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Posted by: Qarl Dec 23 2006, 07:04 PM
I'm so friggin confused...
Is this the old NARP site? (I came here via 914club.info).. yet my old 914club avatar and stuff is here.
Is this Brad's site? (914club.com) His site still points to the "new" 914club.
Help!
I need some more scotch!
Posted by: Eric_Shea Dec 23 2006, 07:06 PM
It's YOURS!! 
Posted by: Eric_Shea Dec 23 2006, 07:06 PM
Welcome Back!!
Posted by: Vacca Rabite Dec 23 2006, 07:06 PM
I think it may be our place.
And do be kind and pass the scotch.
Zach
Posted by: Lawrence Dec 23 2006, 07:07 PM
It's YOUR site... built by you... owned by you!!!
Merry Christmas... two days early!!! 
Posted by: Gint Dec 23 2006, 07:10 PM
Merry Christmas Karl!
Posted by: seanery Dec 23 2006, 07:14 PM
Welcome back Ladies & Gentleman....this is the place you built, without the hidden extras...all free all the time 
Posted by: Grelber Dec 23 2006, 07:14 PM
Will the sites be consolidated? Still be 2 sites (plus the others?
Posted by: rick 918-S Dec 23 2006, 07:22 PM
Happy Holidays what ever you celebrate.
Posted by: mikez Dec 23 2006, 07:23 PM
Will the sites be consolidated? Still be 2 sites (plus the others?
Nope just this one....there's others?????
Posted by: Aaron Cox Dec 23 2006, 07:23 PM
sweet.
Posted by: TROJANMAN Dec 23 2006, 07:25 PM
Will the sites be consolidated? Still be 2 sites (plus the others?
Nope just this one....there's others?????
thanks mike.
I guess clubnarp.com didn't really start a fundraiser for you today, did they?
Posted by: mikez Dec 23 2006, 07:27 PM
Will the sites be consolidated? Still be 2 sites (plus the others?
Nope just this one....there's others?????
thanks mike.
I guess clubnarp.com didn't really start a fundraiser for you today, did they?
Oh geez, that was a joke.....sarcasm....dry humor.....
OK there IS another site.....technically the senior site as we are new babes in the woods.....
All Hail CLUB NARP.....
Posted by: Qarl Dec 23 2006, 07:28 PM
Cragganmore Double-matured distiller's Edition
Distilled in 1992, bottled in 2005.
Posted by: markb Dec 23 2006, 07:40 PM
Cragganmore Double-matured distiller's Edition
Distilled in 1992, bottled in 2005.
Posted by: vsg914 Dec 23 2006, 07:47 PM
Well I'll be damned! 
Posted by: kwales Dec 23 2006, 07:53 PM
Uh Oh....
Not Scotch......
Last time I drank that single malt stuff there was all kinda fireworks going off overhead for about three hours....
It was August in Alaska and the aurora kicked in like I have never seem before....
Hey.... I seee green....
Ken
Posted by: seanery Dec 23 2006, 07:55 PM
Hey Curt!!
nice to see ya!
Posted by: Pat Garvey Dec 23 2006, 07:59 PM
Cragganmore Double-matured distiller's Edition
Distilled in 1992, bottled in 2005.
Ooohh, Craggy!
I don't have any idea what's going on with this site, but you have my undevided attention! Oohh, the peat! Yum, yum!
Posted by: Lawrence Dec 23 2006, 08:00 PM
Hi Pat!
Good to see you... even if you are a CW. 
-Rusty 
Posted by: iamchappy Dec 23 2006, 08:01 PM
Qarl save some for me, count down 30 days and counting.
Posted by: JOHNMAN Dec 23 2006, 08:01 PM
I would have been here sooner, but I just got the email.....
THANK GOD the content is restored (including my BLOG and PM's)
WOO HOO!!!!!!
Now, who is an admin? I would like one change on my account please....
Posted by: Aaron Cox Dec 23 2006, 08:03 PM
I would have been here sooner, but I just got the email.....
THANK GOD the content is restored (including my BLOG and PM's)
WOO HOO!!!!!!
Now, who is an admin? I would like one change on my account please....
whacha need changed john?
lemme know
Posted by: Lawrence Dec 23 2006, 08:03 PM
PM me, baby.
Posted by: Lawrence Dec 23 2006, 08:04 PM
Damn... Corona-boy beat me... 
Posted by: Pat Garvey Dec 23 2006, 08:04 PM
It's YOURS!!
OK....can we have some idea of where we are & what this site is. I don't mean to be my usual PITA, but where are we? Is this a NARP site? How come all the content is back? Where do we go from here? Where's my Dahlwinnie?
I'm also confused! I THINK I like it, but still confused.
Posted by: mikez Dec 23 2006, 08:09 PM
It's YOURS!!
OK....can we have some idea of where we are & what this site is. I don't mean to be my usual PITA, but where are we? Is this a NARP site? How come all the content is back? Where do we go from here? Where's my Dahlwinnie?
I'm also confused! I THINK I like it, but still confused.
take the QTips outta ya ears.....
new place, same stuff, enjoy.....
Go take care of yer forum...it's been waiting for you....
Posted by: Lawrence Dec 23 2006, 08:09 PM
I'm also confused! I THINK I like it, but still confused.
Glad ya like it!
You're on 914world.com.
Nope. We don't want to replace NARP, but the NARP guys are welcome here, like everyone else.
It never went anywhere.
I'm gonna get another beer. Want one?
You're scaring me.
-Rusty
Posted by: iamchappy Dec 23 2006, 08:11 PM
There are 4 914 sites we can flounder around too, Pelican,NARP,914club and 914world.
Posted by: anthony Dec 23 2006, 08:11 PM
Pat, it's a new web address but we are accessing the old database. The only difference is a change in management. It appears that this site is run by all the old 914club admins except Brad and Jeroen. In case you hadn't been paying attention over the last couple of weeks, they have parted ways and are continuing with their own forum at 914club.com.
This has nothing to do with narpclub.com.
Does that make sense?
Posted by: anthony Dec 23 2006, 08:12 PM
You guys beat me to it.
Posted by: DuckRyder Dec 23 2006, 08:12 PM
It is a bit confusing isn't it, seems all my old login and personal information is here, so it would be nice to know who is the gate keeper so to speak.
Aparently I've missed quite a bit...
Posted by: Pat Garvey Dec 23 2006, 08:15 PM
Hi Pat!
Good to see you... even if you are a CW.
-Rusty
CW huh? Thank you for the compliment & Merry Christmas to ya! You left out PITA, but I can wait for New Years for that.
Man, I don't know what's up with this site, but it IS great to be back with the budz!
Posted by: Pat Garvey Dec 23 2006, 08:20 PM
Pat, it's a new web address but we are accessing the old database. The only difference is a change in management. It appears that this site is run by all the old 914club admins except Brad and Jeroen. In case you hadn't been paying attention over the last couple of weeks, they have parted ways and are continuing with their own forum at 914club.com.
This has nothing to do with narpclub.com.
Does that make sense?
OK, so what's the status of Andy? And, the LAST thing I want to do is stir up the pot of Sh_t. Just curious. Want to make certain I know which site to make my primary.
Posted by: mikez Dec 23 2006, 08:22 PM
Pat, it's a new web address but we are accessing the old database. The only difference is a change in management. It appears that this site is run by all the old 914club admins except Brad and Jeroen. In case you hadn't been paying attention over the last couple of weeks, they have parted ways and are continuing with their own forum at 914club.com.
This has nothing to do with narpclub.com.
Does that make sense?
OK, so what's the status of Andy? And, the LAST thing I want to do is stir up the pot of Sh_t. Just curious. Want to make certain I know which site to make my primary.
he's our ghost.....
Posted by: seanery Dec 23 2006, 08:27 PM
Robert,
The gatekeepers are the core admin team from before. There are a few less faces, but we are determined to see this club run like a club - FOR THE MEMBERS! It's your club, seriously.
Posted by: SGB Dec 23 2006, 08:28 PM
Its not confusing at all. Great new name, same ol' place. All our shit is here. We can be ourselves. Wheeee!
