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Posted by: McMark Dec 10 2006, 12:21 AM

BIG NEWS!!!!

The schedule has been changed slightly. Renting the autocross course for a private event wasn't possible for the number of cars we will have in attendance. So now we are piggybacking onto the Empire Sports Car Association (ESCA) AX in Santa Rosa on Saturday. Because this change unexpectedly increases the cost, there will be $30 track fees if you want to autocross. I will be contacting everyone who signed up to notify them of this change. I will need to know AHEAD OF TIME if you will be participating. The ESCA insurance will only cover club members. I will be paying all of the join-up dues for those who will be participating. This also means that spectators are unfortunately not allowed unless they pay $20 to sign up. This will be a great alternative and the ESCA people are a great group of people. We just didn't have enough signups and staffing to run a private autocross when decision time rolled around.

So, the new schedule is:

Friday - Arrive, Meet & Greet, Beer-N-Brats
Saturday - ESCA Autocross
Sunday Morning - Wash-N-Shine, Car Show, Tech Quiz
Sunday Afternoon - Coastal Drive and Group Pictures
Sunday Evening - Closing Dinner, Raffle, Thanks
Monday Morning - Goodbyes

The official participant sign up sheet is now available. You must register for the event to participate. Please sign up http://www.914world.com/wcr_signup.php.

ALSO: I have decided to run the event under the PCA 914 SIG umbrella. The SIG will supply event insurance, funds, as well as other benefits. I'm very excited about this move! So the West Coast Classic is now known as the West Coast Ramble!


HOTEL
The http://www.dtsonoma.com/ is the hotel for this event and is now set up to accept registrations. Here is the info straight from the horse's mouth...



Rooms are $155 per night, which is the going rate for a decent hotel in NorCal.


DATES & SCHEDULE
Dates are June 15-18. This is fathers day weekend.

The schedule of events is:

Friday - Arrival, check in, hang out.
Saturday - Drive
Sunday - Wash-N-Shine Show, judging, tech sessions, dinner, awards ceremony
Monday - West Coast Classic only AX




I will add details as they become available.




It's gonna be a great event!

Posted by: Andyrew Dec 10 2006, 12:22 AM

Where at exactly??

6 months away!! ahh!!

Posted by: Aaron Cox Dec 10 2006, 12:23 AM

"where?"

and why did bill give you internet access? LOL

ill be there!

Posted by: Crazyhippy Dec 10 2006, 12:32 AM

Gotta rep the 94.... try again 94... dammit

914 club

Posted by: Aaron Cox Dec 10 2006, 12:48 AM

that sounds soo familiar....

Posted by: Andyrew Dec 10 2006, 12:54 AM

What did I do now???

Uggg.. I need more hours in the day...

Posted by: Grimstead Dec 10 2006, 02:06 AM

Only 5 replys?? Did you tell them it's going to be at your house?

That's it, WEP going back up in 5....4....3...2....

Posted by: McMark Dec 10 2006, 02:15 AM

Hehehe, Hi Bill!

BTW, I remembered other Bills, specifically Bill Pickering. But Bill is still a weird name.

The event will be in Rohnert Park, CA. Lots of great roads and scenery. I'm so excited to have the hotel locked down. Now I can get on the planning 'the fun stuff'

Posted by: Elliot Cannon Dec 10 2006, 02:23 AM

You gonna tow it up?

Posted by: Gustl Dec 10 2006, 04:14 AM

any chance to point this out on a CA-map - for guys which are not so familiar with this area

Gustl

Posted by: reverie Dec 10 2006, 05:51 AM

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Posted by: DNHunt Dec 10 2006, 07:21 AM

Yahoo, let's get the countdown started.

Posted by: Jeroen Dec 10 2006, 07:39 AM

way to go Mark!!!

Posted by: Gustl Dec 10 2006, 07:43 AM

many thanks



I've no idea about the distance to San Francisco ... how long would a road trip take?

Gustl

Posted by: DNHunt Dec 10 2006, 08:17 AM

I think that depends on the time of day. Mapquest says 48.5 miles, 78.3 k, 1 hr.

Dave

Posted by: Jeroen Dec 10 2006, 08:19 AM

Gustl,
SF is just outside the bottom edge of the picture

Posted by: Gustl Dec 10 2006, 08:20 AM

many thanks

Posted by: Gustl Dec 10 2006, 08:23 AM

thanks Jeroen,
that was pretty clear for me - but the map has no scale info, so I didn't know if it's 50 miles or 500 miles

but now this mystery is solved

Gustl

Posted by: jim_hoyland Dec 10 2006, 08:28 AM

Congrats for the decision and getting 2007 going

Posted by: spare time toys Dec 10 2006, 08:52 AM

We came out there for a trip couple of years back and went up HWY 1 to Mill Valley and cut back over to San Rafael through Fairfax. I think I about killed the rack and pinion on the rent car More twists than Chubby Checker doing his dance. "Thats Twists for you younger guys"

Posted by: J P Stein Dec 10 2006, 10:08 AM

I ain't much for "drives" & drinkin'/BS sessions....call me anitsocial if you will, but I am big on AX. If there is an AX on Saturday/Sunday in the bay area, I could make this and the WWC AX on Monday......I need a plan

Posted by: Rotten Robby Dec 10 2006, 10:29 AM

JP I would bet my helmet between the 'CCA and the PCA and even the ESCA and other clubs, you may be able to autocross the tires off that Yeller Beast... All these clubs should be publishing schedules soon.

Posted by: Porsche Rescue Dec 10 2006, 10:49 AM

Now I've heard it all: JP "ain't much for BS". Ya sure!
Since I have moved south, Rohnert Park is only 360 miles away. Need to mark the calendar.

Posted by: Mueller Dec 10 2006, 10:54 AM

only 74 miles away !!!!

that means that if my 914 breaks down, AAA can tow me back home, hahahaha

Posted by: mikez Dec 10 2006, 11:14 AM

Aw crap....I'm in.

I can help trailer up Howie or SLITs. Having a support vehicle and trailer will prolly help.

BTW...when ya says "Monday - 914Club only AX"

Care to expand?

