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Posted by: bug man nrg Mar 6 2006, 07:55 PM

where is type 4 parts? blink.gif
where is there web site? huh.gif

Posted by: Aaron Cox Mar 6 2006, 07:56 PM

QUOTE (bug man nrg @ Mar 6 2006, 06:55 PM)
where is type 4 parts? blink.gif
where is there web site? huh.gif

you were in bed with satan.... we tried to tell you that....

now you didnt even get kissed before getting fucked? laugh.gif

Posted by: SirAndy Mar 6 2006, 08:03 PM

QUOTE (bug man nrg @ Mar 6 2006, 05:55 PM)
where is type 4 parts? blink.gif
where is there web site? huh.gif

wasn't that strombergs website? if so, be happy it's gone, that guys was/is a turd ...
stromberg.gif



if, on the other hand, you're talking about jake raby's type4 store,
it's right here:
http://www.aircooledtechnology.com/store/

cool_shades.gif Andy

Posted by: bug man nrg Mar 6 2006, 08:20 PM

QUOTE (Aaron Cox @ Mar 6 2006, 05:56 PM)
QUOTE (bug man nrg @ Mar 6 2006, 06:55 PM)
where is type 4 parts? blink.gif
where is there web site? huh.gif

you were in bed with satan.... we tried to tell you that....

now you didnt even get kissed before getting fucked? laugh.gif

we was not in bed with any one wink.gif we gave any one that needed what we had to offer a chance to use the ecu and throttle bodys that we have .We even try to get hold of jake but he did not call back
we can not say any thing bad about type4 parts he did not f-ck us in any way

Posted by: Bleyseng Mar 6 2006, 09:03 PM

Sorry, you are the only guys SteveStromberg didn't get a chance to fuckover.

email or pm Jake as he doesn't answer the phone these days, too swamped I hear.

Posted by: Jake Raby Mar 6 2006, 09:20 PM

The count is up to 47 different individuals that have contacted me with "deals gone bad" from our Buddy Type 4 parts.. The grand finale is the guy who sent him 7600 bucks!

These days I'm simply not available by telephone... I'm in the middle of assembling the Mighty Spyder, re designing my website for the huge influx we wil have from the Hot VWs article series and making a full color catalog- thats on top of keeping normal engines going through their paces here..

I do return calls between 6-7 PM EST daily. My dad now answers all the phone lines here and takes messages- I do return them.

If you want me, send an email through the appropraie channels and I will reply.

Posted by: bug man nrg Mar 7 2006, 05:47 AM

Jake i have sent you emails and pm and you came back one time then you said you would and you did not do so .
Like i said before Steve did not fuck me or emerald performance i am sorry i can not say a bad thing about this man
you can pm me or have i got to sit around hoping you might do so .We will work with any one that will take time to call or email
www.emeraldperformance.com

Posted by: bd1308 Mar 7 2006, 06:06 AM

It was proven that Steve Stromberg built crappy "rebuilt" engines based on used parts, etc...

one of the members here actually bought a engine rebuilt by Steve Stromberg and it was bad.

I'm sure he's still around somewhere, but there is a reason he's not here, posting and such, it's because he's not a good little leprechaun, he's always trying to screw people over.

give him a call though, i'm sure that if he doesn't answer the phone, his mom will....

b

Posted by: Jake Raby Mar 7 2006, 08:17 AM

bug man nrg,

Perhaps I simply can't fathom the idea of having anything to do with anyone that was ever associated with the guy that stole so much from me, ripped other people off and thinks the guy is still a saint??

Think about it...

Anyone and anything associated with this person is questionable to me, for damn good reason.

Posted by: dstar Mar 7 2006, 08:18 AM

You might try contacting him here:

http://www.zyworld.com/Sexanna60/


wacko.gif

Don

Posted by: dstar Mar 7 2006, 08:21 AM

QUOTE (Jake Raby @ Mar 7 2006, 06:17 AM)
bug man nrg,

Perhaps I simply can't fathom the idea of having anything to do with anyone that was ever associated with the guy that stole so much from me, ripped other people off and thinks the guy is still a saint??

