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Posted by: Porcharu Mar 14 2006, 02:34 PM
I was working on my tubing bender the other day and needed to swap out the small wire for big wire on my MIG welder and thought it would be much better if I just had 2 MIGs all setup and ready to go. I actually thought it was a reasonable idea for about 2 minutes. 
BTW - I almost immediately thought of Mueller.
Posted by: markb Mar 14 2006, 02:46 PM
At least you stopped yourself in time. The tool bag I carry in the car is so heavy now I can barely lift it. 
Any time I buy something for the box at the shop I think "I could use that in the toolbag" & I buy 2. I really need a 12 step program. 
Posted by: Brian Mifsud Mar 14 2006, 02:54 PM
Norm Abrams is my Pimp... he got me convinced I NEEDED stuff that ends up taking more time to setup than is worth it....
how many times did you use that F*&*!g biscuiting machine in your woodshop for a glued joint? when a simple butt joint did the trick....
DOOOOHHHH
Posted by: GTPatrick Mar 14 2006, 03:03 PM
WEel , if you had 2 MIG setups. You could be working on 2 914's at one time. 
That would be a good excuse not only to get another MIG unit but another 914 too ! ! ! 
Posted by: Porcharu Mar 14 2006, 03:09 PM
I'm surrounded by whores! 
I saved myself from the second MIG but convinced myself that I NEED a gas welder rig - and a plasma cutter.
Gotta go finish the tubing bender and get my tool fix. 
Posted by: GTPatrick Mar 14 2006, 03:14 PM
Like that ancient Irish saying says . . . . . " He who dies with the most tools wins . . . " . 
Posted by: 70Sixter Mar 14 2006, 03:20 PM
My rule is buy the tool when you need it. Guess I'm lucky not to have needed a plasma cutter! Unfortunately my skill set limits me to basic hand tools.
Posted by: olav Mar 14 2006, 03:27 PM
Plasma Cutter
Posted by: Mueller Mar 14 2006, 05:17 PM
| QUOTE (Porcharu @ Mar 14 2006, 02:09 PM) |
| I'm surrounded by whores! I saved myself from the second MIG but convinced myself that I NEED a gas welder rig - and a plasma cutter. Gotta go finish the tubing bender and get my tool fix. |
yep, changing the spool of wire is a PITA, even more so if you are using flux core since it's so fragile.....
i ended up buying my gas welding setup due to a similar issue with only haveing the MIG....
I do need to break down and buy some cabinets for my endmills and drill bits and better organize my lathe tooling...I'm the worst when it come to organizing my tools....I could spend hours staring at the peg board trying to figure out where to put just a few tools
Posted by: Porcharu Mar 14 2006, 05:47 PM
| QUOTE (Mueller @ Mar 14 2006, 03:17 PM) |
| yep, changing the spool of wire is a PITA, even more so if you are using flux core since it's so fragile..... i ended up buying my gas welding setup due to a similar issue with only haveing the MIG.... I do need to break down and buy some cabinets for my endmills and drill bits and better organize my lathe tooling...I'm the worst when it come to organizing my tools....I could spend hours staring at the peg board trying to figure out where to put just a few tools |
Need I say more
Posted by: Terrance Mar 14 2006, 06:03 PM
I've seen Mueller's tool collection. He has so many tools, that you can never find the right tool for the job since it's always buried in the pile. I remember it took me forever to find a phillips screw driver.
Posted by: So.Cal.914 Mar 14 2006, 06:39 PM
You know your a tool whore when:
* Your tool box is bigger than your apartment.
* Your toothbrush is a snap-on
* You know the name of every single tool, and they
know yours.
* Your tool rep see's you more than your wife does, and that's
the way you like it.
* You spread your tools all over the floor and role around on
them naked and
Oh sorry, I guess I got carried away.
Posted by: Headrage Mar 14 2006, 07:27 PM
| QUOTE (Mueller @ Mar 14 2006, 03:17 PM) |
| I'm the worst when it come to organizing my tools....I could spend hours staring at the peg board trying to figure out where to put just a few tools |
You've never been to Scott Klines house have you.
Posted by: Brian Mifsud Mar 14 2006, 07:59 PM
My dad had 3 of everything (2 sets at home, and one at work) and THEN retiring relatives gave him THEIR tools.....
We were sorting through his box wrenches and found at total of 13 of the 1/2" ones ranging from the flying "Proto" girl, to snap on, to craftsman, to Chiawanese....
No tool was EVER turned away.. like Mueller, I spent my childhood digging through cans and piles to find the right socket..
then there was the welding fetish..
300 AMP Linde TIG
MIG
Oxyacetelene
Sears Roebuch DC Stick
AC Lincoln Stick
and these were for just SCREWING around... a novice welder.....
Posted by: bd1308 Mar 14 2006, 08:08 PM
i have one HUGE tub of tools and sockets that I keep in the back of my 914. John saw it 
and he thought it was funny
b
Posted by: cooltimes Mar 14 2006, 09:15 PM
You never have enough tools, especially if your kid is a boy who can forget to put em back more often than the times you can get the 914 running to go buy more.
What is the tool used most often my 914? My guess is the 13mm wrench.
