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Posted by: rmital Jun 17 2006, 08:16 PM

....today was a great start to something that could become habit forming. We have been granted access to a shop for Saturday/Sunday wrenching get-togethers. Hopefully this could be a monthly happening.



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Posted by: rmital Jun 17 2006, 08:17 PM

Plenty of room and lift time.......


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Posted by: rmital Jun 17 2006, 08:18 PM

this place is heaven....lots of room to breath....


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Posted by: rmital Jun 17 2006, 08:21 PM

today we had a nice crowd:

i love porsche - Aaron
nycchef - Rich
ptravnic - Pete
Leo Imperial
and me Ray Mital

Today's mission, valve adjustment on chef's teener.....


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Posted by: wertygrog Jun 17 2006, 08:22 PM

cool! Let me know if you need a spare wrench monkey this summer!

Brent (in SE MA)

Posted by: rmital Jun 17 2006, 08:23 PM

Pete's taking the lead on this one....explaining how to get right up there in that tight space.....


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Posted by: rmital Jun 17 2006, 08:25 PM

this guy is good.....


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Posted by: rmital Jun 17 2006, 08:26 PM

Chef's car spent most of the day on the lift....once we finished the valves, replaced the fuel pump....


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Posted by: rmital Jun 17 2006, 08:28 PM

Pete's car waited patiently......


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Posted by: rmital Jun 17 2006, 08:30 PM

...while Aaron's 924 sunned itself out front.


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Posted by: rmital Jun 17 2006, 08:31 PM

Last but not least...my wounded 914 watched on the side lines. We're all thinking winter "group" project, getting it back on the road.


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Posted by: rmital Jun 17 2006, 08:34 PM

another view....probably not as bad as thought....well...maybe....


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Posted by: rmital Jun 17 2006, 08:36 PM

I'll bump this thread the next time we plan on getting together....all wrench monkey's welcome.

Posted by: turboman808 Jun 17 2006, 08:42 PM

Dam wish I knew I would have came down. I need to do header wrap and just don't feel like laying on my back in the driveway. A lift would be nice.

Guys got to let me know!!!

Where was this anyways?

Posted by: rmital Jun 17 2006, 08:45 PM

Lyndhurst NJ...only about 20 or 30 minutes from you. let you know next time...probably in a couple weeks...if not next Sunday.

Posted by: nycchef Jun 17 2006, 09:17 PM

thanks to ray. pete.drew, leo and movie time cars for a great day and a great place to work finally my 914 demons are really on the run. can't wait for the next one.

Posted by: Rand Jun 17 2006, 09:46 PM

This is the cool stuff. More of what this club is made of. Thanks gang.

Of course, this photo is my fave....

Nice.

Posted by: drewvw Jun 17 2006, 09:59 PM

nice job representing for the north eastern crowd! You guys keep that going and I will definitely come down one weekend to say hey....



chef, how's she run now?

Posted by: ptravnic Jun 18 2006, 08:57 AM

What a good time! - Thanks Ray & Chef for organizing. Lots of good things can come out of that space. I've never had access to a lift before so that is quite a treat.

The green monster is def going to have to be put back on the road - especially after looking at the work you did on the longs and the undercarriage. I wish my shell was as solid as that... Hell, a new RF quarter panel, new rear and new rear deck lid and that thing is back to the paint shop!!!

Here's another pic of Chef implementing his newfound valve adjusting knowledge...









Chef - Any probs getting home from where we split off?

Posted by: ptravnic Jun 18 2006, 09:59 AM

And here's a pic of the new puppy.... His name is "The Captain".

Posted by: dtravni Jun 18 2006, 10:51 AM

"Northeast wrenching, Let's make this a habit.....

Dear "Northeast wenchers" - did you mean "habit" -or- ... (ahem) ...
ADDICTION ???

Seriously, it looks like youse guys got somethin' super goin' =
DO-DO-DO keep it up - but for 1500 mi (i'm stuck out here in the
interior) i'd have been there & lovin' it. just a suggestion, RMITAL` - "Tyke"
has to feed his putt-putt (known as "Piglet") a steady diet of octane booster
- looks to me like an investment in Pepto Bismal might be in order
to keep this unfortunate green thingie happy ...

: )

dtravni

Posted by: JPB Jun 18 2006, 11:17 AM

This very thing happened to me last winter. I started the car and a man got stuck in the cooling fan! Damn street bums!

