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Posted by: Mueller Nov 7 2003, 06:20 PM

As seen on eBay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2441762120&category=33615

I'm somewhat confused by this statement:

Posted by: kwales Nov 7 2003, 06:33 PM

Depends on your definition of "real"........

This guy could get the "sales ho" of the year award for a statement like that...

And he might slapped with the largest "false advertising" judgement ever for a type IV

Ken

Posted by: Qarl Nov 7 2003, 06:46 PM

Hey.. it is almost 2.8L and has a TURBO...

But it's not in a 914, so the old adage doesn't neccessarily apply!!!!

Posted by: Air_Cooled_Nut Nov 7 2003, 07:12 PM

Egad! There's no filter on the turbo intake At a minimum, for an off-roader, there should be something to protect that impeller! Tsk tsk.

Posted by: GWN7 Nov 7 2003, 07:19 PM

I think the big white thing on top is the filter. The pipe sticking backwards is the exaust, which comes from the trubo, but we all know you can't turbo a TIV (think I read that somewhere)

Posted by: Air_Cooled_Nut Nov 7 2003, 07:21 PM

I know what I'm looking at. Air has to pass INTO the turbo before it goes into that box. An air filter in the box is useless for cleaning the air that the turbo sucks in.

Posted by: URY914 Nov 7 2003, 07:22 PM

I want it for my car.
I could set the land speed record for 914's

Paul

Posted by: Rob Ways Nov 7 2003, 08:10 PM

Dude, your fenders would blow off!!!!!

Posted by: fiid Nov 7 2003, 08:16 PM

Yeah - that would suck in gravel and damage the turbo badly.

Also - the air cooling instake draws air over the turbo - that can't be good.

I don't believe it - I think it would cost more than that to get that kind of output from a type IV.

Posted by: street legal go-kart Nov 7 2003, 11:13 PM

i might be a big dumb ass but i dont belive we are looking at a type 4 engine here
from what i can see this appears to be a type 1

jt

Posted by: Mark Henry Nov 7 2003, 11:26 PM

Sorry big dumb ass but it is a T4.

As for the hp claims all I can say is "cough-cough -bullshit-cough".

nuff-said.

Posted by: p914 Nov 8 2003, 12:45 AM

I had a guy near where I used to live and he was sandrail fanatic. He said they were all looking for 914 engines to soop up and put in their rails. It seems to be the engine of choice for a number of them.

Posted by: airsix Nov 8 2003, 01:22 AM

It's the age old story.

Guys with type-I's want type-IV's
Guys with type-IV's want early sixes.
Guys with early sixes want a 3.0
Guys with a 3.0 want a 3.2
Guys with a 3.2 want a 3.6
Guys with a 3.6 want a bigger hootus.

-Ben

Posted by: Brad Roberts Nov 8 2003, 03:12 AM

Um guys..

Your all lost. There is NO reason why this thing doesnt lay down 320hp.

Britains 2.3 liter engine will lay down 250-260 when we are done.

Competition engineering is a pioneer in turbo applications. They hold several VW pro stock racing championships with their type3 Notch full tube chassis pro stock car running a type 1 "based" engine.

They know what they are doing and I personally beleive him.

Think about it. Jake laid down what ?? with his 2.7 type4 ?? 220-240 ?? adding 60hp with a single turbo is not far fetched.

*warning* asshole statement ahead:

You guy's need to pull your head out of the sand.


B

Posted by: SirAndy Nov 8 2003, 04:34 AM

ooops, he did it again ...

Posted by: Brad Roberts Nov 8 2003, 04:38 AM

Did what ?? (dont fool with mother nature)


B

Posted by: SirAndy Nov 8 2003, 04:53 AM

the whole "Asshole" myth kinda thing ...

Posted by: dan10101 Nov 8 2003, 07:26 AM

I'd have to agree with Brad. If you look at the 944 2.5 turbo, there are many cases of near 400rwhp cars. This is with marginal heads.

My point is.. the Type 4 with proper heads (like Jake is proposing) and matched engine components and turbo could easily put out that kind of HP.

The engine is a big pump. Pump in lots of air and proper fuel mixture and pump out lots of HP. The only real differences between a 944 2.5 and a type 4 2.5 is the head.

Yes, it's 5:30am, I've been up all night babysitting 8 sugared and videogamed teens. They're still going strong, I'm probably not making any sense at all...

Posted by: Andyrew Nov 8 2003, 07:30 AM

ummmmmm sugar!!!!!


I agree with dad.

Doom engine ring a bell?

Andrew

Posted by: Tom Perso Nov 8 2003, 08:40 AM

I think that motor could easily make that much HP. I think it would make more if it had a proper induction system... IE, ditch the carbs and run FI with a full computer system.

Now, chuck those POS 105's out the window and throw in a set of LN's Nickies and you have a decent motor that will haul ASS and not blow up in a day.

105's suck.

Again, let me state...

105's suck.

Tom

Posted by: Mueller Nov 8 2003, 09:43 AM

I have no doubts at all of the hp that can be achieved with this motor, it's the way he wrote the hp "claim".

is the hp;
estimated
or
real (proven)?

Posted by: SirAndy Nov 8 2003, 01:39 PM

no, but i really liked the game

Posted by: tracks914 Nov 8 2003, 01:48 PM

I believe that it is possible to get that kind of HP from a T4 but my question is this, will the rest of the motor take the abuse of 340hp? To get 1000 hp from a turbo CART engine is easy @ 65 inches of boost but just one little itty bitty thing go wrong @ 17,000rpm and poof...its all gone.

What rpm would you have to run this engine at to get 300+ hp. You won't do it @ 5000rpm. Maybe 8000rpm+ and would the T4 crank and bearings take that kind of forces? Would the connecting rod and pistons stay together for very long?
I just wish I had the money to try.

Posted by: URY914 Nov 8 2003, 04:38 PM

I agree, 320hp but for how long?
Those sand rails don't really "hook up" to put any stress on the drive train like a car on pavement does.

OK, disagree with me now.

Paul