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Posted by: Kerrys914 Mar 31 2006, 03:16 PM

Dumb Q but it's Friday..... so there you go

Posted by: Mueller Mar 31 2006, 03:51 PM

my answer, it's a name ....notice there are a few different Carrera's thru the years....it might signify that that particular model is a little better than the other models (of the same type)

Posted by: i love porsche Mar 31 2006, 04:22 PM

at first, i believe it was a name to signify a high performance model (356 carrera, carrera 2.7, 924 Carrera GT) then it just became synonomous with the 911..

Posted by: lapuwali Mar 31 2006, 05:06 PM

The name derives from the Carrera Panamerica, a road race across the Baja Peninsula on mostly paved roads that's had an on-again/off-again history. In the 1950s, several European sports car manufacturers competed fairly seriously in it, using big-name drivers like Phil Hill. Porsche competed, and thus the Carrera name was born.

The 356 and early 911 based Carrera models (like the '73 Carrera RS, which was a 2.7 when the regular model was a 2.4) were high-performance models.

From 1984-on, the Carrera name basically signified nothing. ALL 911s were Carreras during the 3.2 era ('84-'89), then the 964s were Carrera 2 or Carrera 4 depending on 2wd v. 4wd, etc. One can argue this was Porsche's first shot at dropping the numbering scheme and going to names: Carrera, Cayman, Cayenne, etc.

Posted by: Headrage Mar 31 2006, 05:10 PM

Sounds kinda like the way Chevy badged the Camaro IROC.

Posted by: So.Cal.914 Mar 31 2006, 05:56 PM

I watched a doc on the history channel about the Panamerica, from the beginning to the end. What a wild race it was especially in the early
days. The drivers had no protection, the roads were poor and the tires were dismal. A well known driver ( I don't remember the name) was killed duering the race, bringing on the beginning of the end.

Posted by: Aaron Cox Mar 31 2006, 07:14 PM

real carerra's have 4 cams

Posted by: Kerrys914 Mar 31 2006, 08:09 PM

I asked because I have seen a 914 with the Carrera side script and it looked very nice and seemed to work with the style. Plus I figured you guys would know.

I wasn't sure if I dropped a 3.+L engine and had the brakes off a "carrera" would I have 914 with carrera like features? I don't think it's right to JUST slap a badging decal on the side of another car, if it doesn't have any of the traits of that car...Make sense??
BUT
If it was just a name and there was no real difference between a Carrera 911 and a non badged 911 then cool..it's just a name and if I loke the look I could use it.

Thanks

Posted by: Aaron Cox Mar 31 2006, 08:11 PM

carerra means race in a few languages.... i think

Posted by: kdfoust Mar 31 2006, 08:22 PM

La Carrera ain't over yet. Here's the http://www.panamrace.com/ It's on my TODO list.

Posted by: Joe Sharp Mar 31 2006, 08:35 PM

914's should not be baged with the carrera script because they are Carerror's. Made by Volkeswagon in the early 70's it was an auotmotive-mistake. Therfore a VW Carerror.
:PERMAGRIN: Joe

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Posted by: VegasRacer Mar 31 2006, 08:37 PM

Carrera

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Posted by: VegasRacer Mar 31 2006, 08:38 PM

Eva Peron

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Posted by: VegasRacer Mar 31 2006, 08:42 PM

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Posted by: VegasRacer Mar 31 2006, 08:44 PM

Poster

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Posted by: Kerrys914 Mar 31 2006, 09:03 PM

QUOTE (Joe Sharp @ Mar 31 2006, 10:35 PM)
914's should not be baged with the carrera script because they are Carerror's. Made by Volkeswagon in the early 70's it was an auotmotive-mistake. Therfore a VW Carerror.
:PERMAGRIN: Joe

Dude that took me WAY too long to figure out.. Nice work.

Very funny

Posted by: pek771 Mar 31 2006, 09:14 PM

Then there is the Super Carrera...

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Posted by: Kurt A Mar 31 2006, 10:05 PM

The last car to be called a Carrera before every 911 became one in '84
was...

A 924- circa 1981

It's also my favorite waterpumper.

Posted by: Cap'n Krusty Mar 31 2006, 10:16 PM

QUOTE (Aaron Cox @ Mar 31 2006, 05:14 PM)
real carerra's have 4 cams

It says so on my T-shirt, it must be true! The Cap'n

Posted by: bjorn jacobson Mar 31 2006, 10:21 PM

Is Aaron starting to get snobby on us?

Posted by: ! Mar 31 2006, 10:23 PM

yeah they diluted the name when ALL 911s in 84 ....didn't help that they were fat pigs and had valve guide issues....

BTW...."I" made the Carrerror scripts for Joe.....

Some of my stuff will be given away or silent auctioned at the WCC 06....

Posted by: VegasRacer Mar 31 2006, 10:43 PM

The prize of my collection.

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Posted by: SGB Mar 31 2006, 10:47 PM

QUOTE (Aaron Cox @ Mar 31 2006, 08:14 PM)
real carerra's have 4 cams

there it is.

