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Posted by: nein14 Oct 3 2006, 09:32 AM

Gauging interest in a Group buy for a GT Mechanical headlight Kit , it would be fabricated from Original GT parts. As soon as I have an idea on how many are interested the vendor can come up wiyh a cost, thanks.

Posted by: Joe Ricard Oct 3 2006, 09:52 AM

I have no idea what it looks like. Sounds like it will make my car go faster so I think I am in.
Question is what is the $$$ per Pound.

Posted by: eric914 Oct 3 2006, 09:57 AM

I would be interested depending on price ($300-$400 would be cool, $600+ would not).

Posted by: gopack Oct 3 2006, 09:58 AM

Please elaborate on the advantages of a GT style kit. Is it just for the cool factor? or for those looking to precisely replicate a factory GT? or shave a few ounces? AFAIK, there aren't any issues with the stock headlight motor/relay/mechanisms are there?
TIA

Posted by: Joe Ricard Oct 3 2006, 10:04 AM

Well the head light stuff has worked well for my car. being 36 1/2 years old I'd say that pretty good.
But I am looking to lose the motors and stuff to cut pound not ounces.

Posted by: nein14 Oct 3 2006, 10:06 AM

It does shave weight about 8lbs. per motor, and of course it all about the GT cool factor

Posted by: Aaron Cox Oct 3 2006, 10:07 AM

purely weight savings...

no motors.. just a "strut" and cable setup

Posted by: boxstr Oct 3 2006, 10:43 AM

This is the GT kit that was recently up for bid on German Ebay.
Bidding began at 250. euros and ended at 550. euros


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Posted by: Eric_Shea Oct 3 2006, 10:53 AM

In for the $200-400 range

Posted by: bjorn jacobson Oct 3 2006, 10:55 AM

I'm very interested in a kit. Only for the cool factor though.

Posted by: kckoch Oct 3 2006, 11:37 AM

Count me in for a set. How long?

Posted by: echocanyons Oct 3 2006, 11:44 AM

I would also be interested if the price is in the 200-300 range delivered.

Posted by: nein14 Oct 3 2006, 12:03 PM

As soon as I get a count on how many kits we need I will be able to give everyone the cost and delivery time.

Posted by: Marv's3.6six Oct 3 2006, 12:12 PM

Very very interested here! Have been looking for a kit for more than a year. I have been talking to aircooledracing for at least a year, they have said many times they are going to make a kit, still waiting. If you have source, great!! Put me on the list.

Posted by: Jeroen Oct 3 2006, 12:33 PM

interested in a sub $300 kit

Posted by: effutuo101 Oct 3 2006, 01:29 PM

I am interested as well for a sub 300 kit.

Posted by: Martin Baker Oct 3 2006, 01:30 PM

2 (TWO) Please...FYI, these do not close your lights after you open them...that was for the pit crew (not included).

Posted by: BKLA Oct 3 2006, 01:35 PM

I'm in for a sub $300.00 set

Time Frame?

Posted by: echocanyons Oct 3 2006, 02:03 PM

Does anyone have a picture of the pull mechanism mounted in a GT?

Posted by: ChicagoPete Oct 3 2006, 05:50 PM

I can snap one of my car...just too dark out right now to get a good look at it...will try to add one here tomorrow.

Posted by: echocanyons Oct 4 2006, 08:16 PM

Any luck on those pictures Pete?

Posted by: horizontally-opposed Oct 4 2006, 09:08 PM

Would also be in for a $200-300 kit — if the quality is top-notch.

Also curious about how well the setup will weather repeated usage over the years... factory looked at 914-6 GTs as disposable cars (much like all of their race cars, then and now).

Maybe I need to research these more.

But I am still VERY interested. Also, can anyone confirm the weight savings?

pete

Posted by: sixnotfour Oct 4 2006, 09:21 PM

There is a ton of pic's here:
http://www.pbase.com/9146gt/gt_mechanical_headlight_raisers

Posted by: echocanyons Oct 4 2006, 09:59 PM

The link has the mechanical parts but no pictures of the pull mounting location inside the drivers compartment.

I am guessing it is the pull in this picture that is to the right of the ?hazard lights and tho the left of the ign switch. But I dont know for sure.


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Posted by: sixnotfour Oct 4 2006, 10:04 PM

pull knob can be anywhere ,most came through were the trunk pull was, as GT didnt use the trunk release.

Tangerine scream dash mounted pull;
http://www.pbase.com/9146gt/image/22288927

Factory GT round black knob, hood release location;
http://www.pbase.com/9146gt/image/23456222

Posted by: echocanyons Oct 4 2006, 10:23 PM

cool thank you!

Posted by: lotus_65 Oct 5 2006, 04:35 AM

i'm interested, sub $300.

thanks

Posted by: davep Oct 5 2006, 06:59 AM

I may also be interested, so keep me in mind.

Posted by: fat73 Oct 5 2006, 08:49 AM

Does this kit eliminate the headlight switch?

Ed aka w9r1

Posted by: Rotten Robby Oct 5 2006, 08:50 AM

Jeff, Does your GT use this pull system?

Posted by: Rotten Robby Oct 5 2006, 08:51 AM

I am in for one... Sub $300 please

Posted by: sixnotfour Oct 5 2006, 07:00 PM

Yes

I would buy another;

No you still need to turn em on.

Posted by: 396 Oct 5 2006, 07:09 PM

Count me in for two - if these are in the $2-300 range.

Thank you!

Posted by: smdubovsky Oct 8 2006, 01:37 PM

I'd take one in the ~$250 range.

SMD

Posted by: ge9146 Oct 11 2006, 10:03 AM

I would also be interested in one in the $200-$300 range

Posted by: PlanB Oct 11 2006, 11:14 AM

I am definetly interested. Please add me to your group buy follow-up list.

Posted by: jgullock Oct 11 2006, 11:26 AM

I'm in. Let me know.

Posted by: autohausdolby Oct 12 2006, 01:37 AM

Yep, interested here too But of a bummer being in the UK though

Perhaps a club shop with deposits is a good idea to sort the numbers? I suppose it'd mean a lot of responsibility for one guy (or girl ) though.

Posted by: cork Oct 12 2006, 09:59 PM

Let me know, I'm interested

Posted by: Qarl Oct 12 2006, 10:53 PM

I'm in for a set.

Posted by: Lightweight_911 Nov 10 2006, 05:29 AM

I'd be interested in 1 or 2 sets.

Posted by: RON S. Nov 10 2006, 08:18 AM

I'd be interested also,as long as cost is Reasonable.




Ron

Posted by: Eric_Shea Nov 10 2006, 10:38 AM

Any update on this kit?

Posted by: BKLA Nov 10 2006, 11:09 AM

Update?

Posted by: carr914 Nov 10 2006, 12:26 PM

Glad to have you here Andy (Lightweight 911) I knew it wouldn't take too long

T.C.

Posted by: Lightweight_911 Nov 10 2006, 12:54 PM

Thanks TC !

Posted by: nein14 Nov 10 2006, 01:26 PM

hopefully soon guys

Posted by: Eric_Shea Nov 10 2006, 03:51 PM

Agreed... Andy snuck in from the early911sregistry

of your R Clone!!

Posted by: Lightweight_911 Nov 11 2006, 04:28 AM

Thanks Eric ! I'm over here because I'm buying TC's car.

I don't want to highjack this thread but here's a couple of pictures...




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Posted by: Jeroen Nov 11 2006, 07:31 AM

sweet!

Posted by: JPB Nov 11 2006, 09:08 AM

If all they do is raise the headlights and one has to manually lower them later, I can see a similar kit going for $200 max plus shipping. Its not a factory repro but lighter and more modern than the old style.

Posted by: nein14 Nov 11 2006, 10:50 AM

So it is clear, this will be a Repro kit copied from REAL GT parts.

Posted by: JPB Nov 11 2006, 05:42 PM

Anything as the repro deal would be some real money but new and improved, I don't see it past $200 dollars. At least not in parts. If the stimulated market is for a copy of the original, I'm not a fan of that but I can see making something similar as a kit and much cheaper and definately sympler as a bolt on.

Posted by: Martin Baker Nov 11 2006, 06:05 PM

John, when and how much? Can you give us an idea who is making the parts? Local machine shop, etc? FYI another set is on ebay...


Martin

Posted by: JPB Nov 12 2006, 09:13 AM

I've been wanting to do this myself not knowing it was as popular as evidently seen here and it purked my ears. My car is almost done painting and it is looking freekin crazzy sweet. Once out, i will tackel this kit head on ASAP and have one this winter. I will be making all the parts myself and it will all be high end matrials and craftsmanship. I don't expect it to be expensive and sorry if I hijacked this thread.

Posted by: warrenporsche Nov 12 2006, 11:47 AM

I am interested, but the sub $300 range would be nice. will someone put me down and let me know when they become avalible!!

Posted by: GTPatrick Nov 12 2006, 02:39 PM

Throw my hat into the ring for a set.

Posted by: amallagh Nov 30 2006, 06:42 PM

Its been a couple weeks since the last post on here. I've been asking every possible supplier I can think of for this kit and a replica front hood pin kit (square plates) for the last few weeks and someone pointed me in the direction of this thread.
Is anything happening with this ? Or is it dead ?

Definitely up for a kit.

