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Posted by: thomasotten Jul 18 2006, 09:39 AM

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Porsche-914-Windshield-Frame- Seal_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ42611QQihZ018QQitemZ280006927904QQrdZ1QQsspagena
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Posted by: cooltimes Jul 18 2006, 09:59 AM

Dumber than dumb is what they be,
You know that bids so stupid won't come from Tennessee
There has to be a reason for dumbness like that
the answer is pure and simple, for 914 owners like me. you see
they bid it higher themselves
and end up with a rubber they hoped to use on you and me.

MikeCool
Oakfield TN

Posted by: Vacca Rabite Jul 18 2006, 10:27 AM

Is that the fabled NLA targa seal?

wow

Zach

Posted by: SLITS Jul 18 2006, 10:30 AM

It certainly is Ollie.......................

Posted by: boxstr Jul 18 2006, 10:34 AM

ejconrad has a very good friend in warrenwardcox.
Check the bid history.
CCLINEBAYORMYWAY

Posted by: tdgray Jul 18 2006, 11:14 AM

I'm expecting heywoodjablowme to show up anytime and bid it up to a cool grr.

That's F'in nuts

If they are going to go for that much, I'll get my Uncle to extruded some in his factory, sell them and retire.

Posted by: GeorgeRud Jul 18 2006, 03:13 PM

I wonder if someone's trying to finish up a car for the upcoming PCA Parade in Portland? Can't see another reason to go that high otherwise. If they are that much, even Porsche AG might start making them again!

Posted by: boboli914@att.net Jul 18 2006, 03:24 PM

A fool and his money!

Posted by: Brad Roberts Jul 18 2006, 04:59 PM

Guy's,

all it takes is a phone call:

"Hey Andy, bid this up for me"

"Hey Britain, bid this up for me"

When someone bites that is legit.. sell it too them.

I dont believe some of the HIGH pricing we see. I call bullshit.

I have been called multiple times to help bid something up.

A girl here at work this week asked me to bid on a motorcycle her husband is trying to sell.

B

Posted by: jimkelly Jul 18 2006, 06:25 PM

the seller seems legit - see his description ----

"This is the seal that goes between the window frame and the Targa top and vent windows. The Porsche part number is 914.563.039. I purchased this in the 80's and it has been sitting in a box ever since. It is in new condition and feels that way. New from a dealer this seal is over $275."

It is odd that all the bidders have decent scores with ebay??

Posted by: George H. Jul 18 2006, 06:36 PM

i don't know if it is bad bidding warren and the high bidder have both been buying teener stuff.

they probably came by here noticed all of the want for this and figure it is there only hope.

can probably find a junk car with a descent one for half the cash, but........

Posted by: watsonrx13 Jul 18 2006, 07:21 PM

This is very interesting. I have a NOS brand new windshield rubber seal.

Now, what would you pay to purchase this NLA seal? I'm not trying to have a bidding war, just trying to gauge what the 'average' 914 owner would pay for the seal....

-- Rob

Posted by: poohsan Jul 18 2006, 09:46 PM

While everyone is discussing this I’ll take the opportunity to ask...

What are my options to find this seal or all of the cabin seals? I literally have scraps left for most of the seals. Are there any shops that sell reproductions?

For now I’m willing to take anyone’s discarded used seals.

-Arron

Posted by: 914Sixer Jul 18 2006, 09:57 PM

Some of this stuff has gotten out of hand. I tried to buy a car here in San Antonio. People seen some of the prices on Ebay and they think they have a f------ gold mine. Appearently there are lots of desperate people out there or full blown idiots!!!!!!

Posted by: PRS914-6 Jul 18 2006, 10:07 PM

Be patient. Porsche HAS NOT discontinued it yet. It is only unavailable at this moment. It could be available tomorrow or 3 months from now. My suggestion is to order one and get on a back order with a Porsche dealer. The demand may get Porsche to expedite a little better.....I have one on back order and Porsche distributes back orders based on dates.

