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Posted by: byndbad914 Jul 6 2006, 05:32 PM

Watching "80s Tech" or something to that effect on History Channel last night and one part of the segment they talk about the DeLorean. There was a quick shot of a photo showing him in his office and on the wall there was the design for the DeLorean. But in that same split second my eye caught another partial poster on the wall of a skeleton schematic of what I swear was a 914 (showing the outline of the car with the engine and transaxle darkened in)!

Anybody know if there was ever any mention of the 914 as being a basis of the design thought for that car? Just thought it was odd to see that poster (saw the tail end with the mid engine and the sail panel which I consider a dead give-away to a 914)....

Not sure that I want to link the two... but then again they were both underpowered sporty cars... he may have copied that characteristic too well

Posted by: redshift Jul 6 2006, 05:40 PM

No.

The connection probably has something to do with that horrible Giugiaro thing called Tapiro that is a 1969 DeLorean.



I am sick

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Posted by: jasons Jul 6 2006, 05:46 PM

I saw that thing on the History Channel too. I had no Idea you could completely rebuild a Delorean out of new parts today! It was amazing to see all the original body parts on shelves.

From their site....

Posted by: byndbad914 Jul 6 2006, 06:04 PM

Holy crap! That is like a Pantera/Mangusta/ mixed with a 914/6. It does explain why the poster of the 914/6 was on the wall tho'. What a trip... that basically looks just like a DMC.

So many of the European cars in the 70s looked alike. There is a BMW in the mid-70s that to this day I will still mistake for a Pantera if I see one on the track.

Posted by: lapuwali Jul 6 2006, 06:30 PM

That would be the M1.



This is a Pantera.



The flying wedge shape was fairly limited, and you're right that they do all tend to look alike. The Maserati Merak, for example:



Or the Lotus Esprit, or the Maserati Bora, or the...

Posted by: morphenspectra Jul 6 2006, 07:33 PM

it was a fiero

Posted by: Pat Garvey Jul 6 2006, 08:07 PM

Umm, so what?

The Delorean was created by megalamaniac (read "On a Clear Day You Can See General Motors") to see what this guy was about. Delorean may his reputation with Potiac division on the coattails of others.

The Delorean car was/is a piece of quality control heartbreaks and poor quality mechanicals. In short, it is/always has been a piece of crap! If I hurt the fealings of owners.....so what, get a usable car!

To put a Delorean in the same context of a Pantera (crude, but awesome) or a Merak (OK, at best) is like putting a Yugo (don't get me started on Malcom Briklin) up against a VW GTI.

I feel better now - vented!

Posted by: BMartin914 Jul 6 2006, 08:35 PM

Wow Pat, tell us how you REALLY feel!

Posted by: Pat Garvey Jul 6 2006, 08:44 PM

Sorry! As you can tell, I'm not a fan of John Delorean.

I am also, as ALL of my friends will tell you, very opinionated.

It is my belief that the likes of John Delorean & Malcom Bricklin, have bilked a lot of people out of good money based on their "made" reputations. They both screwed a lot of investors out of a lot off oney (shame on them) as well. I'll shut up now.

Posted by: GeorgeRud Jul 6 2006, 08:46 PM

Hey, can the man who first imported Subaru 360s be all there anyway?

Posted by: SGB Jul 6 2006, 08:53 PM

Unfortunately thats pretty true about the Delorian, I think. Feeble renault engine, way heavy, hard to get in. A lot of compromises were made to get it on the street- I don't remember what else. I think that became a technique with Mr D until he compromised too much...

I've always thought a pantera was like the ultimate kit car!

The M-1 was in a league above these. Closer to the pantera already really assembled. The were finished Group sumthins, made just enough streetable ones to campaign the racers, but I think the series evaporated before they got competative. Sometimes they ran LeMans as GT-2.