Posted by: Pat Garvey Dec 23 2006, 08:32 PM
Pat, it's a new web address but we are accessing the old database. The only difference is a change in management. It appears that this site is run by all the old 914club admins except Brad and Jeroen. In case you hadn't been paying attention over the last couple of weeks, they have parted ways and are continuing with their own forum at 914club.com.
This has nothing to do with narpclub.com.
Does that make sense?
OK, so what's the status of Andy? And, the LAST thing I want to do is stir up the pot of Sh_t. Just curious. Want to make certain I know which site to make my primary.
he's our ghost.....
OK Mike - I think I catch your drift. Nuff said, on wit bidniz! Yeah baby!
Posted by: smj Dec 23 2006, 08:42 PM
I don't know what the hell's going on, and I don't care. I am incredibly relieved to see that all this priceless content is available again. Sorry if there was a lot more painful drama behind the scenes, but that was what really had me worried about this mess the past two weeks...
Thanks to whoever sent out the mailing to the membership -- I hadn't stumbled over the "world" URL in all the craziness.
Posted by: neo914-6 Dec 23 2006, 08:52 PM
1) Will there be splitting or sharing the content with .com as Andy indicated?
2) How have you insured the "plug" won't be pulled again, whom owns the domain and or the server?
Good to see/hear from you all...
Posted by: 914MF Dec 23 2006, 08:52 PM
Cool color.
Posted by: Aaron Cox Dec 23 2006, 08:54 PM
1) yes. content is in the mail to brad/jeroen.
2) We own the domain for world. We own the server. We = andy/admins.
3) you own the content
good to see you Neo/Felix
Posted by: Malmz Dec 23 2006, 08:54 PM
(try this again since I timed out the first time...)
Still looking for the monster truck content....
sm (got the email and had to see what the drama was about).
PS. I still like my sawzall Smilie...
Posted by: mikez Dec 23 2006, 08:59 PM
Look what the cat dragged in....
Posted by: PORobinSCHE Dec 23 2006, 09:12 PM
I'm so friggin confused...
Is this the old NARP site? (I came here via 914club.info).. yet my old 914club avatar and stuff is here.
Is this Brad's site? (914club.com) His site still points to the "new" 914club.
Help!
I need some more scotch!
is this like deja vu all over again......i went to register and poof i am still here......whoa dude no more 'shrooms for me
Posted by: Rhodes71/914 Dec 23 2006, 09:12 PM
Haven't been here for awhile - I'm out on the ocean most of the summer and my car gets parked in the winter due to the fact that there is a pile of snow on the ground. But I do drive the hell out of my car in the summer just haven't had any issues with it and don't spend a lot of time on the internet. (Office job was good for that but not for me)
Not sure what kind of drama went on but I'm glad to see that this site is here.
Happy Holidays and Cheers to all 
Sean
Posted by: URY914 Dec 23 2006, 09:16 PM
I'm just posting this to see if this is for real. I'm thinking I've fallin into a deep sleep and this is a dream.
Posted by: Curvie Roadlover Dec 23 2006, 09:17 PM
Very nice!!
Posted by: PORobinSCHE Dec 23 2006, 09:18 PM
I'm just posting this to see if this is for real. I'm thinking I've fallin into a deep sleep and this is a dream.
Paul, we got to get out of florida more. something is messin' with our brains
Posted by: Malmz Dec 23 2006, 09:19 PM
Look what the cat dragged in....
Almost makes me wanna buy a rusty 32 year old car to sleep under!
sm
Posted by: markb Dec 23 2006, 09:21 PM
Steve!
Posted by: PORobinSCHE Dec 23 2006, 09:22 PM
how long has this been up-and-running. i just ran across the site while googling
Posted by: Thomas J Bliznik Dec 23 2006, 09:26 PM
Very nice!!
(Tom) Curvie,
Where you been??? Good to see your still alive.
Merry Christmas to you & family.
Has your daughter graduated from college yet???
Have you found the Grasshopper 914 yet???
Give me a shout sometime this summer & I'll bring you up to date on SMOG!!!
Tom
Posted by: Mike914 Dec 23 2006, 09:32 PM
There are 4 914 sites we can flounder around too, Pelican,NARP,914club and 914world.
RoadGlue
popped up again last week, Rennlist never went anywhere... Posted by: 9146FAN Dec 23 2006, 09:34 PM
Looks great, looks the same. TG it's resolved.
Merry Xmas from the OC.
Posted by: DuckRyder Dec 23 2006, 09:36 PM
Well it does seem most of the old crowd is here, feels like the old place so its allright by me.
Thanks for all your obviously hard work.
Posted by: Red-Beard Dec 23 2006, 09:42 PM
What is the story?
Posted by: Mike914 Dec 23 2006, 09:43 PM
There are 4 914 sites we can flounder around too, Pelican,NARP,914club and 914world.
RoadGlue
popped up again last week, Rennlist never went anywhere... Posted by: Lavanaut Dec 23 2006, 09:43 PM
Sweet!! Thank you Admin team!!!
Posted by: sww914 Dec 23 2006, 09:50 PM
This is the only one that feels like home. All my stuff is scattered around, and it smells like I live here, and I'd better get some dishes and laundry done.
Posted by: echocanyons Dec 23 2006, 09:53 PM
good to see things are coming back
Posted by: Malmz Dec 23 2006, 09:54 PM
Steve!Hey Mark! Take your car for a "spin" recently?
sm
Posted by: 914-8 Dec 23 2006, 09:54 PM
A New World Order, LOL. Looking good.
Nice to see everything is back. Just try not to screw the pooch like last time. That was one of the most shocking displays of poor judgment and lack of common sense witnessed on teh Internets in a while. Talk about some really, really bad ideas, poorly executed. Sheesh. There were very few that came out looking good after that debacle.
Here's to a better future.
Posted by: type47fan Dec 23 2006, 10:06 PM
. . . .gee, but it's good to be back home!
Home is where I want to be.
Seems I've been away so long. . . .
Posted by: mikerose Dec 23 2006, 10:09 PM
Sean I need a new HAT..............And no mikeZ not that one 
(edit) I just got one from mikeZ
Hi Rusty, boy I sure missed this place.
Posted by: Aaron Cox Dec 23 2006, 10:09 PM
A New World Order, LOL. Looking good.
Nice to see everything is back. Just try not to screw the pooch like last time. That was one of the most shocking displays of poor judgment and lack of common sense witnessed on teh Internets in a while. Talk about some really, really bad ideas, poorly executed. Sheesh. There were very few that came out looking good after that debacle.
Here's to a better future.
past is past...
cheers to a bright future
Posted by: Bee Jay Dec 23 2006, 10:10 PM
I'm a afraid to ask, but what's been going on? I've been in the Corvette forum. I got an email to come check this site out. Steve Malmzx is here, Mike Z is here, Laurence Rusty is here too, so I guess this is my new home. Is the Cap'n here too?
Bee Jay
Posted by: Krieger914 Dec 23 2006, 10:14 PM
I was googling to find the "other sites" and ended up here on and off for the last 2 hours. I just checked my email for the suprise. I think this is home, but the stink from the last two weeks is still present, and I don't want to go through that again. I guess its time to pit it behind us for the common good ....right 
Posted by: Malmz Dec 23 2006, 10:16 PM
I'm a afraid to ask, but what's been going on? I've been in the Corvette forum. I got an email to come check this site out. Steve Malmzx is here, Mike Z is here, Laurence Rusty is here too, so I guess this is my new home. Is the Cap'n here too?Bee Jay
Hey Bee Jay! Hope all is well with everybody! Poke around the threads and you will find the info you seek. I haven't logged in in quite some time either but got the email as well so I thought I would see what was up.
PM me your mailing address if you dare to stick one of my new vette stickers:
https://trashracing.com/shop/product_info.php?cPath=21&products_id=42 Gratis for you of course.
Just got the 1-4 shift lockout override for the C5. Need to get it on jacks to pop it in and see how it goes.