Think about it...

Anyone and anything associated with this person is questionable to me, for damn good reason.

Umm, www.emeraldperformance.com IS STEVE STROMBERG!

Don

Posted by: Headrage Mar 7 2006, 08:47 AM

QUOTE (dstar @ Mar 7 2006, 06:21 AM)
Umm, www.emeraldperformance.com IS STEVE STROMBERG!

Don

Only if he moved to Florida to be closer to Jake. laugh.gif

Posted by: dstar Mar 7 2006, 08:51 AM

I guess they are both at the same level of illiteracy.......
biggrin.gif

Don

Posted by: Jake Raby Mar 7 2006, 09:32 AM

Excellent research dstar...

Posted by: bd1308 Mar 7 2006, 09:52 AM

Unless stromberg changed his name or had a buddy set it up, it aint him

using 'whois'

oh and just in case anyone thinks I hacked somewhere or whatnot, this *IS* public information.

Registrant:
Emerald Performance
8351 NW 45th Court
Lauderhill, Florida 33351
United States

Registered through: GoDaddy.com
Domain Name: EMERALDPERFORMANCE.COM
Created on: 10-Sep-05
Expires on: 11-Sep-07
Last Updated on: 12-Sep-05

Administrative Contact:
Mack, Freston d.jackson-mack@att.net
Emerald Performance
United States
Fax --

Posted by: Jake Raby Mar 7 2006, 10:00 AM

dstar was just foolin around... He does that. ALL THE TIME!

Posted by: grantsfo Mar 7 2006, 10:57 AM

Try www.privateeye.com biggrin.gif

Posted by: JB 914 Mar 7 2006, 11:12 AM

QUOTE (bug man nrg @ Mar 6 2006, 06:55 PM)
where is type 4 parts? blink.gif
where is there web site? huh.gif

you need type4parts? Heh, i got a bunch in my garage. I'll even include a certificate of authenticity.

Posted by: SLITS Mar 7 2006, 01:17 PM

Domain Name.......... type4parts.com
Creation Date........ 2003-03-28
Registration Date.... 2003-03-28
Expiry Date.......... 2006-03-28
Organisation Name.... NA
Organisation Address. 2609 Rredlands Dr
Organisation Address.
Organisation Address. Costa Mesa
Organisation Address. 92627
Organisation Address. CA
Organisation Address. UNITED STATES

Admin Name........... Steve Stromberg
Admin Address........ 2609 Rredlands Dr
Admin Address........
Admin Address........ Costa Mesa
Admin Address........ 92627
Admin Address........ CA
Admin Address........ UNITED STATES
Admin Email.......... 911@surf.co.nz
Admin Phone.......... (949)6507366
Admin Fax............

Tech Name............ Verio Hostmaster
Tech Address......... 5050 Blue Lake Dr.
Tech Address.........
Tech Address......... Boca Raton
Tech Address......... 33431
Tech Address......... FL
Tech Address......... UNITED STATES
Tech Email........... hostmaster@VERIO-HOSTING.COM
Tech Phone........... 888-663-6648
Tech Fax.............
Name Server.......... ns.esolved.com
Name Server.......... ns2.esolved.com


Posted by: dstar Mar 7 2006, 01:18 PM

Yes, this guy really has a business there, a Jenvy outlet in the States.