Posted by: Headrage Dec 10 2006, 11:21 AM

I think my wife has plans for us to be in Turkey visiting her folks.

I never stay as long as she does so hopefully I'll be able to schedule my trip around this.

Posted by: boxstr Dec 10 2006, 11:23 AM

Let me know when you will need sponsors.
Lets see Fathers Day, Wifes Birthday, L.A. Roadster show, WCC.
CCLINDECISIONSDECISIONS

Posted by: McMark Dec 10 2006, 11:25 AM

Z, my only implication of the AX at this point is to say that we are not piggybacking on anyone else's event. We are renting the AX space ourselves and we'll be the only ones out there.

Posted by: effutuo101 Dec 10 2006, 11:33 AM

I see a road trip in my near future... a road trip with high speed sections followed by very twisty roads.....I see vineyards to drop my wife off for the day.... I see....a new set of tires shortly after. I am going back to the garage to get the latest round of cleaning done.

Posted by: J P Stein Dec 10 2006, 12:29 PM

I should clarify.
I got nutin' against BS when booze isn't involved.
To paraphrase an old bartender friend.
"I can't stand drunks unless I'm drunk too"

Posted by: pete-stevers Dec 10 2006, 12:44 PM

WHOO HOO!!!!!!!!!!
i can't wait...Sher and I will be there....
we would like to contribute some how....

Steve

Posted by: Rotten Robby Dec 10 2006, 01:05 PM

Bring Groceries Grocery Boy!

Posted by: Rotten Robby Dec 10 2006, 01:09 PM

I agree. I bartended in college and after seeing how stupid people who were drinking were acting I did a lot less drinking myself.

JP I perused the obvious Nor Cal Autocross sites to see who has a schedule up and only SCCA SFR Sacramento Chapter has anything on the schedule so far and it doesn't line up. But the good news is no one has anything on the schedule yet so surely something will line up for you. ESCA and Redwood Region both use Charles Schultz so the chances of them having an event on Saturday and or Sunday are fair as well...

Posted by: Trevorg7 Dec 10 2006, 01:10 PM

Bummer - The absolute worst weekend during the summer for me.

So much already booked for the 16th and 17th.

T

Posted by: pete-stevers Dec 10 2006, 01:28 PM

dun't think i can bring veggies through the quarantine ....
but if we are doing a barbie...i can bring some great farmer sausage...
its harder to keep stuff cold in a cooler when the oil cooler is going to be running hot...perhaps i 'll tow the harlot behind the jeep.....mmmm short wheel base jeep with a full loaded trailer.....36hours of driving...we will see...

Posted by: SirAndy Dec 10 2006, 02:16 PM

except, you didn't count for the bay area traffic ...

gustl, if you flew into san francisco (SFO) which is south of the city, you would drive up 101, get off on 19th street which takes you through the city (golden gate park), back onto 101 and over the golden gate bridge and all the way up to Rohnert Park. 101 narrows down from 3 lanes to two lanes after Novato and traffic on a weekend will be horrible, all the way from the airport up to Rohnert Park ...

you'd be lucky to make the trip in 2 hours ...
Andy

PS: having said that, just fly in a bit early, get a nice rental car, spend a few hours in San Francisco, walk the Golden Gate Bridge, and then head up to the WCC.
if you get in early in the morning, you can spend all day sight-seeing and you don't have to rush things ...

Posted by: Brando Dec 10 2006, 02:30 PM

Oh shnap, that's a ways up there.

I'm only going this year if:

1.) I get the new engine in my 914
2.) I get the bodywork done (and primed)
3.) I do not, absolutely do not have to drive through fucking San Leandro.

Sounds fun

So, when is the SWCC07?

Posted by: jkeyzer Dec 10 2006, 02:50 PM

THANK YOU for once again making the WCC in my backyard! n

Looking forward to it!!

Posted by: Gustl Dec 10 2006, 03:21 PM

Andy, if I really could manage this, be sure that I won't fly 10 or 12 hrs in one direction just to visit the WCC'07 and nothing else ... this event would have to be embedded in a 2 (or 3?) weeks holiday ...

But there's a lot of time till the WCC - and lots of things might happen ...

anyway, many thanks for explanation

Gustl

Posted by: URY914 Dec 10 2006, 03:52 PM

Only 2,943.36 miles.

Looks like I'll be flying in again.

Can I borrow a car for the a/x???

Posted by: Brando Dec 10 2006, 04:29 PM

Bring me a gallon or two of bondo and I might have a 944 for you to borrow

Posted by: J P Stein Dec 10 2006, 05:24 PM

Since ya didn't beat me at the last WCC AX you can have another chance at this one

BTW, you're one of the few....maybe the only, that hasn't beat me in my own car

Posted by: Bruce Allert Dec 10 2006, 05:59 PM

So what Hotel did ya lock in with? The Double Tree???

.....b

Posted by: URY914 Dec 10 2006, 06:59 PM

OK, I'll try again. This time I'll use the brakes.

Posted by: nocones Dec 10 2006, 07:30 PM

Mark,

Let me know if I can help in any way. I'm only 5-10 minutes up the road in E. Santa Rosa.
I may even have my car running with a little luck!

Posted by: dekman Dec 10 2006, 11:09 PM

A/X to be held where??? Mark? I thought you were working on track time at Infineon Raceway? "Fathers Day"......how about picking a non-holiday?

Posted by: Andyrew Dec 10 2006, 11:11 PM

Track time at infineon would be my choice by far!!! Heck.. I'd pay 200 more for that..

Posted by: trekkor Dec 10 2006, 11:19 PM

I'm ready for the details now.


KT

Posted by: nebreitling Dec 10 2006, 11:21 PM

totally unrealistic, guys. there are plenty of other options for people to get track time at infineon, anyway. if the AX is where i think it's at anyway, it will be extremely cool and potentially very fast. Sounds like Mark has planned out an awesome extended weekend for everyone!

Posted by: SirAndy Dec 10 2006, 11:43 PM

infineon is waaaaaay out of our league at this point ...


the AX *will* be great, and yes, the location allows ofr some rather fast sections ...
Andy

Posted by: mikez Dec 10 2006, 11:46 PM

Ya have to pass tech inspection....Ahhhndy is the head scrutineer....

