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914World.com _ 914World Garage _ For those that care....BAD TUB UPDATE
Posted by: ! Mar 24 2006, 09:28 AM
BAD TUB got the CHP stamp of approval last night......got it's assigned VIN # and I gots my appointment with the BAR (Smog weenies). They want a base line even though it's exempt from smog checks and control.
Took it out on the road last night with an anal probe up the dump tube off of the turbo. Dialed in (as much as possible) the best a/f mix while driving under load.....the wide band 02 meter worked well and I've dialed in 5lbs of boost after putting 500 miles on the new motor......another 500 and I'll try for 8 lbs....anymore and I'll consider an intercooler.
Got so excited I waxed my tub last night in the garage under lights....now it's a shiny ten foot paint job... 
After BAR....off to the cretins at DMV and PLATES!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: trekkor Mar 24 2006, 09:35 AM
You think those agenciess are bad. Try dealing with City of Napa building dept.
Hold please...( five minutes pass ) " Hi, can I help you?"
"Yeah , I'm on hold waiting for an answer"
Hold please...( click ) 
Typical.
Glad your project is working out.
KT
Posted by: Headrage Mar 24 2006, 11:11 AM
Way to go Mike. Hopefully I'll get to see it someday...
Posted by: Howard Mar 24 2006, 11:12 AM
Trek, Mike is a SB county environmental Nazi. This is just payback time.
Posted by: ! Mar 24 2006, 12:17 PM
Howie, buddy, boobala...."nazis" you can't negotiate with....."weenies" you can.
Thus they/me are weenies until they/we become unreasonable.... 
Posted by: alpha434 Mar 24 2006, 12:33 PM
Is this the 356 that you painted with a 2-inch paintbrush?
Why would you turbo it? You can put a chopped down 911 motor in there. Then you've atleast got overhead cams to work with.
Kids these days.... 
Posted by: Aaron Cox Mar 24 2006, 01:13 PM
he has 2 speedsters kid......
one qith a 2.2S motor... and one with a turbo type 1....
Posted by: Mueller Mar 24 2006, 01:36 PM
| QUOTE (alpha434 @ Mar 24 2006, 11:33 AM) |
| Is this the 356 that you painted with a 2-inch paintbrush? Why would you turbo it? You can put a chopped down 911 motor in there. Then you've atleast got overhead cams to work with. Kids these days.... |
hmmm, have you "priced" a cut-down 911/4 motor??
it's like $20K just for the motor.....
Posted by: Aaron Cox Mar 24 2006, 01:42 PM
| QUOTE (Mueller @ Mar 24 2006, 12:36 PM) | ||
hmmm, have you "priced" a cut-down 911/4 motor?? it's like $20K just for the motor..... |
why would we do that? say first, think later
Posted by: jd74914 Mar 24 2006, 01:58 PM
| QUOTE (Aaron Cox @ Mar 24 2006, 02:42 PM) | ||||
why would we do that? say first, think later |
or think naught at all.
Posted by: Porcharu Mar 24 2006, 02:06 PM
| QUOTE (Mueller @ Mar 24 2006, 11:36 AM) |
| Why would you turbo it? You can put a chopped down 911 motor in there. Then you've atleast got overhead cams to work with. Kids these days.... [/QUOTE]hmmm, have you "priced" a cut-down 911/4 motor?? it's like $20K just for the motor..... |
Aren't those Suby motors.
Posted by: ! Mar 24 2006, 05:12 PM
License Plates....at last.....smog....woooo nelly, 6.77 CO @ IDLE 10.5 CO @2500 rpms.
8220 ppm and 7683 HC....can you SAY FAT???
Posted by: Aaron Cox Mar 24 2006, 05:19 PM
how many gallons of bondo did it take you to mnake the rear lid? 
BTW- where is the intercooler going to go???
Posted by: Mueller Mar 24 2006, 05:20 PM
look'n good....going to run some numbers down with a G-tech and so what it puts out??