Sorry, NPC...
sm
Posted by: drew365 Dec 23 2006, 10:25 PM
Excellent!!! 
Posted by: markb Dec 23 2006, 10:31 PM
Steve!Hey Mark! Take your car for a "spin" recently?
sm
I'll never live that one down. Last time I talked to Burr, I asked him if he wanted to go for "a spin", and he turned a little green.
He went so far as to leave the country....
I changed the color of the car, and was hoping nobody would remember. Oops.
Posted by: Bee Jay Dec 23 2006, 10:36 PM
I'm a afraid to ask, but what's been going on? I've been in the Corvette forum. I got an email to come check this site out. Steve Malmzx is here, Mike Z is here, Laurence Rusty is here too, so I guess this is my new home. Is the Cap'n here too?Bee Jay
Hey Bee Jay! Hope all is well with everybody! Poke around the threads and you will find the info you seek. I haven't logged in in quite some time either but got the email as well so I thought I would see what was up.
PM me your mailing address if you dare to stick one of my new vette stickers:
https://trashracing.com/shop/product_info.php?cPath=21&products_id=42 Gratis for you of course.
Just got the 1-4 shift lockout override for the C5. Need to get it on jacks to pop it in and see how it goes.
Sorry, NPC...
sm
PM being sent. I would like that sticker. Hey, my 914 is down again. Valve seat came aloose. I left the head with the Cap'n. He'll prolly call and tell me it's ready after I'm good and broke from Christmas. I still haven't done the six conversion yet. Hey, if you ever make it up to Lompoc, I'll show you my two post lift. Wayne and Scott helped me get it thru Pelican Parts.
Bee Jay
Posted by: Malmz Dec 23 2006, 10:36 PM
I'll never live that one down. Last time I talked to Burr, I asked him if he wanted to go for "a spin", and he turned a little green.
He went so far as to leave the country....
I changed the color of the car, and was hoping nobody would remember. Oops.
Anybody have a phone number for Burr? After he left, he left me a phone number which was a US number that worked overseas, but I left it on my voicemail too long and it deleted before I wrote it down.
sm
Posted by: Malmz Dec 23 2006, 10:39 PM
PM being sent. I would like that sticker. Hey, my 914 is down again. Valve seat came aloose. I left the head with the Cap'n. He'll prolly call and tell me it's ready after I'm good and broke from Christmas. I still haven't done the six conversion yet. Hey, if you ever make it up to Lompoc, I'll show you my two post lift. Wayne and Scott helped me get it thru Pelican Parts.
Bee Jay
Will have to stop someday when I'm going north to my sisters. Should have Thanksgiving weekend... I suck at keeping in touch with people... Work and kids and I'm usually drunk the rest of the time...
sm
Posted by: Graphikhaus Dec 23 2006, 10:58 PM
Hmmm.... the data is all here... feels pretty much the same... looks pretty much the same... but you would have known I would think this... so I can clearly not choose the site in front of me... or can I?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtP2OR27skc
Posted by: Lou W Dec 23 2006, 11:06 PM
Hi everybody
My blog is back too.yahoo :-)
Posted by: pete-stevers Dec 23 2006, 11:08 PM
you go ahead and pour scotch......i am sticking with some cheap red....
Posted by: elwood-914 Dec 23 2006, 11:11 PM
Confusing but glad 
Posted by: dgw Dec 23 2006, 11:26 PM
Glad to see this place back. Good luck to all of us.
Posted by: rickyhgarcia Dec 23 2006, 11:37 PM
great to have the site back!!!
it feels just like the site I signed on two years ago....
Posted by: shoguneagle Dec 23 2006, 11:37 PM
Just got the email and it made my day.
This calls for a sniffer of Remy Cognac (Sepcial drink
for honoring special events such as honoring military
buddies, 'Nam events, and similar events)
Made my day; I can now get my 914 fix on Route Sixty-Six!!!
Tanks! Tanks! Tanks!!!
The thing missing is "Sir Andy"; special Cognac salute to him!!
Really made my day.
I will support the other 914 activities and forums.
Steve Hurt
Shoguneagle
USN, USAF, USAFR - Retired
Retired Banker
Retired UAL
"Tired of being retired"
Posted by: firstknight13 Dec 23 2006, 11:54 PM
Posted by: Eric Taylor Dec 24 2006, 12:26 AM
This is awesome. I'm really really happy to see the content back! Now lets get back to the usual and move forward. Thanks to everyone who put this new domain together. Truly made my day. :)old content:)
Posted by: Jenny Dec 24 2006, 12:48 AM
Wow... I don't know what to say..
It does feel like home. Thanks for all the hard work guys. WTG!!
Jen
Posted by: elmonte Dec 24 2006, 12:54 AM
Thanks to the old -new administration team. A special THANKS!! to Andy for protecting all the information from the last 3+ years
Cheers All
Posted by: Eric_Shea Dec 24 2006, 01:18 AM
What... nobody's read the RULES and the MISSION STATEMENT YET!?! 
Posted by: Lou W Dec 24 2006, 01:22 AM
Who do we send the membership fees to?
Posted by: Eric_Shea Dec 24 2006, 01:25 AM
Z
Posted by: ClayPerrine Dec 24 2006, 01:26 AM
Who do we send the membership fees to?
There are no membership fees. This site is FREE, and it will remain FREE. We don't own it, all of you do.
Posted by: Eric_Shea Dec 24 2006, 01:28 AM
Speak for yourself Clay!
(Lou... I'll PM you an address for the fees. They're "monthly" now with the new system)
Posted by: Lou W Dec 24 2006, 01:34 AM
Speak for yourself Clay!
(Lou... I'll PM you an address for the fees. They're "monthly" now with the new system)
I couldn't find the smiley of the wallet with the money flying out, so I thought I'd use these.
Posted by: VegasRacer Dec 24 2006, 02:19 AM
Congrats and Good Luck. 
Posted by: craig downs Dec 24 2006, 02:41 AM
AAAAHHHH I just found home again Thank you Thank you and its so much better.
Its like I've been on a vacation and just got home
Posted by: Lou W Dec 24 2006, 02:46 AM
AAAAHHHH I just found home again Thank you Thank you and its so much better.
Its like I've been on a vacation and just got home
That's a good way to put this adventure.
Posted by: Dr. Roger Dec 24 2006, 03:51 AM
at first i almost shit a brick when I read the domain name. Thinking someone was taking 914club up a notch. Turning it into the WalMart of 914 websites.
then i "whois'd" the domain.....
Thank goodness.....!!!!
Registrant:
Schmidt, Andy
Domain Name: 914WORLD.COM
Administrative Contact, Technical Contact:
Schmidt, Andy
Posted by: Air_Cooled_Nut Dec 24 2006, 04:46 AM
So I'm @ 914club.com, where I have attended for a decent amount of time, and there's all this shit going on. Busy at work so I can't keep up with all the drama that's unfolding and everyone is keeping it hush-hush except for very vague comments...total BS in my book. Feels like I'm back at Intel...left in the dark.
I read Andy's thread about leaving 914club.com and then find a link to NARP's web site (news to me) and from them I discover this web site (more new news), which appears to have the original 914club content. No fucking email, no fucking sticky announcement any where about what the fuck is going on. Man, y'all really know how to let the air outta one's tires!
So is this new forum the replacement for 914club, basically a name change and the loss of a few people? People left in the fucking dark wanna know! ![popcorn[1].gif](style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)
Posted by: Van914 Dec 24 2006, 05:44 AM
This is a wonderful Christmas present!
Happy New Year to all in 914 land and many thanks to those who are responsible for this new site!
Drive on!
van914
Posted by: pfierb Dec 24 2006, 05:46 AM
Looks good to me.
Thanks Paul F.
Posted by: robby750 Dec 24 2006, 07:58 AM
What a wonderful Christmas Present!
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Posted by: race914 Dec 24 2006, 09:03 AM
Posted by: jim912928 Dec 24 2006, 09:06 AM
AMEN!
Posted by: Michael N Dec 24 2006, 09:19 AM
Merry Christmas to us. 
