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Posted by: Joseph Mills Feb 27 2006, 09:35 PM

TALIMENA 1 is BACK!!!

Okay... it's that time of the year again! If you live in the great southwest and are just dying for a teener gathering, you're in luck! This is a no fees, no frills, no t-shirt, cheap motel gathering of teener owners with an emphasis on DRIVING.

Details:

Saturday, April 22nd
10:00am (meet in parking lot)
Kiamichi Inn (504 Dallas St.)
Talihina, OK ( http://www.talihinacc.com/ ).

For reservations call 918-567-2243. Tell "Kitty" you're with the 914 group.
These are new rates (still cheap):

1 bed 1-2 people 38.41
2 bed 2-3 people 49.39
3 bed 3-5 people 60.36

We will plan on heading out from Kitty's parking lot around 11:00am.

I will bring two of my 2-way radios. If you have some, bring'em... along with your mobil phone.

Remember, this is not a drive around the block - be adequately prepared... or be prepared to be adequately humiliated. smile.gif Extra parts and tools are strongly advised.


We have 120 miles of beautiful driving in store.

The tour will be similar in nature to the MUSR road tours, in that there will be opportunities for some "spirited" driving, but it is not a race, nor is it a competition. If you want to race, meet me at the next MUSR AX. All participants are encouraged to drive at their own comfortable pace. We will be stopping on numerous occasions for "breaks" at the scenic viewpoints and a few "photo ops'. This will allow us to re-group when necessary. Bring your camera!
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OVERVIEW:
This is an informal gathering of Oklahoma, Arkansas, and Texas 914 drivers and their cars. We will meet in Talihina, OK, at the Kiamichi Inn. This is a classic "car" motel from the sixties. We again have permission to grill hamburgers in the parking lot Saturday night right next to our cars. Miss Kitty (motel owner) likes our group.

From Talihina, we will approach State Highway 1, also known as the Talimena National Scenic Byway, or for short, Talimena Drive. This road runs for sixty miles to the town of Mena, AR. Although other states can boast of a larger quantity of twisties, Talimena holds it's own when it comes to a driving challenge, and has been identified as one of the best sportscar roads in America by Car and Driver Magazine and various other car and bike organizations. It extends west to east on top of the ridgeline of Winding Stair Mountain and Rich Mountain in the Ouachita National Forest north of the Kiamichi Mountains.

These sixty miles of highway are filled with sharp curves and 13% grades of unbroken blacktop. There are lots of both low and high speed turns with many tight switchbacks that are often preceded by steep downhill grades. Your brakes should be in their best condition.

Overall, the road surface itself is in very good shape with only occasional, rough areas. There are many scenic vistas that overlook the valleys for pulling over and regrouping, or taking some pics. All of it comes together so nicely, that even if you're temporarily stuck behind a slow moving RV, it's still a cool drive.

We will tour around Mena, have a lunch break, and when everyone is ready, get back to the driving task at hand, and tour back to Talihina. After a break, we'll get together for our cookout and favorite beverages. Sunday morning we'll have a nice breakfast before heading home.

This is a fair weather get together. Mild chance of rain will not deter us, however eminent threat of severe precipitation will cancel our plans. We will be in touch as the time draws near.

Hope to see you!

Posted by: Joseph Mills Feb 27 2006, 09:45 PM

A few pics from last year...


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Posted by: Joseph Mills Feb 27 2006, 09:48 PM

you need a good head of steam for this one biggrin.gif


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Posted by: Joseph Mills Feb 27 2006, 09:49 PM

LOTS of these turns...


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Posted by: Joseph Mills Feb 27 2006, 09:50 PM

Oh yeah...

So who is planning on going? biggrin.gif

Posted by: dlee1967 Feb 27 2006, 09:53 PM

It's a haul from Houston, but I am willing. Let's see if Anne will come with me and drive her car. I won't hold me breath for the other folks. Maybe Redbeard will blow the dust off of the "Suicide Blonde" and tow dolly?

Posted by: Eddie Williams Feb 27 2006, 09:58 PM

QUOTE (dlee1967 @ Feb 27 2006, 09:53 PM)
I won't hold me breath for the other folks.

Hey I resemble that comment...

hijacked.gif When are we going to have another Houston get together??

Posted by: Andyrew Feb 27 2006, 10:32 PM

I like that uphill!

bet I could reach the end of 5th... lol



looks like fun!

Posted by: Aaron Cox Feb 27 2006, 10:37 PM

QUOTE (Andyrew @ Feb 27 2006, 09:32 PM)
I like that uphill!

bet I could reach the end of 5th... lol



looks like fun!

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gotta lug all that bondo up the hill.... laugh.gif poke.gif

Posted by: Joseph Mills Feb 27 2006, 10:46 PM

David Lee...

I'd love to see some V8's rip those hills. Those hills need some rippin'. biggrin.gif

And if you show up Andrew, I'll pay for your gas (up the hill). beer.gif

Posted by: ClayPerrine Feb 27 2006, 10:46 PM

Hey.. I know the car in most of your pictures!!! I was either driving or riding in it. biggrin.gif


Planning on being there. Bringing BOTH cars this year.

We are going to arrive Friday night like last year. Now if I can remember how to get there..... wink.gif


C'mon everyone.... let's driving.gif

Posted by: Eddie Williams Feb 27 2006, 10:51 PM

If I had a driver, I'd do it. I don't want to be the one in a minivan!

Posted by: ClayPerrine Feb 27 2006, 10:57 PM

Joseph,

Are you going to drive with both hands this year? poke.gif


I would suggest getting a camera mount for the car before the run.

Maybe I will bring the video camera and mount it in my car.




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Posted by: Joseph Mills Feb 27 2006, 11:01 PM

QUOTE (ClayPerrine @ Feb 27 2006, 10:46 PM)
Bringing BOTH cars this year.

We are going to arrive Friday night like last year.

I'm looking forward to seeing your car since I had to miss MUSR last year.

So now we have a six and "possibly" a V8.

Hope I can hang. unsure.gif

If time permits, I'd love to get down on Friday.

Since there are going to be more Okies this year, you Texas guys need to step up to the plate. biggrin.gif

Posted by: ClayPerrine Feb 27 2006, 11:05 PM

Another shot to entice the slackers out there.....

BTW... Is Kurt of the wooden bumpers coming again this year?




