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Posted by: Carlitos Way Nov 16 2006, 10:54 PM

I ordered a set of the Stainless steel (DOT approved) steel lines from the bird board. No mention of any adapters needed. It turns out the hoses are female to female... which is fine for the end that goes to the frame... but how do I get them attached to the calipers?

I don't see any mention of any adapters needed... or perhaps I've got the wrong lines?

Any experience with the Bird's lines?

Posted by: Crazyhippy Nov 16 2006, 11:09 PM

Assuming you are dealing w/ the fronts, there is a "S" shaped hardline that the braided line attaches too... You'll see it when you take everything apart.

Call me if you get lost, i can hand the phone to someone that knows what they are talking about while i'm @ the BBQ.

BJH

Posted by: Carlitos Way Nov 16 2006, 11:11 PM

QUOTE(Crazyhippy @ Nov 16 2006, 09:09 PM)

Posted by: Crazyhippy Nov 16 2006, 11:14 PM

rears are hardlined along the bottom of the trailing arm, and only soft around the pivot... Go look, stop trying to put it together on your desk.

Posted by: Carlitos Way Nov 16 2006, 11:17 PM

Here is the problem. First picture: The line actually BROKE when i was trying to remove it from the caliper.




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Posted by: Carlitos Way Nov 16 2006, 11:18 PM

So I went to the bird board and ordered "stainless steel lines" assuming they were the same ones. You can see the "nipple," or rather the piece that broke off the old line, that fits into the caliper between the two lines.


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Posted by: Carlitos Way Nov 16 2006, 11:24 PM

I'm guessing I need something like this... but with a METRIC thread.


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Posted by: eg914 Nov 17 2006, 12:03 AM

I recently replaced all four lines with stock type, the ends looked like those on the braided lines in the photo. It looks like your hard like broke at the caliper. That is what you should be looking for. The flexible lines do not connect directly to the calipers on this car. They are female on both ends to accomodate the fittings on the ends of the hard lines.

Posted by: Aaron Cox Nov 17 2006, 12:10 AM

you need another stock hardline.

hardline goes from caliper to trailing arm. soft line or braided line goes from trailing arm to body mount...

Posted by: Eric_Shea Nov 17 2006, 09:59 AM

SS lines don't replace hard lines. They replace the rubber soft lines.

Posted by: Carlitos Way Nov 17 2006, 10:06 AM

Sounds like it's time for another Bird order

Thanks for the input guys!

Posted by: Carlitos Way Nov 17 2006, 10:55 AM

Does anybody have a part number and source for the steel lines that go from the control arm to the caliper?

Posted by: 2-OH! Nov 17 2006, 04:36 PM

Eric Shea:

Are the hard line fittings and the caliper threads metric or are they US standards...

If US standards, you can buy the lines with fittings, various lenghts at any FLAPS and bend your own...You better be a good bender though...They are small lines...

2-OH!

Posted by: SirAndy Nov 17 2006, 04:41 PM

QUOTE(2-OH! @ Nov 17 2006, 02:36 PM)

Posted by: Eric_Shea Nov 17 2006, 04:43 PM

Bad news is, those (metric) hard lines are NLA. You'll need to have them made up and bent. I may try a local outfit here and have a bunch made...

Posted by: 736conver Nov 17 2006, 04:50 PM

They are still made you just have to buy it in kit form, the whole car, made by cohine. As for bending them its not hard. Just use a brake bender or various round items. I made some nice bends using a glass beer bottle.

Posted by: Carlitos Way Nov 17 2006, 07:06 PM

Would you happent o have contact info for Cohine?

Thanks!

Posted by: Crazyhippy Nov 17 2006, 08:34 PM

Carlos, you should be able to get the hardlines from Napa, or similar. They are a 10mm bubble flare. Measure the lenght you need (+or-an inch) and call around for one. They might only be available in 12, 15 or 18" lengths, so be sure it will fit. I can bend it up in no time if need be, or use a bottle and have at it.

BJH

Posted by: Carlitos Way Nov 17 2006, 10:19 PM

Thanks guys!!!

THe fix was as BJ said: $4.19 at NAPA. Standard length. Metric? no problem! Guy knew exactly where they were and he even showed me. I picked up 2 lengths just in case. Turned out the short one was just perfect. I believe it was 18 inches.

Thanks a lot for all your help!!!

Posted by: Crazyhippy Nov 18 2006, 12:31 AM

I'm gonna have a beer in my honor

OK, maybe 3.. you guys talked me into it

BJH