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Posted by: lapuwali Mar 15 2006, 03:41 PM

I've lifted plenty of inline engines with my crane, but never a Type IV, or any other flat engine. I need to do this to load it into a truck for shipping. I was thinking of making a sling out of webbing, or something similar. Anyone have any comments?

Posted by: r_towle Mar 15 2006, 03:51 PM

I have done it.

I used rope on the engine bar, and the rear of the tranny...worked great.

I also welded a bar across an olr rear bumper...you can then lift up the whole rear of the car, pretty high too!!

Rich

Posted by: Paul Illick Mar 15 2006, 03:55 PM

It's not that heavy, so even a pretty thin web like those cheap tie-down ratchets is enough, just double it to be safe. I go a loop around the bottom front of the oil pump, another around the bottom rear of the the engine behind the clutch flange, and balance those two loops on top in the middle. Simple, easy. I love web, it's quick, flexible, strong, and you can throw it in the trunk and it won't rattle.

Posted by: thesey914 Mar 15 2006, 04:09 PM

why not just lift it by hand...it's not that heavy. certianly not for 2 people

Posted by: MattR Mar 15 2006, 04:26 PM

I bet it weighs the same as a boxster muffler

Posted by: Porcharu Mar 15 2006, 04:37 PM

QUOTE (thesey914 @ Mar 15 2006, 02:09 PM)
why not just lift it by hand...it's not that heavy. certianly not for 2 people

It's not that heavy for an engine, but it's a pretty good hunk of mass and it would really suck to drop it.
My absolutely complete 2.0 was a pretty good heft for 2 normal sized guys. I would guess it was about 275 pounds (about 9 boxster mufflers?) maybe 290. I know my Suby is 254 pounds and the T4 was a bit heavier.

Posted by: lapuwali Mar 15 2006, 04:46 PM

This is a mostly stripped 1.7 (no intake, no HEs, no engine mount bar, but has the fan and housing). It's going into a hatchback (a Golf), so we may have to lift it after all. I doubt the crane would clear the hatch.

I'll still use the crane and webbing to hold it up while I pull off the HEs. It's sitting on an appliance cart now.

Posted by: bd1308 Mar 15 2006, 04:48 PM

301 pounds with the skid it was on....

b

Posted by: Jake Raby Mar 15 2006, 04:55 PM

We lift em all by hand... It takes 4 times as long to harnass one to lift it than it takes to just get it over with... Brent and I are both about 170 and can do it 10 times a day... Just lift with your legs-

Posted by: davep Mar 15 2006, 06:06 PM

Wow, my friend and I carried a complete 2.0 with tin down and back up a twisted stairwell with no elbow room. Another friend and I tossed a complete 911 engine into the back of his Rabbit GTI. And I'm not a big guy at all.

Posted by: thesey914 Mar 16 2006, 02:30 AM

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Posted by: alpha434 Mar 16 2006, 03:11 AM

I carried a type IV up four stories. Uphill both ways.

Don't believe me? I'll take pictures. It's in my apartment.

Posted by: davep Mar 16 2006, 06:18 AM

QUOTE (thesey914 @ Mar 16 2006, 12:30 AM)
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younger and foolish, especially with my bad back. But it was a task that had to be done at the time.

Posted by: Paul Illick Mar 16 2006, 07:21 AM

QUOTE (alpha434 @ Mar 16 2006, 01:11 AM)
I carried a type IV up four stories. Uphill both ways.

Don't believe me? I'll take pictures. It's in my apartment.

I used to do things like that too. Two back operations ago. I learned the hard way why humans invented tools.

Posted by: Brian Mifsud Mar 16 2006, 12:57 PM

I bolted one of these into my pickup truck last year... it's awefully handy for $100. You can hoist an engine out of a conventional (front engined car) and drop it right down into the bed of the truck. It's rated for 1000lbs and full extension, it will still handle 500lbs.

Really saved my back this last winter moving my wood/metal shop, +2 engines (on engine stand!) etc.

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Posted by: zymurgist Mar 16 2006, 01:00 PM

QUOTE (r_towle @ Mar 15 2006, 04:51 PM)
I also welded a bar across an olr rear bumper...you can then lift up the whole rear of the car, pretty high too!!

Can you lift the back of a 914 with an engine crane without modifying the bumper? I'm always looking for new uses for my crane.

Posted by: Aaron Cox Mar 16 2006, 01:00 PM

QUOTE (Brian Mifsud @ Mar 16 2006, 11:57 AM)
I bolted one of these into my pickup truck last year... it's awefully handy for $100. You can hoist an engine out of a conventional (front engined car) and drop it right down into the bed of the truck. It's rated for 1000lbs and full extension, it will still handle 500lbs.

Really saved my back this last winter moving my wood/metal shop, +2 engines (on engine stand!) etc.

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those are on sale at harbor freight!

I bicep curl type 4's all day long