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914World.com _ 914World Garage _ Biting the bullet - bringing on the 5 lug
Posted by: grantsfo Mar 13 2006, 11:57 AM
Biting the bullet to go five lug. Headed down to the shop to figure out wheel spacing/size today. I will be using 3 piece BBS wheels. Going to go with racing slicks too.
Starting my GT conversion today fenders, rocker panels, the works. I'm planning to go all Olympic Blue paint with smooth top. While Olympic Blue wasnt the same color as the Porsche Gulf cars I'm thinking of doing similar orange stripe.
This should be fun! I'm a goner now!
While this car wont be the fastest or the sexiest conversion it should prove to be a good platform for me to learn from.
Posted by: Mueller Mar 13 2006, 12:03 PM
which BBS wheels? a "modern" style???
Posted by: Joe Ricard Mar 13 2006, 12:03 PM
Cool, and I bet all ya'll thought I was a nut.
So Grant when are you going to come out here and race me?
YPAF
Posted by: jhadler Mar 13 2006, 12:09 PM
Grant,
PM sent...
-Josh2
Posted by: nine14cats Mar 13 2006, 12:19 PM
Geez Grant....you're as bad as I am......WELCOME! 
It's been lonely here by myself 
You're going to need to take most of the camber out of your car once you go slicks, so you're committed as far as that goes. Hoosiers take some negative (small amount) but Goodyear's pretty much go zero or very close. I'm talking bias-ply here. If you're going radial slicks...I'm not familiar with them.
Can't wait to see the car out there!
Bill P.
Posted by: grantsfo Mar 13 2006, 02:39 PM
| QUOTE (nine14cats @ Mar 13 2006, 10:19 AM) |
| Geez Grant....you're as bad as I am......WELCOME! It's been lonely here by myself You're going to need to take most of the camber out of your car once you go slicks, so you're committed as far as that goes. Hoosiers take some negative (small amount) but Goodyear's pretty much go zero or very close. I'm talking bias-ply here. If you're going radial slicks...I'm not familiar with them. Can't wait to see the car out there! Bill P. |
Its a true sickness.
I take a hit and then say whoa did I really do that? 
My car currently sits at about -1.5 degrees of camber front and rear - so where do I need to go with Good Year slicks? I may back off and go DOT route, but I want a snowballs chance to get close to the times of the real fast cars now that I'm penailizing myself with wide rims.
Posted by: brant Mar 13 2006, 02:46 PM
Most (not all) slicks need around 0 camber to be optimum
most DOT tires need around -3degree's to be optimum
(when you gonna get me some Weight numbers?)
brant
Posted by: grantsfo Mar 13 2006, 02:49 PM
| QUOTE (Mueller @ Mar 13 2006, 10:03 AM) |
| which BBS wheels? a "modern" style??? |
Whatever they call that crisscross honeycomb like pattern? Looks fairly modern. Building a set of the widest 16" wheels that will fit under my GT fenders. They will have black centers.
Posted by: Mueller Mar 13 2006, 02:54 PM
| QUOTE (grantsfo @ Mar 13 2006, 01:49 PM) | ||
Whatever they call that crisscross honeycomb like pattern? Looks fairly modern. Building a set of the widest 16" wheels that will fit under my GT fenders. They will have black centers. |
check tire avail. first.....I got rid of my 16x9's due to piss poor DOT selection.....
Posted by: nine14cats Mar 13 2006, 03:29 PM
Grant,
If you are still going to run the car on the street it is my opinion that you will have run Dot-R's. You won't be able to utilize the contact patch of the slicks if you don't go basically to zero camber as Brant points out.
That being said, slicks can sure get sticky at the right temperature and with the right surface. Here I am at Marina in 2003 running Goodyear 23x9x15 cantilever slicks in the R210 compound (no longer available) They only have R250 compound as the softest tire now.
I was able to get the car up on two wheels. I'd say they stick pretty well.... 
Bill P.
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Posted by: grantsfo Mar 13 2006, 03:35 PM
| QUOTE (nine14cats @ Mar 13 2006, 01:29 PM) |
| Grant, If you are still going to run the car on the street it is my opinion that you will have run Dot-R's. You won't be able to utilize the contact patch of the slicks if you don't go basically to zero camber as Brant points out. That being said, slicks can sure get sticky at the right temperature and with the right surface. Here I am at Marina in 2003 running Goodyear 23x9x15 cantilever slicks in the R210 compound (no longer available) They only have R250 compound as the softest tire now. I was able to get the car up on two wheels. I'd say they stick pretty well.... Bill P. |
I was a course worker at Marina when you did that in 2003 - It was my first AX as a driver. I had never seen a 914 get on two wheels before!
Posted by: Joe Ricard Mar 13 2006, 03:54 PM
Thats frigging NUTS.
Pretty cool but NUTS.
Posted by: race914 Mar 13 2006, 04:10 PM
| QUOTE (grantsfo @ Mar 13 2006, 09:57 AM) |
| I'm planning to go all Olympic Blue paint with smooth top. While Olympic Blue wasnt the same color as the Porsche Gulf cars I'm thinking of doing similar orange stripe. |
Excellent choice on your color combination!
Not that I'm biased or anything
Posted by: racerx7 Mar 13 2006, 05:07 PM
Is that 914 on two wheels from just turning? ( not hitting bump, curb, etc...)?
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Posted by: grantsfo Mar 13 2006, 05:19 PM
| QUOTE (racerx7 @ Mar 13 2006, 03:07 PM) |
| Is that 914 on two wheels from just turning? ( not hitting bump, curb, etc...)? I |
Yes! no bump. He flew into the corner sideways and the tires gripped suddenly and threw the car up on two wheels. It was wild!
Posted by: nine14cats Mar 13 2006, 05:36 PM
Yep, no bumps...just smooth sticky concrete! I was running a quick pace into the hairpin, would let up on the brakes before turning to maintain momentum, then toss the car right and tap the brakes to start rotation of the car. The as the tail started to come around I would give her gas and the fat slicks would hook up, and I'd slingshot out of the hairpin maintaining decent speed, which I could use on the corresponding straight that followed.
Problem was that once I carried the most speed of the day into the hairpin, the slicks didn't break loose, they just stuck!...Voila....a little two wheel action.
It was fun watching the whole side of the passenger door sill come up in my peripheral vision. I just moved the steering wheel slightly to the left to drop the car back down and floored it.
Grant,
My vote is go with the slicks....
Once you go slicks, you never go back......
Bill P.
Posted by: grantsfo Mar 13 2006, 06:17 PM
| QUOTE (nine14cats @ Mar 13 2006, 03:36 PM) |
| Grant, My vote is go with the slicks.... Once you go slicks, you never go back...... Bill P. |
Yes I have seen how much better they stick watching you, Andrew, Steve, Andy, etc.
Posted by: jhadler Mar 13 2006, 06:19 PM
You will find that they drive quite differently than DOT tires. The cool thing I always love about slicks is the rediculously large slip angles that they can work at. It may feel like you're sliding, but you're still gripping hard.
Too much fun...
-Josh2
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