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Posted by: ClayPerrine Apr 13 2006, 06:52 AM

And I agree with Andy... Its Zois butt ugly...... :puke:


Anyone a web designer?

Posted by: lotus_65 Apr 13 2006, 07:04 AM

well it sure lost the 914 theme. maybe add back some car graphics!

Posted by: Bleyseng Apr 13 2006, 07:05 AM

This is nasty!!!!


[/u]Hopefully Andy can fix this back to the beautifool layout we had before![u]

Posted by: boboli914@att.net Apr 13 2006, 07:58 AM

The important thing is we can surf and we are keeping the Italian out! If you want beauty look at your 914 calendar

Posted by: skline Apr 13 2006, 08:02 AM

I think it was Jaroen that did all the graphics, maybe he can work his magic with this new forum. I am just glad it is back up again. Good job Andy and Brad.

Posted by: rick 918-S Apr 13 2006, 08:15 AM

Try the edit function. It's cool!

Posted by: elwood-914 Apr 13 2006, 08:18 AM

Yeah now the "Green" page doesn't look so bad huh??

Posted by: rmital Apr 13 2006, 09:13 AM

The new look works for me...it fits in with all the other generic information that's "supposed" to be on my computer screen during the day.....

Posted by: MW 914 Apr 13 2006, 09:16 AM

Wow...my .02 is, this looks awful.

Posted by: rhodyguy Apr 13 2006, 09:18 AM

still better than the eyeball sucking out of your face font at the the bird these days. i wonder who figured that improvement up?

k

Posted by: bondo Apr 13 2006, 09:24 AM

Think of it as "olympic blue".

Posted by: drew365 Apr 13 2006, 09:24 AM

Considering what it took to get this place up again, I don't think now is a good time for bicthing. Did anyone figure out if we were just a random hit by the Italian?

Posted by: CptTripps Apr 13 2006, 09:25 AM

I hate it when stuff like that happens to other boards I run.

You spend so much time getting it back from something catastrophic...then you are too exausted to put the other Theme back up.

Glad to see everything is back up and running...

Posted by: ClayPerrine Apr 13 2006, 10:09 AM

I am not bitching... I am trying to recruit a web page person to help with the graphics......

Posted by: trekkor Apr 13 2006, 10:24 AM

Glad we're back. Red stripes could work

I'm still trying to get the subliminals worked out


KT

Posted by: Jenny Apr 13 2006, 10:25 AM

Agreed. I'm having a hard time finding all the familiar shortcut buttons I'm used to. Smilies are now less chooser-friendly. Scroll down to bottom to slide to the right, scroll back up to see smilies, scroll back down and slide more, scroll back up to look for smilie... so on and so forth.

Not complaining though. Glad to have all my internet friends back.

Jen

Posted by: VegasRacer Apr 13 2006, 11:41 AM

Home Sweet Home.

Posted by: nocones Apr 13 2006, 11:51 AM

Funny Trek,
When you said that you hoped the zambezi would go away (over on the bird board)
I was looking at your avatar thinking, "White with red stripes would look cool on the club page..."

Great minds and all... (Or is that damaged minds?)

Posted by: Air_Cooled_Nut Apr 13 2006, 12:06 PM

I miss the look and feel of the old site and I agree w/Jen, the smilie selection box is toooooo long

What was the reason for the changes to the forum software?

Posted by: McMark Apr 13 2006, 12:47 PM

Hackers.

The style images have to be modified to work with the new secure software. So it's not just a matter of moving a folder into place. It's a ton of work.

Posted by: Jeroen Apr 13 2006, 02:05 PM

ewwwww... ugly standar look
well good thing we have a long weekend ahead
instead of painting easter eggs I'll throw some paint around here

oh... and thanks Andy/Mark for all the hard work and getting the site up and runnin' again!

Posted by: Air_Cooled_Nut Apr 13 2006, 04:10 PM

Thanks for the info

Posted by: mikey Apr 13 2006, 04:29 PM

Has everyone's blog vanished or just mine?

Posted by: tracks914 Apr 13 2006, 04:37 PM

It could use some tweeking and color but I'm just happy its back up and runnin.
Good work guys, thanks for all your hard work.

Posted by: Jenny Apr 13 2006, 04:39 PM

It hasn't vanished. You just can't see it.

Jen

Posted by: MattR Apr 13 2006, 04:48 PM

Were ya'll able to track down the hackers? Was it alpha? adolfred? Mike Z's avatars???

Posted by: Part Pricer Apr 13 2006, 04:56 PM

Jeroen,

Make sure that you check out http://www.ipsbeyond.com/ for info on creating a skin for 2.1. A lot of good help and examples. You don't need to change the basic setup, just dump your new skin into a certain folder.

