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Posted by: nine14cats Mar 15 2006, 03:37 PM

Okay you NorCal 914Club members....who's going to the PCA-LPR AX at Marina this Sunday, March 19th?

I'm thinking of going...hopefully I can work out the schedule....was wondering if anyone else felt the urge....

Bill P.

Posted by: 9146R Mar 15 2006, 07:01 PM

Bill,
I'd be there except it is 29th wedding anniversary - divorce for sure if I autox'd instead of the get-away-day and dinner celebration. Great venue - have fun.
Greg

Posted by: nine14cats Mar 18 2006, 11:20 AM

C'mon guys....isn't anybody else's car off of jackstands?....

Wait...my two cars are on jackstands.....I'm taking the taildragger....

Anyone? Anyone? Trekkor?

Bill P.

Posted by: Dan (Almaden Valley) Mar 18 2006, 11:21 AM

Sorry Bill,
Orange Julius is not quite ready for his coming out party.

Very soon

Posted by: nine14cats Mar 18 2006, 11:29 AM

Hi Dan,

I figured the prep work on your car wouldn't be finished.

Looking good for CDS on 4/15 and 4/16?

I'm filling out my paperwork for the TT on 4/29 and 4/30.

Bill P.

Posted by: Dan (Almaden Valley) Mar 18 2006, 11:36 AM

Yes, maiden voyage is going to be the 15th with CDS. Good venue to dial things in a bit.
Will be at TT#2 all ready to go.
Monentum shall reign supreme

Posted by: trekkor Mar 18 2006, 02:29 PM

I really want to go.

I have to have balance of my activities now that i am including track days, too.


I likely miss this one.
31st at Thill. Then Zone #1 and #2 and SR airport on the 1st and 2nd of April.


KT

Posted by: Andyrew Mar 18 2006, 02:31 PM

Dad said were going to an autox on sunday.. He might have said marina.. he said it was close.

Posted by: Randal Mar 18 2006, 03:09 PM

QUOTE

Monentum shall reign supreme

But only if you clean off those cool headers!

Posted by: ppickerell Mar 18 2006, 03:40 PM

Posted by: J P Stein Mar 18 2006, 03:53 PM

I ain't gonna make this one either, Bill.
In fact, I ain't gonna make any in CA this year.
I'm up to my ass in autocrosses. I could prolly do 25-30.....then need a good divorce lawyer.

Posted by: grantsfo Mar 18 2006, 04:24 PM

Sorry to miss this AX at Marina. ....looks like great weather. Have fun!

I will be dragging my budget six conversion to Track Masters at Infineon the end of this month and CDS in April. I'll head up to first Zone AX too.

Should be intersting since I will be learning how to drive a six with fat wheels and tires. I'm so used to keeping my foot flat on the floor with my 1.8 I think it will be interesting to have almost double the power. I will also be figuring out what I want to do with my suspension. I have so many differnt setup recomendations I think I need to just drive my on my current suspension and then start making changes.

Posted by: nine14cats Mar 18 2006, 04:28 PM

Grant,

Let me check my spring box here at home. I might have a few that you can try in different increments....

I have a bunch in the 350lbs to 450lbs range, but come to think of it I think Andy S (Wyld6) was going to borrow them to test his car, I'll have to PM him.

I know I have 180's, 200's and 250's around here...I think

Randal,

Did I sell you the 200's or 250's last year? I can't remember?

Anyway...I'll check and see what I have...at least you can try them our at the AX's and see how the car responds. If we show up at the same event I'll help you swap them out inbetween sessions if you want.

Bill P.

Posted by: trekkor Mar 18 2006, 04:31 PM

200#'s


KT

Posted by: nine14cats Mar 18 2006, 04:49 PM

Grant,

I just checked my stash....Here's what I have:

H&R 10" 2.25 I.D. 250#

Eibach 10" 2.5" I.D. 350#
Eibach 10" 2.5" I.D. 400#
Eibach 10" 2.5" I.D. 450#

I must have sold my 200's or 220's to Randal a few years ago.

If you are running standard size Bilstein's or Koni's in the back, you'll most likely want the 2.5" I.D. springs, but these are probably too stiff for your car currently. You wouldn't be able to adjust out the oversteer with a 22mm Welt bar.

