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Posted by: Mike T Mar 6 2003, 06:56 PM

Do the PCA and POC have clearly defined rules for when a car is considered tube frame construction?

Do you have to start with a pile of tubing and contain no original tub structure? Or can you add enough tubes to a stock tub to cause it to be considered a tube frame car?

Mike T.

Posted by: Racer Chris Mar 6 2003, 09:32 PM

In PCA Racing the rules for all the GT classes require the tub to be intact from shock tower to shock tower, however some allowance is given for suspension upgrades which alter the shock mounting, eg. coilovers. Also the bodywork must be recognizable as that model Porsche, such as used in other race series or historic racing.
Cars modified in excess of those rules are placed in GTP, regardless of performance potential, and race with 962's etc.

Posted by: MJHanna Mar 7 2003, 07:50 AM

Read the PCA club rules, a true tub car like Brads is NOT PCA legal in GT, the one that I have for sale is more what PCA would consider Legal. http://www.pca.org/pca/clubrace/ The cause of the definition was when Bob Norwood created DOOM II to club race PCA. http://www.bobnorwood.com/Norwood%20Album.htm see the car in picture “Texas World Speedway 1997” They said it was not in the “spirit” of Club racing. finger.gif

Posted by: seanery Mar 7 2003, 09:19 AM

Is this supposed to be based on a teener?
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Posted by: MJHanna Mar 7 2003, 09:30 AM

I can’t remember if the front shock towers and the firewall were either a 911 or a 914, the engine was a 944 turbo with a Tiltion clutch mated to a G-50 trans mount mid engine. aktion035.gif

Posted by: MJHanna Mar 7 2003, 09:43 AM

The evolution went like this: happy11.gif

Posted by: MJHanna Mar 7 2003, 09:44 AM

then Doom 1 fighting19.gif

Posted by: echocanyons Mar 7 2003, 09:45 AM

The Doom II car had FI inspired suspension.
Excellence did a article on it a few years back that car was Genius unfotunately the only thing that resembled Porsche were the 911 doors

Posted by: echocanyons Mar 7 2003, 09:46 AM

If I remember right it was stolen and never recovered

Posted by: MJHanna Mar 7 2003, 09:59 AM

It was Doom1 ar15.gif
"Norwood's $500,000 Porsche creation made its appearance in 1995 - the racer DOOM. It was a supercar with ultra-high-tech fabrication utilizing components, of Indy cars and other radical cars put to use in a new way. The 3.6 supercharged engine designed to last 24 minutes did the job beating every competitor. The record remains unbroken. DOOM, named after the biggest selling computer game of all time that helped to finance it, disappeared on July 31, 1995 - stolen from outside Norwood's fabricating shop and not seen since."

Posted by: SirAndy Mar 7 2003, 12:13 PM

QUOTE(MJHanna @ Mar 7 2003, 07:59 AM)
DOOM, named after the biggest selling computer game of all time that helped to finance it, disappeared on July 31, 1995 - stolen from outside Norwood's fabricating shop and not seen since.

i bet John Carmack stole it biggrin.gif

man, i miss those DOOM weekends. played from friday afternoon til monday morning, non-stop, just pizza and pee-breaks ...
ahhh, the good old days!

ar15.gif mueba.gif fighting19.gif

Posted by: seanery Mar 7 2003, 01:11 PM

Andy,

Counterstrike and Day of Defeat!

I start playing after work and look up at the clock and it's been 5 or 6 hours!!

Posted by: SirAndy Mar 7 2003, 01:19 PM

QUOTE(seanery @ Mar 7 2003, 11:11 AM)
I start playing after work and look up at the clock and it's been 5 or 6 hours!!

yepp, time flies when you play.
i'm still doing the occasional Quake3 Arena or Team-Arena,
but these kids are getting better by the week. (or is it me getting old?)

"Return to Castle Wolfenstein" has the best single-player story/play i have seen so far ...

back to work ... aktion035.gif

Posted by: seanery Mar 7 2003, 01:23 PM

I wasnt too impressed with Return (the mac version). I was outputting some video on the pc so I couldn't play anything on it.

Have you tried CS or DOD?

Posted by: SirAndy Mar 7 2003, 01:34 PM

QUOTE(seanery @ Mar 7 2003, 11:23 AM)
I wasnt too impressed with Return (the mac version). I was outputting some video on the pc so I couldn't play anything on it.

Have you tried CS or DOD?

dunno about the MAC version. think you need a nice video card though biggrin.gif

i just put it on hardest setting and played through it in one weekend aktion035.gif

i really liked the missions, graphics, ambient etc.,
only thing that was disappointing was the end. that guy was way to easy to beat.

yeah, played CS a lot. don't anymore. too many bots and cheaters. same with Quake3, somehow takes the fun out of it ...

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