Posted by: mikey Apr 13 2006, 07:37 PM

Oh, I guess that's ok then...a stealth blog.

Posted by: SirAndy Apr 13 2006, 09:23 PM

you guys better stop bitching, mark is getting tired ...

Andy

Posted by: SirAndy Apr 13 2006, 09:28 PM

no, we deleted ALL your blogs and previous posts and pictures and sold everyones email address to the highest bidder ...

thanks for your "trust" in our professional abilities!
apparently, everyone here thinks we're just a bunch of dumb crackheads that don't know shit about migrating software ...


this is what you get for trying to be "nice" and get the new board back up and running fast and then work out the kinks.
instead, we *should* have left it down for 2 weeks to make sure everything looks EXACTLY like the old board so you guys don't get your pansies all twisted up ...

geeeeezzzzz ...
Andy

Posted by: VegasRacer Apr 13 2006, 09:34 PM

Give him a couple of burgers and he will be fine.







Thanks a ton McMark.

Posted by: McMark Apr 13 2006, 09:38 PM

Yeah, where's the burger fund?

Posted by: r_towle Apr 13 2006, 09:45 PM

Dude, Decaf....

Take a break,,,stop reading all the crap...
Those of us that have been there done that understand the stress and hard work that you are putting in to make it work again...really a great thing...

Its your baby...take a walk..drink decaf...

Rich

Posted by: cooltimes Apr 13 2006, 09:57 PM

Thanks 914ADminrals (sic) who are doing a great recovery. The changeover colors are looking fine to me.... But I am colorblind.

Posted by: Chris914n6 Apr 13 2006, 10:20 PM

i just did finished 2 different themes for 2 updated and modded phpbb boards I manage for free...

just think of me looking over your shoulder saying "that looks nice, thanks for adding your personal touch."

Looking forward to the new one.

Chris

Posted by: mikey Apr 13 2006, 10:29 PM

No offense meant towards anyone...Should have inserted some smileys, I guess. I was just going to post some new pictures and couldn't find the tab. It will show up eventually, I'm sure. Everyone's hard work is appreciated.

Posted by: alpha434 Apr 14 2006, 01:25 AM

Uh huh. You just load new "skins" into the skins folder on the server. You download the skins directly from Invision © *or* make one, if you've got someone who knows how to.

Posted by: McMark Apr 14 2006, 02:47 AM

EXACTLY what we did before and will do again. And it's a ton of work. We fuching know how to install skins. Do you think we downloaded the 914Club skin the first time around?

The 1.1 skin we had before is not compatible with 2.1.5 and doesn't cover all the new buttons in 2.1.5. So a ton of work has to be done.

Maybe I'm just tired, but what a freakin' stupid comment.

Posted by: Hammy Apr 14 2006, 03:59 AM

Posted by: SirAndy Apr 14 2006, 04:41 AM

i'm sure Mr. "Know it All" could do a much better job than all of us in much less time ... or maybe not ...

i mean, hey dude, all that custom coding and custom graphics you did over the last 3 years, dude, you could have just dowloaded all that from invision, like, you know, they offer all kinds of custom skins, dude, they do all kinds of cool stuff, eh, for real man, all your custom crap was just a waste of time bro ...

Andy

Posted by: SirAndy Apr 14 2006, 10:56 AM

time for a little to keep this floating on top (like a turd in a pool) ...

and yes, i'm feeling better now, thanks for asking!
Andy

Posted by: r_towle Apr 14 2006, 11:00 AM

A true operations guy...you are a glutton for punishment.

Keep up the good work..again I will help if you get pissed.

I found afew good, free firewalls for linux..
If you are on linux, let me know..they have good ratings.

Also, I could help with your router config...if that is allowed..

rich

Posted by: SirAndy Apr 14 2006, 11:05 AM

thank you sir!

right now, i'm pondering options and a hardware solution like one of the "cheaper" (note, i didn't say "cheap", i said "cheaper") Netscreen Firewalls is looking pretty good to me ...
Andy

Posted by: fiid Apr 14 2006, 11:14 AM

We have some relationships with some firewall/ips companies - we might be able to score something for you. I have a really nice device on my home network. I'd really like to get more info on what happened - perhaps you could should me an email or IM?