Posted by: Mueller Mar 14 2006, 09:22 PM
it would be nice with some of these higher end tools (TIG welders, tube benders, plasma cutters and such) that we could have a co-op so that there wouldn't be so much redundancy or just a plain lacking of having the needed or wanted tool due to it being too expensive or one cannot justify spending thousands of dollars for a tool that'll get used once every few months (mabey just my case)
i'd love to have a TIG, but pricey, sure, Mark D has one now, but that is 1.5hr away (and not the most portable item)
Posted by: Dave Bell Mar 14 2006, 09:39 PM
My wife and my son both walk away with my tools... so there is need for duplicates....
I buy triplicates of some common wrenchs and sockets so that I know I can find at least one when I need it........
Can you have enough air tools????... die grinders are so cheap I have at least 3 with different attachments sitting on them ready to use.... I think I could use a couple more.
Posted by: Mueller Mar 14 2006, 09:48 PM
| QUOTE (Dave Bell @ Mar 14 2006, 08:39 PM) |
| My wife and my son both walk away with my tools... so there is need for duplicates.... I buy triplicates of some common wrenchs and sockets so that I know I can find at least one when I need it........ Can you have enough air tools????... die grinders are so cheap I have at least 3 with different attachments sitting on them ready to use.... I think I could use a couple more. |
I was looking for one of my Snap-On screwdrivers one day...the wife figured that not only was it a good tool to open up the stain for our kitchen cabinets, it also makes a good stirring stick
.........needless to say, by the time I "found" it, the stuff had dried all over the handle...it's not ruined, but she could have at least grabbed one of the cheapy screwdrivers....Posted by: Brett W Mar 14 2006, 10:30 PM
You have to have the tools to do the job. Having a MIG with steel on one and aluminum on the other would be kinda nice.
This is just my shop toolbox. Doesn't count the junkyard/road bag. They have locks on tool boxes to keep the tools from growing legs.
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Posted by: Brett W Mar 14 2006, 10:33 PM
I can't work out of someone else's tool box. If I have to hunt for tools I just quit. If puts me in such a foul mood.
These are just metric wrenches:
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Posted by: Brett W Mar 14 2006, 10:35 PM
Sockets all organized so you can operate efficently. Searching for tools waste time. You would be suprised how much fun working on cars can be when you don't have to search for your tools.
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Posted by: Brett W Mar 14 2006, 10:43 PM
You know your a tool whore when your impact wrenches are made of Titanium, Magnesium, and other composites.
Posted by: Porcharu Mar 14 2006, 11:22 PM
| QUOTE (Dave Bell @ Mar 14 2006, 07:39 PM) |
| My wife and my son both walk away with my tools... so there is need for duplicates.... I buy triplicates of some common wrenchs and sockets so that I know I can find at least one when I need it........ Can you have enough air tools????... die grinders are so cheap I have at least 3 with different attachments sitting on them ready to use.... I think I could use a couple more. |
I was cleaning the garage the other day and found a brand new Makita angle grinder that I bought a while ago because I couln't find the dang wrench for it. Now I have 4 of them all loaded with different goodies. Wire wheel, cut-off disk, flap wheel and a grinding wheel on the newest one.
I like Mikes idea of the tool co-op for big stuff you almost never use, problem is most of that stuff is heavy - my tubing bender I am making is going to be about 200lbs. A tig welder is a serious hunk (unless you have one of those cool new inverter jobbies) Mill?
Some of my friends were having "autonight" every couple of weeks where we would get together at one place and crank out a project.
Posted by: Brian Mifsud Mar 14 2006, 11:54 PM
| QUOTE (Mueller @ Mar 14 2006, 07:22 PM) |
| it would be nice with some of these higher end tools (TIG welders, tube benders, plasma cutters and such) that we could have a co-op so that there wouldn't be so much redundancy or just a plain lacking of having the needed or wanted tool due to it being too expensive or one cannot justify spending thousands of dollars for a tool that'll get used once every few months (mabey just my case) i'd love to have a TIG, but pricey, sure, Mark D has one now, but that is 1.5hr away (and not the most portable item) |
I've got another of those "less than portable" TIG welders.. would love to have it part of a coop.. sitting in a nice big piece of industrial property leaving me room to actually put my car in my garage...
Someone has figured out all the legal stuff for woodshops.. and they are as dangerous or worse that most metal working shops...
Posted by: jonwatts Mar 15 2006, 12:07 AM
I've been able to slowly gravitate away from just wanting all the tools there are to only buying something when I need it.
Of course there's need, and then there's neeeeeeeeed
Posted by: jonwatts Mar 15 2006, 12:09 AM
| QUOTE (Brian Mifsud @ Mar 14 2006, 09:54 PM) |
| I've got another of those "less than portable" TIG welders.. would love to have it part of a coop.. sitting in a nice big piece of industrial property leaving me room to actually put my car in my garage... |
I think Carl Cilker has a barn, I've seen pictures.
Hi Dad!
Posted by: Brett W Mar 15 2006, 09:51 AM
Having mulitple grinders with Grinding disks, cut-off wheels, and wire brushes would be really nice. That would save having to switch them out.
Why don''t you guys in CA rent some space as a group and pull all of your projects into one place? Then you could easily sahre some of those bigger tools.
Posted by: stock93 Mar 15 2006, 03:45 PM
I've definately been accused of being a tool whore a couple of times. I've maxed out my snap on credit line, paid cash for more stuff, and have a large want list on the as soon as I get the money. I hate to think what I have total in tools and I'm only 22. Although, when I need a tool I usually have it.
John
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