BUT, just checkout what happens when you search for the address
on Yahoo:

8351 NW Court Lauderhill, Florida

Dealer for Emerald engine management systems
... Emerald Performance. 8351 NW 45th court. Lauderhill, Florida 33351 ...www.emeraldperformance.com/contact.htm - 4k - Cached - More from this site - Save

World wide sources for Jenvey products
... Emerald Performance. 8351 NW 45th Court, Lauderhill, Florida 33351 Tel: + 954 578 0465 ...www.jenvey.co.uk/Specials/Worldout.htm - 8k - Cached - More from this site - Save

Facility Directory - Florida Department of Corrections
Mailing addresses and phone numbers for all Department of Corrections facilities. Document can be printed. ... Box 158. 3269 NW 105th Street. Lowell, Florida 32663-0158 ... 06G - PINELLAS CO. COURT UNIT. 14250 49th Street North, Rm ... 4th Floor. Lauderhill, Florida 33313-5879. (954) 497-4121 ...www.dc.state.fl.us/orginfo/facilitydir.html - 82k - Cached - More from this site - Save

http://www.epa.gov/Region4/r4data/tris/trifac_fl.txt
... PERMA-FIX OF FLORIDA INC","1940 NW 67TH PL",GAINESVILLE ... 40 AVE.",LAUDERHILL,BROWARD,FL,33313, 26.149100, 80.225600 ... INC","1515 SW 13TH COURT",POMPANO BEACH,BROWARD,FL,33069 ...www.epa.gov/Region4/r4data/tris/trifac_fl.txt - 174k - Cached - More from this site - Save

Florida DOC Probation and Parole Offices - Prison Talk Online
... 1632 US Hwy 41 NW. Jasper, Florida 32052-1558 ... 12295 Southwest 133rd Court. Miami, Florida 33186. (305) 252-4400 ... 4th Floor. Lauderhill, Florida 33313. (954) 497-4121 SC ...www.prisontalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=59343 - 129k - Cached - More from this site - Save

Prison Talk Online - Florida DOC Probation and Parole Offices
... 1632 US Hwy 41 NW. Jasper, Florida 32052-1558 ... 12295 Southwest 133rd Court. Miami, Florida 33186. (305) 252-4400 ... 4th Floor. Lauderhill, Florida 33313. (954) 497-4121 SC ...www.prisontalk.com/forums/printthread.php?t=59343 - More from this site - Save


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IS he running a parts store out of PRISON?
confused24.gif

BUWAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHA!

HIS typing and communications skills seem to back that up..........

Don



Posted by: Mark Henry Mar 7 2006, 02:05 PM

ohmy.gif holy shit!.

Say it ain't so bug man blink.gif

Lucy....you have some 'splaning to doooo!!!!

Posted by: Jake Raby Mar 7 2006, 02:10 PM

Nuttin gets past dstar...

Don't EVER piss him off!

This biy has some serious connections!

Posted by: dstar Mar 7 2006, 02:31 PM

BUWAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHA! It ain't so Jake!
laugh.gif

I guess you could tell by talking to him that you dint want to
do business with him........

cool.gif

Don

Posted by: type11969 Mar 7 2006, 02:35 PM

dstar, you actually in Princeton, or is that a BS addy? I'm just around the corner from ya if you are . . .

Posted by: dstar Mar 7 2006, 02:43 PM

Nah! I live in SC now. biggrin.gif
I just graduated from Princeton in 78.

Don

Posted by: type11969 Mar 7 2006, 03:00 PM

Oh, too bad, I work about 5 miles from Princeton. Would have been good to have another VW head in the area . . .

-Chris

Posted by: Twystd1 Mar 7 2006, 04:50 PM

I love this. Now we have Dstar from the STF forums... Welcome. And stick around.

We could use your brains and down right nuttyness. you will fit right in.

As far as emerald performance. I am kinda wondering about that guy.

I have seen him on differant forums for about a year. he seems relatively knowledgable and a decent guy.

Are we sure he is a bad guy? Cause I hate convicting a guy unless we are REALLY clear on who and what this guy is.

Has anyone been burned? Is his stuff crap?

My sniffer is really wondering about this. Or is my sniffer wrong and the guy is bad news.????

Looks like I have to do some homework.

We have some guys here on this forum that were wrongly accused of shit they were inoccent of.

The truth always comes out.

I don't know this guy are need his services. cept I am sniffing something ain't right.

Problem is he had some association with SS. That is a problem for me. time for blackops.

Laterzzz...