Or in the words of Ricky Bobby,"O thank you lord little baby Jesus........"
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Posted by: Rob Ways Dec 24 2006, 09:28 AM
what an interesting 3 weeks.
Good to see this back!
Posted by: 914-8 Dec 24 2006, 09:47 AM
What... nobody's read the RULES and the MISSION STATEMENT YET!?!
I read it, it's the first thing I did.
Amazing, only 2 weeks ago, people were publicly flogged, personally attacked and called names by admins for even suggesting a mission statement like that.
And now it is adopted.
The future is bright indeed.
Posted by: Eric_Shea Dec 24 2006, 10:32 AM
We listened.
Posted by: Lawrence Dec 24 2006, 10:34 AM
So is this new forum the replacement for 914club, basically a name change and the loss of a few people? People left in the fucking dark wanna know!
Toby,
I know how you feel and understand your frustration. Over the past two weeks I’ve often felt the same way. But this site, 914world.com, is YOUR site. It's the home you left, with a fresh look and a new, stronger foundation.
There were a lot of hard feelings, and in my heart I believe it's not good to rehash them over and over. I just ask that we move on.
Thanks,
Rusty
Posted by: erikstoll Dec 24 2006, 11:56 AM
I am so very confused.....
Posted by: ClayPerrine Dec 24 2006, 11:59 AM
I am so very confused.....
No need for confusion... 914World.com is your site.
Welcome Home.
Posted by: erikstoll Dec 24 2006, 12:07 PM
I am so very confused.....
No need for confusion... 914World.com is your site.
Welcome Home.
Thank you for the warm welcome back
now to actually get a car
Posted by: zymurgist Dec 24 2006, 12:38 PM
Hi guys and gals!
I guess I missed the drama, having been busy at work and trying to get both Babydoll and the Blue Max (my taildragger) back on the road. It's good to know that we still have a great community and I hope to see y'all at mid-Atlantic events in '07.
Posted by: goose2 Dec 24 2006, 12:44 PM
....haven't been around the forums much the past several months, so I kinda missed all the drama, but have to say I'm pleasently confused about this latest development ....thanks to those responsible for pulling it back together.
happy chanusolstiquanzamas
Posted by: Racer Chris Dec 24 2006, 01:39 PM
[... 914World.com is your site.
...
Who took my delete function???
I wanted to remove a topic from the NE get-togethers because it was never replied to and is no longer applicable. Best I could do was erase most of my post and edit the title.
Posted by: ClayPerrine Dec 24 2006, 01:56 PM
[... 914World.com is your site.
...
Who took my delete function???
I wanted to remove a topic from the NE get-togethers because it was never replied to and is no longer applicable. Best I could do was erase most of my post and edit the title.
We didn't take your delete function. You own everything you post here. But you have to remember, if you delete a whole thread, you are not just deleting your posts, but the posts of the other members who posted there. And that removes other people's property, not just your own.
If you want to remove all your posts, feel free. We won't stop you.
Posted by: 914rat Dec 24 2006, 02:27 PM
Me too ! I have a phobia to change glad to see some old members are here and others on 914club.com.How many sites does it take to support our cars?Is the clubnarp site the same as this site?I am confused as all hell guess i'll and see what happens.
Posted by: SteveL Dec 24 2006, 03:13 PM
THANK YOU ADMINS FOR THE NEW HOME.
MERRY CHRISTMAS ALL.
Posted by: carreraguy Dec 24 2006, 03:23 PM
Color me back!
Unlike some, I don't care to hear the gory details of what transpired the last few months - the ONLY way this type of gossip would be productive would be that the Admins could learn from the errors that were made and I've got a hunch that lesson has been learned, thus the new site. The new Rules are totally logical and a breath of fresh air (i.e. no phrases like "benevolent dictatorship"). Lets just keep it simple and think twice before we ban anyone without VERY careful consideration and review by more than one Admin.
Keep 'em flying!
Posted by: watsonrx13 Dec 24 2006, 05:52 PM
Thanks everyone....
Happy anniversary.... I hope we have (4) more years...
Merry Christmas...
-- Rob
Posted by: Racer Chris Dec 24 2006, 06:12 PM
Clay,
When I enter a topic I started there should be a Moderation options button to allow me to delete the topic. It isn't there.
As I said, I'm not trying to erase my presence here, just keep things current.
Posted by: Aaron Cox Dec 24 2006, 06:13 PM
right. essentially you cannot delete a thread... but you can delete all your posts out of said thread.... except the first post.....
Posted by: Racer Chris Dec 24 2006, 06:27 PM
So thats a change from before. You guys need to update the FAQ page to better reflect the new order.
And like I said before, if its my forum I want my delete topic function back.
Posted by: gregrobbins Dec 24 2006, 06:37 PM
So thats a change from before. You guys need to update the FAQ page to better reflect the new order.
And like I said before, if its my forum I want my delete topic function back.
Hey Chris, this is a happy place now.
I like the idea of being able to delete a thread I started too, can we get that back? The other choice is to go back the the thread and erase all the works or replacing them with something else. Chris, you have stuff to sell and could turn it into an add. Anyway, how is the car coming for 2007? Any photos to share?
Posted by: Lawrence Dec 24 2006, 06:38 PM
Okay, Chris.
I hear you and understand your frustration with the changes.
This was debated among the admins. We had lots of concerns from members when someone would delete an entire thread that contained contributions (intellectual property) from MANY members.
That didn't seem right to everyone involved.
We felt the happy-medium solution was to allow someone to delete their text... but not the whole thread and everyone elses posts.
There is no way to distinguish single-post threads versus threads than have a hundred posts. Because it's all-or-nothing, we've empowered users to clear the text of their OWN post.
I'll be happy to delete the thread in question for you. Please send the link to me in a PM.
I am glad that you're proactive and want to clean up some of the older stuff. Thank you... many don't remember to do stuff like that.
Cheers,
Rusty
Posted by: Racer Chris Dec 24 2006, 07:20 PM
This was debated among the admins. We had lots of concerns from members when someone would delete an entire thread that contained contributions (intellectual property) from MANY members.
...
Maybe I differ from most posters. I don't think contributions to an internet discussion forum constitute intellectual property. They become part of a public domain the moment the enter key is depressed. They are intellectual property only in the case of being copied from another source where the intellectual property rights are already established.
For example, if I contribute comments and ideas to a discussion about suspension modifications, that information is free to anyone. However, if I include attached images posted on my website, that constitutes IP. It only gets touchy when someone intends to "borrow" the information but doesn't bother to get permission where needed. In the case of outright erasure of information on a forum, the original intellectual property remains unchanged and not borrowed or stolen.
I still think a topic starter should retain final say on the continued existence of that topic.
Posted by: Racer Chris Dec 24 2006, 07:33 PM
Hey Chris, this is a happy place now.
I forgot to put on the rose colored glasses they gave me at the door, lol.
Anyway, how is the car coming for 2007? Any photos to share?
No progress. My business has taken top priority again, since I moved in June.
I can't say when I'll be ready to race again.
Posted by: URY914 Dec 25 2006, 09:15 AM
I still think a topic starter should retain final say on the continued existence of that topic.
I gotta agree with Chris here. I say if I started the thread I therefore "own" all discussion thereafter. And I should be able to delete it. For example, I opened the door (thread) and you guys came in (replyed) but now you started misbehaving or I changed my mind and I'm telling you to get out of my garage (deleteing the thread).
Paul
Posted by: Bleyseng Dec 25 2006, 09:22 AM
I still think a topic starter should retain final say on the continued existence of that topic.
I gotta agree with Chris here. I say if I started the thread I therefore "own" all discussion thereafter. And I should be able to delete it. For example, I opened the door (thread) and you guys came in (replyed) but now you started misbehaving or I changed my mind and I'm telling you to get out of my garage (deleteing the thread).
Paul
but I do get tired of people leaving and doing global deletes!Posted by: Hammer920 Dec 25 2006, 09:56 AM
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year....nice to be able to log on one of these sights.... I like the new set up. still welding on the old 73.
