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Posted by: snflupigus Nov 12 2006, 01:31 PM

I cant break the nut free with it on the car because the body is so light if lifts off my cart when i put my breaker extension on. I used a "club" between the lug nuts angled to the ground to keep the assembly from from rotating since the brakes and everything have been removed. I bent the club! I think I'll have to wait to rebuild my rear arms until the rest of the car can be put back together!!

Maybe I'll just find a set that is dismantled and send those off to eric instead. It looks like he does some good work with rebuilding them. better than I could.

aside from that trouble, i guess i should have dismantled the front suspension while it was still on the car too, instead of taking it off as one big assembly. shit.

thats what i get for getting excited and in a hurry to get the car down to a shell...

Posted by: anthony Nov 12 2006, 01:42 PM

I bet you could get it off with an impact gun.

Posted by: Aaron Cox Nov 12 2006, 01:43 PM

they are torqued to over 200 lbs....

Posted by: Mueller Nov 12 2006, 01:44 PM

good reason to get an air compressor

Posted by: anthony Nov 12 2006, 01:45 PM

And your point is? My IR impact gun does 600 foot pounds in reverse.

Posted by: Mueller Nov 12 2006, 01:45 PM

I bought an impact gun that is rated to 650ft lbs at Home Depot, works great for a $60 or so tool

Posted by: mikez Nov 12 2006, 01:49 PM

Pull the whole swing arm and put the hub in a LARGE vise.....

Posted by: Mid_Engine_914 Nov 12 2006, 02:23 PM

I used an electric impact wrench (450 ft-lbs) to remove my axle nuts but I had to use the wrench on the fast impact setting for about two minutes continuously to do it. Unlike a breaker bar, the impacts from the wrench don’t produce any noticeable torque that would lift your car’s body.

Posted by: So.Cal.914 Nov 12 2006, 02:26 PM

One thing that can help is heat. Use a torch and heat them up real good and then use your impact.

Posted by: bottomend Nov 12 2006, 04:00 PM

I've been in a battle with mine for a week and I'm now gonna try taking out the whole arm assembly and deal with it on the work bench.

Posted by: 736conver Nov 12 2006, 04:30 PM

Impact gun. If you dont have one and have the arm off take it down to your local mechanic. He should be able to buzz it off.

Posted by: mikez Nov 12 2006, 04:32 PM

20/20.................always break the nut loose with the engine and trans in....even if you don't think ya need to do so.....

Posted by: LvSteveH Nov 12 2006, 04:54 PM

Impacts don't use a lot of air, so you could even buy one of the 5 or 7 gallon portable air tanks, fill it up with a little 12 volt compressor or at a service station to 120psi. The tanks are handy to have around, and impacts can be had for as little as $20. Potentially less than $50 and you'd have the setup around in the future when needed.

Posted by: bottomend Nov 12 2006, 05:00 PM

I used an impact wrench already. No luck. I have a friend who has a preey good set up and it did NOTHING to the nut.

I'm still trying to figure out where I'm supposed to "tap " on the cv joint to get it separated from the stub axel. There is NO ROOM inside the swing arm to tap on the side of the cv. this stuff probably belongs in my CV removal thread but if anyone has a good idea on how to get them out... please tell me!

Posted by: Headrage Nov 12 2006, 05:04 PM

See if you can find someone with a torque multiplier. I used one when I pulled the rear hubs and it came loose like Z with the trots...




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Posted by: 736conver Nov 12 2006, 05:26 PM

Trust me a professionally mechanic will have a powerful enough impact wrench.

Posted by: LvSteveH Nov 12 2006, 06:35 PM

I agree, find better equipment. For $200 I've got 1000lbs of torque in reverse, it can break 1/2 bolts if the nut is frozen without issue.

Posted by: snflupigus Nov 12 2006, 07:25 PM

I've got an impact and a 33gallon standup air compressor. My impact wont even remove lug nuts... (came with the sears compressor, should have known it would be a piece of shit) So I guess thats the next tool I must invest in. I think I will go buy a little torch too, have been meaning to get one of those too. As for the impact I havent needed one, the ol hand tools do the trick, i only use the compressor for sanding and grinding etc... (which does annoyingly take a lot of air) - So most of the time I resort to electric for that too. Come to think of it, I rarely use the compressor.

Posted by: anthony Nov 12 2006, 10:02 PM

Instead of a cheap gun get something like this:

Posted by: 736conver Nov 13 2006, 01:55 AM

Yea a 33 gallon wont do much of anything but put air into your tires. I had the craftsman 30 gallon years back. Sand for 1 minute wait another 5 for the pressure to build up. I now have a 80 gallon tank and it seems like the air lasts for ever.

Posted by: LvSteveH Nov 13 2006, 11:44 AM

You guys are a tough crowd. ONE 5 gallon tank was enough to loosen all the lug nuts on my car a couple days ago. No compressor attached, just 120psi. It was pretty close at the end I'll admit, but having a 33gal home compressor is not the problem here. I do all manner of work, and the only tool that makes me wish I had more air is a die grinder with a cutoff wheel. I can cut about a foot, then it goes into limp mode and slows considerably. I agree 80 gallons is nice, but you can do anything including paint and sand a car with a 33 if you have the right equipment. Someday I'll get a big tank, but it's no where near the top of my wish list.



Now go buy a quality impact like the one pictured and let the madness stop.

Posted by: 736conver Nov 13 2006, 01:20 PM

Its not nessacarily the amount of air but the CFM. But thats awhole nother ball of wax. Long story short your craftsman oilless compressor aint going to cut it. Its going to keep running and never have enough CFM for your tools. BTDT

Posted by: Series9 Nov 13 2006, 01:32 PM

I have a quality IR (600ish ft-lb-in-reverse) that won't even think about removing the rear stub nuts.

I use two floorjack handles: One placed across two of the studs on the hub to prevent the hub from turning and one on a large breaker bar on the castle nut. I frequently have to bounce my full weight on the 4' arm to break them loose. We actually broke a breaker bar on Leo's bus when he needed to do his rear brakes on his trip through ABQ.

Of course, this only works with the suspension installed on the car......

Posted by: Eric_Shea Nov 13 2006, 04:22 PM

I have a large piece of angle stock with holes drilled in one end of it for the lug bolts. This holds the hub in place when it's off the car.

I then use a combination of heat (MAPP torch) and air wrench. I had to go acetylene once...