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Posted by: dlee1967 Feb 27 2006, 11:05 PM

Hey Clay......stop poking people........ poke.gif

Back at yah......I'll have my 914 trailer if you should need it.....LOL


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Posted by: Aaron Cox Feb 27 2006, 11:06 PM

can clay reach the pedals?

i hear he is wicked short biggrin.gif

Posted by: Joseph Mills Feb 27 2006, 11:07 PM

QUOTE (ClayPerrine @ Feb 27 2006, 10:57 PM)
Joseph,

Are you going to drive with both hands this year? poke.gif

Hey...

I drink with one hand...

I shoot with one hand...

I drive with one hand...

when I'm shifting...




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Posted by: ClayPerrine Feb 27 2006, 11:08 PM

QUOTE (dlee1967 @ Feb 27 2006, 11:05 PM)
Hey Clay......stop poking people........ poke.gif

Back at yah......I'll have my 914 trailer if you should need it.....LOL

Ah... the joys of a "new" 914 that has not been sorted out. finger.gif

I have driven it a bunch since that picture, and the burns from the heat exchangers have healed.

It runs GOOD!!!! driving.gif


And I got a portable grill for christmas that I am going to bring. chowtime.gif

Posted by: dlee1967 Feb 27 2006, 11:09 PM

jsharp.gif Sorry....I couldn't resist........

Posted by: ClayPerrine Feb 27 2006, 11:09 PM

QUOTE (Aaron Cox @ Feb 27 2006, 11:06 PM)
can clay reach the pedals?

i hear he is wicked short biggrin.gif

I am 5'6" tall. And that is tall enough so my feet reach the ground. biggrin.gif


Yes, I can reach the pedals, but only if the seat is ALL the way forward.

Posted by: ClayPerrine Feb 27 2006, 11:12 PM

Joseph...


Should we call this the Talimena 1 Classic?

Posted by: Joseph Mills Feb 27 2006, 11:29 PM

QUOTE (Eddie Williams @ Feb 27 2006, 10:51 PM)
If I had a driver, I'd do it. I don't want to be the one in a minivan!

John Travolta drove a minivan...

Big time Gansta...


Posted by: Joseph Mills Feb 27 2006, 11:52 PM

QUOTE (ClayPerrine @ Feb 27 2006, 11:12 PM)
Joseph...
Should we call this the Talimena 1 Classic?

Nope.

Too many classics already.

We're more like pioneers. biggrin.gif

We're driving the road. And the road is highway 1.




Posted by: mrdezyne Feb 28 2006, 09:58 AM

Oh how I wish I had something running for this drive. Start a list for next year and put my name at the top. My old BMW group made this run a couple of times and it is the cats meow! Have a blast, be safe, and most important... POST SOME DAMN PICS WHEN YOU GET BACK!!!! biggrin.gif

Posted by: Betty Feb 28 2006, 10:31 AM

It really is beautiful up there around that time of year!!! wub.gif And the cookout is the most relaxed time I've ever had at a car event anything! You have literally three feet to stumble/be carried from where your empties litter the ground to your motel room. beer.gif

Of course.... if we're talking V8 and 6's.... my poor little 1.8 will be stylin' in the back of the conga line. biggrin.gif

I'll wave as you guys pull away on the uphill slopes... You can then wave back when I catch up through the corners. driving-girl.gif

Posted by: ClayPerrine Feb 28 2006, 03:41 PM

QUOTE (Betty @ Feb 28 2006, 10:31 AM)
It really is beautiful up there around that time of year!!! wub.gif And the cookout is the most relaxed time I've ever had at a car event anything! You have literally three feet to stumble/be carried from where your empties litter the ground to your motel room. beer.gif

Of course.... if we're talking V8 and 6's.... my poor little 1.8 will be stylin' in the back of the conga line. biggrin.gif

I'll wave as you guys pull away on the uphill slopes... You can then wave back when I catch up through the corners. driving-girl.gif

Guess who was doing the "carrying" and the cleanup of the empties..... dry.gif


Oh.. and if she says she is going to "catch up" in the downhill twisties, it means she will be right behind you blowing the horn wanting to pass...... driving-girl.gif




Posted by: jr91472 Feb 28 2006, 03:52 PM

hmm, missed this original post...

oh yea, I am IN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am putting the finishing touches on my new carbs and engine bay resto.... sawzall-smiley.gif Should be ready soon........

Seriously folks, this event rocks.....don' t miss it.

Posted by: ClayPerrine Feb 28 2006, 03:58 PM

Just made the room reservations.... We will be in the same room as last year.




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Posted by: ClayPerrine Feb 28 2006, 07:37 PM

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Hopefully we will have a bigger turnout than last year.... rocking nana.gif

Posted by: Gint Feb 28 2006, 08:15 PM

It's *only* 871 miles... idea.gif

Posted by: ClayPerrine Mar 1 2006, 06:37 AM

QUOTE (Gint @ Feb 28 2006, 08:15 PM)
It's *only* 871 miles... idea.gif

That's not far at all...

C'mon, you know you want to show up.


I talked to Jean Yoder yesterday. She is gonna kick Joe out of their store for a couple of days. She says they needs a break.







Posted by: jr91472 Mar 1 2006, 08:49 AM

ugh.....Easter weekend...... headbang.gif

I am screwed...

Posted by: ClayPerrine Mar 1 2006, 11:05 AM

It was pointed out that the weekend of April 15th is also Easter Weekend. So the Talimena 1 "Executive Committee" (Joseph and myself) have chosen to change the dates.

Update your calendars boys and girls.... It is now April 22nd.


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Posted by: Joseph Mills Mar 1 2006, 11:07 AM

Thanks for the heads up JR.

We're changing the date to the following weekend.

Our new date is April 22nd. I have edited the original announcement.

My life would be much simpler if Palm Pilot calendars included holidays... biggrin.gif

Posted by: jr91472 Mar 1 2006, 11:17 AM

QUOTE (Joseph Mills @ Mar 1 2006, 09:07 AM)

My life would be much simpler if Palm Pilot calendars included holidays... biggrin.gif

yea, I have the same compliant.....thanks beer.gif

Posted by: ClayPerrine Mar 1 2006, 11:19 AM

JR,

We changed it because of you... so don't back out on us.....