On different issue can anybody give me any advice on where to get a GT replica front hood pin kit ? I have found that a number of the suppleirs who list them on their websites don't do the replica kits any more. Please PM if you can help rather than distracting this thread.
Andrew

Posted by: Jeroen Nov 30 2006, 06:55 PM

why'd you need a kit?
there are drawings posted for the plates
buy some aluminium sheet and put in some elbow grease
the pins can be had at any race shop

Posted by: amallagh Nov 30 2006, 07:43 PM

I'm looking for a kit for the 'GT kudos' and to save weight on my trackand road rally car I'm building. Fabricating bits of metal is not my idea of fun so I'm looking for a kit made by someone who knows what they are doing. Happy to pay the money for someone else to do the clever bit. Lifes too short ! Less time in the garage wearing my fingers down is more time driving !
Do you know anything about where this idea got to ?

Posted by: amallagh Nov 30 2006, 07:46 PM

Oh, and I need pins because I have bought a fibreglass hood and rear deck. Getting the GT look is just pose value !

Posted by: Jeroen Nov 30 2006, 07:56 PM

I understand why you want pins and the GT correct look
But why bother with a kit? Anyone could make these with very simple hand tools in less than an hour

but what are you doing awake anyway?

Posted by: 396 Nov 30 2006, 09:17 PM

Any updates on this Group Buy?

Posted by: nein14 Nov 30 2006, 09:18 PM

Real soon

Posted by: amallagh Dec 1 2006, 03:13 AM

Count me in John if it is in the sub $300 range that people seem to be mentioning including everything that is needed to make it work. Lower the better of course !
Will it be able to raise and lower the lights from inside the car with the GT mechanism ?

Posted by: Jeroen Dec 1 2006, 06:20 AM

the GT system is raise only
(you have to push the headlights down manually)

Posted by: hwgunner Dec 4 2006, 10:07 PM

I am in, let me know when they are ready.

jonathan

Posted by: jj83118 Dec 10 2006, 09:34 PM

I'm interested too!

Jim

Posted by: roadster fan Dec 13 2006, 02:54 AM

I am in for a reasonably priced kit, thanks for putting it together.

Posted by: autohausdolby Dec 29 2006, 07:08 AM

How are we getting on with this? I've just received my GT door pull kit so I'm all fired up

Posted by: autohausdolby Jan 10 2007, 04:39 AM

Any progress?

Posted by: nein14 Jan 19 2007, 09:25 AM

Update:
Just spoke to Steve Limbert of Air Cooled Racing who owns the Max Mortiz (914/6 GT.

He will be making a first run of 24 units of the GT Headlight Kit , at a cost of $339.00. This will be a duplicate of the parts that are in his GT.

All parts will be Cad plated and powdercoated this will be a complete bolt in kit.

To order a kit contact Steve direct at Air Cooled Racing 1-717-432-4116, he said the kits should be ready in about a month.

Posted by: Lightweight_911 Jan 19 2007, 12:41 PM

Excellent ! Thanks, John - just sent Steve an email.

Posted by: Marv's3.6six Jan 19 2007, 03:34 PM

Seeing is believing, I have been or should say had been talking to Steve for well more than a year about Aircooled making those kits. I finally gave up when Armando Serrano of Pbase 9146GT fame contacted me and we bought some complete kits from europe. They were quite spendy, are currently waiting for delivery.

Posted by: nein14 Jan 19 2007, 03:44 PM

I know they cost you at least twice what Steve is going to sell them for, I had spoke to Armando about them too when I bought his 15 x 8 Minilites.

Steve has already removed the parts from his GT and they are at the machine shop.

Posted by: Lightweight_911 Jan 19 2007, 04:14 PM

My emails were bounced back so I just phoned Steve - the go ahead relies (as John originally stated) on getting commitment for 24 sets.

I said I'd take 2 sets - I'm sure at this price we should be able to get at least 24 commitments...

Posted by: Qarl Jan 19 2007, 06:38 PM

I'm still in for a set!

Posted by: hwgunner Jan 20 2007, 12:14 PM

I have been watching this for a while and I would like a set.

Posted by: Porschetoyz Jan 20 2007, 03:37 PM

I am in for one set.........Hmmmm, or two.......

Posted by: nein14 Jan 31 2007, 09:57 AM

OK Here we go, I posted this thread and had 31 members post replies stating they wanted a set of these GT headlight kits.

Steve Limbert of Air Cooled Racing has spent a lot of time taking apart His factory GT car to have the parts fabricated to build the kits and as of this morning he has only gotten 3 orders!

Hey guys were everbody at ????????

Posted by: autohausdolby Jan 31 2007, 10:09 AM

Sorry, I didn't see the update. I've just e-mailed Steve cus trans-Atlantic phone calls are pricey!

Posted by: jj83118 Jan 31 2007, 06:32 PM

I interested in a "set" if it includes all the parts (cables, mounts, struts,...everything). Does anyone know what is included?

Thanks,

Jim

Posted by: nein14 Feb 1 2007, 07:36 AM

Read the original thread

Posted by: Eric_Shea Feb 1 2007, 10:48 AM

He had more than three calls when I ordered mine over two weeks ago. He said he was innundated with calls. He even mentioned people calling from overseas. Is there a communication issue? Do you think I should call him again? Let me know your thoughts.

Eric

Posted by: army dude Feb 1 2007, 10:58 AM

I am interested except I can't make the call from here in Iraq. I don't want to see this go away so count me in and I will try to find a way to contact him. Keep me up on this please and good job putting it together!!!!

Ian in Iraq...Again

Posted by: Eric_Shea Feb 1 2007, 11:18 AM

Ian,

I can contact him for you. If you have a means of purchase I can even buy them for you. Steve mentioned to me that he would be calling back (sometime around now) to get the initial deposit. Pieces were at the platers.

If you have a credit card I can just buy them for your and ship them to you for whatever the cost is.

Let me know if that helps.

Eric

P.S. John, when I did the GT handle and strap group buy, I forwarded a link (via PM) to everyone that was on the list. I had about 99% follow through from the people on the list. My guess is there's a lot of people here who have forgotten or lost the info. You may simply want to send Steve's contact info to the people who signed up here to make sure they're good to go.

Posted by: nein14 Feb 1 2007, 01:07 PM

Eric
When I spoke to Steve for Air Cooled Racing (717-432-4116) this past tues. he said he spoke to you and your order was in as well as mine and 2 others, and that was it! The thread was posted here as well as the former club site.

Pretty sad when there was 31 members the replied to the thread and stated they wanted the Kits. The price was based on that quantity, hoprfully Steve will be able to hold that cost.

At this point he will only be making 12 Kits total so when their gone their gone! So anyone else who wants one call him direct at 717-432-4116 no email orders.

Eric & Ian, thanks for the support.

Posted by: kckoch Feb 1 2007, 01:50 PM

Just catching up, and I placed a call to Steve today. I think people have just lost track of the thread, and hopefully they will plug in soon. If anyone talks to Steve, please let him know I got $ ready, and hope to get my set soon!

Posted by: Eric_Shea Feb 1 2007, 02:44 PM

I sent the contact info out to all who expressed interest.

Posted by: Lightweight_911 Feb 1 2007, 03:47 PM

John - do you know if Steve was including me in his list ?

I phoned & spoke to him on 19th Jan & said I would take 2 sets (as posted on the previous page) ...

Posted by: michel richard Feb 1 2007, 03:53 PM

I don't think I really need a kit, because I made my own. But if Steve ends up with unsold parts on his hands, because some purchasers did not come through with cash, I might take one kit. In other words, don't count on me, but I might be able to help.

Posted by: Eric_Shea Feb 1 2007, 03:56 PM

Andy,

When I spoke with him he mentioned you called.

Posted by: nein14 Feb 1 2007, 07:28 PM

Yes Andy he did tell me he spoke to you. As soon as I speak to him when the parts are back from plating I will let you guys know.

Posted by: Martin Baker Feb 1 2007, 07:34 PM

No one mentioned a time limit, and I do want a set. Maybe two. I hate to put them on my real six. Since its not a real GT and all....


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Posted by: warrenporsche Feb 1 2007, 07:46 PM

I will take a set, someone lemmie know when and were to send the $$$

Posted by: 911quest Feb 2 2007, 01:24 PM

Just called #7 on the list

Posted by: sixnotfour Feb 2 2007, 01:48 PM

Just called , Im number 9, guys better get on it. cut off is 12,

Posted by: hwgunner Feb 2 2007, 02:24 PM

I spoke to steve this AM and placed my order.

Posted by: Eric_Shea Feb 2 2007, 04:00 PM

Jeff,

I don't think I PM'd you as I was reading throught the thread I didn't see you wanting them. Sorry. Glad you made it in.

Posted by: ge9146 Feb 2 2007, 04:54 PM

I spoke with Steve this afternoon. I'm number 10 on the list.


Eric,
Thanks for the heads up.

Posted by: sixnotfour Feb 2 2007, 07:05 PM

eric , no worrries I have been watching thread for some real progress.
all good thanks.

I gave Steve , Ralph Meaney's phone # , 1hour later Ralph calls me pretty excited to hear from him about his old race cars. Ralph's web site:
http://www.meaneyracing.com/index.htm


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Posted by: Martin Baker Feb 2 2007, 09:36 PM

I am number 11, and 12.

Just squeaked in. Good thing I came home for lunch today.

Posted by: army dude Feb 3 2007, 10:20 AM

WEll, I appreciate the help but unfortunately I have been out on some missions and unable to check on this like I should. I will just wait till next time. DARN IRAQ THING!!!