Clayton

Posted by: Eric_Shea Mar 7 2006, 05:22 PM

I wonder about anyone who builds a bug that's that UGLY.

Posted by: bug man nrg Mar 7 2006, 08:12 PM

Ok guys i have not got any thing to hide you post all my info out there for all to see and i am still here if you are in florda and you need to see the shop i work from just come down to speed and truck on sunrise this is where i an all day if you find the need to call the number is 954 760 9922
I am here for all to see .As for my car this is what i like ugly!! some might think so but at 420hp it can aford to be UGLY!!!
Like i said before steve did not do any thing BAB in my book .What he did to you guy i do not know
Yes i am a Jenvey outlet here in the USA also Emerald .I am sorry that you all have bad feelings for steve but i am not him .My name is Freston Mack and all you need to know about me is on this post
THANK YOU for putting me out there i do not know what i did to get this from you guys BUT I AN NOT RUNNING FROM YOU I AM HERE TO STAY it is sad when you do things like this but this just shows me what i am going to face down the road

Posted by: Mark Henry Mar 7 2006, 10:35 PM

Sorry bug man BUT people here HAVE been ripped off by Steve...he even has his own "smilie" and this is it: stromberg.gif

You need to distance yourself from stromberg.gif right away. Steve or stromberg.gif has been banned from the samba, this site and about every site around.

I'm glad you have posted your info and I hope someone can go check you out, so that you can clear your rep.
NOT that you had a rep, BUT stromberg.gif sure as hell did and you stepped in some of that stromberg.gif.

What do you say 914 guys...Someone check him out and lets give the lad a fresh chance.

Posted by: bug man nrg Mar 8 2006, 06:01 AM

If anyone needs to find out how i run emerald performance just call me or call Jenvey /tps/port tuning /Emerald in the UK/i do not have any thing to hide all i did was made things cheaper for the air cooled market like throttle bodys and efi .If you check out what is going on in the market place with the pricing on itb's you will see that the price has dropped due to what i am doing ie Honda itb'swas $2200 back in may 2005 now they are down to $1699 for a set up look at the price or ecu's and bodys and tell if the price has not going up as fast it has come down
sad.gif ohmy.gif i am not a stromberg.gif

Posted by: rhodyguy Mar 8 2006, 08:52 AM

hi bug man, (what's your real name, btw?). ss can be an elusive quarry to track down. you mught consider yourself fortunate if you never hear from him again. you must have seen the numerous neg feedback postings ss has at thesamba. letting us deal directly with you and your company, rather than having to go through ss, should result in greater sales volume.

kevin(bigK@thesamba)

Posted by: Eric_Shea Mar 8 2006, 09:25 AM

Relax Bugger... we're just your welcoming party. Consider that your 'hazing'. biggrin.gif

I love bugs... just not yours. laugh.gif

It could have 1,000hp and still be butt-ugly. Hmmmmm idea.gif 1,000hp might not be a bad idea. One top speed run and all that fiberglass shit would blow right off! lol3.gif

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Posted by: dstar Mar 8 2006, 09:43 AM

BUWAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA!

Man, that's a lot of FIBERGLASS! icon8.gif

Looks like a 70s Mulholland bug ran into a
"FURIOUS cause they can't go FAST", Rice-Er Roni!
biggrin.gif

Are you a Latino? I dint see any dangling lace around the headliner,
so I had to ask......

BTW, Jake gets that HP and torque outta a normally aspirated 2270......
driving-girl.gif

Don

Posted by: Eric_Shea Mar 8 2006, 09:53 AM

Now, now Don... play nice!. I've had second thoughts. It's starting to grow on me (like a cancerous tumor!)


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Posted by: Flat VW Mar 8 2006, 09:55 AM

nice wing


John wacko.gif

P.S. "It is tme to un-pimp zee auto!"

Posted by: Mark Henry Mar 8 2006, 10:00 AM

Yup I say the hazing should be over.

Let this guy prove himself and let his past dealings with SS go.