If you do, I am going to come over to your house and WELD JACKSTANDS TO THE BOTTOM OF YOUR 914!!!! wink.gif

Posted by: jr91472 Mar 1 2006, 11:20 AM

oh and I am in biggrin.gif

I am fairly confident that my neighbor with 74 will be coming as well. I will confirm. beerchug.gif

Posted by: ClayPerrine Mar 1 2006, 11:22 AM

QUOTE (jr91472 @ Mar 1 2006, 11:20 AM)
oh and I am in biggrin.gif

I am fairly confident that my neighbor with 74 will be coming as well. I will confirm. beerchug.gif

That reminds me.. I need to tell Bob and Debbine about this. They loved it last year.


I gotta get those two up and running on the internet. biggrin.gif

Posted by: ClayPerrine Mar 1 2006, 11:27 AM

The really nice folks at the motel there changed my reservations automatically when Joseph called them to change the weekend.


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We are all set for April 22nd. driving.gif

Posted by: ClayPerrine Mar 1 2006, 01:31 PM

Now this sucks... I just found out that April 23rd is a AX for Maverick region. We may have to go back on Saturday night so we can go to the AX on Sunday.....




Posted by: shoguneagle Mar 3 2006, 10:10 PM

I was just dropping by and saw this thread. Read it. Looks like a great trip!!! Hope everyone will make it and have a great time. Make sure you post pictures and let the rest of us know how it went. The road looks great.

Enjoy.

Steve Hurt

Posted by: GS9146Driver Mar 9 2006, 09:04 PM

Hello all!
Guess I'd better get cracking and fix one of the teeners. The Six has been down for a battery tray replacement welder.gif and front sway bar. The 1.8 shucked a CV backing out of the dentist's office a month ago. I've got to extract a broken bolt and repack the CV. I should at least be able to get that done before th 22nd of April. I am going to shoot for getting the Six done to test the sway bar on those twisties. driving.gif
Okay, now all I've got to do is make reservations.
See everyone there,
George
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Clay, don't let 'em get to ya' man; I also drive with the seat at the foward stop. I always keep in mind that at 5'6" I am the tall one in my family, yeah! mueba.gif

Posted by: ClayPerrine Mar 9 2006, 09:35 PM

QUOTE (GS9146Driver @ Mar 9 2006, 09:04 PM)

Clay, don't let 'em get to ya' man; I also drive with the seat at the foward stop. I always keep in mind that at 5'6" I am the tall one in my family, yeah! mueba.gif

Naaa... they don't get to me. I deal with that stromberg.gif all the time. I am the tallest of 4 siblings, and I am the same height as my dad, and a lot taller than my mother. The problem is that my sisters all married 6 footers. So my nephews and nieces are all taller than me.

I get my revenge when I can stand under a car on the lift, and my nephew has to sit in a chair to work with me. biggrin.gif

Posted by: Joseph Mills Mar 10 2006, 01:09 PM

QUOTE (GS9146Driver @ Mar 9 2006, 09:04 PM)
Hello all!
Guess I'd better get cracking and fix one of the teeners.

George - glad to hear you can make it. I talked to Curt recently and he said there are 4 other teeners from Tulsa going.

I gotta get started on the car "badges".



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Posted by: GS9146Driver Mar 22 2006, 05:49 PM

Hi guys,
I found some metal in the oil sump screen of the 1.8 last weekend and some as well in the oil filter. So, whether or not I make it on the drive depends if I get the Six back together by then.
I have decided to build up my spare 2.0 for the track car before I tear down the 1.8. I don't need another engine in pieces.
I will try to keep you posted on the progress with the Six.
Later, George

Posted by: Joseph Mills Mar 22 2006, 06:12 PM

George-

Track car?

You have a third 914? confused24.gif


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Posted by: dakotaewing Mar 22 2006, 11:05 PM

QUOTE (Joseph Mills @ Mar 22 2006, 07:12 PM)
George-

Track car?

You have a third 914? confused24.gif


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George has 4 914's and 3 PLANES in his "garage".... av-943.gif

His garage could hold about 35 914's... aktion035.gif

Sorry George - I couldn't resist... rolleyes.gif

Posted by: tommy914 Mar 24 2006, 03:57 PM

Question.
How long will the drive take from Mena to Talihina (1 way) along the scenic hwy 1?

I'm considering coming up that way on Friday, and going back that way on Sunday. that way I get to drive it 4 times in 2 days. biggrin.gif

Posted by: ClayPerrine Mar 24 2006, 08:53 PM

It took us a couple hours last year. And we were NOT going slow.....



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Posted by: Joseph Mills Mar 30 2006, 11:35 PM

QUOTE (tommy914 @ Mar 24 2006, 03:57 PM)
Question.
How long will the drive take from Mena to Talihina (1 way) along the scenic hwy 1?

I'm considering coming up that way on Friday, and going back that way on Sunday. that way I get to drive it 4 times in 2 days. biggrin.gif

That will be 4 chances that Rottweiler will have to bite a big chunk out of your rear tire! biggrin.gif

Actually, there's no loose animals about. Other than us. w00t.gif

It's a beautiful drive and keeps you on your toes.

Please join in - you could be in the running for traveling the longest distance. I think that prize is a lap dance, or was it a lap belt? Can't remember. unsure.gif biggrin.gif

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Posted by: Joseph Mills Mar 31 2006, 09:49 AM

Just a reminder.


TALIMENA I


is now just 3 weeks away ph34r.gif


Looks like I'll have fresh rubber for it! driving.gif

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Posted by: maxwelj Mar 31 2006, 10:17 AM

If'n you don't mind a Volvo tagging along, We may be there. Just not enough time to finish up the teener.


Posted by: Joseph Mills Mar 31 2006, 03:45 PM

No problem Jack!

Of course Clay and Curt will make you drive in the back. They're the bad cop, I'm the good cop. biggrin.gif

This drive is enjoyable even in a Volvo! (Just kidding - I'm on my 3rd 850 wagon in a row - I love 'em).

But you will have to bring lots of photos of your car for us to look at.

Hope ya'll can attend! smile.gif

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Posted by: vsg914 Apr 1 2006, 04:06 PM

Hello all. Curt and the infamous "wooden bumper" will return this year. We have a new front bar, bilstein sports, and new rubber this year.

Jack, bring the volvo!!!

Tommy, it's a 60 mile drive. We made the return trip last year in 65 minutes. Glad there was no local law enforcement on the road!!!

