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Posted by: J P Stein Apr 2 2006, 03:48 PM

So, got my trick gears into my trans, loaded
the cluster into the case....tried putting on the tail housing....and it won't go....Sumbitch, the reverse gear is incompatible with the B gear.

Where TF does one find one that is?....God only knows.
Otto's, Powerhouse, Brad Mayeur?

I guess I *really* don't need reverse..right..careful planning is sure to get me wrapped around the axle

I'll go write some email while youz guys
Have a nice time.....shit.

Posted by: Aaron Cox Apr 2 2006, 04:10 PM

yup, first gears are 3 piece sets

Posted by: J P Stein Apr 2 2006, 04:12 PM

Thanks for helping out, AAaaron. That dawned on me bout a half hour ago....it's gud to have it hammered home tho

Posted by: Aaron Cox Apr 2 2006, 04:35 PM

QUOTE (J P Stein @ Apr 2 2006, 03:12 PM)

Thanks for helping out, AAaaron. That dawned on me bout a half hour ago....it's gud to have it hammered home tho

i just thought that went without saying rofl!

BTW - joo ship the valve caps?


BTW2 - i think i found a C gear...

Posted by: brant Apr 2 2006, 04:41 PM

I ran last season without reverse gear and its do able...

the new box won't have reverse either. You can do without and get by.

does this mean you got your diff?

when

which one... GT?

holy moly are they available now?

I've got calls to make tomorrow morning

brant

Posted by: trekkor Apr 2 2006, 05:06 PM

Sorry about the bummer, JP.

I've given up on my search for a "C" or a "D" first gear set.
I learned that the new gears aren't any stronger, just a differant ratio.

If I was to use it like I had planned ( ), It would break anyway.

I'll either get stock first repaired or not...


KT

Posted by: brant Apr 2 2006, 05:22 PM

Trekkor,

I don't understand..
how did you have it planned that required more strength..

they are strong enough for smaller bore motors... (200hp)

brant

Posted by: Howard R Apr 2 2006, 05:25 PM

Look here. http://www.albinsgear.com.au/porsche.html

Contact Ivan.

Posted by: trekkor Apr 2 2006, 05:27 PM

Downshifting into "C" or "D" from second at 40 mph at an A/X and winding it back up to 7300 RPM's over and over...

I'll just settle for second.


KT

Posted by: J P Stein Apr 2 2006, 06:37 PM

Howard:
Thanks. The site boots you into Power Hau$e
....but asking is free

Trekor:
It would take a special section of corners to cause me to downshift into 1st......but *my* trans will do it

Mostly, I will use it for start sections. Around here, many (50%?) start sections were too fast for 1st, but too slow for 2nd. Short shifting to 2nd costs time and can often cause the motor to fall off the bump a bit futher on in the section......not only that, rear steer in the tight stuff is easier in 1st

Posted by: J P Stein Apr 2 2006, 06:47 PM

BTW:
I now have 3 good/excellent A gear slider/dog teeth
set -ups that are excess to my needs.

Brant:
No joy on TB diffs. I gave up on waiting.

Posted by: brant Apr 2 2006, 06:57 PM

JP,

dang...
what did you do on the diff
go back to an open?
Dang... I wish Paul had those things in!


Trekkor,

I'm going with an F first, and will be using it often while downshifting from 2nd... only on a track and not on an autox, but nearly the same thing.

my builder has 205hp at the rear wheels in a torquey -4 on his similar tranny for 3 or is it 5 years now. I'm not too worried about it below 200hp.

brant

Posted by: trekkor Apr 2 2006, 07:33 PM

JP, I'm gonna need one.
Let's deal.


Brant-
An "F" ?!?
that's a stock 2nd...

Tell me more



KT

Posted by: J P Stein Apr 2 2006, 07:53 PM

QUOTE (trekkor @ Apr 2 2006, 05:33 PM)

JP, I'm gonna need one. Let's deal. KT

Whatcha got that I need.....besides youth.

Posted by: trekkor Apr 2 2006, 08:06 PM

I give driving lessons...





KT

Posted by: J P Stein Apr 2 2006, 09:10 PM

Sure, give me some at the WCC AX.
You will be there, of course?....do a bit of pond expansion?

Posted by: trekkor Apr 2 2006, 09:16 PM

Posted by: Joe Ricard Apr 3 2006, 08:44 AM

QUOTE (J P Stein @ Apr 2 2006, 07:10 PM)

Sure, give me some at the WCC AX. You will be there, of course?....do a bit of pond expansion?

Pond expansion.

Posted by: DNHunt Apr 3 2006, 08:47 AM

Damn JP that's too bad. Why not drive down and see Gary Emory. That's not too far from you. He's got all kinds of bins of parts. If he let's you just poke around you might find something. It truely would be like finding a needle in a haystack. I love looking through that place. Of course he probably would know what it's worth too. You never know.

Dave

Posted by: brant Apr 3 2006, 09:04 AM

QUOTE (trekkor @ Apr 2 2006, 06:33 PM)

JP, I'm gonna need one. Let's deal. Brant- An "F" ?!? that's a stock 2nd... Tell me more KT

Trekkor,

yep... its kinda custom...
F,J,O,S,V
should be topped out at 118@7,000; 124@7300
but... very tight ratios and all 5 gears will be useable!
(may not be so good for those standing starts you autox guys do)

JP are you adding the diff later or did you go with something else?


brant

Posted by: Aaron Cox Apr 3 2006, 10:05 AM

QUOTE (DNHunt @ Apr 3 2006, 07:47 AM)

Damn JP that's too bad. Why not drive down and see Gary Emory. That's not too far from you. He's got all kinds of bins of parts. If he let's you just poke around you might find something. It truely would be like finding a needle in a haystack. I love looking through that place. Of course he probably would know what it's worth too. You never know. Dave

i also doubt he would break up a 3 gear set.....

he may sell you the whole set tho




BRANT, so you cut off the F off 2nd and welded it to a first gear center? very cool....

Posted by: brant Apr 3 2006, 10:13 AM

basically...
except I don't believe its welded back on to a center.
I think its machined/splined in its center.

and the main shaft is machined also so as to be similar to a 904

(takes a sacrificial main shaft to do the job)

now If I could just get a freakin Diff for this box, it could be reassembled.... I hope the diffs are available soon.

brant

Posted by: Aaron Cox Apr 3 2006, 10:14 AM

QUOTE (brant @ Apr 3 2006, 09:13 AM)

basically... except I don't believe its welded back on to a center. I think its machined/splined in its center. and the main shaft is machined also so as to be similar to a 904 (takes a sacrificial main shaft to do the job) now If I could just get a freakin Diff for this box, it could be reassembled.... I hope the diffs are available soon. brant

i thought you were sold on welded/locked/spool diffs?

are you guys waiting on guard?

Posted by: brant Apr 3 2006, 10:19 AM

I do like the welded diff and I still have one in the current A, F, K/L, S, X box that is installed in the car. And the way things are going, it seams I will get to enjoy this welded diff longer than expected.

but I wanted to try something different and after a bunch of research (phone calls to Paul Guard and actual back to back track testing from my builder) I decided to go with a TB diff for the new box.

I wouldn't even be building a new box, except my old box has the -4cylinder gears and I'm getting killed with that gearing on the -6.

so as long as we are building a new box we decided to try something different for the diff. Yep... waiting on the guard TB. (and starting to fear that I will never get it)

brant