Posted by: ! Mar 24 2006, 06:16 PM
| QUOTE (Aaron Cox @ Mar 24 2006, 04:19 PM) |
| how many gallons of bondo did it take you to mnake the rear lid? BTW- where is the intercooler going to go??? |
Fiberglass and steel, beyotch......bondo is fer ghetto dwellers.
Posted by: MattR Mar 24 2006, 06:23 PM
| QUOTE ("*" @ Mar 24 2006, 04:16 PM) |
| ......bondo is fer ghetto dwellers. |
and frank
Posted by: alpha434 Mar 24 2006, 06:26 PM
Mike, you just chopped a regualr 356 for that, right? Please say that you wouldn't do that to a real speedster. How much dondo did you use in the rest of the car?
And the chopped 911 engines don't cost 20 grand IF YOU DO IT YOURSELF!!! Kids these days. Jeeze.
Posted by: Aaron Cox Mar 24 2006, 06:30 PM
| QUOTE (alpha434 @ Mar 24 2006, 05:26 PM) |
| Mike, you just chopped a regualr 356 for that, right? Please say that you wouldn't do that to a real speedster. How much dondo did you use in the rest of the car? And the chopped 911 engines don't cost 20 grand IF YOU DO IT YOURSELF!!! Kids these days. Jeeze. |
sorry for the hijack, but there needs to be a humbling beat down of the alphster....
:WHACK:
anyway mike - looks mean. you shoulda gone 8's all around
Posted by: alpha434 Mar 24 2006, 06:37 PM
Hey Aaron.
Back when I was growing up, I learned that you have to have three times the skill base to play on the level with someone who has twice your pocketbook.
I learned that playing paintball. And it carries over everywhere.
Cost for Aaron Cox to chop a 6= 20,000$ plus time waiting for it to get done
Cost for Alpha to chop a 6=500$ plus time to get it done.
Looks like that Vocational degree will pay itself off.
Posted by: Mueller Mar 24 2006, 06:37 PM
| QUOTE (alpha434 @ Mar 24 2006, 05:26 PM) |
| And the chopped 911 engines don't cost 20 grand IF YOU DO IT YOURSELF!!! Kids these days. Jeeze. |
you and this "if you do it yourself BS"...how many people can do it or have access to the equipment??? if it was that easy, YOU do it and sell 'em for half that price
and even if YOU could do it, you'd end up spending 10K in parts and labor easily....
Posted by: alpha434 Mar 24 2006, 06:49 PM
Everyone here is a DIY mechanic. That's because it is cost effective. If I were to sit down and setup the tooling to make these engines, I could maybe sell one-two a year. And I have 0-little interest in having my own chopped 6.
And I would sell them for $19,000. I'm not here to screw with the guy who already does it.
I do have access to the equipment. A lot of people don't. But you could buy a lot of nice used machinery for 20,000$. Anyway, I've already been approached by people on this board with similar projects. I always quote extremely low in the name of science.
Fair enough?
Posted by: ! Mar 24 2006, 06:51 PM
| QUOTE (Aaron Cox @ Mar 24 2006, 05:30 PM) | ||
sorry for the hijack, but there needs to be a humbling beat down of the alphster.... :WHACK: anyway mike - looks mean. you shoulda gone 8's all around |
Yup.....so that's why I ordered 1 inch spacers......comes with long bolts.....
Like me...just call me LONG BOLT....
As to a cut down /6.....do one, get it done and running and I'll pay ya 5K.....2500 for the motor, your 500 in costs and 2k profit....
Posted by: Mueller Mar 24 2006, 06:55 PM
| QUOTE |
| Why would you turbo it? You can put a chopped down 911 motor in there. Then you've atleast got overhead cams to work with. Kids these days.... |
I read this as calling Mikey a dumbass for not doing what you consider an easy or practical solution....
Why do you own a 914? YOU obviously can build an Carrera GT from scratch or so it appears
Posted by: ! Mar 24 2006, 06:58 PM
he called me a dumass? Stand in line Joe Bob.... 
Posted by: alpha434 Mar 24 2006, 07:00 PM
That was sarcasm. Mixed with porsche purist BS.