I look forward to seeing everyone from last year, and a few new faces too.

Joseph, thinking about a drive to your town next weekend, since the bumblebee is now at it's new home in K.C., and I have nothing to do on the weekends anymore. Yeah, right!!! laugh.gif Actually I have a new project lined up already. A 74 2L that is in dire need of body, engine and mechanical repair, but all there, and no structural rust.


mrdezyne, I wanna see your suby conversion!

Clay, do I need to bring the golf ball grill?

Later, Curt


Posted by: Joseph Mills Apr 1 2006, 07:33 PM

QUOTE (vsg914 @ Apr 1 2006, 04:06 PM)

Joseph, thinking about a drive to your town next weekend, since the bumblebee is now at it's new home in K.C., and I have nothing to do on the weekends anymore. Yeah, right!!!   laugh.gif Actually I have a new project lined up already. A 74 2L that is in dire need of body, engine and mechanical repair, but all there, and no structural rust.

Hey Curt!

Just finished installing a bug pac so I won't spew oil on the AX course tomorrow.

I'll be around next week - I am tentatively planning on attending a dyno day with the bmw club sat. morning.

If you don't get down here, I'll be up there soon.

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Posted by: ClayPerrine Apr 1 2006, 09:10 PM

Curt,
We may need more than one grill, if everyone who has talked about it shows up. I got a toolbox grill for christmas that I am dying to try out! It's coming with me.



Posted by: jr91472 Apr 3 2006, 09:41 AM

Well guys, I am sorry to say but I have a case of the "Dellorto Drip" that will keep me and my car at home this year. I will hopefully be shipping the affected carb off the ACE this week for repair.

So you guys have fun and BE SAFE. Stay on the pavement lol2.gif lol2.gif

Oh and Clay, technically my car is no longer on jack stands so keep your damn welder away from my car ar15.gif

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Posted by: Joseph Mills Apr 3 2006, 11:10 PM

Have you considered installing a simple rebuild kit for them?

Not having any previous experience, I did my Webers last year and it was pretty easy.

Del's may be different.

Sorry you won't make it. I know you've done a fair amount of work on your car since the last drive.

We'll miss not seeing you this year. sad.gif

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Posted by: jr91472 Apr 4 2006, 06:54 AM

QUOTE (Joseph Mills @ Apr 3 2006, 09:10 PM)
Have you considered installing a simple rebuild kit for them?

I have already rebuilt both of them. Apparently this is defect from the manufacturing process (lead plugs that sometime leak later in life). Thus I am sending the one carb to an expert that Jake Raby recommended). I won't be sidelined for long.

I am still planning of making MUSR this year too. I will catch you then.

Posted by: ClayPerrine Apr 4 2006, 04:47 PM

QUOTE (jr91472 @ Apr 3 2006, 09:41 AM)
Well guys, I am sorry to say but I have a case of the "Dellorto Drip" that will keep me and my car at home this year. I will hopefully be shipping the affected carb off the ACE this week for repair.

So you guys have fun and BE SAFE. Stay on the pavement lol2.gif lol2.gif

Oh and Clay, technically my car is no longer on jack stands so keep your damn welder away from my car ar15.gif

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We changed the date just for you, and now you are not coming!!!! dry.gif

I am packing up the welder and some junk jackstands.....


(I didn't say your car would be on jackstands when I started, I just said that I would weld it up if you didn't show).


Anyone want to help with a welder party????? biggrin.gif

Posted by: GS9146Driver Apr 4 2006, 08:07 PM

Hello All!
I managed to make some progress last weekend on the Six. If all goes well, I may just make it. I also put in a set of Koni reds in the front and finished the majority of the front swaybar install. I need to put a few weld beads on the sway mounts and then reassemble. Then tomorrow, a coworker will lend me his peg welder to dent pull a little bow in the upper wheel house. I wll then be able to weld the new battery tray in place. Paint and reassemble.
Gee, maybe I should forgo sleeping until I finish...
Well, maybe I'll just stay up a little later working on it.

Until next time...
Regards,
George

Posted by: Joseph Mills Apr 5 2006, 12:32 PM

QUOTE (GS9146Driver @ Apr 4 2006, 09:07 PM)

I managed to make some progress last weekend on the Six. If all goes well, I may just make it. I also put in a set of Koni reds in the front and finished the majority of the front swaybar install. I need to put a few weld beads on the sway mounts and then reassemble. Then tomorrow, a coworker will lend me his peg welder to dent pull a little bow in the upper wheel house. I wll then be able to weld the new battery tray in place. Paint and reassemble.
Gee, maybe I should forgo sleeping until I finish...
Well, maybe I'll just stay up a little later working on it.

Until next time...
Regards,
George

Sounds like you got it all goin'on!

I've spent the last two days trying to resolve my wheel dilemmas and tire selection. Looks like I'll be rollin' on 16's for the street & track, but still 15's for AX.

But that's another story. biggrin.gif

Glad to hear you're making some progress.


Posted by: GS9146Driver Apr 5 2006, 04:55 PM

Well, I managed to make good progress last night. Sway bar plates welded and primer painted. Another coat tonight, paint tomorrow, then reassemble.
I have the dent pull welder in hand. I hope to have good luck with it tonight.
Discovered that the replacement altenator will not work, Rick at Rennsport is trying to figure that out for me. If all else fails, I will reinstall the old one for now. It just has noisy bearings.
I'd better get cracking, maybe I can get the sway bar primered before dinner.

I'm feeling another late night in the shop/hangar coming on tonight!

Regards to all! beerchug.gif
George

Posted by: ClayPerrine Apr 5 2006, 09:12 PM

Ok.. everyone who is leaving from the DFW area, how about we meet up for a caravan up there on Friday?

I was thinking the parking lot of The Complete Garage on Forest lane (Owned by the Yodster... ).

But if some of you are coming from the Plano/Richardson area, this will be in the complete wrong direction.


Alternative is to meet at H&H so we can harass Wes before we leave.


Let me know.....



Also... Can I get a 914 count ?

Posted by: dakotaewing Apr 6 2006, 03:49 PM

There is a slim possibility that I may be part of the non 914 non club -
Heather and I would drive up Friday PM as well ...
In the TERCEL.... blink.gif wacko.gif av-943.gif

TE

Clay - Is Yoder coming ???

