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Posted by: zaphod750 Sep 30 2006, 08:49 PM

It is a sad day....I started poking things with a screwdriver and found that a lot more was bad than I thought. Metal that looked good on the outside turned out to be rotted thru from the inside. The hole itself is not that bad, but the longitudinal is pretty much shot. And somehow the motor mount got rusted thru in some parts. Does anyone even sell a motor mount to replace that bit? I am not agains fabricating. I think I am going to follow Michelko's lead and replace the inner wheelhouse. Anyone have any tips on the motor mount?


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Posted by: Tobra Sep 30 2006, 09:15 PM

Dude, that ain't that bad

Posted by: JOHNMAN Sep 30 2006, 09:17 PM

I want to see a pic taken from much further away. Is the car laying on it's side? Is it on a rotissorie? Where is the floor?

Are you somehow attached to the car? If not, you may consider getting a rust free California tub shipped to you to start with (you may be money ahead doing that).

If you are going to weld this one back together, I wish you the best of luck.

You may want to bolt the suspension points to some sort of jig so they don't move too much when you try to repair the floor and the long. I hope you at least have some door braces bolted in place.

I have seen worse.

Posted by: SirAndy Sep 30 2006, 09:26 PM

QUOTE(JOHNMAN @ Sep 30 2006, 08:17 PM)

Posted by: michelko Oct 1 2006, 02:44 AM

QUOTE(zaphod750 @ Sep 30 2006, 06:49 PM)

Posted by: mihai914 Oct 1 2006, 10:35 AM

Like others have said, the saine solution is to buy a clean tub from the west coast or down south.

If you fall in the insane category, you'll start fixing the car.

What I see as the most challenging on your car is repairing that section that is under the rectangle. That small strip there is what keeps the car tied together, it attaches part of the floor with the outer and inner rocker. The big issue is how are you going to brace it and expand the car there so while you are repairing you'll be able to keep the lower gap open.

If you have a rotisserie, it's allready a good thing, the motor mount is something fairly easy to replace, at least the console looks good, I would reingforce that also with some of the plates that Chris Foley sells in the ressource sections.


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Posted by: zaphod750 Oct 1 2006, 10:55 AM

Johnman,

Here are some pics from the side..its on a rotisserie.

and the underneath..I actually thought the same thing (get another tub) when i first saw the damage. After i saw some of the posts on here about repairing some of the damage, I felt a little better about it...a lot of work though. Does anyone have a clean tub for sale?? If the price is right, I would certainly welcome the chance to put off the rustoration for another day.



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Posted by: mihai914 Oct 1 2006, 11:03 AM

If the paint is as good as it looks, it changes a bit the game. Also you don't necessarily need to open the fender to do the repair especially since the rust is on the lower part. You can make a patch and fix it like this.


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Posted by: zaphod750 Oct 1 2006, 11:08 AM

Well, there is undoubtedly going to be some alteration of the fenders anyway. I am going to attempt some Kelly flares. I plan on putting an Sti engine in this car so it would almost be a shame to mess up a pristine tub.

Posted by: J P Stein Oct 1 2006, 11:15 AM

Contrary to what seems to be conventional wisdom around here, 914 ownership does not require that one punish onesself for years while waiting for your first drive.
Jackstands are a very temporary option that did not come from the factory. Rottiseries are for restoration shops that suck monies out of folks that have too much.

Part that POS out and buy a nice driver. If you happen to find a Ferrari 250TR in a barn, we'll talk.

Posted by: 914-8 Oct 1 2006, 11:20 AM

Anyone who disagrees with what JP just said is an idiot!

Posted by: J P Stein Oct 1 2006, 11:37 AM

QUOTE(914-8 @ Oct 1 2006, 10:20 AM)

Anyone who disagrees with what JP just said is an idiot!

Posted by: JOHNMAN Oct 1 2006, 08:51 PM

I don't see any wheels on that rotissorie. Are you working on it outdoors?

You must be brave.

How good at welding and fabricating sheet metal parts are you?

Your repair can certainly be done if time and effort are not in short supply. You will need some repair panels (call restoration design).

Price the panels first and also look for a better CA tub (I know they are out there, because I recently bought one)

The tub I found was only slightly higher in price than a rear floor section, the two reinforcement pieces, and two outer longitudinals, and the tub came with the hoods, decklid, doors, and top.

I'm not telling you to give up on your car, but be aware of alternate options that may be available to you. If you decide to repair your car, you are in for a considerable amount of welding and fabricating.

Posted by: ayama Oct 2 2006, 06:43 AM

If your going to repair yourself:

http://www.restoration-design.com/index1.html