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Posted by: Dr. Roger Jun 9 2006, 12:27 AM

Ebay or is there a better place to get one?

Do you get the SBC or the Porsche compatible one?

Thanks!! piratenanner.gif

Posted by: Dr. Roger Jun 9 2006, 12:44 AM

this is what's in there now....

a chevy truck starter with alloy adaptor plate to rotate starter a bit and space it back off the transaxle.

i installed the spacer back on this starter to limit the starter gear "throw" and it still sticks soooooooo
i need a new one. time for an upgrade. oh yea', i tried a new soldenoid too..... nothing helped.


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Posted by: GWN7 Jun 9 2006, 12:46 AM

I have this one http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/PORSCHE-911-MINI-STARTER-ALSO-PORSCHE-912-914- 930_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33576QQihZ019QQitemZ8072561917QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZ
WDVW

works good, fast shipping

Posted by: Dr. Roger Jun 9 2006, 12:57 AM

Bruce, is your adaptor setup the same as mine???

Posted by: wbergtho Jun 9 2006, 01:19 AM

I got mine of E-Bay. It is a rebuilt unit...works great! I think it was about $110

Bill

Posted by: GWN7 Jun 9 2006, 01:22 AM

QUOTE(Dr. Roger @ Jun 8 2006, 11:57 PM) *

Bruce, is your adaptor setup the same as mine???



Yes, it looks the same Kennedy/Renegade one?

Posted by: wbergtho Jun 9 2006, 01:27 AM

Hey Dr. Roger,

How do the twinkling lights of SFO look on a fine summer night?
I remember you said you live close to the Golden Gate bridge. Wish I could spend a weekend there again with the wife...beautiful city!

Bill

Posted by: propricer Jun 9 2006, 08:17 AM

QUOTE(wbergtho @ Jun 9 2006, 12:27 AM) *

Hey Dr. Roger,

How do the twinkling lights of SFO look on a fine summer night?
I remember you said you live close to the Golden Gate bridge. Wish I could spend a weekend there again with the wife...beautiful city!

Bill


Bought the $109 special off of ebay ... after the 10th start, it literally disintegrated and I had to pull the transmission to get all the pieces out. Cost me a new ring gear, time & money of pulling the transmission and, of course, a new starter.

Manufacturer refunded my money with no hassle and tried to square the deal but not to my satisfaction ... I wanted him to put a notice in his ads to not use the starter in a V8 application.

Problem is that the front dog gear is not one solid piece and will not tolerate heavy torque. Suggest you go with an SR68X or the one from Performance Products.

If interested, I have detailed pix.

Good luck ... ed.ducey@gmail.com

Posted by: aircooledboy Jun 9 2006, 10:44 AM

Funny you should ask. I had the pleasure of having my starter rebuilt just Monday. dry.gif The Renegade unit is actually a stock Mitsubishi unit with a billit adapter plate screwed to the front. I wasn't that happy that the thing crapped out after 3 years of 6months/year driving, but I was happy that the rebuilder had the parts on hand due to it being a stock unit, so I only spent $50, and had it back 4 hours later.

Renegade gets a pretty good chunk o'cash for the starter ($239), and the mitsu unit is only about $125, but without that adapter plate, you are screwed. $100/ unit for the R&D seems reasonable to me, I'd just get it from Renegade. confused24.gif

Posted by: skline Jun 9 2006, 12:33 PM

I think mine is an IMI unit. I got it with an engine I bought a few years back and it seems to work just fine. It looks like the one on Ebay. I have had it for a few years now and never had a problem

Posted by: Dr. Roger Jun 9 2006, 04:22 PM

QUOTE(wbergtho @ Jun 9 2006, 12:27 AM) *

Hey Dr. Roger,

How do the twinkling lights of SFO look on a fine summer night?
I remember you said you live close to the Golden Gate bridge. Wish I could spend a weekend there again with the wife...beautiful city!

Bill


Hey Bill,
I can't really see "The City" from my house. If I walk down to the water I get a great view of Marin County, Angel Island, and parts north. =-) Point Pinole is in the way of San Fran.

I was just up at "The Wall" on Grizzly Peak Blvd. in Berkeley hills. Now that's a view of San Fran! Warm summer nights make the lights shimmer and that warm breeze coming from below is inspiring.

Looks like I'll give the Ebay starter a try and I'll cross my fingers... =-)
Any problems and I'll report findings back to the limited liability corporation. LOL

Posted by: Andyrew Jun 9 2006, 05:18 PM

I have a high tq starter...

Oddly enough at my flaps, a guy said it looked just like a toyota starter... we put them side by side, and the gear size was the only difference....

Andrew

I've always had it crank good for me.

Posted by: wbergtho Jun 9 2006, 08:23 PM

Andyrew,

Interesting...the Toyota starter looks exactly the same with the exception of the bendix gear? Hmmm....If a guy could get his hands on the correct gear and hopefully install it properly....you might be able to produce your own for much less....however, $109 on Ebay solves all your problems I guess.

So far so good with my Ebay starter. I've been having good luck with it...time will tell.

Bill

Posted by: Andyrew Jun 10 2006, 12:24 AM

Ya, the starter was about 80 bucks...

I wont really bother with "reproducing" it...

I'll be using a stock v8 starter with my 915 setup.. so I might go lightweight.