Posted by: ClayPerrine Apr 6 2006, 07:01 PM

QUOTE (dakotaewing @ Apr 6 2006, 03:49 PM)

Clay - Is Yoder coming ???

Jean (AKA Doc Yoder) wants him to go. But I dont' know if he decided to go or not.

Call him and help convince him.



Posted by: tommy914 Apr 7 2006, 08:34 PM

Pulled the 914 into the garage for a little cleanup before the trip.


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Posted by: thewheel69 Apr 8 2006, 09:00 AM

Hey all, newbie here in DFW area (Uptown area) my "new to me" 74' 1.8, bone stock Ravenna Green 914 and I are "planning" on joining you guys on this trip. A couple of questions to this crew (bear with me);

In reading through this thread, I understand this will be a "spirited ride"... as you all are aware the 74' 1.8 is the feablest of all our steads. Am I going to get dusted here?

Also, I will be bringing a fair amount of my own tools (including my wife) screwy.gif but my real question is... I am still working out the kinks and breaking her in (the car, not the wife) and I am concerned about making the trip there and back in one piece. She seems pretty road worthy at this early stage, new tires, plugs, coil, wires, fuel lines, air lines, cream coated tank, brake lines, fresh brake oil, engine oil, etc.

With two weeks to go, I will try and take her out for a longer run and see how she performs but do you guys have any concerns in me coming along? The last thing you all need is some dumb ass slowing things up... confused24.gif

Thanks for any feedback/recommendations. I really am looking forward to this trip if I can make it.

Posted by: ClayPerrine Apr 8 2006, 06:15 PM

QUOTE (thewheel69 @ Apr 8 2006, 09:00 AM)
Hey all, newbie here in DFW area (Uptown area) my "new to me" 74' 1.8, bone stock Ravenna Green 914 and I are "planning" on joining you guys on this trip. A couple of questions to this crew (bear with me);

In reading through this thread, I understand this will be a "spirited ride"... as you all are aware the 74' 1.8 is the feablest of all our steads. Am I going to get dusted here?

Also, I will be bringing a fair amount of my own tools (including my wife) screwy.gif but my real question is... I am still working out the kinks and breaking her in (the car, not the wife) and I am concerned about making the trip there and back in one piece. She seems pretty road worthy at this early stage, new tires, plugs, coil, wires, fuel lines, air lines, cream coated tank, brake lines, fresh brake oil, engine oil, etc.

With two weeks to go, I will try and take her out for a longer run and see how she performs but do you guys have any concerns in me coming along? The last thing you all need is some dumb ass slowing things up... confused24.gif

Thanks for any feedback/recommendations. I really am looking forward to this trip if I can make it.

You will not be the only 74 1.8L there. Betty (my wife) is bringing her car, and I am bringing mine.

Don't worry too much about the trip up there. We are getting together on Friday for a caravan to Talamena. You are not only welcome, but encouraged to join us for the drive. We are firm believers in "safety in numbers". But in this case, if you break down, someone in the group will have the tools and parts to help fix it. And we don't leave anyone behind.



Posted by: thewheel69 Apr 8 2006, 06:25 PM

Cool!!! boldblue.gif

I have been hammering on her a bit today and she has been very resilient thus far... my main concern is the unknown... things like the clutch cable (I will be getting a fresh one in the trunk just in case), Throttle cable... ditto...

The suspension is pretty spongy but not that bad... might get some new struts and springs on her prior to the trip...

Is the Talamena Inn all booked up at this point I wonder? Do you have a headcount?

Can I ask more questions??? huh.gif

I am really looking forward to getting together and getting some great advice while driving some great roads!

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Done this ride on my motorcycle so this will be a bit slower...

Thanks again Clay for the encouragement and open invite.


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Posted by: ClayPerrine Apr 8 2006, 09:16 PM

No room at the inn? I dont' know... you would have to call and find out.

I don't have a headcount either, but it looks like a bunch of people are going to be there.

Rich Johnson called me to say he would probably be there.... smilie_pokal.gif

Posted by: dakotaewing Apr 9 2006, 10:28 AM

Clay -
What approximate time is the caravan planing on leaving - I need an answer NOW due to the spouse scheduling some work issues... spank.gif

Thom

Posted by: ClayPerrine Apr 9 2006, 04:45 PM

Noon on Friday.


IF we are going to have a bunch of people from the Plano/Richardson/Allen area, then we will meet at Wes' shop.



Posted by: dakotaewing Apr 9 2006, 05:16 PM

Noon won't work unless I can get her to reschedule with her client.... headbang.gif

Posted by: ClayPerrine Apr 9 2006, 07:12 PM

Noon was just the first time that popped into my head. If you need it later, that's fine. But we need to leave well before 3 so we miss rush hour.

It's a 5 hour drive up there. If we get up there too early we can eat dinner, but there is NOTHING to do after that. They roll up the sidewalks after dark.



So anytime before 3 is fine with me.




Posted by: dakotaewing Apr 10 2006, 12:51 PM

Clay -
Heather is shooting a bridal at 3:30 - so don't hold up the pack for us - I will let you know what we are doing once it gets figured out....

Posted by: sean_v8_914 Apr 13 2006, 01:12 PM

how does OK qualify as "southwest"? west of the Missisippi and south of CAnada?

Posted by: So.Cal.914 Apr 13 2006, 02:25 PM


I hear that, when I read "Southwest" I thought Cool ,San Diego I can make that one. Talimena is only 1450 miles away, no problem. Next year... smoke.gif

Posted by: GS9146Driver Apr 13 2006, 07:46 PM

Hello again all!
I'm still working every day on the Six. Sway bar is in. Front struts in. Fuel tank back in. Final bondo skim coat on the upper wheel house done. Sand and then primer tomorrow. Saturday, welder.gif time to get jiggy with the MIG and get the battery tray in. I hope to put the engine back in Sunday or Monday. Been working in the shop 'til 12 am every night, getting up at 5 am is a drag! Come on, Friday! Curt Curtis called yesterday, wanted to help. Sorry to say, that it just takes a lot of man hours to get it done right.
Well, hoping I make it on the drive.
Later, George

Posted by: Joseph Mills Apr 14 2006, 07:08 PM

QUOTE(sean_v8_914 @ Apr 13 2006, 02:12 PM) *

how does OK qualify as "southwest"? west of the Missisippi and south of CAnada?