Posted by: Dr. Roger Dec 11 2006, 01:43 PM

You can avoid driving through San Leandro by crusing straight up Highway 1. =-)

It'd be one heck of a drive. More twists than Chubby Checkers.... that was a good one.

Posted by: grantsfo Dec 11 2006, 02:17 PM

Wait a minute! ...I though all you guys were rich now? Shouldnt we be at Infineon with personal garages etc?

It would be cool to have AX at the Santa Rosa airport. I might even make it for that one. Make sure to put the go kart section in the AX if its there!

Posted by: trekkor Dec 11 2006, 02:26 PM

When will the details be made public?

Santa Rosa is great for a/x's up to about 50-60 drivers.
After that it gets a little difficult.


KT

Posted by: McMark Dec 11 2006, 04:50 PM

Um, when they're finalized. Do you think I'm just holding things up my sleeve?

Posted by: SirAndy Dec 11 2006, 05:20 PM

how does "when we have them" sound?

Andy

Posted by: trekkor Dec 11 2006, 05:34 PM

So, if I understand this "announcement thread", it's dates only and details as to the actual functions is still unknown and could potentially cause the dates to change, too?

Got it...



KT ( i'm a big mouth sometimes )

Posted by: McMark Jan 11 2007, 12:45 AM

This event is STILL ON! Hotel reservation info is coming next week.

Posted by: Hammy Jan 11 2007, 02:41 AM

Awesome!! I was worried it wasn't gonna happen..
Looks like I'll be going this year

Posted by: jkeyzer Jan 11 2007, 12:04 PM

Sweet! Keep us posted.

Posted by: Krimee Ariver Jan 11 2007, 12:23 PM

You know what's great about Car Gatherings???

No one gives a rat's ass about which person visits which car site.
It is truly about the people and the cars.
Hopefully this will become a global site announcement

WCC should be all about having fun

Posted by: DNHunt Jan 11 2007, 12:29 PM

It's sure nice to see something encouraging. I can hardly wait.

Dave

Posted by: morph Jan 11 2007, 01:19 PM

i look forward to this event every year im glad to see its a go.i may go to the atomic this year too!
hiedi is talking about coming with me this year
james

Posted by: reverie Jan 11 2007, 05:30 PM

Thank god. This is gonna be woot!

Posted by: dinomium Jan 11 2007, 06:37 PM

Right on! I need to start getting some new Yoga moves lined up...

Posted by: fiid Jan 11 2007, 07:13 PM

Sweeet! California here I come!!!

Oh wait...

Posted by: McMark Jan 22 2007, 08:35 PM

Hotel reservations are now available. The information has been added to the first post in this thread.

Posted by: Hammy Jan 22 2007, 08:43 PM

Mark, maybe I missed it but I don't see a name for the hotel on the first post?

Posted by: McMark Jan 22 2007, 08:44 PM

Whooops. I'll fix it now...

Posted by: rdauenhauer Jan 23 2007, 12:15 AM

thats only about 800 miles
Should be able to do that in 10-12hrs

Posted by: craig downs Jan 23 2007, 01:50 AM

Looks like a very nice place

Posted by: Marty Yeoman Jan 23 2007, 02:42 PM

Any idea of room cost??

Posted by: McMark Jan 23 2007, 03:32 PM

Rooms are $155 a night. There is a golf course on location and a great restaurant. Event fees will be kept low in order to counterbalance the room cost. There are still some details to work out, but my feeling right now is $50 registration. You can reserve the room right now, but you aren't charged until you check out. I'll put all this info in the first post.

Posted by: DNHunt Jan 26 2007, 10:01 AM

Yahoo, ressy made

Dave

Posted by: McMark Jan 26 2007, 02:48 PM

Posted by: DNHunt Jan 26 2007, 05:27 PM

I hope to come down the coast with my daughter and then spend a day or 2 knocking around Frisco before the festivities. I can barely wait.

Dave

Posted by: jkeyzer Jan 26 2007, 06:41 PM

Will my engine be done by then?

(McMark, that is not a rhetorical question.)

Posted by: trekkor Jan 26 2007, 11:11 PM

Not to be a jackalope, but where is the AX being held and who is providing the insurance and timing equip, cones, etc?

Thanks


KT

Posted by: McMark Jan 26 2007, 11:42 PM

The AX will be at the Shultz Airport. I have a few routes to go down for insurance and a particular avenue hasn't been decided upon. All are viable though, so it won't be an issue.

Posted by: trekkor Jan 27 2007, 12:37 AM

I can give you the e-mails of the RR-PCA new and past president and current a/x director.
Set it up as a "PCA a/x" with only 914's. Pretty simple, really.

Have you thought about using the Infineon paddock?


KT

Posted by: Dr. Roger Jan 27 2007, 01:22 AM

Let's see...


Finish paint.
Get the new Dr. Evil safety wired CV bolts in.
Break a few more parts during the next shake down.


Then I'll be ready.

Nobody better make fun of my hoopty!

Posted by: McMark Feb 19 2007, 01:48 PM

New info added to the first post...

Highlights:
Registration is now open http://www.914world.com/wcr_signup.php.
The event is now sponsored by the PCA 914 SIG and will now be called the West Coast Ramble.

:

Posted by: jkeyzer Feb 19 2007, 02:23 PM

All signed up!

Posted by: Headrage Feb 19 2007, 02:39 PM

Wow, it looks like I may actually be able to make this.

My wife just called and said it looks like her and my daughter will fly to Turkey on the 14th, so that frees up the 15th for the drive up....

Posted by: Porsche Rescue Feb 19 2007, 08:35 PM

Not that the name matters all that much, but does anyone know the history of the term "ramble"? I know there has been a midwest ramble for several years. Does the term have a broader meaning as a car event (like rally or cruise in), or was it created by 914 enthusiasts?

Posted by: mikez Feb 19 2007, 08:40 PM

PCA and the SIG.....

Porsche Club of America and the Special Interest Group...