Posted by: kdfoust Apr 1 2006, 11:00 AM

Dude, those La Carrera plates are great!

Posted by: ! Apr 1 2006, 11:46 AM

John.....any dates and finish history behind the plates?

Posted by: Carrera916 Apr 1 2006, 05:09 PM

See the engine in my avatar?

Drop this sumbitch in your 914 and you can really call her CARRERA 914!!!

Posted by: VegasRacer Apr 1 2006, 06:55 PM

QUOTE ("*" @ Apr 1 2006, 10:46 AM)
John.....any dates and finish history behind the plates?

1950 # 197 - not issued to a competitor.
1951 #2 - This plate was on the same 'City of Roses' Olds Rocket 88 that was driven to victory by Hershel McGriff the 1st year of the race. In '51 Bud Sennett did not repeat and was out of the race after the 3rd day.
1952 #20 - Luigi Chinetti finished in 3rd place with his Ferrari behind a team of MB Gull Wings.
1953 #45 - Luigi Chinetti did not do as well with a Ferrari this year. He did not finish the event due to mechanical problems.
1954 #20 - This plate was on the same Ferrari that Chinetti drove the previous year. Driver Phil Hill and co-driver Richie Ginther ended up in 2nd plate for the final Carrera Mexico road race.
1954 #229 - This plate was from an Alfa. After the race it was probably cut down and repinted by a Mexican National and used on a normal passenger car or truck to avoid paying registration fees at the DMV.

Posted by: xitspd Apr 2 2006, 04:17 PM

Nice plates John! The 1975 Carrera was the first 911 wide body imported into the Unites States as a consumers vehicle. I believe that were slightly less the 400 imported. I have the factory Certificate of Authenticity on the my car pictured. It has slightly less than 100,000 on the machine which sports the stock leather interior and a sun roof. They were know to run very hot with termal reactors to defeat the smog issues in 1975, which at that time even GM, Ford and others were doing. Not a rocketship( 2.7 CIS) in the grunt of the flat six as we have come to know, fantastic ride and handling. This car is stock with the exception of the fiberglass front and rear bumpers I bought from our friend Dave B. at TRE. In that front grille I have the same MEGA B&B front oil cooler the I have in my 914-6. Dave B. is perhaps more knowlege on these early 911 Carrera's and RSR's, RS's, 1974 IROC's, and the 3.0 RSR's than anyone I know.

Dan

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Posted by: flatout Apr 2 2006, 04:43 PM

I have a 75 euro carrera, that I had shipped in a few years ago. It has the 2.7 with MFI, the vin is 911560xxxx the fifth number 6 indicates a Euro Carrera. Gus Pfister at Pacific Fuel Injection checked all the numbers ,even on the fuel injection pump. I really love the car. Sorta a pain to get it registered here, but was worth the trouble

Posted by: J P Stein Apr 2 2006, 06:53 PM

That euro Carrera is no sheep in wolf's clothing like its US counterpart.

Posted by: xitspd Apr 2 2006, 06:58 PM

That's HOT! Mine is missing H.P. big time compared to Mechanical INJ EURO Model. Thanks for the secret santa gift again! It's in my bar.

Dan

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Posted by: Howard Apr 2 2006, 07:08 PM

Real Carreras have automatic transmissions and pretty girls hanging on them.

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Posted by: xitspd Apr 2 2006, 07:09 PM

This is TRUE!

Dan

Posted by: Howard Apr 2 2006, 07:13 PM

Dan, that reminds me. We're still in phone tag. I think I tagged you last

Posted by: Mrs. K Apr 2 2006, 08:17 PM

QUOTE (Howard @ Apr 2 2006, 05:08 PM)
Real Carreras have automatic transmissions and pretty girls hanging on them.

Thanks Howie

How was Palm Springs?

Lisa

Posted by: BarberDave Apr 3 2006, 07:58 AM

Kerry: There is a guy in Fort Wayne Ind.that has a Blue 914,with a 3.6 in it With the Carrera script on the side.
I haven't seen it for a couple of yrs. now. I could send you his E-Mail. He is a Great guy Dave

Posted by: carr914 Apr 3 2006, 08:04 AM

Dan, I've got a 74 Euro Carrera race car that I'm trying to trace it's history. Do you think your friend Dave could be of assistance?

T.C.

Posted by: Tobra Apr 3 2006, 08:54 AM

QUOTE (flatout @ Apr 2 2006, 02:43 PM)
I have a 75 euro carrera, that I had shipped in a few years ago. It has the 2.7 with MFI, the vin is 911560xxxx the fifth number 6 indicates a Euro Carrera. Gus Pfister at Pacific Fuel Injection checked all the numbers ,even on the fuel injection pump. I really love the car. Sorta a pain to get it registered here, but was worth the trouble :D :driving-girl:

Many things worth having are difficult to aquire

Hey, Miss February

Back on topic, this race is one of the ones where Porsche made their bones with the 550