As far as the bug goes...it's not my cup of tea, but it is his car and he's put a lot of work into it, so it's what turns HIS crank...not yours or ours.

Posted by: skline Mar 8 2006, 10:00 AM

Is that right hand drive? It doesnt look so bad, many people think the 914 is ugly. It's all in ones personal tastes

Posted by: Eric_Shea Mar 8 2006, 10:02 AM

QUOTE
it is his car and he's put a lot of work into it, so it's what turns HIS crank...not yours or ours.


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Again... welcome.png

Posted by: Flat VW Mar 8 2006, 10:05 AM

QUOTE (Flat VW @ Mar 8 2006, 08:55 AM)
nice wing


John wacko.gif

P.S. "It is tme to un-pimp zee auto!"



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WTF.gif


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Posted by: bug man nrg Mar 8 2006, 09:45 PM

I AM STILL HERE YOU KNOW THE NUMBER ph34r.gif

Posted by: Eric_Shea Mar 8 2006, 10:20 PM

And...

1. The CAPS lock is broken on your keyboard?
2. You want us all to call you?
3. You think this is a fiberglass 10-step program and you want us to talk you off the ledge?
4. You're waiting for Jake to call you... the Jake who is in the hospital with his Dad right now?

Posted by: rhodyguy Mar 9 2006, 08:56 AM

here's the deal. ss came out with some pretty wild claims regarding horse power and a fi system that he was going to be offering. making what i presume is your system, appear as his. when a price was pinned down it was high. no further info and the system just fell off the map. then ss's rep and actions drove him into a hole, and your system followed him down the passage. he can't sell anything unless it is to an uninformed/unwary buyer. if you're comfortable with steve, that's your business, and i can live with that. just as i can live without your fi setup as long as i think that ss is still associated with your co. the idea that ss would profit as much as $.01 on a purchase of your system, means i will never have one. too bad.

edit: re the caps thing. i'm sure the pooper lurks. he may have contacted bugman and bugman is just telling him outfront. i'm giving bm the benefit of the doubt.

k

Posted by: bug man nrg Mar 10 2006, 06:35 PM

Ok here it is Steve sold a set up to a 914 guy that had a problem starting his car due to not reading the manual the set up came with sad.gif .i got the car running over the phone and set him up with some air cooled map to play with by email.I called Steve to find out what was going on and i did not here back from him .That is why i did the post where is type4 parts i did not post to be pulled in to the dirt and back al i did was post on the web site and got this madnes blink.gif tell me what i did apart from letting Steve sell my set up
www.emeraldperformance.com

Posted by: Bleyseng Mar 10 2006, 06:50 PM

Hey whatever!

I checked out your site and stuff looks cool. Mueller should be all over those throttle bodies! ohmy.gif

Posted by: SirAndy Mar 10 2006, 06:57 PM

QUOTE (bug man nrg @ Mar 10 2006, 04:35 PM)
tell me what i did apart from letting Steve sell my set up

absolutely nothing ...

but you've gotta understand, steve has fucked over a few guys here in a really, really bad way.
we don't take that lightly.

we have kicked him to the curb and made his life miserable.

and we would do it again if we had to ...
alfred.gif Andy

Posted by: bug man nrg Mar 10 2006, 09:12 PM

Ok i still do not see why all my info was put out there huh.gif like i was the one that fucked any one over this is not what i do .I work hard to do what i do so i do not end up with a bad name if and when i fuck up then i will pay the price for it dry.gif

Posted by: Eric_Shea Mar 10 2006, 11:00 PM

Mack...

If'n I was you, (which I aint) I'd delete this thread and start over.

Steve's not here. (in my best Cheech and Chong 'Dave's not here' voice) smoke.gif

You seem like a nice guy. Some of it is just people fuch'n with ya. I was serious about the hazing...

Drop it and welcome.png

Posted by: r_towle Mar 10 2006, 11:34 PM

Guys, I think that what he is selling is a great alternative to the current FI we have.

DStar, please read your entire "fact finding search"...the word court is on there..or course other things will come up...