Posted by: effutuo101 Feb 19 2007, 09:11 PM

All signed up. Tomorrow, I book the room

Posted by: Demick Feb 19 2007, 10:30 PM

Signed up and looking forward to it!

Demick

Posted by: rick 918-S Feb 20 2007, 11:12 PM

Mark, I just wanted to say your doing a very nice job on this. I can't make the event. My youngest son graduates on the 15th. Very nice work on the event planning and sponsorship opportunities.

Posted by: McMark Feb 20 2007, 11:19 PM

Thanks Rick. We'll miss you!

Posted by: grantsfo Feb 21 2007, 12:09 AM

Is that Ramble or Rumble? Will there be an AX?

Posted by: McMark Feb 21 2007, 12:59 AM

Check the first post. Monday is the private West Coast Ramble AX.

Posted by: ClayPerrine Feb 21 2007, 08:20 AM

From the 914Sig site...

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"The History of SIG Events

Before the 914 SIG was formed in 1998, there were several groups organizing events. The current Mid US 914 Rambles have borrowed ideas from several of these prior events.

The first big Porsche event in the world, was the Porsche Parade, first held in 1956 by Potomic Region of the Porsche Club of America. This event has grown to be the Premier Porsche event in the world. It's format and name have been copied by clubs around the world. In the US, many PCA Regions put on "mini-Parades" each year. Many of these multi-event, multi-Region activities are quite famous and historic, having been started over 30 years ago.

In the 914 arena, several Clubs started inviting other owners to get together in the mid-'90's. In 1995, Perry Kiehl organized an event in Lake of the Ozarks, Missouri. In 1996, Rich and Diane Johnson took over and held one in Hot Springs, Arkansas. The next year, they again held one, but this time in Branson, Missouri. Unfortunately, the 1998 event didn't happen. These first 3 events were organized under the "914 Renegade Club" umbrella and called "Renegade Festivals".

John Dunkel and Ed Villela also organized a 914 gathering in 1997, held in Virginia Beach, Virginia. John called it a "914 Ramble". Another Ramble was held in 1998, in Woodstock, Connecticut. These East Coast events were sponsored by Rennlist, since John had some influence with them.

Alan Barrilleaux wanted to meet some of the people he talked to on the Rennlist, so he suggested that the owners in the central part of the US again organize something (everything else seemed to be on the two coasts). Charlie Davis suggested that we form a Special Interest Group, as a part of PCA. This would give us access to liability insurance coverage for the activities we anticipated.

The 914 SIG was founded in late 1998 as a part of PCA. We asked John Dunkle to allow us to use the "Ramble" name and he graciously consented. Thank you, John! We really like that name. In 1999, the first Mid US 914 Ramble was held. All the previous ones on the East Coast (and the future ones, too) became, by default, East Coast Rambles. We tend to refer to them by the shorter ECR and MUSR handles. Note that the ECR was the inspiration for the original MUSR, and that without RennList and PCA, the event would not have happened.

There was a 2000 914 event on the West Coast, organized by John Larson. It was initially called a "West Coast Ramble", but someone revised the spelling to "Wramble", because they are mostly attended by wascally wabbits? Thus the initialism is "WCW". This event was not sponsored by any club or organization.

Rich and Diane Johnson were an integral part of the MUSRs, having experience with the earlier Renegade Festivals. The first MUSR was in Hot Springs, Arkansas, the second in Fairfield Bay, Arkansas, and the third in Solana, Texas.

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The page has not been updated in a while, but the MUSR has been going on for 9 years now, and number 10 will be in Late September/Early October in Austin, Texas.

We had one "West Coast Wamble" in 2000. John Larson (aka Capt'n Crusty) put it together. I heard it was great! Brad Roberts promised to put together the next one. It never happened.

This all was long before 914club ever showed up on the internet.

Posted by: DNHunt Feb 21 2007, 08:36 AM

Mark

I may have signed up twice. You'll recognize the screw up. I need to send a check. Can you get an addy up?

Dave

Posted by: Porsche Rescue Feb 21 2007, 10:29 AM

Thank you Clay. It is good to know the history.

Posted by: McMark Feb 21 2007, 10:42 AM

Check info is now part of the sign up page. I'll PM you Dave...

Posted by: Scott Carlberg Feb 21 2007, 01:36 PM

..IT was GREAT, I was there, the Cap'n & his wife put on an Awesome event!

Posted by: markb Feb 21 2007, 02:27 PM

There was also a West Coast Wramble in Reno, NV in 2002 put on by Rich Herzog. It was a great event (I got to go for a "spin" on the AX course with Mueller ). It was sometimes referred to as the "Wramble in Wreno".

Posted by: RoadGlue Feb 21 2007, 03:16 PM

Thanks for putting this together Mark. I'm signed up, need to send you a check as soon as I confirm that Sylvie will be coming along as well. Let me know if you need any help with the routes. We can also run some of the roads in advance if you have the time.

Posted by: McMark Feb 21 2007, 03:29 PM

How's your Saturday looking? I'll even bring my 914.

If the weather cooperates.

Posted by: RoadGlue Feb 21 2007, 03:33 PM

Saturday sounds great! Rain or shine works for me. They're saying 20% chance for showers, so it shouldn't be much of an issue.

Meet here at my place, do some preliminary planning and then head to RP and run the route(s). Sound good? What time works for you?

Posted by: BigDBass Feb 21 2007, 03:44 PM

What would be the airport of choice to fly to for the event?

Posted by: RoadGlue Feb 21 2007, 03:46 PM

San Francisco, Oakland and Sacramento airports are all about 1 - 1.5 hours from Rohnert Park.

Posted by: ClayPerrine Feb 21 2007, 06:06 PM

I am trying to schedule a business trip for either the week before or the week after this. If I can do it, I will be in Chino. Is anyone from there going to this event? I would love to hook up with a 914 for the event, and turn in the rent car at the Ontario Airport.

Toast... do you want a ride along mechanic?

Posted by: BigDBass Feb 21 2007, 09:34 PM

Hmm, my wife needs to schedule 3 or 4 days in San Francisco for work at her convenience.