Posted by: SirAndy Apr 14 2006, 12:55 PM

that would be cool ...


simple:

hacker guy exploits bug in old BBS software and installs custom PHP script and runs it to get domain user acocunt info and other stuff off the machine. luckily, he didn't get any passwords.
he then adds some virus/backdoor/trojan code to the main BBS index page to attack members machines.
he then proceeds to run a "brute force" attack on the FTP and NetBios Ports, trying to crack the password and hack his way into the machine with domain admin access.

that's where we catched him and closed the door on him. that's why you see blue instead of green.
we updated the BBS software to the latest version and we upgraded PHP and mySQL as well.
the system *should* be safe now, just not green anymore.
but jeroen is working on that ...

Andy

Posted by: Verruckt Apr 14 2006, 01:20 PM

Netscreen ain't all that Andy...

Because I have WAAAAY too much shit in my basement as it is... If you want, I'll donate a Nokia IP440 firewall to the cause. Consider it my "membership fee". It was decomissioned at my work, but our bandwidth requirements are are alot more than here, so it should be MORE than adequate. Anywho, if you don't mind paying for shipping, it's yours. And I also have the latest os for it. Let me know.

Howz that for "cheaper" ?

Posted by: Verruckt Apr 14 2006, 01:28 PM

I guess I should add..

Your box was rooted from an exploit in the software you were using. So no amount of firewalls would have protected from that. I'm not telling you your business, just the facts. A firewall would have only stopped a few of the things you menthioned. A firewall is not a replacement for patch management. Keep the box updated as much as possible.

A firewall will definitely help though, and the Nokia is yours if you want it.

Posted by: Rand Apr 14 2006, 01:35 PM

I use Netscreen firewalls, and have been very pleased with them. I started with a little 5xp several years ago before Juniper bought them out. I like the separate hardware unit better than running a software-based firewall on the server.

Just a heads-up (I'm sure you are already aware of, but just in case...) The subscription to keep them updated is not cheap.

Posted by: SirAndy Apr 14 2006, 01:55 PM

yes, never said it would. there's another thread here somewhere where i go more into detail. i've been around this stuff for a while. firewall DOES help protecting against the "brute force" attacks he was running, at least on the NetBios Port as there is NO reason to share this one with the world.

i'll gladly pay shipping! you rock ...
Andy

Posted by: SirAndy Apr 14 2006, 01:58 PM

no problem there either. box has always been up to date with everything, EXCEPT the BBS software.
as said before, the reason behind that is/was the TONS of custom code that went into our old BBS.
all of that is lost now and has to be re-created ...

and no, i'm not just talking about downloading some pre-made skin from invision ...
Andy

Posted by: Verruckt Apr 14 2006, 02:00 PM

I never saw that other thread? What was the title? I'd like to read it.

This nokia is a 4u. I'm not sure what your hosting arrangement is, but just know that it's big. PM me and we can get down to brass tacks.

Posted by: Rand Apr 14 2006, 02:03 PM

Good points Kurt. And very cool to offer the firewall!

The guys know what they are doing... they know a hole in the old board software was exploited. Hence the upgrade at the cost of a ton of customization work. The firewall would have been a huge protection for things like the port 139 attack that was happening after the site was compromised.
[edit: never mind, my post was slow ]

On skins...
Admins: Will multiple skins be supported now? Are you cool with people building some custom skins that could be submitted for approval and added to the list of choices?

Posted by: SirAndy Apr 14 2006, 02:18 PM

got plenty of space left, more than half a rack ...

i'm going to lunch now, i'll PM you when i get back ...
Andy

Posted by: SirAndy Apr 14 2006, 02:19 PM

i'll have to look for it. maybe that was on the bird board? alzheimers ...
Andy

Posted by: McMark Apr 14 2006, 02:46 PM

It's a possibility. (It always was)

Jeroen is in charge of look and feel. He'll have to answer this question.

Posted by: markb Apr 14 2006, 03:23 PM

And a big thanks to you, too, Jeroen, for all the work you will be putting in.

I'm with Jen, it's good to have our "home" back, even if it is a bit different for a while.

Posted by: ClayPerrine Apr 14 2006, 06:37 PM

Andy... just a curiosity quesiton....

Why is the netbios protocol enabled? I doubt it is needed for this BBS. Turn it off and block netbios at the router.

My DNS server is NT 4.0. It has not been hacked. Of course the ONLY port allowed to it is port 53.

Posted by: SirAndy Apr 14 2006, 07:51 PM

first, no router. straight into the OCR pipe. well, of course there IS a router somewhere, but it doesn't belong to us (me) ...

second, NetBios is (was) enabled because the server is one of many in the colo and i have used it in the past for backups from other machines.
easiest way, set up a (password protected of course) network share and run a script at 3 am that does your backup.
werks like a charm and wouldn't be any problem at all if the 914club box was behind a firewall ...

i have netbios turned off right now until we get a firewall in front of this box ...
Andy