Ian in Iraq...Again

Posted by: Martin Baker Feb 3 2007, 11:24 AM

When I spoke with the guy, he said he would up the order number if more were placed. If you have a friend here, have them call anyway. Its a small market for these, and he went to "break even" mode.


Martin

Posted by: BKLA Feb 3 2007, 12:56 PM

After getting a heads up PM from Eric, I too ordered a set. Had a great conversation with Steve. Nice guy and very knowledgeable.

Sometimes theses threads go waaay off topic, and I hadn't checked in for a while. My guess, given my personal experience, is that out of the 31 members who expressed interest, that only 5 - 7 will actually order some.

Posted by: Qarl Feb 3 2007, 01:15 PM

He may make up to 20 or 25 kits, so if you still want one call.

It's Saturday. He's there right now!

Karl

Posted by: army dude Feb 3 2007, 01:47 PM

I just got off the phone with Steve and we are working out a package for me for when I get home. So, I BE IN LIKE FLYNN!! What a very nice guy and accomodating!!


NOW, who wants to install it?

Ian in Iraq...Again

Posted by: autohausdolby Feb 3 2007, 03:22 PM

I haven't had a reply to my mail yet What address should I be using?

Posted by: Lightweight_911 Feb 3 2007, 03:30 PM

Matt - my original emails were bounced back so I phoned Steve & ordered the kits.

He gave me his direct email address which is:

limbertsteve@cs.com

Posted by: autohausdolby Feb 3 2007, 03:36 PM

Super, thanks

Posted by: Eric_Shea Feb 3 2007, 05:16 PM

Well... I did well with the GT Handles. I think only one person bailed. These things are hard to predict.

To be fair to the people, a few of them did say sub $200 or $300 range. Also, a lot of people needed to be informed that this was still alive.

Now... to expect a project like this at sub $200-$300 is a bit unrealistic as well.

This should be a fantastic buy at a great price. Many thanks to John and Steve

Posted by: nein14 Feb 4 2007, 09:09 AM

Thanks for the Kudos Eric!

Steve is a Great Guy , to offer to take his Real GT apart to fabricate parts for us is HUGH!! I don't think there are many owners would do that.

I spoke to him Friday and he is going to try to email me pics of the proto-type installed. I will post them as soon as I get them.

Posted by: Lightweight_911 Feb 25 2007, 06:30 AM

John - any update on these ?

Posted by: nein14 Feb 25 2007, 07:06 AM

Actually I was at Air Cooled Racing yesterday for a Central Pa PCA tech session. Steve is expecting the parts back from the Macine Shop hopefully end of next week.

Here are some pics from yesterday


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Posted by: 396 Feb 25 2007, 08:49 AM

Eric,

Thanks for the heads-up..I called Steve a few weeks back and ordered 2 sets-
One for me and a friend.
Again, thank you!

PS Been out of sight for a while- good to be back

Posted by: Eric_Shea Feb 25 2007, 12:29 PM

What's the story on that funny looking "Green" car and why does it have a headlight missing??

Posted by: autohausdolby Mar 2 2007, 02:25 AM

I've still not heard anything about this - anybody got an e-mail address I can use? (if there are any left)

Posted by: Eric_Shea Mar 2 2007, 08:22 AM

I spoke with Steve last week. The parts were still in the "plating" stage. I'll try to give him a call today.

Posted by: nein14 Mar 2 2007, 09:03 AM

Eric
I was at Steve's Sat. for a PCA Tech session and spoke to him yesterday. Parts are still in process.

Posted by: autohausdolby Mar 2 2007, 02:46 PM

Thanks Eric - can you ask him if it's OK to do it via e-mail? I'm never around at a time I could phone, plus as I think I mentioned above I'm far too tight to place a trans-atlantic call

Posted by: Lightweight_911 Mar 2 2007, 02:53 PM

Matt - use his direct email address rather than trying to contact him through his work one:

email: limbertsteve@cs.com

Posted by: autohausdolby Mar 2 2007, 03:21 PM

Thanks Andy - I've tried that one before but I've tried again just now Fingers crossed!

Posted by: Eric_Shea Mar 2 2007, 03:49 PM

Matt,

You need headlight buckets before you get these

Posted by: autohausdolby Mar 2 2007, 03:51 PM

Don't worry, I've got them in a box at home - I've got 2 whole cars now and one of them actually has some parts!

Posted by: 396 Mar 4 2007, 11:18 AM

Guys,

Any further updates? I s/w Steve about a month ago for two kits.

No further communications as yet on my end.

Does any one know of ETA... not that I need those now.
Just don't want to have Steve think I backed out.

Thank you!

Posted by: nein14 Mar 5 2007, 07:35 AM

look on page 6 of the thread

Posted by: Eric_Shea Mar 29 2007, 11:15 PM

Anything?

Posted by: RON S. Mar 30 2007, 05:56 AM

When I spoke to Steve on the phone a month or 2 ago,he told me he'd need about that much time to get these lift kits done,as he was outsourcing the work.

I mentioned to him at the time,that if he was that far out timewise I'd like to just pick up my unit at the Hershey swap cause I know he's always setup there anyways.

He said that would be fine as he felt certain things would be ready by then.


I don't know if it's fact,but thats just where my discussion with him went.


Ron

Posted by: Eric_Shea Apr 11 2007, 03:58 PM

Anything?

Posted by: 911quest Apr 11 2007, 04:01 PM

I was thinking the same thing any word?

Posted by: autohausdolby Apr 12 2007, 02:24 AM

(Puts broken record on) I've still not heard anything either

Posted by: nein14 Apr 12 2007, 08:12 AM

OK, I know it sounds like a broken record but I spoke to Steve yesterday. He is gong to pick them up from the plating vendor and the only thing he is waiting on are the cables.

Steve said he will have them done before the Hershey Swap Meet on 4/28 were I will see him and pick mine up , and he will be calling everyone who ordered them before Hershey.

Posted by: kckoch May 1 2007, 03:00 PM

Just spoke with Steve. He has all the parts, however he was displeased with the cable splitter (plastic) and is having metal ones made. He is hoping to have them completed by end of month, and he will then call and ask for money, so he can ship.

Thanks Steve!

Posted by: nein14 May 1 2007, 03:39 PM

Sorry for not posting the same info yesterday after being at Hershey Sat.

I did see and touch the parts ay the Swap Meet and they look great! specially the pull handle that is made out of machined aluminum and powdercoated black.

All the part look really Good, Steve didi a great job!

Posted by: tomkirkcis May 2 2007, 06:39 PM

I may be way too late for this, BUT, if a kit is available, I would like in. thanks tom

Posted by: autohausdolby May 3 2007, 02:32 AM

I still wanting one as well

Posted by: nein14 May 3 2007, 07:35 AM

I believe they are all spoken for, I will let you know if anyone backs out or if there will be a second run, but I don't think there will be.

Posted by: hwgunner May 29 2007, 09:36 PM

Almost the end of the month and wondering if anyone has heard aything??

Posted by: RON S. May 30 2007, 05:57 AM

I talked to Steve last month at the Hershey swap meet.

I came with money in my hand ready to get my kit.

He showed me some kits already put together except for one piece.


He was waiting for the cables with the cable splitters in them.According to him he was not satisfied with the quality of the first couple of cables he received,and sent them back to get a better quality splitter.

He told me that when the cables are manufactured and are both cosmetically acceptable and of good quality.He'll be ready to ship the kits.

FWIT.

Ron

Posted by: PlanB Jun 13 2007, 03:15 PM

Any 'new news' on this group buy?


Thanks,

-Ric

Posted by: Eric_Shea Jun 13 2007, 06:40 PM

Yup,

Reliable sources say the kits are done but (as above) the cable splitter wasn't up to par. People actually put their hands on the kits at Hershey and they said they looked spot on.

I'd say the best thing to do is give Steve a call for an update on the splitter. I just spoke to Ron (above) today and he had great things to say about them but lamented the splitter didn't look as good as the rest of the kit.

Steve wants to do this right.

Posted by: nein14 Jun 14 2007, 07:36 AM

Update: spoke to Steve yesterday the spitter came out great, now the final part are the cables which he expecting any day.

Once he has approved the sample from the vendor he should have them all within a few weeks.

Posted by: RON S. Jun 14 2007, 10:50 AM

I'm ready to go.


Everything was there but the cables with the splitter assembly.

Ron

Posted by: kckoch Jun 26 2007, 03:58 PM

Any new information? I sent my check off a little over a month ago. Anyone?

Posted by: duktail Jun 26 2007, 06:36 PM

What did the price end up being on the kits and are there any still available?

Posted by: nein14 Jun 27 2007, 07:34 AM

The splitter is done he is still waiting on the cables, I spoke to him last friday.

Posted by: kckoch Jun 27 2007, 12:16 PM

Thanks John, left a message and didn't hear back from Steve.

Posted by: kckoch Jul 12 2007, 03:32 PM

Talked with Steve today. Still working on them!

Posted by: jaminM3 Jul 12 2007, 05:27 PM

Wow, somebody needs new plating, splitter and cable vendors...

I can't imagine waiting 6 months for these...

Posted by: kckoch Aug 15 2007, 12:49 PM

John, Eric,

Any news?

Posted by: amallagh Aug 15 2007, 01:55 PM

I had to drop out of this opportunity before Christmas 2006 because it had already taken over the original time expectation and I had to ship my package of GT conversion parts&car to the UK. It has been interesting (and considerably less frustrating) watching this from the sidelines.
I hope you all get your parts and the quality meets the high expectations that must have built up in peoples minds by now. If (and I hope when ) this kit actually becomes available and is proved in service, I hope someone directly involved has the fore thought to offer another batch for those mere mortals less patient than a Saint.