Posted by: Aaron Cox Feb 21 2007, 11:28 PM

duh... look at a map.

you are between both my residences.....
10 minutes from my apt at school....

Posted by: ClayPerrine Feb 22 2007, 07:21 AM

Yea.. but if I have a choice to ride with your ugly, Napoleon Dynamite on Crack face, or with a beautiful redhead, I am definitely going to choose the beautiful redhead!

Posted by: grantsfo Feb 23 2007, 08:11 AM

Which venue are we planning to use for AX? Shultz Airport in Santa Rosa? I think I can get away for the Monday event. Since I dont have road legal 914 currently can I drive my Miata to other events?

I'm all registered and will send a check!

Posted by: McMark Feb 23 2007, 09:34 AM

Yep, Shultz. The event is all about the people. If you can bring a 914, great. But regardless, we're just happy to get together with each other, with or without a 914.

Posted by: Tobra Feb 23 2007, 09:53 AM

Okay, here is a silly question.

I can't devote as much time as this to a second event in a month and a half(Alpine 500 is doing 5th and final run last weekend in April), just can't do it, sort of overcommitted in general. Would it be considered bad form for me to show up Saturday morning, ogle cars in the parking lot and chase after y'all up and down Oakville Grade, or wherever you happen to be driving that day, then drive home?

Posted by: ClayPerrine Feb 23 2007, 10:20 AM

Sure.. I assume that it will be handled like it was at the MUSR. At the MUSR, we said if you wanted to just come for the drive, then you had to sign the PCA waiver form. If you wanted to participate in any of the events where you could end up with a trophy, then you had to pay the entry fee to the whole event.


If you want to display your car at the car show, you are welcome to, but it won't be judged unless you pay the entry fee. And the reason for that is the entry fees pay for the trophys and the venue, and such.


That's the way it was handled at the MUSR. Now McMark may have other ideas.

Posted by: Rotten Robby Feb 23 2007, 10:35 AM

Clay, you DO have a choice. Go to your Chino meeting, get the beautiful Toasty one to drive you up to Sacramento on the way to Rohnert Park, She knows the way as she has Peeps in North Highlands, and you can use my Bumblebee for the event. Don't worry. Fully insured. Very reliable. Goes like hell!



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Posted by: ClayPerrine Feb 23 2007, 10:37 AM

Now that is a hell of a nice offer. I wonder if the airlines will have a problem with me bringing my helmet on the plane??

Toasty one... would you be so kind as to drive me up the coast??? Please don't make me ride with that overgrown brat Aaron. :beg:

Posted by: Headrage Feb 23 2007, 10:50 AM

Clay,

I don't know when or where you are flying in but I'll be dropping my wife and daughter at LAX on the 14th and heading back to Bakersfield then leaving for the WCR Friday morning.

I'd be more than happy to get ya there...

Posted by: McMark Feb 23 2007, 01:57 PM

Clay, you explained that very well. Tobra, the registration is only $25. If you're going to come on the drive, you're gonna wanna eat the lunch that's provided. And that's what part of the $25 is for. And BTW, come Friday night and crash in someone elses room. Friday is a hoot!!!

Posted by: fiid Feb 23 2007, 02:03 PM

I'm in.

Posted by: Dr. Roger Feb 23 2007, 03:43 PM

stupid question:

if we're under the PCA does that mean all cars will need to be porsche powered??? as opposed to SCCA which allows any power plants...

Posted by: fiid Feb 23 2007, 05:25 PM

No - we're fine. Local PCA rules for Golden Gate Region actually allow non-porsche plants for AX now.

Posted by: McMark Feb 23 2007, 07:02 PM

Fiid's got it right. Non-porsche powered cars are allowed.

Posted by: Dan (Almaden Valley) Feb 23 2007, 07:07 PM

Only for PCA members. if you are not a PCA member then you need to have a Porsche....period...no motor transplants.
It is at the discretion of the AX chair...if there are an excess of cars then non porsches or non porsche powered cars can be excluded.

Posted by: nebreitling Feb 23 2007, 07:34 PM

i don't get it. is this a PCA AX? or a WCA AX using PCA insurance?

Posted by: ClayPerrine Feb 23 2007, 09:43 PM

This will be a 914Sig event. It is covered THROUGH the local region, and for that the local region gets some cash (and hopefully we get to borrow their equipment). But it is strictly a SIG event, and the event chair (I.E. McMark) decides the rules and classifications for the AX. We have multiple classes for an AX at the MUSR. 1.7 and 1.8 stock 4 cylinders, 2.0 stock 4 cylinders, modified 4 cylinders of any type (carbs make it a modified 4) stock 6 cylinder, modified 6 and 8 cylinder, and anything else from a taildragger to a waterpumper to a Suburban! Yes, Tom Ewing ran his Suburban in the AX at MUSR 6.

Now the event chair can choose to have an AX that coincides with a region AX, and then the region rules would take precedence.


So, to shorten the answer, IF McMark decides to hold a WCR AX, with participants from the WCR only, then it can be "run what you brung", If he piggybacks on a locak region AX, then the local AX rules apply.


Does that answer the question?

Posted by: grantsfo Feb 23 2007, 09:53 PM

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Posted by: McMark Feb 23 2007, 10:38 PM

But the SIG is different from your normal PCA events, AFAIK. Allowing everyone to run is a major point for me. I just hope we don't have to source alternative insurance to do it. This is definitely something that needs to be cleared up...

Posted by: ClayPerrine Feb 23 2007, 11:19 PM

The insurance is run through PCA national, and there is no rule that says you must have a Porsche to run. Our local region has regular participants in Miatas, WRXs, corvettes, and Minis. In fact, the local Mini club runs in our AX, but they have their own points and trophys for the club. They don't have enough members to run their own event.

I think your issue is with your region, not PCA in general. I am sure that Charlie will chime in here and explain the "official" opinion.

And yes, the SIG is different. IF it is a SIG event, then the event chair makes the rules, as long as they are safe.

Posted by: RoadGlue Feb 23 2007, 11:29 PM

This is based completely on the power plant then, right? Suspension mods won't put us in other classes.