Well, since you asked, rolleyes.gif the Southwest is composed of the following states:

Oklahoma
Texas
New Mexico
Colorado
Utah
Arizona
Nevada
California



And actually, lots of people do not consider that California "qualifies" as part of the Southwest, being considered instead, a portion of the Western Pacific.

But hey, you guys are invited anyways! biggrin.gif


Joseph
914 AXhound






Posted by: Joseph Mills Apr 14 2006, 10:19 PM

QUOTE(GS9146Driver @ Apr 13 2006, 08:46 PM) *

Hello again all!
I'm still working every day on the Six. Sway bar is in. Front struts in. Fuel tank back in. Final bondo skim coat on the upper wheel house done. Sand and then primer tomorrow. Saturday, welder.gif time to get jiggy with the MIG and get the battery tray in. I hope to put the engine back in Sunday or Monday. Been working in the shop 'til 12 am every night, getting up at 5 am is a drag! Come on, Friday! Curt Curtis called yesterday, wanted to help. Sorry to say, that it just takes a lot of man hours to get it done right.
Well, hoping I make it on the drive.
Later, George





Keep gittin' her done! You can do it! smash.gif

Curt said he was comin' up to help you. None of this... drunk.gif

My gas tank is dripping Por-15 sealer out of it as I type. You have to wait four days before you add fuel. That will be Wednesday. That is cutting it close. Guess I'll have to do a BUNCH of test driving. biggrin.gif

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Posted by: thewheel69 Apr 16 2006, 08:05 AM

QUOTE
Ok.. everyone who is leaving from the DFW area, how about we meet up for a caravan up there on Friday?

I was thinking the parking lot of The Complete Garage on Forest lane (Owned by the Yodster... ).

But if some of you are coming from the Plano/Richardson area, this will be in the complete wrong direction.

Alternative is to meet at H&H so we can harass Wes before we leave.
Let me know.....
Also... Can I get a 914 count ?


So Clay, any decisions yet on the Dallas outbound gathering spot and time? I am most definitely in. the 1.8 has been running great and I am doing a valve adjustment today.

Do we have a headcount as yet?

Posted by: Joseph Mills Apr 16 2006, 11:08 AM

Several things:

I talked with Kitty at the Kiamichi Inn and she said she only has one room left in the "wing" of the motel reserved for us. She has plenty of other rooms available, they are just in a different wing a bit further away from our area.

Call 918-567-2243 to reserve a room and remember to tell them you're with the 914 group.

Here is a the list of people that have either been mentioned, or have indicated they would like to attend (+ denotes strongly confirmed):

Joseph Mills (OKC)+
Curt Curtis (Tulsa)+
Clay Perrine (Dallas)+
Betty Perrine(Dallas)+
GS9146Driver - George (Tulsa)+
dlee1967 - David (Houston)
tommy914 - Tommy (Ridgeland, MS)+
thewheel69 (Dallas)+
Craig Mitchell (OKC)
dakotaewing - Thom & Heather (Dallas)
maxwelj - Jack ( Owasso, OK)
Dave Forman (Tulsa)+
Jerry Aigret (Tulsa)+
Joe & Jean Yoder (Dallas)
Gint (Denver)
Redbeard (Houston?)
Richard Fisher (Dallas)+
Travis Howard. 73 2.0+
Robin Howard (Dallas) +
Julie Floyd (Dallas)+

Looks like we will have 12 to 16 teener drivers along with several "support" vehicles. rolleyes.gif

It would be nice to have a headcount. If it looks like you're attending, please respond here or send me a PM. I am working on a new tour decal for everyone.

I will be arriving Friday afternoon and staying thru Monday morning. Tommy, if you attend I will probably be interested in doing a portion of the drive again on Sunday when you return home to MS.

Another way to look at this event is to also view it as a "Reliability Tour". When finished with this 500 mile or so drive, you will have established a new benchmark in mileage for your teener. Nice! driving.gif driving.gif

Posted by: Joseph Mills Apr 16 2006, 11:37 AM

Five driving.gif days driving.gif and driving.gif counting... chowtime.gif beer3.gif




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Posted by: ClayPerrine Apr 16 2006, 01:18 PM

QUOTE(Joseph Mills @ Apr 16 2006, 12:08 PM) *

Several things:

I talked with Kitty at the Kiamichi Inn and she said she only has one room left in the "wing" of the motel reserved for us. She has plenty of other rooms available, they are just in a different wing a bit further away from our area.

Call 918-567-2243 to reserve a room and remember to tell them you're with the 914 group.

Here is a the list of people that have either been mentioned, or have indicated they would like to attend (+ denotes strongly confirmed):

Joseph Mills (OKC)+
Curt Curtis (Tulsa)+
Clay Perrine (Dallas)+
Betty Perrine(Dallas)+
GS9146Driver - George (Tulsa)+
dlee1967 - David (Houston)
tommy914 - Tommy (Ridgeland, MS)
thewheel69 (Dallas)+
Craig Mitchell (OKC)
dakotaewing - Thom & Heather (Dallas)
maxwelj - Jack ( Owasso, OK)
Dave Forman (Tulsa)+
Jerry Aigret (Tulsa)+
Rich Johnson (Dallas?)
Joe & Jean Yoder (Dallas)
Gint (Denver)
Redbeard (Houston?)

Looks like we will have 8 to 12 teener drivers along with several "support" vehicles. rolleyes.gif

It would be nice to have a headcount. If it looks like you're attending, please respond here or send me a PM. I am working on a new tour decal for everyone.

I will be arriving Friday afternoon and staying thru Monday morning. Tommy, if you attend I will probably be interested in doing a portion of the drive again on Sunday when you return home to MS.

Another way to look at this event is to also view it as a "Reliability Tour". When finished with this 500 mile or so drive, you will have established a new benchmark in mileage for your teener. Nice! driving.gif driving.gif



I have some additional folks coming, and one deletion.

Rich Johnson can't come.


Richard Fisher is coming (914 with a Brodix 350 in it)!!! mueba.gif

Travis Howard. 73 2.0
Robin Howard 944 dry.gif

Julie Floyd. 914 (Sorry Julie, I can't remember the year.)

I have heard a few more are going too, but we don't have an exact count of them.


Should be a great turnout this year!!!




Dallas and Houston area folks.