Posted by: i love porsche Jun 18 2006, 09:59 PM

this was tons of fun being there on saturday, even though progress on my car has been practically non existent, i just loved being able to do SOMETHING...no matter whos car it was...we definetly need to make a habit out of this...

Posted by: type11969 Jun 19 2006, 10:52 AM

I'll definitely try to make it next time. What about before/after this:

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=53265&st=20

Anyone actually know if the above was made "official"?

-Chris

Posted by: Leo Imperial Jun 19 2006, 11:47 AM

Great to see you guys.
Sorry I couldn't stay long.
Not bad for the first round, but not enough
We can fix that.
It was nice to see all that rust in one place

Posted by: ptravnic Jun 19 2006, 01:19 PM

Leo - Can you post a couple of the pics you took?

Also, the "new" fuel pump we swapped turned out to be pumping 70psi!!! Turns out it was a 911 pump - we musta swapped the things 3 or 4 times before checking the pressure and then realizing the old one was not getting a good ground. We were a bunch of monkey's scratching our heads... but then we rigged a lil copper wire between the bracket and the pump itself to ensure a good ground and got the car back on the road...

Posted by: i love porsche Jun 19 2006, 01:20 PM

yes chris, im still up for the july first get together at the whiskey cafe...how about a sign in here

Posted by: Leo Imperial Jun 19 2006, 01:30 PM

I'll try to post them tonight from home.
I knew that pump didn't look right. It was way bigger than the original.
Did the car run better when it left or when it came in?

Posted by: ptravnic Jun 19 2006, 01:38 PM

Rich was having a bit of trouble getting power in the first few minutes of our drive toward the freeway but it cleared up and he seemed A-OK up to where we split off (I had to run to Home Depot - a man's job is never done). He's still having some idle/tuning issues. Thats not much of a surprise though being that it was "tuned" w/o having the valves adjusted. He prob just needs to start from the beginning & get a dwell on there to adjust the timing, then go through the FI pieces one by one to test each is working correctly. I tried to get the idle to behave by adjusting the air screw and moving the knob on the ECU but those are just band aid fixes to keep him from stalling out and should get him moving for the time being. Bring on Paul Brad Anders' D-Jet writeup!!

-pt

Posted by: type11969 Jun 19 2006, 01:43 PM

Hopefully it is more than just you and me Aaron considering neither of us have a working 914!

What do you think about doing some wrenching before or after the Whiskey Cafe (both?) at this garage? Or are they far apart?

-Chris

Posted by: jet1 Jun 21 2006, 07:00 PM

Nice to see some northeast people get together! If you guys keep it up I may just have to take a drive down.

Posted by: jet1 Jun 24 2006, 01:34 PM

Ray,
keep us posted on the next wrenching get together. If I can make it down I will bring a fender I cut off a parts car. I also have a rear section that is in poor condition, but you may be able to use part of it for the trunk repair.

Keith


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Posted by: Leo Imperial Jun 25 2006, 06:34 AM

Better late than never.
Here are some pics from the first monthly wrench.
Got a nice group picture


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Posted by: rmital Jun 25 2006, 08:13 AM

Excellent Keith...the fender would be great!
I hoping for July 1st.

Posted by: jet1 Jun 25 2006, 10:24 AM

I can't make it down for the 1st. I wanted to come wrench and go to the whiskey cafe, but I allready made plans to go to Cape Cod for the weekend. The next time after the 1st I will drive down for sure. So keep up the wrenching and I will see you guys one of these days.

BTW I will check and see if I have any of the front headlight parts that you will need also.

Keith

Posted by: rmital Jun 30 2006, 11:02 AM

getting together tomorrow, Saturday July 1...about noon.
nycchef fuel pump relocation.

reply to this thread if you could make it or have any questions about location.

I check in later on this afternoon......

Posted by: turboman808 Jun 30 2006, 11:48 AM

Yeah I just need directions and even better a google map link!

Posted by: Dr Evil Jun 30 2006, 12:02 PM

I am gonna try to make it to one of these towards the end of July if you have on then.

Posted by: ptravnic Jul 12 2006, 12:51 PM

Any chance for this w'end?

Ray - any chance of getting some garage time this w'end?