Richard
Posted by: Dr Evil Dec 25 2006, 08:59 PM
Holy shit! This is keeping me entertained in my limited free time
So we have:
The "club" site = "we own you and your content, you are lucky to be here!"
NARP = "you will be happy and play happily, it is the law, you will be made happy or you will be moderated/deleted!"
Howard's site = forgot the address...anyone there?
Road Glue = waiting for a personallity to develope, need more time
World = the old way with some changes that I still have to read about.
Merry Ramahaunakwanzmas!
Thanks to ALL of the people who truly have OUR best interests at heart and are doing their best to make all of us a home. So many choices.
(the above comments on the various forums are meant to be satyrical in nature and not realy intended to offend. If such offends you, then it is you perogative to feel offended and I will do nothing to steal such a right from you )
Posted by: Dr Evil Dec 25 2006, 09:01 PM
I just read the increadably long and wordy mission statement and feel that you all could have done us a favor and shortend it to the facts. However, I do agree with all ideas there in
Posted by: Fyrmdk914 Dec 25 2006, 09:07 PM
Well, if found you. To me this looks like the original site that I found a few weeks ago. I recently bought my first 914, 75 1.8, with original paint and upholstery. The upholstery will be done soon after the holidays, but the paint and body work will have to wait a while. While I do not have any knowledge of the personalities that caused this uproar on this site, I also don't care. I found this site because I wanted to share, (mostly with me receiving!) information about my 914. I will continue to visit this site because it feels like the same site that I found, and was able to navigate, and enjoy myself looking at. Hope I didn't hurt anyone's feelings!
Posted by: mikelsr Dec 25 2006, 11:51 PM
Thanks to the people who got this site up and going.
Posted by: nine14cats Dec 26 2006, 12:40 AM
I still think a topic starter should retain final say on the continued existence of that topic.
I gotta agree with Chris here. I say if I started the thread I therefore "own" all discussion thereafter. And I should be able to delete it. For example, I opened the door (thread) and you guys came in (replyed) but now you started misbehaving or I changed my mind and I'm telling you to get out of my garage (deleteing the thread).
Paul
but I do get tired of people leaving and doing global deletes!Hi Lawrence,
I'm going to chime in and say I vote for the topic starter to have delete approval of the thread. I've got friends on all of the boards and I'm just going to post in all of them when I'm inclined. I'm hoping no particular site or members force me to choose since I enjoy the posts of many who have chosen sides.
However, it's really a mistake in my opinion to try to keep the content or discourage the freedom of the topic deletion. I fully appreciate you wanting to keep several of the threads whole, they are classic. But if someone who was a major contributor of a thread decides to take their toys and leave (in this case their posted contributions), the thread IS CHANGED forever. It no longer is that classic thread we wanted to keep, but a hollow shell of itself.
Let's take a technical discussion on weight reduction on a car. Maybe 3 or 4 folks post several posts on their cars and what they did to get the weight out. Now 2 of those folks take their posts out, including the originator. There is still content from the other 1 or 2 folks, but now the thread is disjointed and basically sucks.
I wish you guys would just let it go. If B, or people that want to side with them want to kill their threads, let them. It will only be a few people, and the site will be better for it. Because you aren't living and fighting over the past. It's something you guys can't change. And I hope he extends the same courtesy at 914Club when he integrates the database into his site. The sooner you guys get away from the destructive behaviors, we can all go back to having fun someday.
I don't have any plans on deleting my threads here or at 914Club, because I'm just babbling about my POS cars. People from this site have already contacted me about my Boxster build that is nailed in the Paddock. I will contact them directly since this is a 914 forum and I don't know if you want it mucked up with the Boxster build. In fact, if you want to delete it, I wouldn't be offended. I just wanted to share the build because the car was built by the 914 community.
But in the end, I'm disappointed that 914World is "our" site but someone is controlling my threads. In this instance, at least the old site allowed you the control of your own thread. It is my opinion that the thread starter has say so. If you choose to reply you are giving me your opinion and I can choose to listen or discard the discussion. Since I created it, I should be able to terminate it. I'm viewing this as an informal garage, not one that hangs on my every word and has to put my comments up for perpetuity, for others to read for years. For me, it may have been a discussion that at the time seemed appropriate to me, but in the future I find I don't want to be reminded of. I'd like the right (which I do believe is mine) to kill it.
I agree with Geoff, I do get tired of the global delete by some people when they get upset or they have a falling out with a group or club. But really, just let it go. It's not like it's about the content in the database. It's about the people. The people will create the content. If 914World is missing a 944 Turbo brake conversion for a 914 that gets deleted, someone else will step up.
Just my opinion. I'm just a guest in your 914World, trying to stay in contact with my friends.
Bill P.
Posted by: ThinAir914 Dec 26 2006, 12:43 AM
At some point I'd like to see the admins address the issue of how this site is paid for. A site like this doesn't run for free. I don't want to see it perceived by anyone as "making money" for anyone, but I also don't want to see a small group of people underwriting the costs with no opportunity for others to share in that. Since it's OUR site, WE need the opportunity to help with not just content.
Posted by: McMark Dec 26 2006, 03:28 AM
Bill, you have a very good point. Your post has incited new discussion on the topic. Please don't delete your Boxster thread, I love it. 
Ernie, the site is running on Andy's company servers using Andy's company bandwidth. He has offered this to the acting admin team free of charge. I can only speak for myself, but my only involvement here is for the love of the cars. I think the people who have met me in person realize that. I've done a ton of coding and other things for this site. And I don't expect and don't want a cent for it. I don't even expect acknowledgment. As long as people are working on and loving their cars, I'm 100% happy. It's my impression that the rest of the 914World admin team feels the same way.
Posted by: Paul Illick Dec 26 2006, 05:09 AM
I've done a ton of coding and other things for this site. And I don't expect and don't want a cent for it. I don't even expect acknowledgment.
Ahh... but you know we love ya, Mark.
Posted by: faux916 Dec 26 2006, 07:46 AM
Bill, you have a very good point. Your post has incited new discussion on the topic. Please don't delete your Boxster thread, I love it.
Ernie, the site is running on Andy's company servers using Andy's company bandwidth. He has offered this to the acting admin team free of charge. I can only speak for myself, but my only involvement here is for the love of the cars. I think the people who have met me in person realize that. I've done a ton of coding and other things for this site. And I don't expect and don't want a cent for it. I don't even expect acknowledgment. As long as people are working on and loving their cars, I'm 100% happy. It's my impression that the rest of the 914World admin team feels the same way.
Thank you Mark and all other administration members.I am not sure who you ALL are yet,but Thank you for your hard work,dedication to the site and to the cars we love to hate, for getting this site back up and running for the members in no time flat and for not creating it into a infomercial. This is the club I have been a member of since day 1 and expect to be around until I am no longer wanted. Thanks again guys/gals Bob in Pittsburgh.
Posted by: grantsfo Dec 26 2006, 08:21 AM
I support both higher volume 914 BBS sites. I think it was interesting for people running the 914world.com site to take action to restore my 914club.com screen name, password, profile information, contact information and posts without my formal release and approval.
I had never agreed to terms of this new 914world site. Was the movement of my profile, information and postings a legal act? I think this would be a great case for courts to study as I have not seen this happen on the internet before. Leave it to a group of 914 enthusiasts to break new legal ground on the internet.
Posted by: r_towle Dec 26 2006, 08:44 AM
Im here,
I agree with Bill, stop worrying, let is happen. Its the natural course of things.
Rich
Posted by: PRS914-6 Dec 26 2006, 08:50 AM
I guess I am the minority (or maybe not) on the delete issue....The admins did it right on this one. Don't change it. Being able to delete\edit your own content is fair. I don't like the idea of someone deleting MY content cuz they got a hair up their ass.
I see it this way.....(right or wrong) If you start a thread on a public forum, you spoke freely and have now involved others and it is no longer private. Being able to delete YOUR words is fair. Why should you get to delete MY words just because you INITIATED it? Starting the thread only INITIATED the discussion. It would be like starting a discussion in the office and when YOU left you told everyone they could not keep talking about it......You don't always get to stop (or take back)what you said or started anywhere in life. So, a good thing to remember is....You never regret what you DON'T say.
