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Posted by: Charles Deutsch Sep 28 2003, 11:47 AM

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Posted by: Queenie Sep 28 2003, 11:53 AM

I could have gone to watch it (don't have cable here at home) but instead I'm sitting here doing homework for my Music Appreciation class.

Oh well. If I can't watch race cars, at least I can sit here and pontificate about rock and roll. (It's really a neat class. )

Posted by: Air_Cooled_Nut Sep 28 2003, 01:17 PM

I'm gonna be watching @ my girlfriend's place while I fog my house (cat + outside = fleas).

Posted by: Charles Deutsch Sep 28 2003, 02:15 PM

Well, Michael Schumacher won the race and Juan Pablo is no longer in contention for the driver's championship but Kimi Raikkonnen, who came in second, has a slim chance of winning the championship in Suzuka if he wins that race and Schumacher doesn't score any points. The good news (for me) is that Williams-BMW could still win the constructor's championship.

Posted by: fiid Sep 28 2003, 03:18 PM

I'll take anyone but Schumacher.

Fiid.

Posted by: J P Stein Sep 28 2003, 04:05 PM

Watza' matter. Does he have bad breath? You don't like red? You don't recognize greatness when you see it? Prolly don't appreciate Lance Armstrong either, eh?

The race is not always to the fast, nor the fight to the strong....but that's the way to bet.

Posted by: boxstr Sep 28 2003, 04:26 PM

Yah Schumie.
CCLINPD

Posted by: Queenie Sep 28 2003, 04:35 PM

Personally, I dislike Schumacher's big chin.

Lance, however, is a mensch.

Posted by: seanery Sep 28 2003, 04:45 PM

It was cold as hell there today! And Rainy!!! Froze my effin' ass off! I've got pics I'll post in another thread.

Posted by: tracks914 Sep 28 2003, 07:26 PM

Ditto!!!
Do you think F1 would have given Micheal the same penalty Juan got for a racing incident?

Posted by: Jeroen Sep 28 2003, 08:15 PM

Well, I hadn't watched the F1 crap for quite some time...
Schumacher is an absolute asshole. They should have kicked him out of F1 years and years ago. He's not a sportsman.
Did he get a penalty for passing under yellow?
(I didn't see the whole race - as usual, I fell asleep watching it. It's boring as hell)

cheers,

Jeroen

Posted by: indydad Sep 29 2003, 11:38 AM

Tracks914..........the answer to your question is..............NooooooooooooooWayyyyyyyy. I saw the JPM touch of Rubens and it is a joke. I also the WAVING yellow that Mikey ignored......oh well, sometimes it takes weeks for the dust or rather hail to settle. I bet any penalty for ferrari will be just short of keeping them from taking the championship. I froze like Sean did.
Jerry
INDY (The Motorsports Capitol of the Universe)

Posted by: fiid Sep 29 2003, 11:52 AM

The race is about many things. Mainly- a set of competitors are given a set of rules to compete under. Some competitors seem to be better at circumventing enforcement than others. Schmuacher over the years has done a lot of things to get ahead that have not been particularly fair. It's really not good for the sport - It makes it boring to watch and follow, which lowers the following, and hence lowers the value of the sponsorships that keep it alive. You ain't bankrolling an F1 entrance anytime soon (I'm guessing).

Lance Armstrong, from what I have seen is a very strong competitor and doesn't cheat. He works hard. I may be wrong, but from a meta-level, he doesn't have a rolling controversy following him like schumacher does.

Technology innovation, better driving techniques, reliability and consistency are what F1 should be about. Not corruption or cheating. I don't have the time or the inclination to back up all these claims, but the fact that I have this impression means a bunch of other like minded people also have it. This years F1 has been much more interesting than last years for me specifically becuase Schumacher looked like he wasn't going to win it. I like watching the races when they aren't dominated by one team. That's going to help the sport more than what appears to be going on right now.

Fiid.

Posted by: maf914 Sep 29 2003, 01:51 PM

For the Ferrari and Schumi fans from the Nigel Roebuck column at the Autosport site:

Dear Nigel,
A number of commentators have attributed Ferrari's success in recent years to the fact that all the elements of their operation are housed under one roof. In the light of the Italian Grand Prix, and the tyre controversy which preceded it, would you agree that this is not quite true? After all, whilst Ferrari's chassis and engine facilities are located at Fiorano, Italy, the FIA headquarters are in Paris...
Gordon McCabe, Bournemouth, UK

Dear Gordon,

You might think that, but I couldn't possibly comment.



Mike