The caravan departs from Wes Hildreth's shop in Plano at 3PM. We want to beat the traffic out of Dallas.

Anyone remember the address of Wes' shop? I know it is between plano parkway and 15th street, just south of the old downtown. I can drive there, but I don't know the address.

Houston folks, if you have a problem with your car, We will get it fixed before we leave.

And my caravan rules are "no one gets left behind".

I can't wait to see everyone there!!! driving.gif driving-girl.gif

Posted by: Joseph Mills Apr 16 2006, 02:13 PM

Clay - I updated the list with the new additions you posted above.


We're going to need more of these... jsharp.gif ...ohmy.gif



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Posted by: ClayPerrine Apr 16 2006, 04:02 PM

Note to all the attendees....

If you are going to beer3.gif beerchug.gif beer.gif , then I suggest that you consider Oklahoma to be BYOB.

They only sell 3.2 beer there. And this is a small town so anything more "potent" is not available.


Pack your favorite stuff IN THE TRUNK and bring it with you for the evening after the drive.



Posted by: thewheel69 Apr 16 2006, 05:48 PM

Attached ImageClay et al, I can bring a portable grill? Didn't get to my valve adjustment today nor my shock/strut/spring replacement. mad.gif

She's running pretty good and I think she'll be fine for the trip... minus the spirited driving part. driving.gif

Oh well, I am really looking forward to this trip and our maiden voyage and some food chowtime.gif and imbibing.... beerchug.gif

Took this picture this afternoon

Posted by: Joseph Mills Apr 16 2006, 06:07 PM

QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ Apr 16 2006, 05:02 PM) *

Note to all the attendees....

If you are going to beer3.gif beerchug.gif beer.gif , then I suggest that you consider Oklahoma to be BYOB.

They only sell 3.2 beer there. And this is a small town so anything more "potent" is not available.





Not quite correct. All you can buy in grocery stores in OK is 3.2 beer. However there is a liquor store a few blocks down the street from the motel that will have whiskey, wine and 6.0 beer, just like in the big cities. biggrin.gif

Of course, most likely all they will have is stuff like Bud, Coors, Corona and Shiner, so if you want anything more sophisticated, then you will want to bring it with you. beer.gif

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Posted by: Joseph Mills Apr 16 2006, 06:13 PM

QUOTE(thewheel69 @ Apr 16 2006, 06:48 PM) *

Attached ImageClay et al, I can bring a portable grill? Didn't get to my valve adjustment today nor my shock/strut/spring replacement. mad.gif

She's running pretty good and I think she'll be fine for the trip... minus the spirited driving part. driving.gif

Oh well, I am really looking forward to this trip and our maiden voyage and some food chowtime.gif and imbibing.... beerchug.gif

Took this picture this afternoon



That would be great if you could bring your portable grill.

Your car is gorgeous! clap56.gif


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Posted by: tommy914 Apr 16 2006, 08:16 PM

Clay, put me down as a definate

Posted by: ClayPerrine Apr 16 2006, 08:39 PM

QUOTE(tommy914 @ Apr 16 2006, 09:16 PM) *

Clay, put me down as a definate



You going to meet up with us at Wes' shop?

Posted by: Red86944 Apr 16 2006, 11:09 PM

Clay,

you are so blessed that my 944 is coming this week-end.

Robyn


Posted by: ClayPerrine Apr 17 2006, 02:42 AM

QUOTE(Red86944 @ Apr 17 2006, 12:09 AM) *

Clay,

you are so blessed that my 944 is coming this week-end.

Robyn



Bloody water pumper.... Real Porsches have AIR COOLED motors in the MIddle of the car.

Back of the line for ya..... biggrin.gif

Posted by: tommy914 Apr 17 2006, 08:17 AM

QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ Apr 16 2006, 09:39 PM) *

QUOTE(tommy914 @ Apr 16 2006, 09:16 PM) *

Clay, put me down as a definate



You going to meet up with us at Wes' shop?


No, a little out of the way for me, I'll be at the hotel sometime Friday. Kinda depends on whether I end up taking the sceninc route on the way over.

Posted by: Red86944 Apr 17 2006, 03:24 PM

you will be following me Clay.... driving-girl.gif

Posted by: Joseph Mills Apr 17 2006, 06:38 PM

If the files I created for the vinyl guy work okay for him, I will have these stickers for everyone that attends our tour. You can put them on your car or tool box, etc.

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Posted by: thewheel69 Apr 17 2006, 06:47 PM

Very Nice!!! clap56.gif

Posted by: dennisc Apr 18 2006, 07:47 AM

Linda and I will be there.

Posted by: ClayPerrine Apr 18 2006, 11:36 AM

QUOTE(dennisc @ Apr 18 2006, 08:47 AM) *

Linda and I will be there.



Cool...

My car's twin is showing up too!!!!

Here is a map of the route...




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Posted by: Joseph Mills Apr 18 2006, 11:42 AM

QUOTE(dennisc @ Apr 18 2006, 08:47 AM) *

Linda and I will be there.






Great Dennis! I look forward to seeing you guys again. And since I missed MUSR last year, I still haven't seen your "completed" car yet.



Looks like we will definitely have a dozen plus cars. driving.gif



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Posted by: Thoward914 Apr 20 2006, 05:11 PM

Okay Clay, it's getting to the point I need more details.
What time are we meeting.
Where are we meeting.
What can I bring to help.

Travis

Posted by: Joseph Mills Apr 20 2006, 07:41 PM

If the current weather pattern continues, we are going to have great weather for Talimena!

On Friday looks like we may have some rain in the morning, but not in the afternoon for traveling. We even get the little Sun icon for saturday with a small chance for some showers on sunday.

Most of the guys I know driving from Tulsa plan on arriving saturday morning.

I should arrive in Talihina on friday around 5:00ish.



Just to re-cap for the cook-out on saturday, last year everyone chipped in and we just bought all the grocery supplies we needed for dinner. So all you really need to bring are your favorite beverages.

Don't forget a folding camp chair.

Posted by: Joseph Mills Apr 20 2006, 07:47 PM

Forgot to mention mad.gif

as I re-call Curt, Clay & thewheel69 (don't know your name yet), are bringing grills. Three grills should do it.

I will be bringing a folding/roll-up camp table to put food stuff on. However, we could sure use another if anyone has one.