I ran a 27mm Smart bar with 23mm Tbars on our 914. I could then use the springs above with the Smart bar and adjust as I pleased.

Bill P.

Posted by: grantsfo Mar 18 2006, 04:55 PM

QUOTE (nine14cats @ Mar 18 2006, 02:28 PM)

Grant, Let me check my spring box here at home.  I might have a few that you can try in different increments.... I have a bunch in the 350lbs to 450lbs range, but come to think of it I think Andy S (Wyld6) was going to borrow them to test his car, I'll have to PM him. I know I have 180's, 200's and 250's around here...I think Randal, Did I sell you the 200's or 250's last year?  I can't remember? Anyway...I'll check and see what I have...at least you can try them our at the AX's and see how the car responds.  If we show up at the same event I'll help you swap them out inbetween sessions if you want. Bill P.

Thanks Bill! My car currently has 200# springs and stock torsion bars with 21 mm weltmiester front swaybar. I have a sense that with 265 width tires in the rear and 225's in the front I may need more spring than 200#.

Posted by: Randal Mar 18 2006, 05:02 PM

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Did I sell you the 200's or 250's last year? I can't remember?

I have your springs on my car now. I'll have to ask Brad what size they were, unless you can read it off the springs.

Don't you remember (OMG) two years ago - we were all changing springs back and forth so much that it was like playing drop the soap.

Posted by: trekkor Mar 18 2006, 05:02 PM

I can't stress this enough:
Get the BIG front bar and stock rear bar on that car!

Ride with me at SR. I'll show you

Come up to Thill after your track day at Sears if you like.


KT

Posted by: billd Mar 18 2006, 05:07 PM

I'll be there with my stock 73 2.0L. All of 85 horsepower.

Posted by: Andyrew Mar 18 2006, 05:10 PM

I have 12in 275 2.5id's on the back right now..

I have a feeling that it will be to much spring for the track, but just enough for the tight autox's...

Posted by: Dan (Almaden Valley) Mar 18 2006, 05:12 PM

Oh Billd, you must have at least 86HP.
Bill, did you ever find headers or SSIs for the 2.0L, or are you putting all your effort into the 6 now? How is the motor situation coming along? Is it going to be a 2.7 or 3.0?

Posted by: nine14cats Mar 18 2006, 05:19 PM

Bill D., I bet you have at least 87.5 HP in that car! Well...at least one 914 is going!

Dan,

No 4 parts left except for a burch muffler setup that I have to get rid of. I sold the SSI's to someone up north according to my parts log book.

I bought a 3.0 litre motor for The Beast.

Here's the thread....post your thoughts on the configuration....

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act=ST&f=2&t=48237

Bill P.

Posted by: nine14cats Mar 18 2006, 05:26 PM

Hi Randal,

Yep...I remember when we were swapping parts right and left trying to get the cars all dialed....even swapping springs out at AX events!

I think the ones you have are 200's or 250's You can read them on the spring itself. Eibach codes it 1000.250.0250 where it means 10" length / 2.5" I.D. / 250lbs.

The Beast currently has coilovers on all 4 corners using Advanced Design Ground Control shocks with 2.25 inch I.D. springs.

I'd like to stay witht he advanced designs....but we'll see.

Bill P.

Posted by: Dan (Almaden Valley) Mar 18 2006, 06:38 PM

Bill, I was reading your thread on the Beast motor....If it were me I would build it to be a fairly exact replica of the 2.7 you had except with the 3.0 or 3.2 displacement.
That is my $9.14 worth.

I sold my SSIs and Bursch about two weeks ago to someone on the board from here in SJ. weekender (Erik) IIRC

Had my car out and drove around the block today just for

Put my numbers on today....now it really is a track car. No more magnetic numbers

torsion bars and porterfields with brake bleed tomorrow.

Posted by: nine14cats Mar 18 2006, 06:56 PM

Allright Dan!

I want a ride at Buttonwillow.....

Bill P.

Posted by: Dan (Almaden Valley) Mar 18 2006, 10:21 PM

You can have a ride anytime Bill, if you want to get bored and watch the scenery go by at a slower pace