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Posted by: boxsterfan Nov 11 2003, 10:02 PM

For those who have leaking rear windows (that would be all of you), this might be a bit gruesome.

Can this sail panel be fixed without cutting it out and replacing with a whole new (to me) one?

http://ron.virtualcyber.com/img/DriverSailPanel_0147.jpg

http://ron.virtualcyber.com/img/DriverSailPanel_0148.jpg

http://ron.virtualcyber.com/img/DriverSailPanel_0149.jpg


This car is planned to be acid dipped. If this can be fixed with fiberglass or other material, what can be done to help protect the inside of the sail panel? I stuck a flashlight up to it, and of course. there is surface rust all over inside the panel. Is there a "foam" that could be squirted in there? Or squirt as much POR-15 as possible in there and then fill with a water resistant foam? Or....?

Posted by: Andyrew Nov 11 2003, 10:31 PM

From what I have heard, foam is bad, the foam may be water resistant, but the metal isnt... I would cut it open so you could clean the area better, and then por 15 the area.. Dont know..

Andrew

Posted by: type47fan Nov 11 2003, 11:13 PM

What sail panels? Those pics look like shots of the Titanic!

Seriously, best of luck with the resto. . . .

Wayne (type47fan)

Posted by: SirAndy Nov 11 2003, 11:32 PM

NO foam
NO fiberglass

if you go through all the hassle of acid dippin the car, do it right (dude!).

get a rustfree replacement from a donor car.
in fact, i think we have what you need here at the shop on the "needs to be thrown away" pile.

weld it up with REAL metal !!!!

Andy

Posted by: kafermeister Nov 12 2003, 06:11 AM

What else ya got in the 'needs to be thrown away' pile? I'm looking for a similar piece but for the other side.

Posted by: boxsterfan Nov 12 2003, 09:35 AM

If you have some in a throw away pile, I'll take one for the drivers and passengers side. The passenger side has similar rust. How much? Let me know...

Otherwise, this car is being dipped assuming it will come back out of the vat.

Seems like if I dip the car in acid and then POR15 the inside of the sail panel (since a rather large access hole will now be present) that using fiberglass to re-do or re-create the missing section would be the best. Maybe 914's cause fiberglass to rust...

Posted by: mr914 Nov 12 2003, 09:39 AM

There is rust in Arizona?

I agree, find a suitable donor car and replace the back structure. Use a replacement sail panel from Resto Design.

I would then Por-15 the inner portions (that are not were you would be welding. Treat the rest of it with a Zinc primer and weld it up.

I definately would stay away from foam or fiberglass.

Posted by: SirAndy Nov 12 2003, 10:46 AM

PM brad and ask him ...

Posted by: SirAndy Nov 12 2003, 10:47 AM

PM brad and ask him. he wanted to take pictures for quite a while now ...

Andy

Posted by: SirAndy Nov 14 2003, 12:32 AM

boxsterfan,
i took a pic of the part on the junk pile today.
let me know if that's what you need.
it's rust free, the black stuff you see in the pic is just overspray.
(i used it as a "table" for painting little parts )


Andy


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Posted by: SirAndy Nov 14 2003, 12:32 AM

nother


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Posted by: SirAndy Nov 14 2003, 12:32 AM

backside


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Posted by: Brad Roberts Nov 14 2003, 12:36 AM

Rick,

The right side was toast (the guard rail went up the side of the car).


B

Posted by: Bleyseng Nov 14 2003, 02:11 AM

Hmmm, could that be Jenny's old ride?

Geoff

Posted by: Brad Roberts Nov 14 2003, 02:27 AM

The last few pieces.


B

Posted by: Van914 Nov 14 2003, 06:13 AM

Restoration Designs makes the panel both left and right. $119 each

http://www.restoration-design.com/

Van914

Posted by: kafermeister Nov 14 2003, 06:25 AM

Moopheus/Brad, Thanks for checking. Got anything in the lines of a front left fender? That's the only one that I don't have yet.

After your report, I was wondering if that was Jenny's old car. Geoff seems to have nailed it.

Van, thanks for the tip. I checked RD's website first to see if anyone was actually making that panel. I'll go that route if I haven't acquired anything by spring.