I look on with interest !!

Posted by: yeti Aug 20 2007, 09:07 PM

Hi,
I would like to order 2 sets as well if still possible. So please count me in. How and where to pay? Please let me know.
Thanks

Posted by: sixnotfour Aug 20 2007, 11:19 PM

We are still waiting for the first batch. patiently

Posted by: 396 Aug 29 2007, 06:33 AM

Any further updates?

Thank you!

Posted by: nein14 Aug 29 2007, 07:57 AM

I spoke with Steve yesterday, he is as frustrated as we are. the machine shop that is fabricating the swages is draging their feet getting them finished.

Steve has a lot of money and time invested in this project and to date has not cash anyone checks that have made payment and told me he wil not until he has everything for the kits, which is one part.

So that being siad he is committed to making this happen, so everyone hang in there.Thanks

Posted by: kckoch Aug 30 2007, 06:13 PM

[quote name='nein14' date='Aug 29 2007, 06:57 AM' post='940122']
I spoke with Steve yesterday, he is as frustrated as we are. the machine shop that is fabricating the swages is draging their feet getting them finished.

Steve has a lot of money and time invested in this project and to date has not cash anyone checks that have made payment and told me he wil not until he has everything for the kits, which is one part.

So that being siad he is committed to making this happen, so everyone hang in there.Thanks
[/quote/]

Well I have always believed in the old addage "good things come to those who wait" So wait I will. John, please tell Steve we appreciate his hard work, and attention to detail. I look forward to getting mine!

Posted by: BKLA Aug 30 2007, 06:30 PM

No problem in waiting. Just let us know when they're done!

Posted by: army dude Aug 31 2007, 09:19 AM

I too will wait for good things!!

Posted by: nein14 Sep 17 2007, 09:42 AM

GOOD NEWS!!!!!!!

Spoke with Steve and the swages are IN!! So that being said the last and easiest item are the cables, he told me he will do his best to have the Kit avaliable to ship by next week.

Posted by: RON S. Sep 17 2007, 10:47 AM

Sounds good



Ron

Posted by: Eric_Shea Sep 17 2007, 10:57 AM

Sill on board. Let me know the final payment details.

Posted by: army dude Sep 17 2007, 11:45 AM

I am ready with cash burnin in my pocket for Steve!!

Posted by: sixnotfour Sep 17 2007, 11:51 AM

Ready

Posted by: RON S. Sep 17 2007, 12:39 PM

My cash is ready and waiting!!


Ron

Posted by: hwgunner Sep 17 2007, 01:58 PM

Me Too!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: kckoch Oct 6 2007, 08:03 PM

Did we hear from Steve yet?

Posted by: Blood red 914-6gt Oct 6 2007, 09:16 PM

Still interested if anyone bails.

Posted by: nein14 Oct 7 2007, 07:17 AM

They are working on the cables as we speak, should have something by the end of next week.

Posted by: army dude Oct 7 2007, 11:35 AM

I want, I want, I want!!!
I wait, Iwait, Iwait!!

Posted by: RON S. Oct 8 2007, 05:40 AM

I sent in my check a couple weeks ago.


I didn't wanna miss the train.


Ron

Posted by: 396 Oct 9 2007, 07:20 AM

Any updates?

Posted by: jwhcars Oct 9 2007, 09:45 AM

I just got off the phone with Steve - wish I had known about this buy I would have asked about it.
Steve will be at the VIR at the Glen weekend of the 20th and then will be leaving for Daytona the 29th.
He is incharge of the Tech inspections for all the cars running in Daytona.
At this time there are at least 20 917 signed up and over 300 porsches.
So if you can make it to Daytona Nov 1 2 3 it should be a great time.There are at least 30 Porsche cars coming from europe that have never before been in the states.

Sorry for the highjack - if needed I can drive to Steves shop and see whats up.

Steve is a OLD SCHOOL kind of guy - Yes he has a computer(old one and he rarely uses it). I have found that it is best to call him on the phone

Posted by: nein14 Oct 9 2007, 11:11 AM

Dude, look at the post above for the update on the GT kits

I don't need you to drive to his shop to see whats up , I speak to Steve on a weekly basis on the status of the group buy. I've got it handled.

Posted by: 396 Dec 16 2007, 07:49 AM

Any updates out there on these elusive head light kits?

Posted by: nein14 Dec 16 2007, 08:28 AM

Iam as frustated as everyone else, spoke to him friday. He is working on a set of installation directions he told me he hopes to have them done soon.

He still has not cashed any of the payment checks.

Posted by: 396 Dec 16 2007, 08:34 AM

Thanks for the reply.. i too sent him a check ( sent in May 07) for two sets . Was going to give a set away for Xmas . I guess that will never happen:(

All the best for the holidays!

Posted by: smdubovsky Dec 16 2007, 08:53 AM

Uhh, Were we supposed to send in payment checks? When I spoke to him (years ago??) to get on the 'official list' and he didn't say anything about sending a check. IIRC, he said he'd take payment when they were done. Did I screw up?

SMD

Posted by: Eric_Shea Dec 16 2007, 10:36 AM

Nope... I spoke to Steve and was told I was on the list as well. Never heard about a check. Still ready to go.



Awe... you shouldn't have.

No worries... I'll wait, a belated gift is better than nothing at all!

I like this because it's one group buy that's actually taken longer than my suspension bushings!!

Hanging in there...

E.

Posted by: hwgunner Dec 16 2007, 10:46 AM

I was told NOT to send a check, that I would be asked to pay wen they were ready. I gave him a phone number and he said he would call. I hope he still has my number. Is there a way just to make sure that I am still on the list? Should I call him again and waist his time or do I go with the force??

Posted by: 396 Dec 16 2007, 12:47 PM

"I go with the force".... I sent my $ in to show that 1) I trusted him 2) committted to the buy.

Sorry if I caused any ill feelings.

Posted by: nein14 Dec 16 2007, 02:03 PM

Everbody stop worrying

Steve still has the list of who was in on the buy and so do I

They are coming an so is Christmas

Posted by: BKLA Dec 17 2007, 10:31 AM

Looking forward to getting them when they're done!

Remember, patience is a virtue!

Posted by: amallagh Dec 17 2007, 05:09 PM

John,
I've been following this thread since Nov 2006 and indicated I would buy a kit if it was sub $300 back on 1st Dec 2006. Recently I've seen mention of a 'list' and some confusion about whether money should have been sent or not.
(One one thing more frustrating than waiting all day for a bus. That's waiting for a bus all day, only to find there is no room on it when it arrives !)

Would it be possible to clarify who exactly is on the 'LIST', how many kits are going to be made and what price these kits are likely to be now they are nearly finished.
Many thanks
Andrew

Posted by: nein14 Dec 18 2007, 08:17 AM

There my be some additional kit you need to contact Steve directly.

Posted by: 396 Dec 28 2007, 07:40 PM

OK Christmas is here and Gone.... any further updates? Can I expect them by Feb of 2008?

Posted by: Vacca Rabite Jan 4 2008, 07:14 AM

Just thought I would throw out a teaser, even though I am not even on the list. I was over at Air Cooled Racing yesterday. Ended up talking with Steve for about an hour. I saw the kits. They look great. He is waiting for the cables, everything else is done.

Zach

Posted by: charliew Jan 11 2008, 05:28 PM

If there are any unspoken for kits I will take one.
Thanks,
Charliew

Posted by: nein14 Jan 12 2008, 08:13 AM

All are spoken for at this time.

Posted by: 396 Feb 7 2008, 08:31 AM

Any further updates on this?

Thank you!

Posted by: Eric_Shea Feb 7 2008, 10:40 AM

On the phone with him now... Hoping to have them by the end of the month. Hershey at least.

Posted by: smdubovsky Feb 7 2008, 11:59 AM

Hehehehe. Thats what he said. Last year;) Still waiting patiently.

Posted by: BKLA Feb 7 2008, 12:11 PM

Jeez, give the guy a break. He offers to build us a 914 6 GT headlight kit and he is waiting on a cable issue. He wants to do it right.

If you are tired of waiting, then build it or find it yourself. Its not like you have paid for the things and not received them!

I'll bet there are a few who would love to have your place in line!

I am happy to wait. I like his kit and I would like it to work without cable problems.

When its ready, its ready.

Posted by: army dude Feb 7 2008, 12:19 PM

I rubbed my lamp and the gennie inside said he couldn't even make them without any issues so I will still wait. I am happy to see someone as anal about quality as I am.

Ian

Posted by: Eric_Shea Feb 7 2008, 12:27 PM

Sounds like everything might be together. He just wants to test fit on a car and take pictures.

Posted by: nein14 Feb 7 2008, 12:45 PM

Since Iam the guy that started this project with Steve, Iam glad to see somebody else understands the process. Iam tried of these guys complaining its taking to long.

Posted by: Eric_Shea Feb 7 2008, 02:20 PM

I don't think there's any need to ruffle feathers on either side of the fence. I don't think Stephen was complaining... he made a joke and said he's is "waiting patiently". Steve's joking about it when I spoke to him on the phone. He was worried about being "Lynched" at Hershey.

There's no doubt this has taken longer than any other group buy out there. Well over a year ago it was going to be a month.

I think we all need to understand that Steve runs a very successful race shop and he has many "bill paying" projects to attend to. With all the time and effort put into this I doubt he's making any coin on it. Also, he wants to do it right.