I'm working on a carrera GT in my backyard, now that you mention it.
There is no such thing as an easy or practical solution when it comes to cars. You know this.
Posted by: Headrage Mar 24 2006, 07:13 PM
| QUOTE (alpha434 @ Mar 24 2006, 04:37 PM) |
| Back when I was growing up, I learned that you have to have three times the skill base to play on the level with someone who has twice your pocketbook. |
Yer birth date is 3/09/86
Posted by: alpha434 Mar 24 2006, 07:16 PM
| QUOTE (Headrage @ Mar 24 2006, 05:13 PM) | ||
Yer birth date is 3/09/86 |
Yeah. AND?!?!
I learned fast. Ok?
Posted by: ! Mar 24 2006, 07:18 PM
SLITs has underwear older than you..... 
Posted by: Gint Mar 24 2006, 07:25 PM
| QUOTE ("*" @ Mar 24 2006, 06:18 PM) |
| SLITs has underwear older than you..... |
*You* have boogers older'n him.
Posted by: ! Mar 24 2006, 07:30 PM
Pic of Frank for the noob.....
65 C, coupe...rusty POS.....
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Posted by: ! Mar 24 2006, 07:31 PM
Frank at the AX...NOT the slowest. I think SLITs was....
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Posted by: ! Mar 24 2006, 07:31 PM
Frank getting some sun.....
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Posted by: alpha434 Mar 24 2006, 07:33 PM
| QUOTE ("*" @ Mar 24 2006, 05:30 PM) |
| Pic of Frank for the noob..... 65 C, coupe...rusty POS..... |
Dude. I've been making fun of your 356 for a long time. I know what it looks like. Now tell me that it isn't a real speedster. It's a chopped coupe. That way I can sleep at night.
You painted it with bedliner???
Posted by: ! Mar 24 2006, 07:38 PM
Which ONE numbnutz? BAD TUB is a fiberglass replica Speedster.....Frank is a real rusty POS coupe that's been tube framed and cut down.
I read YOUR sig line....it's been in MINE for months......
Getting REALLY close for a cleavage pic......don't make me.....
Posted by: alpha434 Mar 24 2006, 07:41 PM
What??? Whatare you talking about now?
And thanks for clarifying the two different cars. Both sprayed with bedliner.
Posted by: Aaron Cox Mar 24 2006, 07:44 PM
| QUOTE (alpha434 @ Mar 24 2006, 06:41 PM) |
| What??? Whatare you talking about now? And thanks for clarifying the two different cars. Both sprayed with bedliner. |
who is this guy?
usually you gotta know someone before ragging on em (alpha excluded) LOL...
I know mike.... in a biblical sense
K I D D I N G
Posted by: ! Mar 24 2006, 07:47 PM
You made me.....
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Posted by: alpha434 Mar 24 2006, 07:51 PM
| QUOTE ("*" @ Mar 24 2006, 05:47 PM) |
| You made me..... |
Nice tits, dude! Are they real or did you get implants?
Posted by: ! Mar 24 2006, 07:55 PM
| QUOTE (alpha434 @ Mar 24 2006, 06:51 PM) | ||
Nice tits, dude! Are they real or did you get implants? |
You make dirt look smart.....
Posted by: alpha434 Mar 24 2006, 07:57 PM
You're about as much use as a Betamax videorecorder
Posted by: Tom Perso Mar 24 2006, 08:22 PM
Mike, how's your throw-down trans holding your 1-2 WOT shifts? I tell you, a good T1 trans can take a LOT of abuse. Lord knows, I threw a ton at my old one.
Tom
Posted by: ! Mar 24 2006, 08:36 PM
So far so good. It's got a leak at the R&P cover....builder says, pull it and I'll reseal it.....gee thanks....
Posted by: Tom Perso Mar 24 2006, 09:18 PM
F'in-A, are you kidding me?
Wearout.
You need to put a line-lock on the fronts and do some MASSIVE burnouts with that monster.
Get some skinny 15x4.5 bias-plys, pump 'em up to 50psi and let it rip.
Tom
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