Posted by: rmital Jul 12 2006, 12:58 PM

...I'm finding out now...or waiting to hear back Movie Time's schedule. Soprano's started shooting again, so they're actually pretty busy over there....welding rigging on cars....

..which probably wouldn't be bad, we'd just have to let them have priority over space and lift...since it's their place...

I would probably shoot for Sunday morning.

Posted by: ptravnic Jul 12 2006, 01:38 PM

Sunday AM would be groovy.

The nerve of those GENEROUS garage owners getting in the way of us borrowing THEIR space for our recreational purposes... Jeesh!

Posted by: jet1 Jul 12 2006, 05:41 PM

did you guys meet over the weekkend( 8th,9th)? what does the next couple of weekends look like? I know I can't make it this saturday, but sunday might work. how early in the AM are you talking?

When do you guys think you will start body work on the green car?

and

Posted by: ptravnic Jul 13 2006, 05:57 AM

Both of your Q's will have to be answered by Ray. This is just a shameless

Posted by: rmital Jul 13 2006, 11:19 AM

nope....


not this weekend, domestic stuff getting in the way..but hopefully the next weekend or the following we could get some time over at the garage.

jet1...if you bring along the front fender, we could start attacking the green one.

I'll be sure to update the situation next week. PM me if any questions or what day might be better....

Posted by: ptravnic Jul 13 2006, 11:59 AM

Poop!

O well, I'll just have to look fwd to next w'end. I can make either Sat or Sun - prefer AM as opposed to later in the day.

Posted by: i love porsche Jul 13 2006, 12:54 PM

im going on vacation this saturday to next....hope i dont miss anything...

Posted by: turboman808 Jul 19 2006, 06:33 PM

Any chance of wrenching this saturday. Got a few things I'd like to do. Get that header wrap in and install wevo mounts. Then hopefully get that shifter working right.

Oh I got the reverse lockout put in last night. Works really nice. No more nicking reverse in a down shift.

Posted by: ws91420 Jul 19 2006, 08:11 PM

So is that a movie car from Talladega Nights in the background.

Posted by: rmital Jul 19 2006, 08:17 PM

...Sunday morning might be more do'able. Especially if rain is in the forcast. (finishing up the softball season this weekend, then I get my life back)....

Posted by: So.Cal.914 Jul 19 2006, 08:53 PM

I hate when that happens.




Cool of that shop owner to let you guys use his space, a lift can be real handy on a bottem loader.

Posted by: turboman808 Jul 19 2006, 09:06 PM

Ya know I think it is

Posted by: ptravnic Jul 21 2006, 05:46 AM

Shameless

Looks like this w'end may have potential...

Posted by: rmital Jul 22 2006, 01:31 PM

..heading over to "Movie Time Cars" early Sunday morning...about 8:00am. Just a quick session, outa there by noon.

Posted by: turboman808 Jul 22 2006, 01:47 PM

I'm kinda 50/50 on either going autoxing or meeting you there early. I kinda would like to go over the car butreally would like to get better at driving

I think the bolts for the tranny mount bolts may be a bit short. I might want to address that tomorrow. I had to take a washer off one end to get it fully threaded.

Posted by: i love porsche Jul 22 2006, 02:25 PM

ill be at church from 8-12....next time...

Posted by: Dominic L Jul 22 2006, 04:52 PM

I vote autocross! Ya know Vince and I will be @ Giants stadium for a Sunday Drive!!

Posted by: turboman808 Jul 22 2006, 05:42 PM

Yeah I probably will. I think I should be doing a little better this time. Suspension feels a bit better and I got wider tires. Still not running race tires though. I'll wait til next year and get the big baller fiske or kinesis wheels with advans or some shit. (although I was ofered a raise at work and I could have got them but I turned it down)

Posted by: Dominic L Jul 22 2006, 07:00 PM

Cool. See you tomorrow. And if you still feel the need to wrench, Giants stadium is only a few minutes from Lyndhurst! Vince is closing in on me! He beat me once @ Bridgewater and was within 1 tenth of a second of my time this past Sunday @ the PCA AX. (Note to self: GO FASTER!) No more driving tips for him.

Posted by: turboman808 Jul 23 2006, 03:34 PM

Hey you guys should have stopped by the autox. You could have watched me spin my car like a top all afternoon.


I kinda forgot how to drive the car and tried to drive it like my civic. Didn't work to well. First corner I did the biggest spinout ever!!!