Hang tight, bump the thread every now and again and, that fateful day will come. There's "really" no need to get worked up or piss anyone off over something as simple as this.

Posted by: Phoenix 914-6GT Feb 7 2008, 06:24 PM

I would love for some to back out I am #2 on the backup list.

Posted by: degreeoff Feb 7 2008, 06:45 PM

Hell for that matter I have built my own and would still go with an "authentic GT Kit" if someone wants out.....

Posted by: racerbvd Feb 7 2008, 08:58 PM

I wouldn't mind having a set for my GT clone either, and since it is all appart

Posted by: 396 Feb 7 2008, 09:33 PM

"Hang tight, bump the thread every now and again "

That was my intent.. I spoke to him last week and thought..hey bump the thread in case some one else has some updated info.

Heck, he already has my $....

Thanks all

Posted by: RON S. Feb 8 2008, 10:34 AM

I'll catch up with Steve when he's at Hersey in April.

Just be patient.

Ron

Posted by: nein14 Feb 9 2008, 07:50 AM

They will be done way before Hershey

Posted by: racerbvd Feb 9 2008, 08:47 AM

Just let me know if anyone drops out

Posted by: ChicagoPete Feb 10 2008, 09:46 PM

I'm with Byron, if anyone is looking to get out of their's I'll gladly take a set or two.

Peter

Posted by: amallagh Feb 11 2008, 03:10 AM

I'm sure I don't need to point out to any of us who have been following this thread that it started back in October 2006. I first saw it on 1st Dec 2006 and confirmed my interest in a single set at that time. Due to the ambiguity about how to actually get included on the 'list' in the early stages I found a couple of months later that I was not included and no more kits were available . C'est La Vie.
Given the near 18 months of development that have gone into making these kits, and the obvious interest there is from other 914 owners, would it not be sensible for Steve to make a second batch after the first batch is finished ?
Surely this would be a tiny amount of extra effort for double the delight of fellow 914 owners ?

What do you think John ?
Andrew

Posted by: Phoenix 914-6GT Feb 11 2008, 04:16 AM

Steve actually told me he is thinking that he will do another run after this first one is finished and delivered. He said the interest is high enough for him to do so, and it wouldn't be much of a problem as he will have everything figured out.

Posted by: nein14 Feb 11 2008, 08:01 AM

Hi Andrew
First thanks for the interest, Steve and I have talked about a second run right after the first list of interested parties was collected back in '07. We wanted to wait until the first run of kits were completed fabicating , which as everyone following this thread knows has taken some time!

We are very fourtunate that Steve was willing to disasemble his REAL GT and make the kits after my repeated requests.

The thing that bother me is some members here started to leave threads stating what they were willing to pay for the kits.

I can tell you after Steve had the kits finally completed he is not making any thing on them. So he is considering making a second run, however I'm sure if the price go's up IMHO a lot of member wil start with negative comments about why.

Posted by: Phoenix 914-6GT Feb 11 2008, 12:14 PM

The price should go up, and he should sell some to performance and paragon once he's done and make a killing off of them Steve is very nice for doing this, and he should be rewarded by it.

Posted by: BKLA Feb 11 2008, 12:39 PM

Posted by: amallagh Feb 11 2008, 03:31 PM

John,
thanks for giving those of us not on the 'list' a glimmer of hope to cling to.
I thought I had secured a kit back in 2006 but somehow that didn't happen when it came to the 'list'. We all live in the real World where things cost money, and we don't have enough of the stuff to buy everything we want. Some peoples Worlds are more 'real' than other, but they are all 'real'. As such we all make decisions about what we buy based on how much things cost and how much we want or need them.
I absolutely agree with the philosophy you suggest about waiting until the first batch is delivered before taking names for the second. I trust by that stage Steve will have a cost worked out so the speculating "prepared to pay up to $?" comments be avoided.

Anyone (not meaning you) confusing these real life buying decisions, with not appreciating what Steve is doing for his fellow 914 owners is reading things that aren't there. It is just real life for those of us whose World is maybe a little more 'real' than some of our fellow enthusiast.

Just for the record I would like to thank Steve (and you) for the efforts he is making in-case that has not come across loud and clear.

I will continue to watch this thread with enthusiastic interest and would appreciate anything you can do to encourage Steve to make a second batch for the equally virtuous members who may have missed out on the first.
(Maybe that 2nd batch needs to be a little bigger ? Gauging by the responce on here I'm sure they won't be left sitting on the shelf !)

Many thanks
Andrew

Posted by: Eric_Shea Apr 24 2008, 05:26 PM

Hi John,

Have you spoken with Steve about this lately?

Thanks,

E.

Posted by: Root_Werks Apr 24 2008, 07:01 PM

Count me in, even if it's more.

Posted by: Eric_Shea Apr 24 2008, 07:44 PM

I'll pony up too...

Posted by: hwgunner Apr 24 2008, 10:02 PM

So I was on the list for the first set and even spoke to Steve at one point. I tried to pay at that time and he would not let me. I still really want a set and was wondering if I am still on the list?? Any way to find out??

jonathan reiss
hwgunner
LOOSMotorsports

Posted by: nein14 Apr 25 2008, 07:45 AM

OK Guys, here is the lastest. I just got off the phone with Steve, the sheathing for the cables was the wrong size and had to be reordered and has not shown up.

So he assured me he will get them completed after Hershey, which is tomorrow.

He has a lot of time and money in time and parts that he needs and as everyone who has sent him checks he has not cashed any of them.

So please hang in there I know it 's been way too long

Posted by: racerbvd Apr 25 2008, 09:39 AM

No Problem!!!

Posted by: horizontally-opposed Apr 25 2008, 10:09 AM

John,

My situation is the same as Andrew's. I should have watched this thread more closely after my first post. My assumption was my mistake.

I too would be very interested should Steve decide to do a second batch. Certainly for one set, possibly for two.

Price would matter to me, but $200-400 seems just fine. Beyond that, I'd have to think about it (especially for two sets) but I too feel Steve should be making money on these, as it is VERY cool of him to do what he's doing....

pete

Posted by: nein14 Apr 25 2008, 10:32 AM

Pete
You are on my list from 02/2006, which I will compare with the list Steve has. So as far as I see it you should be getting a kit.

Posted by: horizontally-opposed Apr 25 2008, 10:40 AM

Oh. OH!

AWESOME!

Thanks!

pete

Posted by: nein14 Apr 25 2008, 10:55 AM

I need address for the following member:

eric914
eris shea
kckoch
echocanyons
Marv3.6six
effutuo101
Martin Baker
BKLA
horizontally-opposed
lotus65
davep
RottenRobby
0396
smdubovsky
ge9146
Plan B
jgullock
autohausdolby
cork
Qarl
Lightweight911
RonS.
warrenporsche
GTPatrick

Posted by: hwgunner Apr 25 2008, 12:30 PM

Is this steves list or your list. I still remember sitting th--in the hospital parking lot talking to Steve and being told that I was on the list and NOT to send $$$ yet. He actually called me.

jonathan
hwgunner

Posted by: sixnotfour Apr 25 2008, 12:34 PM

I also called Steve and talked to him, 2 sets right before Martin Baker,
I told him about it.

I also emailed nein14 , about it.

whats up ?
Steve should have my contact info ?



Just found this in this thread , and jonathan too , in the next post.

Posted by: effutuo101 Apr 26 2008, 03:38 PM

effutuo101

Christopher Williams
8823 Holly drive #525
Everett WA, 98208
425.328.5788
Let me know how much I might need two if you have them.

Posted by: nein14 Apr 27 2008, 09:11 AM

I saw and talk with Steve yesterday at Hershey. I know it has taken 18 months to get this to happen but Steve has a very sucessfull business that comes first.

As I said before this was a favor he was doing for (me) and this 914 site that he really isn't making a money on with the first run because of all his time invested and is still very willing to do it.

To clear up any confusion when I started this thread, I started the list based on the number of kits that were going to be maded by Steve and the list was a first come first serve. So when that number was exhausted he told me would then possibly consider making a second run.

If you look at the thread from the begining you will see everyone who posted a reply to me in decending order is on the list I posted.

Hopefully after all the time and money invested Steve has in this project , he will make another run of the kits.

Thanks for everyone's interested

Posted by: echocanyons Apr 27 2008, 12:40 PM

Cool!

I sen you a PM with my info

Kelly

Posted by: 396 Apr 28 2008, 12:01 AM

Just got back from Buttom Willow... Steve and I talked about the upcoming kits last week... he already has my address on my check that I sent to him over a year ago or more ago for two sets....my check has my address on them:)

Thanks

Posted by: ge9146 Apr 28 2008, 11:02 AM

John,

I just sent you a PM with my info. Let me know if you have any other questions. Thanks for your work on this. Thank Steve for all his efforts.

Ed

Posted by: BKLA Apr 28 2008, 12:23 PM

PM sent with info

Thanks!

Posted by: nein14 May 21 2008, 01:05 PM

UPDATE !!

Spoke with Steve this morning, he has installed a kit in a test vehicle to develop the instructions they found after installation that the struts were too strong and they are exchanging them for a weaker one. Also they need to fab one more small bracket and they will be ready to go.

Posted by: BKLA May 21 2008, 01:07 PM

WaaHoo!

Can't wait!

Posted by: Eric_Shea Jul 28 2008, 06:46 PM

John,

Any news on this?

