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Posted by: toon1 Jul 7 2006, 04:39 PM
I'm going to adjust the valves tomorrow, 1st time with the motor in. Do I need to remove the HE's??
Posted by: Cap'n Krusty Jul 7 2006, 04:47 PM
Only if your a 10th degree black belt masochist. Use my vlave adjustment method mentioned in the "Classic Threads".
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=28758
Have fun! The Cap'n
Posted by: Aaron Cox Jul 7 2006, 04:51 PM
have fun!
small hands help
Posted by: elwood-914 Jul 7 2006, 05:00 PM
have fun!
small hands help
You know what they say about small hands.....Aaron
Posted by: toon1 Jul 7 2006, 05:02 PM
from the have fun comment I gather it's not but I have to get er done!
dang!! I got big hands, oh well you know what they say about big hands and feet??(if only it were trueLOL)
have fun!
small hands help
Posted by: elwood-914 Jul 7 2006, 05:09 PM
Piece of cake. When I am planning a valve adjustment I put it up the night before on the ramps so I do not have to start the engine in the morning. Takes about 20 to 40 minutes depending how much I screw around. Seems awkward at first but you get the hang of it rather quickly. Do the Capt's and there is an article on the Pelican site too.
Posted by: toon1 Jul 7 2006, 05:26 PM
20 to 40 min?? that's pretty quick, seems like it would take longer. I will find out tomorrow
Piece of cake. When I am planning a valve adjustment I put it up the night before on the ramps so I do not have to start the engine in the morning. Takes about 20 to 40 minutes depending how much I screw around. Seems awkward at first but you get the hang of it rather quickly. Do the Capt's and there is an article on the Pelican site too.
Posted by: Rand Jul 7 2006, 05:27 PM
Keep some pocket change handy.... A coin is handy up/under there for turning the adjuster in that short space.
Posted by: Travis Neff Jul 7 2006, 05:30 PM
Keep some pocket change handy.... A coin is handy up/under there for turning the adjuster in that short space.
Neat trick, I will give that a shot next time I do my valves. Even with a stubby driver it is pretty cramped trying to lock down the nut and hold the adjuster at the same time.
Posted by: Aaron Cox Jul 7 2006, 05:53 PM
a penny and an offset sloted screwdriver are your friends...
with a header and cro-mo pushrods, it takes me 7-10 minutes 
Posted by: Cap'n Krusty Jul 7 2006, 05:59 PM
If yopu use a 1/4" tip screwdriver, or even a 3/8 tip, between 12 and 18" long, you can get right in there from the outside. All 8 of 'em. Trust me, I've been doing this for 33 years. An offset wrench is nice, too.
One like this (sorry for the crude attempt at drawing!)
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Mine's an old SK, but I'm sure there are others. The Cap'n
Edit: The picture didn't work! Oh, well .............
Posted by: anthony Jul 7 2006, 06:07 PM
I highly recommend the Pelican article for a 1st timer. The turning the wheel from underneath the car trick is a great time saver.
http://www.pelicanparts.com/techarticles/914_valve_adjust/914_valve_adjust.htm
Posted by: Cap'n Krusty Jul 7 2006, 06:36 PM
I highly recommend the Pelican article for a 1st timer. The turning the wheel from underneath the car trick is a great time saver.
http://www.pelicanparts.com/techarticles/914_valve_adjust/914_valve_adjust.htm
Time saver? Only takes 3 times as long as my way. Even with all the valves out, I can do them in 10 minutes, covers on to covers on. Of course, I've done a zillion, and I use a lift. My way is just simpler. Period. The Cap'n
Posted by: anthony Jul 7 2006, 07:39 PM
The version posted in the classic thread somewhat requires that people know what they are doing. I just think the Pelican article with all of it's step by step instructions and purty pictures is better for a first timer.
Posted by: BigDBass Jul 7 2006, 08:47 PM
I have no idea when my valves were last adjusted. The PO had never even heard of valve adjustment. I'm in denial cuz I'm antidimated* intimidated. 
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antidimated? 
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*Edit:
antidimated?And now you see why
Posted by: SGB Jul 7 2006, 09:09 PM
You do want to be sure you have solid lifters, not hydrualic ones like me. Hydro lifters are ~supposed~ to be set & forget, and thats pretty true, but it is kinda annoying to get 'em all screwed up using the traditional valve adjust method. So now is they question "how do I know if they are solid or hydraulic?" and as far as I know the best indicator is the use of a spring in the center part of the rocker assembly holding the valves in place on hydraulic lifter conversions. Another apparent characteristic is that the hydro lifters will compress a little when pressed on. This topic has been addressed here and at pelicanparts pretty completely.
Posted by: scottb Jul 7 2006, 09:24 PM
first time i did it was about 30 minutes....
did it again last tuesday with the headers off in about 10.
i really like dave hunts explanation of the procedure. really clicked for me. your mileage may vary....
cheers,
scott
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=52227&hl=valve
Posted by: Dr Evil Jul 8 2006, 12:00 AM
As far as screw drivers to use, the tiny (about 1" total length) 1/4" tipped screw drivers in the buckets at Harbor Freight for $.49 would probably work quite well here.
Just my $.02
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