Posted by: grantsfo Dec 26 2006, 09:09 AM
Ernie, the site is running on Andy's company servers using Andy's company bandwidth. He has offered this to the acting admin team free of charge. I can only speak for myself, but my only involvement here is for the love of the cars. I think the people who have met me in person realize that. I've done a ton of coding and other things for this site. And I don't expect and don't want a cent for it. I don't even expect acknowledgment. As long as people are working on and loving their cars, I'm 100% happy. It's my impression that the rest of the 914World admin team feels the same way.
Dont you expect some commercial activity from this site? If you didnt why have your engine building service in your signature? Don't you and others running this site who own 914 businesses now derive some level of benefit from 914world.com?
I support you guys 100%, but I think its important to be honest about the fact that several of you 914world Admins have businesses that benefit from 914 community. After your breakup with the 914club I dont think you guys had much of a choice other than to setup this 914world.com site.
Both 914club.com and 914world.com work for me. Keep up the great work!
Posted by: TROJANMAN Dec 26 2006, 09:11 AM
I support both big 914 BBS sites. I think it was strange for people running the site here to assume it was ok to restore my 914club.com screen name, profile information, contact information and posts without my permission.
I had never agreed to terms of this site. Wasnt that act illegal? I think this would be a great case for courts to study as I have not seen this happen on the internet before. Leave it to a group of 914 enthusiasts to break new legal ground on the internet.
Posted by: faux916 Dec 26 2006, 09:27 AM
I support both big 914 BBS sites. I think it was strange for people running the site here to assume it was ok to restore my 914club.com screen name, profile information, contact information and posts without my permission.
I had never agreed to terms of this site. Wasnt that act illegal? I think this would be a great case for courts to study as I have not seen this happen on the internet before. Leave it to a group of 914 enthusiasts to break new legal ground on the internet.
Posted by: DNHunt Dec 26 2006, 09:35 AM
Grant
If they do benefit, so what? They donate time and effort (and at least lately, peace of mind). Is it wrong that they derive some indirect benefit from this? Isn't this the same as a business man that joins a service club to help their community? The service clubs do good things but, there is also business done at meetings and events.
For that matter, isn't there benefit to the non-members? How many people read these forums and find a supplier for something they want or need knowing that the part or service is targetted to their needs? How many vendors have you found through these forums? I know I have found a few.
For me, that's a win win situation.
Dave
Posted by: TROJANMAN Dec 26 2006, 09:37 AM
picking up where he left off.........
I'm surprised he isn't 'unregistered' yet 
Posted by: grantsfo Dec 26 2006, 09:44 AM
Grant
If they do benefit, so what? They donate time and effort (and at least lately, peace of mind). Is it wrong that they derive some indirect benefit from this? Isn't this the same as a business man that joins a service club to help their community? The service clubs do good things but, there is also business done at meetings and events.
For that matter, isn't there benefit to the non-members? How many people read these forums and find a supplier for something they want or need knowing that the part or service is targetted to their needs? How many vendors have you found through these forums? I know I have found a few.
For me, that's a win win situation.
Dave
Thats my point. Why hide behind altruistic posts that claim no economic benefit comes from involvement on this site? I appluad people who can make a money from supporting the 914 community. I believe commercial interests are what make the bigger sites like 914world and 914club viable. I see it as a win win too.
Posted by: boxstr Dec 26 2006, 09:50 AM
CAMP 914 obviously is a 914 related business. I receive benefit from any and all 914 sites.
When asked I contributed to the 914club.com site. If I was asked I would do the same here or at any of the other sites.
If feel it is part of doing business, and that is to support, in what ever way I can the 914 sites that has the members who enjoy the 914.
I send all kinds of CAMP 914 items to the organizers of events all over the country.
If I did not enjoy the Porsche 914 I wouldn't do what I do. The club sites are just a side benefit and the West Coast Classics are something that helps bring a body to the name on the screen.
It may seem commercial, and I will be the first , if asked to help support.
CCL
Posted by: TROJANMAN Dec 26 2006, 10:00 AM
When asked I contributed to the 914club.com site. If I was asked I would do the same here or at any of the other sites.
Craig,
CLUBNARP.com would like you to write us a check to be part of our 914 community. $1000 ought to do it.
CCLINTHEMONEY
Posted by: boxstr Dec 26 2006, 10:02 AM
PAYPAL okay??
CCL
Posted by: TROJANMAN Dec 26 2006, 10:02 AM
as long as the name on the account isn't Eugene
do you still need that brake cap?
Posted by: nine14cats Dec 26 2006, 12:07 PM
I guess I am the minority (or maybe not) on the delete issue....The admins did it right on this one. Don't change it. Being able to delete\edit your own content is fair. I don't like the idea of someone deleting MY content cuz they got a hair up their ass.
I see it this way.....(right or wrong) If you start a thread on a public forum, you spoke freely and have now involved others and it is no longer private. Being able to delete YOUR words is fair. Why should you get to delete MY words just because you INITIATED it? Starting the thread only INITIATED the discussion. It would be like starting a discussion in the office and when YOU left you told everyone they could not keep talking about it......You don't always get to stop (or take back)what you said or started anywhere in life. So, a good thing to remember is....You never regret what you DON'T say.
I understand where folks are coming from and generally agree with this postition. The one thing that really is tough for me to accept is stopping a thread of mine that has gone off course, either due to my replies or those of other folks. In the real world I can choose to either excuse myself from a conversation or ask someone to leave. In the cyberworld not only will they not leave, but some of these folks will continue to post just to pollute a thread with off topic drivel. If I'm asking about wheel bearings and someone keeps posting about their cat, I don't like it. And there have been times where a debate escalates to personal attacks, or very close.
I have been involved in this very thing, and when you look back on the thread, you see that either yourself, your friend, or just an online "entity" have posted unfortunate remarks. In a face to face conversation, what is said is heard by those in the room. When the conversation is over, that's it. If the parties involved choose not to spread the conversation, it stays in that room. In the 914World forums, the conversation between participants can be replayed over and over and over for anyone coming in. What if I choose for that not to happen? Why can't I terminate it? It's really the other side of the coin to your argument. You argue once you say it, it's there for eternity and I have not right to take your comments away. But what if you or I said something unfortunate, or at a basic level so much drivel crept into a thread that it wasn't enjoyable or positive reading, but just a diluted waste of disk space? Why not delete it and try again to keep the topic clean?
I've actually done that in the past, where I started a topic and a heated debate ensued not only between myself and an original replier, but also from the peanut gallery. Just like we saw with the implosion of the 914 community, inappropriate things were said and it made everyone look silly. So instead of living with a thread about tires or brake pads that has 10% on topic material and 90% OT material that hurts feelings and sounds stupid, I deleted the entire thread and started a new one. Everyone calmed down and we posted on topic and the thread was fine. When something is wrong, why do we have a fascination to keep our dirty laundry up for all to see till the end of time, or until the server is unplugged?
I would agree with you 100% if all the replies were respectful. But that isn't always the case in this forum or any other forum. Look at all the folks that sling mud hiding behind screen names. That is extreme example, but the 914 community is extreme in behavior.
My point is that if someone starts a thread and doesn't feel comfortable with the way it goes, let the person that authored the thread to have the decision making to keep it or not. If the admin has it only, that puts them in the "God" position, which they shouldn't have to deal with. And let's say I delete a topic and you don't agree with it. You could still have a rebuttal by posting a thread with the topic of the rebuttal "I disagree with Bill P. because....." and continue the conversation. If I was strong in my convictions I wouldn't participate in your thread, but you would most assuredly have folks weighing in, and your point or points could be fleshed out more. But at least your thread would hopefully be what you want, not become something you didn't want.....
My opinion only....and I'm still posting here even though I do not agree with the 914World's position.
Bill P.