Posted by: 396 Jul 28 2008, 10:26 PM

Spoke to Steve last week.. he encounter another set back of sorts..The struts that he has on hand is way too too strong for this applic. As some of you know, over the years, the rear wings got a little heavy ie Turbo. Thus all current struts have been superceed to the TURBO type... now for the 'hunt' for low pressure one This hunt for the low pressure item has been going on for about a month now. FYI

Posted by: effutuo101 Jul 28 2008, 11:21 PM

Keep us posted, I still want two sets.

Posted by: nein14 Jul 29 2008, 08:00 AM

I was able to find a possible strut that might work, it's rated at 15 lbs. which was the lowest rating after I found after a long search. Steve is going to order a pair and test them, hopefully they will be not be too strong.

Posted by: 396 Aug 5 2008, 11:51 PM

Any further updates??

Posted by: nein14 Aug 6 2008, 07:45 AM

Nothing yet

Posted by: 396 Sep 18 2008, 11:11 PM

Ok..... any further updates with these hood shocks?

Posted by: nein14 Sep 19 2008, 07:41 AM

I wish I could tell you yes, I speak to him at least once a week. He has been just to busy with the shop to do any testing

I will see him over the weekend at a vintage race and will bug the shit out of him, it's been too too long, were so close.

Posted by: Eric_Shea Oct 10 2008, 10:37 AM

Thanks John... keep us posted.

Posted by: 396 Oct 22 2008, 06:35 AM

Any progress? Thanks

Posted by: smdubovsky Oct 22 2008, 07:20 AM

John,
Is there any way to just get them w/o the headlight shocks? (thats one part that we could source ourselves)

Posted by: Vacca Rabite Oct 22 2008, 09:22 AM

I don't have a horse in this race, but the shocks should be the easy part. 30 minutes on the McMaster Carr website should be the end of that problem. I have seen shocks that worked perfectly for this application. I have a set of them sitting in my "future projects" area.

Zach

Posted by: nein14 Oct 22 2008, 09:35 AM

I ask him that, sorry no.

Posted by: nein14 Oct 22 2008, 09:41 AM

I spoke with Steve yesterday, and as you guys know he already has a unit asembiled to test the shocks. I have already sourced a strut that I think will work(15lbs./pressure).

He told me he is trying to get to it asap, but he is very busy. he promised me he will get to it because he has a lot of time any money in this project.

I know you heard this before be a little more patient.

Posted by: 396 Nov 5 2008, 08:17 PM

Any updates?

Posted by: gms Nov 5 2008, 10:45 PM

The shock is a stock 911 part

Posted by: carr914 Nov 6 2008, 06:23 AM

If anybody falls out due to the wait, I'm willing to take their spot for one set

T.C.

Posted by: Phoenix 914-6GT Nov 6 2008, 11:02 AM

That has been said a fwe times here. I know the feeling though T.C.

Posted by: hwgunner Nov 6 2008, 11:18 AM

I would hope that the list would be followed. Early on I got a call from Steve about this and was told to hold my money for a little while. Turns out I am not even on the list to get one from the first batch. Missed it by 2 or three people.

Posted by: BKLA Nov 6 2008, 12:32 PM

For those who may not want to wait - or - not on the first list...

Mittlemotor has a kit.

http://www.mittelmotor.de/webshop/englisch/suche.html

Part No. 0,08980 is the GT headlight kit. It think it is 399.00 euros ( about $510.00 US)

No pic on the website, but I emailed them and got this one...




Update:

Price to US (minus VAT) is 335.29 euro ($429.00 US +/-) plus 49.00 euro (62.60 US) shipping.

Comes with "T" handle for dash mount (not shown.)

Posted by: 396 Dec 29 2008, 02:02 AM

Ok...another year will have passed. Since I''ve been out of town,any further updates?

Posted by: SONAUTO GT Dec 29 2008, 04:17 AM

Mittle Motor's Flag Ship on the Nordschleife.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7O8ePZH5is


Attached thumbnail(s)

Posted by: 396 Feb 18 2009, 11:50 PM

Keeping the interest going... What's the status:(

Posted by: Eric_Shea Feb 19 2009, 09:05 AM

Hi John,

We're entering into the third "year" on this.

I'm sure I speak for all when I say we appreciate your efforts on putting this together and we really appreciate that Steve has gone the extra mile to arrange the parts for this kit.

I hope my preface shows the true gratitude at which I approach this. That being said; do you think we can get some resolution on this? No mallice, just wondering if we should look elsewhere.

Posted by: carr914 Feb 19 2009, 09:23 AM

I no longer have any interest.

I will get the MittleMotor kit

T.C.

Posted by: BKLA Feb 19 2009, 10:22 AM

I committed and I'm still in. (Mainly to support a member who committed to complete them.) But an update about the status is still warranted.

Posted by: nein14 Feb 19 2009, 11:36 AM

I spoke with Steve this morning, and he told if the test on the strut he just got we should be a go, finally.

Posted by: Phoenix 914-6GT Feb 19 2009, 11:52 AM

I'm still interested Even though I'm on the waiting list So anyone that wants to bail you have my blessing

Posted by: Eric_Shea Feb 19 2009, 01:30 PM

I just pee'd myself.

Posted by: 396 Apr 21 2009, 08:12 PM

Ok.. we are into April of 09 now..any new updates?
Do we see day light? Don't get me wrong, I do appreciate the help..but we are going on or past three years now:)

Posted by: racerbvd Apr 21 2009, 08:25 PM

I still want a set too

Posted by: nein14 Apr 22 2009, 06:46 AM

OK, I'm as frustrated as everyone else

I speak to Steve on a weekly basis, he is a 2 man operation and has been extremely busy, and he has apologized to me many times.

That being said he is still commited to completing the kits, the problem has been over the struts being to strong and have the tendency to bend the headlight doors.

I already asked him if he would sell the kits w/o the struts and he answer is no, he wants to have a complete kit with the correct the struts.

So again everyone please hang in there

Posted by: THE STIG Jun 7 2009, 06:41 PM

ANY news?

Posted by: THE STIG Jun 7 2009, 06:42 PM

Anyone drop off the list?

Posted by: effutuo101 Jun 7 2009, 08:54 PM

Nope, still want two sets.

Posted by: RON S. Jun 10 2009, 05:57 AM

I talked to Steve briefly at Hershey this year.

No real news to say other than he still hadn't resolved the strut issue.

My only concern i told him was that the check I sent him for the kit probably wouldn't go through after all this time seeing as to how he hadn't cashed any that were sent to him. He told me not to worry about it, we'd fix that minor issue later.

I'm still being patient.


Ron

Posted by: 396 Jun 29 2009, 11:15 PM

Is it safe to inquire of 'status'

Posted by: RON S. Mar 11 2010, 01:30 PM

Bump,

some one update?????

Ron

Posted by: SirAndy Mar 11 2010, 01:35 PM

This is S L O W L Y becoming the longest running group buy in the history of 914world ...

Andy

Posted by: montoya 73 2.0 Mar 11 2010, 02:32 PM

Is the list still around so I can add myself to it?

Posted by: nein14 Mar 11 2010, 02:40 PM

unfortunately no, sorry all the kits are spoken for.

latest update:
spoke to Steve this morning, presently strut issues were resolved and a set of intsallation instuctions is being worked on as we speak.

he will try to send me a kit for install in my car to see if they forgot anything

Posted by: montoya 73 2.0 Mar 11 2010, 02:43 PM

Put me down as an alternate if someone backs out. Thanks!

Posted by: hwgunner Mar 11 2010, 02:44 PM

I know it has been a long row to hoe for this kit but I would think the list would be this thread if there is going to be another run of these. I can't remember but i think i missed the first run by 2 or 3 people and would hope that I would get a shot at one of the second run kits if they ever come about. My .02

Posted by: jmill Mar 11 2010, 02:44 PM

I'm in if someones out.

Posted by: racerbvd Mar 11 2010, 02:49 PM

Patiently Waiting

Posted by: nein14 Mar 11 2010, 02:51 PM

it will go by the order of the original list from this thread and if anyone has dropped off it logicly does in order of who is next on the waiting list

as far as 2nd run I don't know at this time if there will be one

Posted by: hwgunner Mar 11 2010, 02:53 PM

second run is always easier than the first. Might take half as long!

Posted by: ConeDodger Mar 11 2010, 03:25 PM

I am still in...

Posted by: BKLA Mar 11 2010, 03:49 PM

I'm still in, too!

Posted by: rfuerst911sc Mar 11 2010, 04:48 PM

I took a chance and sent Steve an email today to see if I could purchase a kit.

Posted by: nein14 Mar 11 2010, 07:09 PM

Steve is going off the original list I gave him since I was the one who started the thread

Posted by: 396 Mar 11 2010, 09:23 PM

Great as I'm still in for two sets and he has had my check since day 'ONE'.

So after almost four years, we see some day light

Posted by: rfuerst911sc Mar 12 2010, 01:59 PM

If someone backs out I hope I can take their place.

Posted by: Phoenix 914-6GT Mar 12 2010, 02:00 PM

There is a list for those that are in and another list for those hoping that someone will drop out.

if you're not on either of those...you are likely not going to get one

Posted by: rfuerst911sc Mar 12 2010, 05:06 PM

ok

Posted by: Loser_Cruiser Mar 31 2010, 04:05 AM

Out of curiousity, is there an update on this?

Posted by: Mikey914 Mar 31 2010, 05:43 AM

Are these being made? or do they need to be made?