I look at that response from DStar and say WTF, shame on you...(I edited this line)

Bugman, show us your stuff, tell us how we can get great deals on your FI setup...tell us how easy it is to install on a type 4...

What will I gain in HP???

Rich

Posted by: Twystd1 Mar 10 2006, 11:56 PM

Hi guys,

I just spent an hour talking to Bug Man. (Mack)

I PMed him yesterday and asked him to call me if he wanted to.

Tonight he did.

We spoke primarily on three subject matters.

1: Stromberg
2: His EFI system
3: Both of our backrounds in cars and such.

On number 1. He told me the story about how Stromberg "came to him" to set up a type 4 package. Then Stromberg fell of the planet. Thats all he knows.
OOOPs: EDIT. Apparently Stromberg sold at least one of the Emerald sytems to someone.

On number 2: I already had done my homework on the Emerald EFI system for about a year. There is much to read about the system on the net if you choose to look yourself.
And he is a Jenvey dealer for you Throttle body guys.

On number 3: This fella is a Englishman.
He has been around cars for most of his life.
We spoke about EFI for a long time and his experience with not only the Emerald system but others too.
He knows the guys at State Side Tuning in the UK. And they have a pretty dam good pedigree themselves.


Bottom line for me is that he is "Who He Says He is".
He isn't a Stromberg agent or anything else. Just a guy that was trying to bring this system to the aircooled world. And thats all.

I believe he is straight up. And he spoke ZERO bullshit.

And I like him... Neat guy.

So Fellas. Wrong, right or indifferant. Thats my read on Mr.Bug Man.

Regards,
Clayton

Posted by: SGB Mar 11 2006, 12:18 AM

sounds like he got stromberg.gif 'd too.

Posted by: azbill Mar 11 2006, 12:36 AM

I'm the one that stromberg.gif sold the Emerald system too. Mack stepped into the middle of the F***ed transaction. I finally got the system. That was last August, since then I have had Ron Grider tear down the so called engine I got from you know who. I have replaced or reworked EVERY part S**tHead installed. I have stopped counting the money I have spent to put this engine right. If it wasn't for Ron, Jake and Mack I would have been screwed blued and tattoed.

I wish some of you guys would know and check your facts before you start putting BS. stromberg.gif deserves everything said about him and some more as far as I am concerned.

Bill Shaffer

Posted by: Dr Evil Mar 11 2006, 01:11 AM

ah man, Bill sad.gif I was hoping that ss was doing yours right being that he was taking pictures and all. That sucks.

Hey bug man, way to roll with the punches smilie_pokal.gif welcome.png

Posted by: Twystd1 Mar 11 2006, 01:57 AM

Hi Bill,

So how did your engine combo come out?

What do you think about Macks customer service?

And what do you think of the Emerald system as a whole?

And if I can help you put stromberg.gif in jail. Let me know.

Regards,
Twystd1

Posted by: SirAndy Mar 11 2006, 06:09 AM

QUOTE (bug man nrg @ Mar 10 2006, 07:12 PM)
Ok i still do not see why all my info was put out there

ahem ... just FYI ... this is all PUBLIC info!

anybody with a internet connection can look that up with 3 mouseclicks ...

cool_shades.gif Andy

Posted by: bd1308 Mar 11 2006, 06:59 AM

well, four...since I had to connect to my linux box. I did even post that it was public info....all I was trying to do is verify that the site wasnt just another SS coverup, since he's done that too.

