posted by: Eric_Shea Feb 21 2006, 09:41 AM

Thanks all... I think I'll embark upon an 020 and report back. If I need to do some soldering I'll give James a call