Posted by: Vacca Rabite Mar 31 2010, 06:47 AM

They need to be made.
This group buy is years old, with no resolution. The people that sent checks would, at best, have to resend them as they have probably timed out by now. Even if it does get finished, there are several people that want them that are not in on the buy.

Zach

Posted by: montoya 73 2.0 Mar 31 2010, 08:49 AM

I am interested in one (1) maybe two (2) depending on price.

Posted by: nein14 Mar 31 2010, 08:59 AM

they are already made and spoken for sorry, according to the list

Posted by: Vacca Rabite Mar 31 2010, 09:15 AM

I think that Mark might be considering making a run of these for his store.
And I would buy them if he did, I think.

Zach

Posted by: nein14 Mar 31 2010, 09:20 AM

With all that it took to get this done making a second run for another vendor to sell I would say is out of the question , sorry
try mittlemotor in germany

Posted by: Phoenix 914-6GT Mar 31 2010, 09:33 AM

Well, not to sound rude but if he gets these done will he have the time to do a second run? Would he be opposed to working with someone like Mark on getting more of these?

I do not believe it would be the goal of anyone to undercut the work that has been done but rather speed up the process since some of us have more time to do this.

Posted by: Vacca Rabite Mar 31 2010, 10:04 AM

I have talked to Steve about these kits twice. Once at Hershey last year, and once in his shop 2 years ago. I like his shop, and am interested in the kits. He does great work. Both times he indicated that he was not interested in making another run. Maybe things have changed, and once he gets all the bugs worked out he will change his mind. But given the fact that it has taken years at this point - literally- I would not hold my breath about it.

I am not suggesting that anyone undercut anyone. I am saying that if Aircooled Racing did not do a second run and Mark (or any of the other quality vendors we have on this site) marketed a kit, I'd be on board. There are a number of people that are interested in these that can not get in on this buy - assuming that it does in fact get finished.

Why support Mittlemotor, when I can choose to support vendors that actively support us?

Zach

Posted by: kconway Mar 31 2010, 10:17 AM

Mark,
I say go for it. Based on what I've seen you put out this would be a snap for you. Sound like there is a need and the parts look pretty simple if you've got the time to put into it. Talk to George, I'm sure he would buy a few to stock also.

Kev

Posted by: nein14 Mar 31 2010, 11:51 AM

I suggested mittlemotor only because it has been another source for the original factory GT headlight kit

As far as Steve go's he did me a favor in fabricating these kits for us from his Max Moritz Real GT. Their was plenty of oppportunity to get in on the start of the thread to get a kit.

The actual cost that Steve had sold them for is less than what he has in material and time to make them happen, so your right there won't be a second run.

And if it was such a snap to fabricate and sell at a reasonably price why hasn't someone done it already

it's a snap when someone is copying what someone else has already done

Posted by: BKLA Mar 31 2010, 12:03 PM

John -

I talked with Steve about two weeks ago and they weren't quite ready. Your note above intimates that they have been sold. Are they now ready?

Either way, I'm sticking with Steve as he has put the time and effort into these. I know first hand the amount of effort it takes with orders for parts here. (And I only did decals!) Please let us know when we need to pay and finalize the deal.

Posted by: montoya 73 2.0 Mar 31 2010, 12:42 PM

Oh sorry, I wasn't trying to say I want in on these. I read where there are two lists, the original list and one "just in case someone drops out" list. I couldn't find either to put my name on so I was just saying that if someone (anyone) made more that I would buy one and maybe two.

Posted by: racerbvd Mar 31 2010, 12:52 PM

I am too, not like I'm actually ready for them, I just hope I'm on the list..

Posted by: SirAndy Mar 31 2010, 01:01 PM

You sure about that?

Because Steve is copying what the factory has already done, and it has taken him 4 years and they're still not done ...
Andy

Posted by: nein14 Mar 31 2010, 02:27 PM

anyone who has followed this thread from the beginning knows I have been in contact with Steve on a weekly basis on the project, so let me be clear they are complete and will be avaliable shortly to who ever is on the list that I gave Steve.

If someone wants to fabricate their own to make avaliable to sell on this site be my guest

Posted by: Mikey914 Mar 31 2010, 02:50 PM

I'm not tring to ruin someone's parade here, but if these are not in process, I do have ties at Mittlemotor and was proposing a group buy if I could get the cost in the right range. That way it would be a proven product and short turn around.

If I'm out of line here let me know, I'm only trying to help, and I don't intend to make this a for profit thing on my side.

-Mark

Posted by: markb Mar 31 2010, 03:04 PM

I have a customer who has done something *similar* to the original that's very cool. Would someone be interested in something that is not an exact copy of the original?

Posted by: amallagh Mar 31 2010, 03:05 PM

Apologies for quoting myself, but it is from 3 years ago ! All very pretentious I know
There is clearly plenty of demand out there beyond the select few on the list for this thread who have now surely reached exalted status for their faith and patience. Anyone who has hung on for over 3 years is hardly likely to drop out now !
If someone else did decide to produce a kit more commercially then I'd be up for one. As someone else has said I'm sure Pelican, AA and Performance Products would all be very interested in selling them on an ongoing basis. As someone has said all kits are just copied variations on the original theme so there is no virgin design that anyone has any claim to any more.

Posted by: rfuerst911sc Mar 31 2010, 03:09 PM

I could care less if it's an exact copy of the original. I want to eliminate the headlight motors and have the headlights go up when I pull a knob,lever,coat hanger etc. just want it to work. So what does your friend have available ? And thanks for chiming in.

Posted by: rfuerst911sc Mar 31 2010, 03:13 PM

Mark I am interested based on price and availibility. I responded to another post here as I'm interested in ANY kit that is reasonable in price and available in a reasonable time frame.

Posted by: gothspeed Mar 31 2010, 03:20 PM

Sounds good, I like these kind of projects. I think I will make a set that will go up and down mechanically on my GT replica .

Posted by: 396 Mar 31 2010, 08:35 PM

The above logic seems correct - except that I 'STILL' use the same bank that I wrote the check on..the only thing is the check number will be out of sequence...and the date.. other wise if the depositing bank attempts to 'deposit' my bank will allow it to flow through - especially since I've never even reported it lost and or to cancel it.

Steve and I've have already addressed this possible bump ..his comment was that he would simply contact said check holder of situation and have them resend a new check... I hope this opens some light to this possible concern... oh yes he also thank everyone for their patience too.

Posted by: Lightweight_911 Apr 1 2010, 03:53 AM

John (nein14) - I'm sure I was on the original list &, in fact, I spoke to Steve on the phone at the time about International orders - is there a way I can find out if I'm still on that original list ?

Posted by: carr914 Apr 1 2010, 06:16 AM

I'd be in.

Sorry John (nein14), but 4 years is a Joke. I'm not on the original list ( I don't think), but if I had sent a check to someone 4 years ago for something and didn't get it, somebody would get a beat-down.

If these ever do get made & shipped, some will be offered up after the fact just like the AA group buy Flares.

T.C.

Posted by: RON S. May 28 2010, 08:33 AM

anyone who has followed this thread from the beginning knows I have been in contact with Steve on a weekly basis on the project, so let me be clear they are complete and will be avaliable shortly to who ever is on the list that I gave Steve.




John,
How do you define ''Available Shortly''???

you posted this back in the end of March, we are now 2 months later.


Ron

Posted by: rsrguy3 May 29 2010, 10:01 AM

This thread seems like a big tease and a cf.

Posted by: 396 Jun 30 2010, 11:52 PM

Are there any further updates?

Posted by: ConeDodger Jul 1 2010, 12:00 AM

Yes, Elvis and Michael Jackson are still dead.

Posted by: 396 Jul 1 2010, 07:45 AM

Ya there's always one in the crowd

Posted by: bandjoey Jul 1 2010, 10:52 AM

I have it on good authority that they're not dead, but instead living on a sheep ranch in Montana and working on the GT kits in the barn. The kits would have been available sooner, but Elvis needed help. Now with Michael there, the kits will be available really soon.

Posted by: Eric_Shea Jul 1 2010, 11:17 AM

One thousand three hundred and sixty-five days and counting. Approaching the 4 year anniversary on this group buy.

If you put $0.32 cents per day in a cookie jar you could hit the Mittlemotor site today and buy the actual "GT" version of this kit... not the Meaney version.

Now, if you put that same money in the market, you could probably be re-bounding by now with enough to buy a rusty 914!

If you calculate the amount of time you've spent re-checking this thread, you would find that you've actually lost more money than these things would have cost you if they were to ever come to fruition.

Posted by: BKLA Jul 1 2010, 11:25 AM

It's been so long that the 914 that I planned to put these on was sold and shipped to england years ago! Still have the race car and was considering putting this kit on that.... if the kit is ever completed.

Posted by: Phoenix 914-6GT Jul 1 2010, 11:40 AM

Same here

Posted by: Eric_Shea Jul 1 2010, 11:47 AM

Pssssssssst... Tip: start putting a quarter a day in a cookie jar!

Posted by: Phoenix 914-6GT Jul 1 2010, 11:48 AM

I was until my son found a good way to get to it

Posted by: racerbvd Jul 1 2010, 11:56 AM

Laugh all you want, I still want a set & hope that I'm on the list..

Posted by: Eric_Shea Jul 1 2010, 01:44 PM

OK...

Posted by: SirAndy Jul 1 2010, 01:57 PM

17 pages?


"Die Hard 1367™. The Group Buy edition."