For awhile, a few of us ran stromberg checks, to make sure people knew where he was...kinda like the Convicted Sex offender list.

anywho, You definately are *NOT* stromberg, and your FI system looks amazing. I'm still a bit partial to MS, only due to me being a computer geek.


anyway, Welcome to the club, and please tell us what's included in your kit.

b

Posted by: rhodyguy Mar 11 2006, 07:36 AM

there you go. the pooper is out of the picture, and we can deal directly with emerald. post about your product(s) in the "Resources, Parts, Products" forum.

k

Posted by: azbill Mar 11 2006, 10:15 AM

Twystd1

The engine is in the final stages of reassembly. I replaced the crank the one I got looked worn. Connecting rods were sloppy on the crank I sent them out to be redone including a complete balance job. All the bearrings were replaced because the provided bearrings were of questionable quality. Heads replaced with Jakes speical brew. The heads ss have 48mm intake & 36 or 38 exhaust values. I didn't order a racing engine I want a hot street engine. The heads will be for sale details will be in the listing. Cylinders were not honed - all screwed up, had a machine shop hone them. Sent out the cmplete crank assembly for balancing. Replaced the cam of an unknown profile with a Jake cam. I used the ceramic lifters. The valve assembly was questionable. Value assembly was replaced with Jakes swivel foot system. Cylinder shims were uneven and deck heights varied - new shims. The supplied case was filithy. I decieded to used my orginal case. I have cleaned the un-numbered case Had it checked and it is good.

The Emerald system looks good. I'll post about the system when it up and running. I need to get the engine completed, relocated the fuel pump, install the 911 master cylinder, new interior, gaged cluster, and dyno setup the emerald system. When I have all that done there will be a complete report (good or bad) for all to read.

Bill Shaffer

Posted by: Bleyseng Mar 11 2006, 10:28 AM

Bill, put some pics of your progress in your blog so we can watch your progress...thanks

Posted by: rhodyguy Mar 11 2006, 10:31 AM

wow. same heads as the ones i won't use. i had mine cleaned/freshened up before i got the bad news. cheap 96mm cyls. i'll never recoup my costs. pm sent, again.

k

Posted by: bug man nrg Mar 11 2006, 08:11 PM

cool.gif Now we have all the madnes out the way what can emerald performance do to help the air cooled market work?
what you need? cool.gif
where do we need to be with the pricing? biggrin.gif
ie:throttle bodys/efi/ unsure.gif

Posted by: Jake Raby Mar 11 2006, 08:32 PM

OK....
Lets talk serious.

Last year I tested 5 different EFI arrangements. I still have that engine and still have the data. The engine hasn't been touched since last April- I even have weather plots from each dyno run.

If your serious send me up a system and I'll give you data.

I'm willing to give you a chance to prove yourself and the system as well. I'll buy or borrow the system from you either way.

You won't find another more comprehensive test outline than what I put the engine through during the EFI plots. I don't test only for power but also for ease of tuning and all the other things that would be important to a customer of mine thats buying an engine that gets my name on it.

So... If you want to do this let me know and I'm all game. I can have data in 3 weeks both in the dyno and from my vehicle equipped with a 32 channel data logger...

I KNOW I came off a bit too aggressive initially in this post, but it was simply because the name stromberg.gif popped up and so far everyone that had doings with him has been just as much of a loser as he was.

You do your part and I'll do mine and post the results including tests with the arrangemnt installed in the test car equipped with carbs and the EFI set up back to back, and yes I can log TQ and HP and longitudinal G forces in the car as well as temps from all 4 cylinders and it's all GPS based for accuracy.

Let me know if your game.

Posted by: Aaron Cox Mar 11 2006, 08:45 PM

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Posted by: Toast Mar 11 2006, 09:02 PM

QUOTE (bd1308 @ Mar 7 2006, 04:06 AM)
It was proven that Steve Stromberg built crappy "rebuilt" engines based on used parts, etc...

one of the members here actually bought a engine rebuilt by Steve Stromberg and it was bad.

give him a call though, i'm sure that if he doesn't answer the phone, his mom will....


I know of and have personally seen two, make that 2 of stromberg.gif engines. Both of the regretful owners have already posted on this thread.
They would have looked better if you would have thrown a grenade in them. ar15.gif

..and actually that is his wife that answers the phone. she is old enough to be his mom. wink.gif

Posted by: bd1308 Mar 11 2006, 09:06 PM

I heard something about his mom and him living there, but hmm....

grenade indeed.