Posted by: GTeener Dec 26 2006, 03:22 PM
There are 4 914 sites we can flounder around too, Pelican,NARP,914club and 914world.
5 if you count Rennlist
Posted by: GTeener Dec 26 2006, 03:44 PM
We can take a vote about the Delete function
Hopefully the server is backed up daily, so some of these "global delete in anger" issues are moot anyway.
Posted by: jgara962 Dec 26 2006, 03:56 PM
Just checking to see if everything is working. I found out about 914 World from the Thank You e-mail I received from ClubNARP.
I feel like I'm in a parallel universe...
Posted by: GTeener Dec 26 2006, 03:58 PM
Just checking to see if everything is working. I found out about 914 World from the Thank You e-mail I received from ClubNARP.
I feel like I'm in a parallel universe...
You're not alone...
Posted by: cooltimes Dec 26 2006, 04:05 PM
There are 4 914 sites we can flounder around too, Pelican,NARP,914club and 914world.
5 if you count Rennlist
Don't forget,
www.RoadGlue.com
A top notch site that Randy and Glenn put back up where 914 is still the king and the main substance of conversation.
Smaller, in your own garage, type site.
Cooltimes
Posted by: 914-8 Dec 26 2006, 04:17 PM
In the real world I can choose to either excuse myself from a conversation or ask someone to leave. In the cyberworld not only will they not leave, but some of these folks will continue to post just to pollute a thread with off topic drivel.
. . . In a face to face conversation, what is said is heard by those in the room. When the conversation is over, that's it. If the parties involved choose not to spread the conversation, it stays in that room. In the 914World forums, the conversation between participants can be replayed over and over and over for anyone coming in. What if I choose for that not to happen? Why can't I terminate it?
Bill P.
View this like a community room, say a bar. In the real world, you can excuse yourself from a conversation, but you can't force others to leave, or force them to stop the conversation, or force them to not replay it over and over again for anyone new coming into the bar. The most you can do is leave and ignore it. No one is going to ask your permission, "Hey, since you started this conversation, do you mind if we keep it going after you leave?"
If a thread you start goes a way you don't want, just ignore it. No one is going to fault you for starting the tread. Unlike the real world, you can even edit out or delete your own posts so your participation in the thread is completely gone. Why do you need more than that?
Giving everyone the power to delete the posts of others is a bad move, IMO.
Posted by: Travis Neff Dec 26 2006, 04:42 PM
Grant,
For the life of me I cannot figure out if you are walking on your hands or your feet when you speak.
First it is bad, then it is good, then it is a puzzle for the same topic. If you don't like your information automatically populated here, why are you here participating? And if you are ok with both sites running dual content, why are you complaining about the login? Your comments must be just for your own entertainment.
I have a perception that you will participate in any heated topic just to see who you can piss off, flip sides then backpeddle once you pissed everyone off.
OK your turn. Postive, Negative or Indescisive. Maybe you can do all of them
Posted by: nine14cats Dec 26 2006, 05:41 PM
In the real world I can choose to either excuse myself from a conversation or ask someone to leave. In the cyberworld not only will they not leave, but some of these folks will continue to post just to pollute a thread with off topic drivel.
. . . In a face to face conversation, what is said is heard by those in the room. When the conversation is over, that's it. If the parties involved choose not to spread the conversation, it stays in that room. In the 914World forums, the conversation between participants can be replayed over and over and over for anyone coming in. What if I choose for that not to happen? Why can't I terminate it?
Bill P.
View this like a community room, say a bar. In the real world, you can excuse yourself from a conversation, but you can't force others to leave, or force them to stop the conversation, or force them to not replay it over and over again for anyone new coming into the bar. The most you can do is leave and ignore it. No one is going to ask your permission, "Hey, since you started this conversation, do you mind if we keep it going after you leave?"
If a thread you start goes a way you don't want, just ignore it. No one is going to fault you for starting the tread. Unlike the real world, you can even edit out or delete your own posts so your participation in the thread is completely gone. Why do you need more than that?
Giving everyone the power to delete the posts of others is a bad move, IMO.
Excellent point and I mostly agree with what you are saying. However, the distinction I'm drawing is that from most of the bars I go to, we can't remember the particulars from the night before...
....just kidding... What I'm trying to say is that at a bar in a certain discussion, I can walk away and the rest of the patrons can still talk about the topic I started. But I've never been to a bar that wrote down word for word what was talked about or tape recorded your conversation to play back the next day, week or month. For whatever reason, I normally remember the gist of a conversation, but I normally don't remember it word for word. In the cyberworld it is word for word.
If you gave the delete back I'm positive that some folks would come in here and dump everything. Let them. It's closure, although in the realm of things it doesn't matter. And truthfully, I won't lose sleep over it. Just the civil tone of our conversation here is fine. But in reality, our conversation has encroached on Qarl's orginal "I'm so confused" thread. Maybe he finds it offensive and wants to remove it. As the thread starter he has the right. At least that's my position.
I've had an ADMIN call me names, insult my integrity both personally and professionally in the heat of a debate. I wasn't too nice either. I chose to delete the thread so that other's couldn't twist it into something else. The admin is a friend and we were both out of line. The delete topic button allowed me to let that wound heal, not have it out in the open for all to pick at. 914World isn't a bar. It has a Garage which to me has a more "family" distinction versus a bar. ClubNARP has a bar, The Tavern. That fits more into the bar scene for me. And I like going to bars, so I'll hit the The Tavern from time to time.
So since you can only have it one way, a delete button or no delete button, I vote give the power to the thread starter. At the very least it isn't the admins being the policeman, it is the community. If you don't like it that I deleted a thread, you can call me out on it in front of the community. I could then respond why I did it. Or not. Self policing.
Bill P.
Posted by: grantsfo Dec 26 2006, 06:02 PM
Grant,
For the life of me I cannot figure out if you are walking on your hands or your feet when you speak.
First it is bad, then it is good, then it is a puzzle for the same topic. If you don't like your information automatically populated here, why are you here participating? And if you are ok with both sites running dual content, why are you complaining about the login? Your comments must be just for your own entertainment.
I have a perception that you will participate in any heated topic just to see who you can piss off, flip sides then backpedal once you pissed everyone off.
OK your turn. Positive, Negative or Indecisive. Maybe you can do all of them
I never indicated whether I agree or disagree with my profile information and historical posts from 914club being populated on this new 914world forum. I merely stated fact that my profile, historical posts, etc were populated here without my consent. I do believe the Admins here have set an interesting legal precedent in the online forum world. Wouldn't you agree? Be careful not to mix my factual statements with your perceptions. I can understand why you may be confused.
“Many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our point of view.”
~ Obi-Wan Kenobi
Posted by: Travis Neff Dec 26 2006, 06:06 PM
Wouldn't you agree? Be careful not to mix my factual statements with your perceptions. I can understand why you may be confused.
“Many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our point of view.”
~ Obi-Wan Kenobi
Not really.
Posted by: Headrage Dec 26 2006, 06:15 PM
IIRC, and please forgive me if I'm wrong but, wasn't there quite a few posts during this whole mess that indicated the content would be restored in it's entirety.
I think people have done nothing more than honor their word.
Posted by: Meredith Dec 26 2006, 06:28 PM
What's the track fee?
Posted by: seanery Dec 26 2006, 07:34 PM
What's the track fee?
free for you Mer!
Posted by: brant Dec 26 2006, 08:27 PM
Thanks for the hard work guys...
oh and do we have a cuckoo smilley?
I believe grant has lost it.
Posted by: wheelo Dec 26 2006, 08:40 PM
Thanks Guys !
For keeping the Spirit Alive .......
- M
Posted by: grantsfo Dec 26 2006, 08:47 PM
oh and do we have a cuckoo smilley?
I believe grant has lost it.
...it took you until this site and this post to figure that out?
I'm pretty sure I had "lost it " when I started writing $2500 checks every couple months to turn my 914 into a race car earlier this year. I'm sure you're not too far off from needing that same cuckoo smiley.
