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Posted by: tracks914 Dec 4 2006, 08:49 PM

After looking at different types of mirrors for 914's I decided to try some that I hadn't seen. Many posted to my thread and their mirrors looked great too but these were free (in typical 914 fashion) so I just had to try them.
They took a bit of reworking, fitting into the curve of the door and I had to make steel supports for inside the door but I think I am going to be happy with the final product next year when I paint the car and mirrors together.
The primed steel supports will be welded inside the door when I am done but for a total cost of nothing I think they will do.
BTW they are electric ( I got the switch free too) and I plan to hook them up when I am done.

First the mirrors....


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Posted by: tracks914 Dec 4 2006, 08:50 PM

The door drilled out to match the pattern...


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Posted by: tracks914 Dec 4 2006, 08:51 PM

The steel supports...
These were welded inside the doors between the mounting holes. When the mirrors were installed they pulled nice and tight and the mirrors are firm. Without them the mirrors might wobble a bit on the thin sheet metal.


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Posted by: tracks914 Dec 4 2006, 08:52 PM

Other side...
Nuts were ground on an angle before welding to pull the mirror square to the door.


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Posted by: tracks914 Dec 4 2006, 08:52 PM

Mirror on door..


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Posted by: tracks914 Dec 4 2006, 08:53 PM

more


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Posted by: tracks914 Dec 4 2006, 08:53 PM

nuther


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Posted by: MW 914 Dec 4 2006, 08:54 PM

I like the steel support idea! Much more room for error as compared to tacking on a couple of nuts to the door itself.

Posted by: tracks914 Dec 4 2006, 08:54 PM

and last for now
I'll post again in a year or two to show the final product.


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Posted by: Rand Dec 4 2006, 09:00 PM

LOL.

Nice work Doug. I love seeing new ideas. The mirror looks pretty cool. Well done on the mounting work!

Posted by: fat73 Dec 4 2006, 09:16 PM

Schwwweeeeeet! There's nothing worse than trying to adjust a right side mirror by hand while driving.

Ed aka W9R1

Posted by: 736conver Dec 4 2006, 09:19 PM

Awesome

Nice work

Posted by: jim_hoyland Dec 4 2006, 11:30 PM

Really nice; what year Olds are those mirrors from ?

Posted by: tracks914 Dec 5 2006, 04:59 PM

Mid 90's delta 88 but I think the same mirrors are on the Riviera and a couple of other GM cars.

Posted by: tracks914 Jan 10 2008, 07:30 PM

And here they are on the freshly painted P2 project car.


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Posted by: tracks914 Jan 10 2008, 07:43 PM

Nuther one


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Posted by: BIGKAT_83 Jan 10 2008, 07:45 PM

Damn nice...................... and the pick and pull is full of those mirrors.

Car looks really good also.

Bob

Posted by: Headrage Jan 10 2008, 08:02 PM

Nice work!!!!

Let us know about visibility/adjustability, etc....

Posted by: roadster fan Jan 10 2008, 08:16 PM

Let me take a wild guess why the car is white...........oh wait all the vehicles in this pic are white

Did you have the wing/quarter window in place when you chose the mounting spot? I had to adjust my Miata mirror for that on the passenger side so the window channel didnt partially block my view of it.

Looks nice, good choice IMHO.

Jim

Posted by: Dr Evil Jan 10 2008, 08:54 PM

I had been eye-balling those for a while. I am glad someone did it before I tried it That looks perfect!

Posted by: seejay5 Jan 10 2008, 09:05 PM

Looks Good!

Posted by: carr914 Jan 10 2008, 09:14 PM

They look like the mirrors on my Aurura

Posted by: boxstr Jan 10 2008, 10:35 PM

That is "THE " best looking NARP mirror I have seen. Those are great.
Craig C. Laughlin

Posted by: Root_Werks Jan 11 2008, 10:13 AM

What a great looking mirror. Did you have to modify the curve of the base to get them to sit right? That is one thing that I don't like about installing Porsche Flag mirrors on 914's. You have to modify the base to get them to sit correctly.

Well done!

Posted by: andys Jan 11 2008, 10:51 AM

Very nice indeed!

I nearly went the Ford Escort route; found some real nice one's at the Pic-n-Pull but was missing a couple of tools at the time.

Maybe I should sell my brand new 911 take-off flag's, get some of those Old's mirrors from Pick-n-Pull, and put the rest of the money in the bank!

Andy

Posted by: andys Jan 11 2008, 11:00 AM

Doug,

Forgot to ask: I understand the nut plate, but how does the mirror attach from the outside? I see no outside screw/bolt/latch.