This has to be a record of sorts ...
Andy

Posted by: daveyboybadion Jul 1 2010, 02:53 PM

Count me in for one set depending on price...daveyboy

Posted by: MikeSpraggi Jul 2 2010, 04:48 AM

I would like a set as well. My first 914, after driving it for a little over a year went to the shop to get repaired and then refreshed. 13 years later, $10k into it and still in the shop, it was scrapped. This can only happen once, right? So I'd like to be in on this if there is room. I have high hopes!

Posted by: RON S. Jul 8 2010, 09:32 AM

does anyone remember how long George at AA took to perfect and finalize his reproduction steel flares???

I think he still has the record, but it looks like one day it's going to be broken by this one.

Ron

Posted by: BKLA Jul 8 2010, 09:59 AM

Yes, I'm on the original list along with a whole bunch of others..



Wake me if this ever happens...

Posted by: 396 Oct 20 2010, 07:39 PM

ok.. we are going on almost 5 ..yes five years.. does any one have any insight on completion date- light at the end of the tunnel:(

Posted by: Eric_Shea Oct 20 2010, 09:37 PM

Everyone jumped ship and went to the other group buy.

Here:
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=111225

I may have one available if you're interested. I bought one but, due to the extra welding etc., I may not use it.

Posted by: montoya 73 2.0 Oct 21 2010, 01:39 PM

You don't have to weld them in.

Posted by: 396 Aug 20 2011, 07:28 AM

This 'Group' Buy is going on 5-6 years long now.
Has any one be able to contact Steve for an update or is this one of those....checks in the mail and one day it will show up kind of situation?

Posted by: RON S. Aug 20 2011, 04:58 PM

You actually think Steve is going to answer the phone to field calls about the staus of the GT headlight kits?????????????

He's cashed my check years ago, and as far as I'm concerned, I wrote him off about the same time.

I bought the GT kit that Mikey offered from MittleMotor last year.
Hold your breath and hope for a miracle if you want to but I'm done with the guy.

There are words for someone who takes someone's money and doesn't give them their product for it.

5 Years, come on.

Just my 2 cents worth.
Ron

Posted by: 396 Aug 20 2011, 10:32 PM

Thanks for the info.. sorry to hear of you being RIP OFF!!!
THAT means that I was most likey BENT OVER for TWO sets too... !!!
I never thought to check my bank account - after sending it!!!!! - STUPID me for being so trust worthy ....lesson learned .. Next week I WILL attempt to ask him to 'SEND' my check back!

Ya I have words to say about folks that rip others off.. except I can not post it.

Thanks!

Posted by: 396 Aug 22 2011, 10:24 PM

Well, i attempted to call / contact Steve 4 different times..and no one pick-up.I;m not sure if he has caller ID and what - bit no answer

i will attempt tomorrow again.. Hey nein914..any updates on your end??

Posted by: sixnotfour Sep 25 2011, 10:53 AM

From this thread: http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=145105

Posted by: nein14 Oct 25 2011, 10:53 AM

TO EVERYONE WHO HAS BEEN WAITING INCLUDING ME!!! STEVE APOLIZIES. I WAS AT STEVE SHOP AND HAS THE KITS READY WITH EXCEPTION TO THE INSTALLATION INSTUCTIONS.

HE HAS HAD SOME LIFE CHANGING ISSUES NO EXCUSE , HOWEVER HE IS STILL COMMITED TO COMPLETION OF THE KIT, THAT BEINGING SAID I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH PEOPLE WHO MAKE FALSE STATEMENT THAT THEY HAVE BEEN RIPPED OFF!

I HAD A OPPUNTUNITY TO SEE ALL THE CHECK FOR PAYMENT THAT WERE SENT FOR THAT HAVE NEVER I REPEAT NEVER BEEN CASH!!!

I HAVE TO SAY SOMEONE NEEDS TO APOLIGIZE FOR THE FALSE STATEMENT THE THEIR CHECK WAS CASHED AND THEY WERE RIPPED OFF!

Posted by: Vacca Rabite Oct 25 2011, 11:11 AM

I am glad that you checked on that. Last Time I was at Steve's shop he had not cashed the checks, but it has been a while. He did not strike me as that kinda guy, though I had stopped suggesting people visit him after RonS post.

Steve has always been helpful and honest in my dealings with him, but you only buy what he currently has ready to sell. Waiting for stuff to get made can take a long time and he is easily distracted.

Zach

Posted by: kg6dxn Oct 25 2011, 11:18 AM

Most banks will not honor a 5 year old check.

5 years?

Posted by: kconway Oct 25 2011, 11:23 AM

After a 5 year wait I wonder how many kits he'll get stuck with?

Posted by: nein14 Oct 25 2011, 11:59 AM

IT IS NOT ABOUT THE 5 YEARS THAT HAVE PASTED BUT THE FALSE STATEMENT THAT WAS MADE BY SOMEONE HERE THAT SAID HE IS A THEFT !!!

WHICH IS SIMPLY NOT TRUE, WHICH MAKES THE PERSON THAT MADE THE STATEMENT A LIAR, AND HAS MISLEAD EVERYONE HERE !!!

Posted by: nein14 Oct 25 2011, 12:00 PM

HE WON'T GET STUCK WITH ANY

Posted by: kg6dxn Oct 25 2011, 01:05 PM

For you it may not be about the 5 years. To the people that gave checks (albeit not cashed) it looks and smells like a rip off. I beleive you; Steve is not a theif. But... 5 years??? Have you personally accounted for every check? Maybe there is more in the 17-18 page thread that explains the delay. Regardless, 5 years is too long to wait. Steve should have returned all payments until he was ready to ship product. 5 year old checks are not any good anyway. No reputable bank will cash a check that old.

Posted by: nein14 Oct 25 2011, 01:22 PM

HE NEVER ASKED PEOPLE TO SENT HIM CHECKS WE HAD A LIST OF PEOPLE WHO WERE GOING TO BE IN LINE TO GET THEM WHEN THEY WERE FINISHED.

THAT IS NOT THE POINT OF MY COMMENT IF SOME PEOPLE HERE SENT CHECK IT IS EASY TO HAVE YOUR BANK TELL YOU IF IT WAS CASHED PERIOD!

YOU DON'T MAKE A STATEMENT IN A PUBLIC FORUM THAT YOUR CHECK WAS CASHED AND STATE THAT STEVE IS A THIEF! THAT HAS MISLEAD EVERYONE ON THIS SITE .

Posted by: BKLA Oct 25 2011, 01:36 PM

I was on the original list and I'll happily take two if others back out.



Good things come to those who wait.... and wait... and wait....

Posted by: kconway Oct 25 2011, 02:04 PM

Dude,
is there something wrong with your caps lock key?

Posted by: SirAndy Oct 25 2011, 04:27 PM

Turn off that damn CAPS LOCK key already ...

Posted by: carr914 Oct 25 2011, 04:55 PM

What about the THEFT of everyone's Trust that they put into this for 5 Friggin Years. I'm glad that I didn't get caught up in this Scam.

If People weren't waiting for Info on their Money & Kits, I feel that you and Steve should have been BANNED . Heck you should be Banned for the excessive use of Caps!

Posted by: nein14 Oct 25 2011, 05:18 PM

Posted by: RON S. Oct 26 2011, 07:17 AM

I want to publicly Apologize to John, Steve, and the rest of the users and members of this board forum.

A couple of months back I made a reply to a last posting on this thread.

John, you are fully correct in your request, my comments were made in the heat of thought on this issue, not thoroughly thought through, and did not belong here.

I apologize, and it will not happen again.

Ron

Posted by: nein14 Oct 26 2011, 10:17 AM

I spoke to Steve this morning the check has that have never benn cashed from members on this site including the liar is a total of 4, one of which is for a double kit.

At this point Steve will return the checks and money order if requested, call Steve @ 717 432 4116
her are the members who sent payments in 6/07:

1 Kit Ron Szymanski (aka) money order for $339.00 NOT CASHED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1 Kit Kevin Koch personal check for $339.00 not cashed

1 Kit Jeff Robert personal check for $339.00 not cashed

2 Kit Peter Louie personal check for $678.00 not cashed

Posted by: 396 Jan 2 2013, 09:52 PM

Nein14,

What ever became of this Group Buy that you started in Oct 3 2006?
I ask, because some of us sent in checks. I was able to get hold of Steve several months back. He mentioned its coming and that he was waiting on you for some test fit info.

Any updates is much appreciated

Posted by: tscrihfield Jan 2 2013, 10:19 PM

I just want to post and say this looks like a very painful thread! Omg I just read it... Not sure why but I was hoping for a happy ending... To my surprise, this is friggin awful!

Posted by: Mikey914 Jan 2 2013, 11:59 PM

We actually did get the GT kits from Mittlemotor for what it's worth.

Posted by: ConeDodger Jan 3 2013, 12:11 AM

FWIW, I was on that list and I was asked not to send a check until the kit was fully developed. It never was, I never sent money. Not sure what the drama is about...

Posted by: BKLA Jan 3 2013, 08:19 AM

Posted by: Eric_Shea Jan 3 2013, 10:42 AM

Alright... let's call it a day on this. People being mean to each other. John gets mad when people ask about stuff. It's self evident that this is never going to happen.

Mittlemotor has been making the accepted more "standard" version of the GT headlight kit for some time now (not the Meany version). Mark Whitesell even brought some into the country for a reasonable price.

We have a thread that's 2239 days old. If you saved just $0.25 per day you could now pay cash for these (at today's exchange rate and a reasonable amount to ship them):

http://www.mittelmotor.de/webshop/englisch/mm.htm

Train wreck is officially over.