I might have a chance against other bone stock 2.0s running D-jet! Woo hoo!

Edit - Wait, what am I thinking? I guess I'll be in modified because I'll have a 2056. Right? I'd try to sneak this under the radar, but Mark already knows my motor plans!

Posted by: ClayPerrine Feb 23 2007, 11:36 PM

That is the class system we use for the MUSR. Mark is free to set the classes up how HE wants to.

Posted by: McMark Feb 24 2007, 01:18 AM

I need to make up a classification system too!

Four Cylinders VS Six Cylinders VS Transplants

See that was easy.

Posted by: Rotten Robby Feb 24 2007, 01:42 AM

Mark,
This might be a regional rule. SVR invites ESCA and BMWCCA to our events. So far we have had only a BMW guy that I know of. He was not a member of PCA and we reprinted his BMW article in the Drifter this month...
SVR does not require that the autocrosser be a PCA member.

Posted by: Rotten Robby Feb 24 2007, 01:43 AM

I agree... TTOD

Posted by: McMark Feb 24 2007, 08:40 PM

Me, Randy, and John drove the Saturday Tour route today. It's a REALLY amazing route. Some great Sonoma rolling hills scenery, coastline/oceanside driving, and more twisties than you can shake a 914 at.

I think Randy has some pictures he might be able to share.

Make sure your brakes and suspension are in good order because they WILL BE GIVEN A SEVERE WORKOUT!!!

Posted by: RoadGlue Feb 24 2007, 09:26 PM

That was fun, thanks Mark! I'll post the photos later tonight or early tomorrow. Headed out to see some other friends now.

Posted by: Dr. Roger Feb 24 2007, 09:29 PM

Pay Pal sent.

I'm going to get my 914 cherry popped.

It'll be my 914's first real 914 event and first AX ever. =-))))))

I'm stoked.

Posted by: RoadGlue Feb 25 2007, 02:49 PM

Our scouting run yesterday was done in damp, cloudy, raining conditions, but the weather will be perfect come June.

Here are some photos from the last half of the route (not sure why I didn't pull the cam out sooner!):

Posted by: RoadGlue Feb 25 2007, 02:57 PM

A few more:

Posted by: McMark Feb 25 2007, 03:57 PM

Thanks Randy! Next time we'll bring a video camera and take some in car footage. And we'll drive 914s.

Posted by: Hammy Feb 25 2007, 04:33 PM

Looks awesome! I love those kinds of roads.....

Posted by: jgara962 Feb 25 2007, 05:00 PM

For anyone who is coming to the WRC, this is going to be a great run. We only did half of it yesterday, and the roads and scenery were amazing. It will be a blast in the 914's

Posted by: Tobra Feb 26 2007, 11:34 AM

It is not the $25 entry fee, it is the three days.

I have money, time is where I run into trouble. I can get up at 5 or 6 in the morning, be there when you guys are rubbing the sleep out of your eyes, go from Rhonert Park, over the hill, around the dale, beating the living crap out of my car all the way.

That way, I can get home that evening and maintain domestic tranquility, always a plus

Posted by: jgara962 Feb 26 2007, 11:50 AM

I'm doing the same thing. I'm going to register, but I'll only be attending the Satruday run and maybe head back to Santa Rosa for the auto-x on Monday.

Posted by: Demick Feb 26 2007, 12:17 PM

You guys will be missing out on a big part of the fun. The first WCC I went home each afternoon after the organized events were over because I was local. The second WCC was in SoCal, so I that wasn't an option - and I found out how much more fun it was to dedicate the whole time to the event. So this year, despite being local, I will be staying in Rohnert Park for the whole weekend.

Demick

P.S. I know this is not an option for everyone. Believe me I know - I'm up to my ears in commitments, family, etc too. Just trying to point out that the WCC/WCR is about much more than just an autocross and twisty road tour. I didn't get it until WCC'05. So if you can swing it, stay for it's entirety.

Posted by: rick 918-S Feb 26 2007, 01:14 PM

Wish I could go. Life is funny, never know what's around the next curve.

Posted by: SirAndy Feb 26 2007, 03:25 PM

you'll be missing out on the real fun part ...

Posted by: jkeyzer Feb 26 2007, 03:45 PM

Those roads look like some of the ones I got lost on a couple times out west of Petaluma. Are one or two of those photos from Marshall-Petaluma road? I spent 45 mins without seeing another car out there on a Saturday afternoon in the winter.

Posted by: RoadGlue Feb 26 2007, 03:53 PM

The Marshall-Petaluma road is a ways south from this area, though we've done 914 tours on that route in the past. It's suffered greatly though in last years storms and isn't nearly as nice as it used to be. I recall both Dug and Brad catching air on a few of the crests on that road closer to Marshall...

Here's that route:

http://maps.yahoo.com/#mvt=m&q4=38.163183%2C-122.891358&q3=38.167596%2C-122.731192&q2=38.233731%2C-122.639703&q1=38.24627%2C-122.628201&trf=0&lon=-122.729645&lat=38.199069&mag=7

Posted by: RoadGlue Feb 26 2007, 03:58 PM

Here's the proposed route for the WCR drive, though I think I may tweak the first 1/4 part a bit:

http://maps.yahoo.com/#gid8=21534104&q8=1+DOUBLETREE+DR%2C+Rohnert+Park%2C+CA%2C+94928&q7=3333+Skaggs+Springs+Rd%2C+Geyserville%2C+CA+95441&q6=Stewarts+Point%2C+CA&q5=Jenner%2C+CA+&q4=22203+Moscow+Road%2C+Monte+Rio%2C+CA&q3=3611+BOHEMIAN+HWY%2C+Occidental%2C+CA%2C+95465&q2=Valley+Ford%2C+CA&gid1=21534104&q1=1+DOUBLETREE+DR%2C+Rohnert+Park%2C+CA%2C+94928&mvt=m&trf=0&lon=-123.053741&lat=38.513251&mag=8 - The lunch stop is at "G".

There's going to be some traffic regardless of where we go on Saturday, but getting up north should help a little bit.

Posted by: McMark Feb 26 2007, 04:12 PM

Here's a screen capture. Point H is also Point A which is the Hotel.