Posted by: GS Guy Jun 10 2006, 05:38 AM

Guy on The Samba has the "real" IMI starters for a buck-fifty. Best price I've seen for the real thing. Not much more than the "off-shore" version from ebay....

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=105487

Jeff

Posted by: HIPERFORMANCEUSA Jul 31 2006, 09:54 PM

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QUOTE(propricer @ Jun 9 2006, 07:17 AM) *

QUOTE(wbergtho @ Jun 9 2006, 12:27 AM) *

Hey Dr. Roger,

How do the twinkling lights of SFO look on a fine summer night?
I remember you said you live close to the Golden Gate bridge. Wish I could spend a weekend there again with the wife...beautiful city!

Bill


Bought the $109 special off of ebay ... after the 10th start, it literally disintegrated and I had to pull the transmission to get all the pieces out. Cost me a new ring gear, time & money of pulling the transmission and, of course, a new starter.

Manufacturer refunded my money with no hassle and tried to square the deal but not to my satisfaction ... I wanted him to put a notice in his ads to not use the starter in a V8 application.

Problem is that the front dog gear is not one solid piece and will not tolerate heavy torque. Suggest you go with an SR68X or the one from Performance Products.

If interested, I have detailed pix.

Good luck ... ed.ducey@gmail.com

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I'm the mfg. of the one Ed bought. Ed doesn't finish telling the story of the replacement unit I sent him. I sent him an original IMI which has a thinner "dog ear" than mine. Yes, I refunded him his money because i felt bad for him, but after he tried putting the screws to me for more money, i realized this was more of a con than a legitimate problem. My starter is proven in the field for years. smiley_notworthy.gif

Posted by: HIPERFORMANCEUSA Jul 31 2006, 09:56 PM

QUOTE(GS Guy @ Jun 10 2006, 04:38 AM) *

Guy on The Samba has the "real" IMI starters for a buck-fifty. Best price I've seen for the real thing. Not much more than the "off-shore" version from ebay....

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=105487

Jeff

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Hi,
Not an off-shore unit. Those don't last. Mine is Original Nippondenso with heat treated material. Better than IMI for the buck. smiley_notworthy.gif

Posted by: propricer Jul 31 2006, 10:39 PM

QUOTE(HIPERFORMANCEUSA @ Jul 31 2006, 08:56 PM) *

QUOTE(GS Guy @ Jun 10 2006, 04:38 AM) *

Guy on The Samba has the "real" IMI starters for a buck-fifty. Best price I've seen for the real thing. Not much more than the "off-shore" version from ebay....

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=105487

Jeff

dead horse.gif
Hi,
Not an off-shore unit. Those don't last. Mine is Original Nippondenso with heat treated material. Better than IMI for the buck. smiley_notworthy.gif


If I was trying to con you and make money, why would I return the brand new $ 150 starter that you insisted I keep at no charge ... at my own shipping expense. Yup, that sure is the way people try to extort others !!!

Posted by: neo914-6 Aug 1 2006, 12:28 AM

I like my Renegade starter ut have only started the car ~dozen times so far... biggrin.gif

I initially ran a 10GA wire to power it and smoked it, LOL! laugh.gif


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Posted by: Dr. Roger Aug 1 2006, 01:05 AM

felix, you are a wild man.... LOL 10GA???

Feedback on the Ebay mini-starter:

the ebay special is working like a champ and turns the 9.5/1 compression SBC over quickly and without hesitation.

i take Bebe out about 4-5 days a week and have >100 starts on it. no problems at all.


Posted by: rktmn247 Aug 1 2006, 01:21 AM

[i take Bebe out about 4-5 days a week and have >100 starts on it. no problems at all.
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Time for you to make a new in-car vid! LOL

Love your car and would really like to see some more of it! Keep up the good work! beer.gif

Posted by: John G Aug 1 2006, 10:39 AM

I bought the one on ebay titled PORSCHE 911 MINI STARTER ALSO 912 / 914 / 930 IMI

Seller's name is highperformanceusa.

Price was $119 shipped.

Shipping was EXTREMELY fast, and the starter works great!

John

Posted by: turboman808 Aug 1 2006, 11:55 AM

QUOTE(John G @ Aug 1 2006, 08:39 AM) *

I bought the one on ebay titled PORSCHE 911 MINI STARTER ALSO 912 / 914 / 930 IMI

Seller's name is highperformanceusa.

Price was $119 shipped.

Shipping was EXTREMELY fast, and the starter works great!

John


Just bought the same one for my 6. I hopes it works well.

Posted by: cobra94563 Aug 1 2006, 01:00 PM

ME too, for a v8 application..see how it works!

Posted by: Dr. Roger Aug 1 2006, 01:39 PM

[quote name='rktmn247' date='Aug 1 2006, 12:21 AM' post='742788']
[i take Bebe out about 4-5 days a week and have >100 starts on it. no problems at all.
[/quote]



Time for you to make a new in-car vid! LOL

Love your car and would really like to see some more of it! Keep up the good work! beer.gif
[/quote]


Wow, thanks. =-)

I will record more video probably this weekend. I had to take her out last night to get some tune up parts (silicone plug wires do not like hot headers) =-P


now i'm kinda' thinking i should have installed one of my backup tranny's and tried to blow it up rather that install my flipped H new tranny.

I'll post it fer shure! driving.gif

Posted by: cobra94563 Aug 1 2006, 01:43 PM

how hard was it to flip the H gear in the tranny or how much$ if you had it done?

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