Posted by: Thack Jul 18 2006, 10:12 PM

I might consider having an extrusion mold made and make a few of these. If I had a new one I would sell it to the next highest bidder, if he will buy it.
Hey Sixer, I'm going to sell my car soon. I'll shoot pics or give you any info you want.

Posted by: boxstr Jul 18 2006, 11:08 PM

Currently $710. 1 hour 45 mins left in the auction. The new Saratoga top.
CCLINBIDMEUPSCOTTY

Posted by: watsonrx13 Jul 19 2006, 05:00 AM

I've had a number of requests to purchase the seal that I have, but I obviously misrepresented myself. I'm not trying to sell it, just trying to gauge the price someone would be willing to spend to have one. The reason is that there are several very creative individuals on this board and if they knew a ball park figure of price and quantities then they could calculate whether it would be a good business decission to produce them. I remember that SLITS was trying to get the OEM in Germany to produce some more of these seals, but he was/is currently unsucessful. If you would like to post your price here, it might help anyone thinking of producing or importing this seal for the whole 914 community.

-- Rob

Posted by: thomasotten Jul 19 2006, 06:16 AM

I talked with George at AA two days ago about their repro seal in the works, and he said he had 400 preorders. Still 6-7 weeks away. I'm affraid a repro would just tie me over, or a decent used one. Anyone got a decent used one? Mine is torn up badly on the top and hard as a rock. My sides are OK. I need one because I will be painting the car shortly, and the thing needs to come off to spray the windshild frame perfectly.

Posted by: SLITS Jul 19 2006, 07:25 AM

You are correct and I'm still trying. My deposit money is still sitting in Germany. If Porsche makes a run of them, they will be available thru normal channels and if the last price on them was $279, they certainly won't go for less.

If you look carefully at the seal, it appears is is not just one extrusion / profile. It is somewhere between 3 and 5 extrusions / profiles with embedded metal that are glued together. I know little of the process or what is required to make the various profiles. Anybody have the engineering drawings on the seal?

AA says 400 queries and I had somewhere around 60, so there's 500 of the little buggers already.

As for myself, I am really leary of a "repro". Maybe it's because I have bought some AA "repros" and find them less than desireable, but that's another story.

Posted by: tdgray Jul 19 2006, 07:40 AM

Having worked in my Uncle's extrusion plant I know a little about how these seals are "spliced" together. Slits is correct I counted at least four profiles that would have to be done.

That in itself would not be bad but the metal inside would pose a serious problem.

If anyone is serious about making these I can act as a go between through my Uncle's shop. Lot of work though, design etc.

Posted by: Flat VW Jul 19 2006, 08:12 AM

John

Posted by: cassidy_bolger Jul 19 2006, 01:21 PM

I bet the number of interested parties would go way up if it became known that OEM or good repro's are available. I don't need one desperately, but if they were out there I would replace mine.

Posted by: thesey914 Jul 19 2006, 01:52 PM

I have also been told that the factory seals will be available soon. The story that I heard was that there was a batch of dodgy ones that kept tearing in the corner. Porsche has sent them all back to the manufacturer and they'll have to come up with some new ones

Posted by: balljoint Jul 19 2006, 01:59 PM

People often mistake Sea-Lions for Seals.

Posted by: GWN7 Jul 19 2006, 02:12 PM

There are 5 parts to the seal...Main center piece, two corners and two down legs. You can see where they were glued together. As to the corner with the metal inserts, you make the it in two parts, insert the metal piece and glue it together...

Posted by: thesey914 Jul 19 2006, 02:13 PM

theres a joke waiting to happen about blowing a seal....

Posted by: norustscott Jul 19 2006, 02:59 PM

... the mechanic says to the penguin, " looks like you've blown a seal" to which teh penguin replies, naw,just finished an ice cream cone....

Posted by: SLITS Jul 19 2006, 03:31 PM

I've been told that since February and I've been told that the seals were shipping on ___/____, ____/____, _____/____ (you fill in the blanks).

Posted by: JPB Jul 19 2006, 03:32 PM

Now thats a keeper.

Posted by: thesey914 Jul 19 2006, 04:23 PM

Well the supplier I'm using says thats direct from the factory...maybe be some truth.