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Posted by: 94teen6 Feb 26 2007, 04:51 PM

How many miles is that?

Posted by: Scott Carlberg Feb 26 2007, 04:52 PM

..does that Yahoo Maps link NOT work for anyone else, besides me?

Never Mind, I had the OLD Yahoo Maps loaded up.
Thanks Randy.

Posted by: RoadGlue Feb 26 2007, 05:05 PM

Just click on the map link I posted. Total mileage is retentively short, at just 135 mi from the hotel, around and back to the hotel. Driving time is around 3.5 hours.

Posted by: McMark Feb 26 2007, 07:46 PM

It looks REALLY long to people who aren't used to absurdly curvey roads. F to G is only 36 miles. But there are 150-200 corners.

Posted by: Headrage Feb 26 2007, 07:57 PM

I'm signed up!!!

Drive up Friday early and back on Tuesday...

Posted by: McMark Feb 27 2007, 11:18 PM

I forgot about my cows on the road picture!



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Posted by: DNHunt Feb 28 2007, 07:43 AM

Money is on the way. When do we get a counter up in the corner?

Dave

Posted by: jimtab Mar 6 2007, 11:50 PM

Mark I assume that since I signed up in good faith for the WCC that I will remain signed up for the WCW......or do I need to subscribe again..... How come they call the motel the SONOMA when it's in Rhonert Park....my wifey thought we were staying in Sonoma for 3 days....now she's pissed...but she would be pissed anyway...she turns 60 on the 13th of June and we have our 39th anniversary on the 15th...see how all this stuff works out????

Posted by: Mueller Mar 6 2007, 11:54 PM

I'm signed up and I don't even own a 914...of course even if I did own one I surely wouldn't be driving it to the event, that would un-Mueller like, hahahaha

Posted by: McMark Mar 7 2007, 12:00 AM

Great to have you on board Jim & Mike.

Posted by: DNHunt Mar 7 2007, 08:15 AM

I'm getting excited!

Posted by: PRS914-6 Mar 7 2007, 09:51 AM

Looks like you guys chose Skaggs Springs Road. That is a great road! Been on it many times with bikes and cars. The forest down by the ocean is very beautiful and the tight turns about mid way through are a blast. Careful of the cops on the eastern side.....They try to bust the crotch rockets all the time especially on the weekends. Very popular bike rd.

I don't know if my 914 will be done by then. Painter says it will come out of the shop about the end of April. Everything is ready to bolt on and engine is already installed. If it's not done, I might come down for a day anyway.... Sounds like fun.

Posted by: McMark Mar 7 2007, 10:06 AM

It would be great to have you come along! 914s aren't necessary, you can usually bum a ride in someone elses car. On a drive like this it's nice to have company.

Posted by: Dr. Roger Mar 7 2007, 10:28 AM

I think it's in Sonoma County.

A very beautiful county. =-)


Finally I get to meet some of you out-of-towners. Yes!

Posted by: RoadGlue Mar 7 2007, 10:48 AM

Mark picked out a great hotel for this event and it's smack dab in the middle of Sonoma County. It's five minutes south of Santa Rosa and about the same north of Petaluma. The Wine Valleys are all within 20 - 30 minutes.

I'm a life long Sonoma County native and will be happy to recommend downtime activities, wineries and even another hotel if you and your sweetheart want something a little more romantic (ooh lala!), or just want a night away from the 914 crowd for some reason. Just drop me a line.

I'll make a downtime activity list in fact...

Posted by: jgara962 Mar 7 2007, 03:20 PM

I'm officially registered!

Posted by: jgara962 Mar 17 2007, 12:35 AM

Mark,

How many people have registered?

Posted by: McMark Mar 17 2007, 01:37 AM

24 Peeps! So far so good.

Posted by: 914wizard Mar 25 2007, 10:39 PM

Will you show us the auto-cross course map before the big day?

Thank you,


The wiz

Posted by: JRust Mar 26 2007, 01:55 PM

I'm looking into making the trip down. Not sure if I can swing it yet. I will definately register once I know. Hopefully I can still register later. Is there a cutoff for registration? Thanks- Jamie in Corvallis Oregon

Posted by: McMark Mar 26 2007, 04:00 PM

Registration will be open, but I'm hoping to get people as early as possible in order to make plans. But we won't be turning anyone away because of timing.

Posted by: Borderline Apr 23 2007, 11:28 AM

My car is finally running and I can't wait to join the WCR. I just signed up.....twice..(I had a little issue with paypal). Now I gotta keep it runnin!!


I don't know if anyone has asked this yet...Are there any camp grounds in the area?

Posted by: Headrage Apr 23 2007, 11:56 AM

Anybody wanna split a room at the Doubletree?

I can't explain away almost $500.00 in hotel fees to the wife.

Posted by: RoadGlue Apr 23 2007, 12:01 PM

Let me know if you need another recommendation for a cheaper hotel and I'll help you find something less expensive.

Posted by: Headrage Apr 23 2007, 12:07 PM

I saw a Good Nite Inn that's only about .86 mile away.

Posted by: McMark Apr 23 2007, 12:13 PM

The Good Nite inn is very close. But I'm not sure what the rates are.

Posted by: McMark Apr 23 2007, 12:16 PM

Oh, and thanks to KenSchipper for hooking us up with a logo!



And check out the event site: http://www.914world.com/events/wcr2007/

Posted by: Borderline Apr 23 2007, 02:48 PM

Nice graphics, Ken!

Being the CSOB that I am and that I would rather spend $$ on tires and parts than hotel rooms, I found a KOA campground about 7 miles south off hwy 101. We got the last "cabin" for that weekend but they still have camp sites left for those with those interests and don't mind driving a little.

KOA Petaluma: 707-763-1492

Posted by: mills914/s May 2 2007, 08:51 AM

We regestered...And my woman set up the hotel at the goodnight inn prices are good and its less than a mile away. I have alot to do on the car I hate having a deadline. Is there anyone from the Santa Cruz,CA area going Im looking for people to drive up there with. I think I will start a topic when it gets a little closer.
Seth

Posted by: Borderline May 2 2007, 10:02 AM

Seth: I'm a little south of you, Aromas area (east of Watsonville). Maybe we can get together for the drive up?