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Posted by: thewheel69 Apr 20 2006, 09:09 PM

Hey Ho!

thewheel69 is.... unsure.gif

John Foster in the Ravenna Green 1.8...

I forgot to mention that I promised the wife a day/night in Hot Springs on Saturday so, as I was unsure of the cook out plans (I thought Friday..) I'm wondering if it make sense to bring my grill if I'm not there on Saturday night??? headbang.gif

Sorry guys, its my first time out in a while.

So, just let me know how I can help.

Posted by: Joseph Mills Apr 20 2006, 09:22 PM

QUOTE(thewheel69 @ Apr 20 2006, 10:09 PM) *

I forgot to mention that I promised the wife a day/night in Hot Springs on Saturday so, as I was unsure of the cook out plans (I thought Friday..) I'm wondering if it make sense to bring my grill if I'm not there on Saturday night??? headbang.gif

Sorry guys, its my first time out in a while.

So, just let me know how I can help.



John- No problem about the grill.

So are you planning on doing the drive out and back with the group and then do the drive out again to go to Hot Springs? Or are you going to just drive out with us to Mena and then go on to Hot Springs?

Sorry you're gonna miss the post-drive bench racing. beer3.gif

Does anyone else have a small grill they could bring? If not we can make do with just two of them.

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Posted by: thewheel69 Apr 20 2006, 09:27 PM

Well, I originally thought I would just head out on the far end of the 1st leg... I didnt know what the whole weekend drill was... but, who knows what will happen with the road worthiness of "Wasabi" (aint that cute... you'll see why I named her that when I show up with my wife)

So... maybe you guys can do some good sweet talking to keep us in the mix... Next time I might have to meet her in Hot Springs! beer.gif

Posted by: dakotaewing Apr 20 2006, 10:32 PM

Joseph -
I will bring the folding table that we used at the MUSR in OK....
It fits just fine in the back of the Toyota, and my better half will be with me as well - See you tomorrow night (late) -

Thom

Posted by: ClayPerrine Apr 21 2006, 06:12 AM

Sorry for the late reply.

Meet at Wes' shop in plano.


Take 75 north from 635.

Exit Plano Parkway.

Turn right on Plano Parkway.


Turn left on Plano Road.

Get in the right lane. Turn into the Office Furniture store parking lot.

Go to the far side of the building and turn right.

Look for the 914s and Wes' Big Red Ford truck.


If you get lost, call me...817-360-4067.

Posted by: jr91472 Apr 21 2006, 06:24 AM

Drive safe everyone! Take lots of photo's! bye1.gif

ok, back to my hole sawzall-smiley.gif welder.gif smash.gif

Posted by: Joseph Mills Apr 21 2006, 06:50 AM

Thom - thanks for bringing the table. We'll keep the lantern lit for you this evening.



Clay - I didn't see a meeting time in your last post.



For OK, MO & MS peoples biggrin.gif

My mobil is 405-615-9000 if you have trouble and we need to come and fetch you. ohmy.gif

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Posted by: ClayPerrine Apr 21 2006, 08:56 AM

Sorry... caravan leaves at 3pm from Wes' shop.


Posted by: Joseph Mills Apr 21 2006, 01:06 PM

I have left the building... biggrin.gif


driving.gif driving.gif beer3.gif jsharp.gif beer3.gif beer3.gif yellowsleep[1].gif driving.gif driving.gif givemebeer.gif beer3.gif chowtime.gif beerchug.gif flipa.gif yawn.gif yellowsleep[1].gif chowtime.gif driving.gif driving.gif driving.gif


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Posted by: SirAndy Apr 23 2006, 04:41 PM

where are the pics? confused24.gif

thisthreadisworthlesswithoutpics.gif


smile.gif Andy

Posted by: ClayPerrine Apr 23 2006, 08:29 PM

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Apr 23 2006, 05:41 PM) *

where are the pics? confused24.gif

thisthreadisworthlesswithoutpics.gif


smile.gif Andy



I was too busy on Sat driving to take many pictures....


Brian took most of the pictures from my camera with the car in motion.



Travis and Robin Howard, Betty and I left at 8 PM on Sat so we could drive home to go to the Maverick AX today. We got in at Midnight and got back up at 5:30 am to go to Mineral Wells.

We are beat, but we had fun!!!!!




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Posted by: thewheel69 Apr 23 2006, 08:31 PM

Attached ImageAttached ImageAttached Image clap56.gif THANKS TO EVERYONE FOR A FANTASTIC TRIP!!! clap56.gif

Especially Clay for fine tuning my car so I could make the trip! pray.gif

I took a bazillion pictures but here are just a few as I have to pack for work tomorrow...

Again, thanks to everyone and you all ROCK!!! aktion035.gif

John Foster


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Posted by: dennisc Apr 24 2006, 03:22 PM

Great time--great weather, great drive, great scenery, great people, good eats and cold beer!


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Posted by: dennisc Apr 24 2006, 03:25 PM

Two more


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Posted by: SirAndy Apr 24 2006, 07:42 PM

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Two more

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i can "almost" smell the barbecue ...
jsharp.gif Andy

Posted by: cooltimes Apr 24 2006, 07:53 PM

Lots of fun seen there in all those photos. Thanks for sharing.
BTW. In the last photo. you can almost hear what Clay is thinking.
"Whatta you mean, it ain't done enough yet! I am starving so where's the buns?"
chowtime.gif drunk.gif jsharp.gif

Posted by: tommy914 Apr 24 2006, 10:21 PM

This was a great event. Thanks Joseph for getting it all together.

Here are some of my pics.

Dennis Carter's red 914/6. This appears to be the only picture I have of it.
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Clay and his 914/6
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Richard and Riva Fisher and their V8
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Mike and Julie Floyd 914/6
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Posted by: tommy914 Apr 24 2006, 10:27 PM

Joseph Mills 914/4
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??? (need help with these names)
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Heather Ewing and Betty Perrine next to Betty's 914/4
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Travis Howard's 914/4 with Betty and Robin Howard
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Posted by: tommy914 Apr 24 2006, 10:33 PM

No one claimed this one
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Curt Curtis ? wooden bumper 914/4
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a few at the hotel
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Posted by: tommy914 Apr 24 2006, 10:37 PM

The cookout!
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great views on the drive
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Restored gas station in Mena AR. Gas is 19 cents a gallon.
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