Posted by: Aaron Cox Dec 26 2006, 08:49 PM
grant likes to use the "Chewbacca defense"
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/08/0330chewbacca.jpg/200px-0330chewbacca.jpg&imgrefurl=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chewbacca_Defense&h=147&w=200&sz=6&hl=en&start=1&tbnid=lI6TxcrxIzftjM:&tbnh=76&tbnw=104&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dsouth%2Bpark%2Bchewbacca%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26safe%3Doff%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26hs%3DIVO%26sa%3DN
Posted by: grantsfo Dec 26 2006, 08:57 PM
oh and do we have a cuckoo smilley?
I believe grant has lost it.
...it took you until this site and this post to figure that out?
I'm pretty sure I had "lost it " when I started writing $2500 checks every couple months to turn my 914 into a race car earlier this year. I'm sure you're not too far off from needing that same cuckoo smiley. that was sooo like the "chewbacca" argument on southpark... LOL
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/08/0330chewbacca.jpg/200px-0330chewbacca.jpg&imgrefurl=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chewbacca_Defense&h=147&w=200&sz=6&hl=en&start=1&tbnid=lI6TxcrxIzftjM:&tbnh=76&tbnw=104&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dsouth%2Bpark%2Bchewbacca%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26safe%3Doff%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26hs%3DIVO%26sa%3DN
Wasnt aware there was an arguement. However it was nice of an "esteemed" 914world admin to weigh in with some witty insight.
Posted by: orange914 Dec 26 2006, 08:58 PM
There are 4 914 sites we can flounder around too, Pelican,NARP,914club and 914world.
i just was made aware of roadglue.com too.
i'm confused
ifound this site today and found i was registered (carry over from old? 914club??) why is there still 914club online without the past content and now 914 world contains it? are ALL previous 6000+ members aware of this site, i know i wasn't
honestly this site did immediately feel like home -old faces-old history/articles...even my old p.m.'s
i just want the dust to settle and become a teener commmunity again 
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Posted by: Aaron Cox Dec 26 2006, 09:25 PM
oh and do we have a cuckoo smilley?
I believe grant has lost it.
...it took you until this site and this post to figure that out?
I'm pretty sure I had "lost it " when I started writing $2500 checks every couple months to turn my 914 into a race car earlier this year. I'm sure you're not too far off from needing that same cuckoo smiley. that was sooo like the "chewbacca" argument on southpark... LOL
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/08/0330chewbacca.jpg/200px-0330chewbacca.jpg&imgrefurl=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chewbacca_Defense&h=147&w=200&sz=6&hl=en&start=1&tbnid=lI6TxcrxIzftjM:&tbnh=76&tbnw=104&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dsouth%2Bpark%2Bchewbacca%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26safe%3Doff%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26hs%3DIVO%26sa%3DN
Wasnt aware there was an arguement. However it was nice of an "esteemed" 914world admin to weigh in with some witty insight.
i edited it before your post to clarify the funny....
if you see the episode, you will get a kick out of it
Posted by: faux916 Dec 27 2006, 08:46 AM
There are 4 914 sites we can flounder around too, Pelican,NARP,914club and 914world.
i just was made aware of roadglue.com too.
i'm confused
ifound this site today and found i was registered (carry over from old? 914club??) why is there still 914club online without the past content and now 914 world contains it? are ALL previous 6000+ members aware of this site, i know i wasn't
honestly this site did immediately feel like home -old faces-old history/articles...even my old p.m.'s
i just want the dust to settle and become a teener commmunity again Well then this is where you want to be! Welcome Back!
Posted by: gopack Dec 27 2006, 09:44 AM
As far as deleteing threads, there are a lot of good reasons pro and con. Why can't you do something like this:
Allow any user to delete a thread HE (or she) started, only withing 5 days of the thread origination. That would allow renegade threads that had veered off topic to get blasted, but not allow anyone to maliciously delete all threads started just to gain closure or revenge?
Alternatively, you could allow one thread to be deleted each week by anyone that started a thread. not a global delete all to get back at the group! or even a 10 thread lifetime maximum benefit liek health insurance. or 5 timea a calencar year there are many variations, and the admins can always override the limits upon request!
none of these may be fesable, but i have found that a good programmer can usually give me what ever it is I can dream up IF it is worth having!
PEACE on EARTH BABY!
Posted by: mikez Dec 27 2006, 09:47 AM
There are 4 914 sites we can flounder around too, Pelican,NARP,914club and 914world.
i just was made aware of roadglue.com too.
i'm confused
ifound this site today and found i was registered (carry over from old? 914club??) why is there still 914club online without the past content and now 914 world contains it? are ALL previous 6000+ members aware of this site, i know i wasn't
honestly this site did immediately feel like home -old faces-old history/articles...even my old p.m.'s
i just want the dust to settle and become a teener commmunity again You didn't get the memo?
Posted by: rhodyguy Dec 27 2006, 10:13 AM
having been pushed in to the position of deleting a thread or 2 or 3, i feel it should be left to discretion of the thread starter. i seriously doubt a thread with significant technical application would be yanked. we don't have the option to delete an unwanted, inappropriate comment or reply to say a classified posting. i went through 2 admins to try to rectify this same situation. one said, no big thing as he saw it. the second suggested i just delete the ad and start over.
k
Posted by: Air_Cooled_Nut Dec 27 2006, 10:33 AM
There are 4 914 sites we can flounder around too, Pelican,NARP,914club and 914world.
i just was made aware of roadglue.com too...
Jeezuz...way too many competing forums. C'mon people. Talk about diluting the content
Reminds me of gangs but without the deaths
Well, time will definitely play a part in attrition. The lesser used forums will only stay standing in defiance if for no other real reason
Posted by: orange914 Dec 27 2006, 11:03 AM
There are 4 914 sites we can flounder around too, Pelican,NARP,914club and 914world.
i just was made aware of roadglue.com too.
i'm confused
ifound this site today and found i was registered (carry over from old? 914club??) why is there still 914club online without the past content and now 914 world contains it? are ALL previous 6000+ members aware of this site, i know i wasn't
honestly this site did immediately feel like home -old faces-old history/articles...even my old p.m.'s
i just want the dust to settle and become a teener commmunity again You didn't get the memo?
no
Posted by: jfort Dec 27 2006, 11:03 AM
I didn't get the invitation email, but I found my way anyway. It does feel like home here. Glad to see all the content restored and accessible. That, in my opinion, is the most valuable thing. Which leads to a response to some of the prior postings. I don't care that my account/profile was transferred. I can delete it if I want, but I won't. I think that group discussions belong to the group and should not be deleted for any reason. If someone wants a private discussion, well, that is why God invented email. Now, when are all the world.com hats and decals coming out, Sean?
Posted by: mikez Dec 27 2006, 11:28 AM
If anyone DIDN'T get the memo....check your email listed under the MY CONTROLS....
You also might want to enable "admin email" options.....
Posted by: seanery Dec 27 2006, 11:30 AM
If anyone DIDN'T get the memo....check your email listed under the MY CONTROLS....
You also might want to enable "admin email" options.....
or check your spam folder in your email program
Posted by: jfort Dec 27 2006, 11:35 AM
You are right, Sean (don't you love it when someone tells you that?). The invitation email/memo was in my junk email.
Posted by: ClayPerrine Dec 27 2006, 11:44 AM
You are right, Sean (don't you love it when someone tells you that?). The invitation email/memo was in my junk email.
Please don't tell him that... he already has a fat head.. he doesn't need the ego boost of someone telling him he was right..
Posted by: Lawrence Dec 27 2006, 11:48 AM
Please don't tell him that... he already has a fat head.. he doesn't need the ego boost of someone telling him he was right..
Ya, ya... he's fat. You're short. So what?
Posted by: ClayPerrine Dec 27 2006, 11:49 AM
Please don't tell him that... he already has a fat head.. he doesn't need the ego boost of someone telling him he was right..
Ya, ya... he's fat. You're short. So what?
Don't start on the short jokes purple car boy....
You aren't much taller than me.
Posted by: Lawrence Dec 27 2006, 11:52 AM
Did it strain your neck to look this far up?
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