Posted by: mills914/s May 2 2007, 10:35 AM

Hey Bill that sounds good to me. Here is my email sethmills914@comcast.net
Here is my cell 419-8558
We can work out the details on when we want to leave.
Thanks
Seth

Posted by: ChrisNPDrider May 2 2007, 11:14 AM

I registered
Currently seeking single, hot female car lover to share a hotel room with
Might miss Saturday due to GGR AX
Have Monday June 18th off of work so I can run the WCR AX

Posted by: Headrage May 2 2007, 08:10 PM

So how many registered so far?

Posted by: mills914/s May 3 2007, 09:06 AM

Mark told me 35 as of 5-2

Posted by: Mueller Jun 5 2007, 10:47 AM

For those NOT doing the auto-x on Saturday, any other plans to get together or ???

Posted by: Marty Yeoman Jun 5 2007, 02:28 PM

I can't make the AX on Saturday.
The best I can do is arrive around noon.
Mike, Do you want to plan something?
Even just a location and time would be helpful.

Posted by: 2-OH! Jun 5 2007, 02:31 PM

I'm loose on Saturday as well...

Open for suggestions...Another drive perhaps...Unsponsored by the WCR...Just us chickens...

2-OH!

Posted by: RoadGlue Jun 5 2007, 02:37 PM

I'll have a few alternative activities planned for Sat morning/afternoon for those of you who won't be attending the AX. I'll be sure to include a cool self guided mini-tour. Well, mini compared to the run on Sunday. There's also going to be another tour on Monday for those that are sticking around that day as well.

Mark and I met up last night and we have some fun group activities planned for Sat evening/night, so make sure your schedules are clear by 7'sh.

Posted by: So.Cal.914 Jun 5 2007, 02:47 PM

Posted by: McMark Jun 5 2007, 02:51 PM

Thanks Paul. It helps to be constantly reminded. Unfortuantely my time machine is broken, so I can't fix it now.

Maybe you and Headrage can get together, split a room and then you only have to explain away $250 in hotel rooms.

Posted by: Justinp71 Jun 5 2007, 02:59 PM

I think there will be a few of us around.

Since the drive was on saturday and now moved to sunday, what was on the original sunday schedule?

Maybe that can be a parking lot gathering at the double tree and short drive...??? Time for more bumper changes...

Posted by: Headrage Jun 5 2007, 03:13 PM

No worries Mark.

I'll be staying at the Double Tree.

Just gonna classify it as a business trip...

Posted by: McMark Jun 5 2007, 03:47 PM

Sorry I snapped. I just got my $12,000 bill from the hotel. So I'm a bit touchy.

And my rep. isn't answering her phone so I can explain to her that this isn't going to work.

Needless to say, my stomach is in knots and my head is about to explode.

Posted by: So.Cal.914 Jun 5 2007, 03:48 PM

Nope you can't, but I did mention it then also along with a few others. Not all of us

are shot in the a$$ with diamonds here. Maybe next year. You Guys and Gals

have a Great time and stay safe.

Posted by: RoadGlue Jun 5 2007, 04:18 PM

I think if it's a matter of attending or not attending, it would probably be OK if you stayed at a cheaper hotel nearby. Right?

Posted by: So.Cal.914 Jun 6 2007, 10:58 AM

I am sure you'll have a great time, but a gathering like this, the only reason I go

is to meet other people with common interests, and bitchin cars. The part I used

to look forward to the most was the party at night, everyone together, a

community bottle and a keg. Well if I stay at another hotel I get to have my one

beer, hang for awhile until everyone is drunk enough where I can no longer

follow the conversation and drive back to my hotel. Maybe next year...Sh!t I won't

be here next year.

Posted by: RoadGlue Jun 6 2007, 11:41 AM

Or you could park you teener at the cheap hotel, catch a ride to the Doubletree and then get a cab to take you back over. We can make this work, so why the excuses?

Posted by: So.Cal.914 Jun 6 2007, 12:29 PM

Excuses? No, Only observations I made months ago. It's why I decided to pass on

the WCR and to book flights to FLA and the north east, never been to New York.

Party on...

Posted by: Marty Yeoman Jun 6 2007, 02:21 PM

Posted by: SirAndy Jun 6 2007, 02:52 PM

nice, classy response ...
Andy

PS: i'll just bite my tongue and go back to what i do best. pulling diamonds out of my ass ...

Posted by: So.Cal.914 Jun 6 2007, 05:53 PM

Sometimes when you wish to be perfectly clear about a point it is better to be

colorful in your statement and risk brusing some sencibilitys. I apologize if I

injured any feelings with the "shot in the ___ with diamonds statement. Sence my

accident things have been very hard, not alot of money to waist. I wouldn't be

going back east if it wasn't for my inlaws, their paying. I really wanted to be at the

WCR, Just couldn't afford food, gas, consumables and a room for my wife and I.

You all have fun...

Posted by: GTeener Jun 12 2007, 11:46 AM

What activities are planned for Saturday night?

Posted by: Headrage Jun 12 2007, 11:54 AM

Posted by: RoadGlue Jun 12 2007, 12:53 PM

Updates and the schedule for the event have been posted over at the other WCR thread:

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=71367

After the auto-x, there will be a few hours to get dinner and rest up. Then the plan is to head about a 1/2 from the hotel and have a mini-golf tournament. There's also go-karts, an arcade, etc

Double-Decker Lanes bowling alley is a short walk from the hotel, as is one the area's best night clubs.

Posted by: ChrisNPDrider Jun 12 2007, 03:38 PM

You mean that crusty bar on the corner?
I'm all over that!

Posted by: Borderline Jun 12 2007, 05:18 PM

Go-Karts????


Wait, we got go-karts!

Posted by: jimtab Jun 13 2007, 12:22 AM

Maybe they'd let us rent the track for the teeners....now THAT would be fun....

Posted by: jkeyzer Jun 15 2007, 06:48 PM

Sitting here at work counting the minutes...