Posted by: ptravnic Jul 24 2006, 05:28 AM

Things took a bit longer than anticipated. The screw that holds the points in would not go back in - somehow the first couple threads got stripped when unscrewing it... After about 45 mins of fussing we (Ray & I) decided to rob the green car...

We both had places to get to after noon so about 12:30 we wrapped things up and headed out.

Ray's car = damn nice!

Posted by: rmital Jul 24 2006, 07:04 AM

Thanks for the help Pete....

amazing how different the car performs by making that minor change in the dwell angle. (from 54^ to 44^)

I going to post elsewhere..but if anyone knows the size/type of the screw that holds in the points, please reply. Need to replace the one we stole from my 1.7L.




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Posted by: jet1 Jul 31 2006, 05:51 PM

You guys going to try and meet any time soon? this weekend or next? I have been very busy, but things seem to be calming down.

Posted by: ptravnic Jul 31 2006, 07:00 PM

Seems we might be meeting up sometime in the next few weeks (not this w'end tho b/c I'm outta town) because I burned a valve and need to put on a fresh pair of heads. The heads will be out of the shop and ready to roll sometime next week.


The job (if I can get garage space in the area which chef may be able to sort out sorted out) will consist of removing heater equip, removing muffler/headers, disconnect speedo & clutch cable, disconnect shifter, disconnect FI, drop engine, replace heads.

While the engine is dropped, I'm going to replace a few seals that may be causing a leak (oil seals, main crankshaft seal, etc).

Installation is the reverse of removal...heh, heh, heh

It's a lot of work - possibly too much for a day but we'll see. I'm comfortable with all the steps up to replacing the heads. May need some expert advice. Also, a local engine guru would be nice in sorting out the oil leak. I'll have all possible seals & gaskets on hand so this should be able to get sorted.


More to come...
-pt

Posted by: nycchef Jul 31 2006, 07:24 PM

sounds like dangerous work. maybe we should try to have a dr. there in case one of us gets hurt.

Posted by: type11969 Jul 31 2006, 08:16 PM

Do you know if the stock head gaskets are still in your engine? Are you planning on re-using them? I'm on the lapping cyls to head bandwagon (no gasket), I've done that with the last few T1 and t4 engines I've built with good results. Of course if you ditch the gasket you will have to shim the base of the cyl. Anyway, hopefully I'll be able to make this next one, but this month isn't looking good. I'd love to wrench on a 914 that has the potential to drive in the near future!

-Chris

Posted by: ptravnic Jul 31 2006, 08:36 PM

No stock gaskets. The lapping method might be the way to go but I think there were some thin gaskets that were used when it was rebuilt 4yrs ago along w/a permatex (I think?) type of sealant. This is where my experience lacks. You knowledge would be a great help. Maybe we can work around your schedule if your willing to get in the mix. All this is at least a few weeks away.

-pt

Posted by: i love porsche Jul 31 2006, 08:53 PM

sounds like fun! ill be sure to be there

and in the near future we gotta get my teener on the lift and strip the underside and coat it...to get one step closer =]

Posted by: Dr Evil Jul 31 2006, 09:19 PM

I may be able to make it and help. I have done this job a few times for others and myself.

Posted by: type11969 Aug 1 2006, 05:31 PM

Yeah, I'd like to "get in the mix", I've been disappointed that I've missed the past NE events, but this summer has been pretty crazy. Its looking like the next available weekend for me is probably either late august or september.

You might try to find some cyl base gaskets that are the thickness of the stock head gaskets, if we are going to try to get this done all in one day or one weekend, these gaskets can always be thrown in on a stock engine to ensure that the piston won't collide with a valve or that the CR won't be too high. Otherwise, deck height measuring, head ccing, and parts ordering might delay the process. If we have the garage time, it would be worth it to do this anyway though. Just some thoughts.

-Chris

Posted by: ptravnic Aug 1 2006, 07:36 PM

Good points Chris. I'll make sure to have different sized gaskets (shims) on hand when we get down and dirty. They're cheap enough so I'll get a variety. The w'end of 26-Aug is a tentative date... More to come in the next couple days.

-pt

Posted by: ptravnic Aug 3 2006, 12:57 PM

For those following this thread, I've posted a new one for a fun engine drop & head replacement...

The subject title reads:

"Northeast Wrenching Revisited"