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Posted by: Headrage Jul 28 2006, 04:12 PM

Finally got my struts in and am trying to do a rough alignment at attach the tie-rods to the steering arm on the strut.

Guess what?

The tie-rods won't come down far enough to get the tie-rod end under the steering arm...



Here's a couple of picks.




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Posted by: Headrage Jul 28 2006, 04:13 PM

another



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Posted by: Brad Roberts Jul 28 2006, 04:14 PM

Lift the tire


Why did you take those off anyway? You should have installed them with the rest of the assembly.



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Posted by: Brad Roberts Jul 28 2006, 04:15 PM

Swing the strut out of the way and screw the ends back on.

Dont forget you can move the steering wheel....


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Posted by: Brad Roberts Jul 28 2006, 04:16 PM

I have NO idea how you got the boot all the way back like that!! Good job!! It is a pain in the ass...


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Posted by: Headrage Jul 28 2006, 04:17 PM

They are new.

What will happen the next time I jack the car up and the suspension is at full extension?

The rod hits here.



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Posted by: Headrage Jul 28 2006, 04:20 PM

The problem I'm having is that the tie-rod won't swing down far enough to get the end under the control arm.

Posted by: Brian_Boss Jul 28 2006, 04:26 PM

If you lift the suspension to get it together, make sure it doesn't break/bend something when it goes back to full droop.

I recently did the turbo tie rods on my otherwise stock suspension and don't remember this being a problem.

Posted by: Aaron Cox Jul 28 2006, 04:34 PM

was on the phone with allan,

he said upward it has 60* of travel, and downward only has about 30 degrees....

i said use the turnbuckle flat on the shaft and rotate the shaft a half turn, now it should pivot 60 down, and 30 deg up

Posted by: Headrage Jul 28 2006, 04:40 PM

Didn't work, It still seems to pivot up farther than it will down.

Found the flat spot on the rod.



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Posted by: Aaron Cox Jul 28 2006, 04:42 PM

then it sounds like you need to get another .5 turns on the rack side, or loosen a half turn...


try this.

loosen the inner side a half turn, then button everything up, then tighten it the half turn....

Posted by: Headrage Jul 28 2006, 04:52 PM

Tried loosening it at the rack.

No luck. It just looks like it's moving farther.

I think they may be the wrong ones...

Posted by: AZ914 Jul 28 2006, 05:10 PM

Huh.. I'd put the end on. This sounds stupid and maybe I just can't tell from the pics but is your steering rack/wheel turned all the way to the other side? Maybe jack up the wheel.. ?

Posted by: Headrage Jul 28 2006, 05:14 PM

Car is in the air and wheel is straight.

Wrong parts definitely.....

Posted by: swood Jul 28 2006, 05:26 PM

Just curious...what parts are wrong? Are there different TTR's?

Posted by: Brad Roberts Jul 28 2006, 05:31 PM

Do you have the spacers in place?

Can you call me?


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Posted by: Brad Roberts Jul 28 2006, 05:43 PM

He has the right parts. He doesnt need the spacers he has in place. He has 911 struts so the spacers are not required.



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Posted by: Brad Roberts Jul 28 2006, 05:43 PM

He has the right parts. He doesnt need the spacers he has in place. He has 911 struts so the spacers are not required.



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Posted by: Headrage Jul 28 2006, 06:37 PM

Success!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yep, spacers were throwing everything off. Pulled them out and voila, worked like a charm.....


Thanks Brad....

Posted by: Brad Roberts Jul 28 2006, 06:40 PM

No problem Allan.

Thanks for sharing your "build" with the 914Club


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Posted by: Headrage Jul 28 2006, 07:02 PM

Filthy but back on all fours....

Mmmm, 5 lug.




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Posted by: anthony Jul 28 2006, 07:30 PM

When do you use the spacers or not use the spacers?

Posted by: Aaron Cox Jul 28 2006, 08:44 PM

brad... uh.. i have the spacers and 911 struts......

Posted by: 914-8 Jul 28 2006, 09:01 PM

I believe there are different Turbo tie rods.

The Turbo cars use a different steering rack than a normal 911.

So there are "Turbo" tie rods that are made to be used with a Turbo steering rack.

And "Turbo" tie rods made to be used with a non-Turbo steering rack.

At least that's what I've read. Feel free to correct if wrong!

Posted by: Dr Evil Jul 28 2006, 09:50 PM

Me too

Posted by: Brando Jul 28 2006, 10:01 PM

I have the spacers and turbo tie rods...

Posted by: JOHNMAN Jul 28 2006, 11:57 PM

What spacers?

Rack spacers for bump steer? 10mm thick ones? I have them in mine with Turbo Tie rods and 911 struts. I had no problems.

It sure looked like his suspension came down a very long way. I don't believe that mine came down that far.

Posted by: Brad Roberts Jul 29 2006, 03:35 AM

OK.

There is ONE part number for the 75-89 930 Turbo Tie Rods:

930.347.322.00

The 930 DOES use a different steering rack (but it uses spacers also)

The 911's up until 1989 use a 914.347.010.06 steering rack.

A 4cyl car with 4 lug struts has to use the spacer or you end up with 3-4 threads in the end of the tie rod (not safe in my book)

The 911 struts have a different arm on the strut tube. It can go either way (with or without) depending on whether or not you want bind in full droop lock to lock. If your dont want bind in that "rare" occasion... then pull the spacers out.


Funny "914-8" your didnt happen to write that did you ??


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Posted by: Eric_Shea Jul 29 2006, 08:39 AM

Koni Struts w/Spacers here.

Spacer that go between the rack and the tie-rod. Not bump steer.