Thanks,
Andys

Posted by: charliew Jan 11 2008, 01:05 PM

I think those are the best it could be. I think maybe the protruding threaded pedistals on the bottom off the mirrors stick through so far that the nuts are really spacers to make it all pull up square. I'm a fiero guy also and those look better than the fiero even. I once put 69 mustang cable control mirrors on my beetle made into a pickup in 69 along with the then new larger tail lights of the new bugs. That 914 looks exactly like I want mine to look. I want to use the new three coat diamond white gm uses. You picked a better looking rear spoiler than my choice. I think I will switch to the one you used, sorry to be a copy cat but your choice is better than mine and I haven't really started yet so now is the time to switch ideas. The mirrors are a beautiful choice. I haven't decided on a plan on how to get the flares exactly perfect in position. I'm going to try for extra width in the rear as I have some 18x11 turbo carrera wheels. I guess I'll mount the wheels and go from there. I am also going to try to use a one piece glass instead of the vent wing window. One door I have is bent and I have a replacement so I can practice on it.

Charliew

Posted by: tracks914 Jan 11 2008, 05:46 PM

Charlie is right. The protruding parts under the mirror go tightly through the nuts welded on the door supports. I then just used a hex head course thread sheet metal screw (one that was small enough to NOT split the protruding mounting holes) from inside the door to ratchet them into place.

As for contouring the mirror to the door. I had an old rusty door I used as a template and pre-drilled the mounting holes to get just the right spacing and angle. I then used a small Dremel tool to contour the under side of the mirror to fit the door. It isn't perfect but with the original black gasket between the mirror and the door you would never know it.

For visibility on the passenger side, I tested the location before I drilled any holes. It's close but you can see the mirror OK.

Thanks for the compliments, I think they look great too. The best part is they were cheap, look good and on a scale of 1 - 10, (1 being an oil change and 10 being a complete restoration) this job was about a 2.5. The only reason I say as high as 2.5 is because I had to fill the old holes and paint the door and mirrors. I still haven't hooked up the wiring but that will be the easiest part I'm sure.

Posted by: tracks914 Jan 11 2008, 06:03 PM

Charlie:
Imitation is the best form of flattery, go for it and let me know if I can help.
When you put on your flares, find a good landmark to start with. I had my car on a rotisserrie and had nothing on it, only the chassis. To put mine on I measured from the back bumper mount to the back of the flare inside lip. What I didn't know was that for some reason it was different from side to side by 1/2". (maybe an accident in the past??) I didn't realize this until after I painted the car and tried to fit the rocker panel covers on. One was too short but they were both the same length. Dope!
I haven't tried to put my turbo twist 17" rims on yet but I'm hoping that it won't show too much. I will always know and some day I might cut it off and move it forward but for now....

Posted by: toon1 Jan 11 2008, 07:52 PM

those look great, nice work!

Posted by: McMark Jan 11 2008, 07:53 PM

Those are good looking mirrors! Nice work!

Posted by: Mikey914 Jan 11 2008, 08:00 PM

I like those allot.
I have a Premier body kit that those would look sweet with.

Posted by: tracks914 Jan 11 2008, 08:21 PM

With this kind of response I should have picked up a bunch of sets, made a bunch of door supports and sold them!

Posted by: Rob Ways Jan 11 2008, 10:53 PM

Very nice. They don't even look ricer either....

Posted by: scotty b Jan 12 2008, 08:20 PM

I think I just made up my mind for my 6. Color confirmed, interior confirmed, mirrors confirmed, as for the time.............

Posted by: effutuo101 Jan 12 2008, 09:03 PM

Let me know where to send the $. Those are very nice!

Posted by: smj Jan 12 2008, 11:38 PM

I may not have been reading carefully enough, but can somebody compare the level of effort for these GM mirrors to the level of effort for Porsche flag mirrors? Sounds like some reshaping was required for both...

Posted by: tracks914 Jan 13 2008, 09:54 AM

The reshaping for the under side of the mirror was about 10 minutes work with a dremel rotary tool. The REAL work will be filling the old mirror holes and repainting the door.
You don't have to make the door support mounts, with a spacer over the mounting studs and a big screw you could mount them. They are on the radius which is the strongest part of the door. After all the bodywork I was doing, I just didn't want to take the chance that they would flex and kink the door so I added the supports.

Posted by: michaelt55 Jan 13 2008, 03:57 PM

sounds like you made a product that might be in demand...if you decide to do this, give me a pm..I would be interested!

Michael

Posted by: tracks914 Jan 22 2008, 07:00 PM

Print of mirror location.
Open it and maybe you too can put some on your car.


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Posted by: effutuo101 Jan 22 2008, 10:07 PM

Thank you!

Posted by: plymouth37 Jan 23 2008, 07:24 PM

Those look great! Good find!

Posted by: nick mironov Aug 21 2008, 08:01 PM

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Posted by: charliew May 29 2009, 10:37 PM

I've started looking for the olds mirrors and have found replacement ones on ebay but the ad says they are oem replacement but it also says they are plastic. Are the oem mirrors plastic? Just trying to get the best ones available to start with. Sorry but I have asked this question on another thread also.

Posted by: tracks914 Aug 17 2009, 10:22 AM

Yes mine are plastic, painted and cool.