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Posted by: Toast Mar 11 2006, 09:38 PM

OMG!! I'm so sorry I didn't say this first, but...........


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Posted by: bug man nrg Mar 11 2006, 09:49 PM

Ok Jake i will give you a unit a cost so you will have some thing to work with i will not make a peny on this deal i just need you to be upright on your findings. I take it you still have jenvey bodys at your shop .If you have any problems with the set up call me this is what i am here for to stand behind what i sell smile.gif let me know when you have the time to do this

Posted by: Jake Raby Mar 11 2006, 10:00 PM

Sounds good and fair to us both.

I'll be up front with the data- there is no way to lie!

Posted by: gregrobbins Mar 11 2006, 10:08 PM

QUOTE (bug man nrg @ Mar 11 2006, 08:49 PM)
Ok Jake i will give you a unit a cost so you will have some thing to work .... i just need you to be upright on your findings.

Don't worry about Jake. Straight arrow all the way. His test will be a thorough one and he will report the facts. Jake has one objective, to make the best Type IVs possible. If there is something new and better, he will add it to his bag of tricks.

We all benefit from his testing and integrity.

Posted by: Jake Raby Mar 11 2006, 11:26 PM

Thanks Greg!

He is correct.. If any system, including Emerald is better than what I'm using now I'll switch no problem..

The other 5 systems I tested were all more expensive than the SDS system, made less than 5% more power and took 2-3 times as long to tune.

75% of my customers don't own a tool box, so simplicity is key, ease of tuning is a must and actually weighs heavier on my list than gross power- simply because the power can't be generated if the system is difficult to tune..

Posted by: bug man nrg Mar 12 2006, 11:50 AM

if any one need to know how the Emerald works there is a manual and a demo on the web site under down loads rolleyes.gif
www.emeraldperformance.com
also at www.emeraldm3d.com
there will be new stuff on the site soon as we find time to do it thumb3d.gif

Posted by: gregrobbins Mar 12 2006, 12:08 PM

Here is a hot link

http://www.emeraldperformance.com

Posted by: bug man nrg Mar 14 2006, 09:56 PM

Thank for the link did you play with the demo yet:D

Posted by: Jake Raby Mar 15 2006, 09:55 AM

OK,
I called and had a nice chat with Mac concerning his products, Stromberg and etc...

He has agreed to send me a unit for testing and I have agreed to post the results of this system in comparison to others, on the same test engine.

If the tests go well, the system is easy to interface with for the user things may progress.
we'll see...

Posted by: Paul Illick Mar 15 2006, 10:20 AM

As info the Emerald products are widely sold and well respected in the U.K. They're used a lot especially on re-engines of old Lotus cars, ignition-only for crank-fire Zetecs going into old MG's and such. Has a good reputation in the Lotus clone/kit car community.

Posted by: bug man nrg Mar 15 2006, 06:21 PM

some one has done there home work .I would like to see the set up on more air cooled engine's .only time will tell .i had a chat with Jake today and he will post his findings to you all when he gets a unit in his hands biggrin.gif

Posted by: Jake Raby Mar 15 2006, 06:43 PM

Mac, did you get my email???

Posted by: SGB Mar 15 2006, 08:52 PM

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Posted by: bug man nrg Mar 15 2006, 09:20 PM

yes Jake i got your email and i called with the info you need for the unit

Posted by: bug man nrg Mar 15 2006, 09:24 PM

yes i did get your email and i called with the info on the unit that we talked about today beerchug.gif
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Posted by: wannateener Mar 15 2006, 09:56 PM

This can only be good for the Type4 community.
I have had some exposure to the unit in question in an application far more demanding than the 914.
Quality cust. service.
Willingnest to stretch to provide the product that suits the end user.
Nuff said.

JT

Posted by: wannateener Mar 15 2006, 09:57 PM

Opps,
Sorry,
Me posting as my kid again smoke.gif
JT
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Posted by: bug man nrg Mar 19 2006, 07:29 AM

jake i did get your email and i called you back i will send you a pm biggrin.gif

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