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Posted by: r_towle Nov 20 2003, 08:40 AM

What is the racing trick to keep these sucker tight???

Is it just part of weekly maintenance???

Or, is there a fabbed kit out there to put in longer bolts and a nylon nut on the back?

Or, how about drilling out the heads and wiring them in somehow?????

Rich

Posted by: brant Nov 20 2003, 09:11 AM

Use the factory style correct lock washers....
Use New ones.
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Posted by: redshift Nov 20 2003, 09:14 AM

Yes yes. Make sure the new ones you use are super-clean before you install them, make sure you use the proper torque.

I haven't had a lose one in just over 13,000 miles.

-wood knocking smiley-

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Posted by: r_towle Nov 20 2003, 09:18 AM

Are these the wavy washers or conventional lock washers??

I have both in the box of bolts from my 914's, just want to use the right ones.....

Rich

Posted by: James Adams Nov 20 2003, 09:28 AM

Neither - it is a Schnorr washer and it is serated on both sides and dished.


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Posted by: edgetoo Nov 20 2003, 09:32 AM

I believe that the washers are narrowand seriated. We also use the 2 hole plate. Once torqued. they seem to stay tight, but we check them every other race or so. (While road racing does not stress them that much, missed down shifts and bumps while accellerating can be sharp loads.)

Posted by: brant Nov 20 2003, 09:55 AM

But the trick in my opinion.. is to use New or nearly new washers...

I think you can order a set of new washers for about 5 bucks... a pretty economical safety investment.
brant

Posted by: r_towle Nov 20 2003, 10:07 AM

Thanx, found em,,,, look worn out I think a new set is in order.

Rich

Posted by: fuch toy Nov 20 2003, 10:28 AM

Saw a set someplace....had holes drilled it the heads for safety wires.

But with proper washers "I" never had a set work loose....

Posted by: James Adams Nov 20 2003, 10:35 AM

Part # 999 523 102 01

Posted by: Qarl Nov 25 2003, 06:40 PM

Lookie lookie... 3 bags of schnorr washers came today!


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Posted by: ArtechnikA Nov 25 2003, 09:01 PM

yes, new washers, every time. torque the fasterners to spec, 33 lbs/ft IIRC.

i drill them for safety wire, no 'somehow' to it, really. i wire them in pairs.
standard 0,032" safety wire twisted with safety wire pliers. hit the side of the head with a small grindstone in a Dremel, then use a 1/16" cobalt bit in a drill press; use plenty of cutting oil, NBD.

i like to re-torque the inboard ends after a week of road use and then wire them, the outboard ends get it before installation.

some use a half-height Nylock nut on "too long" bolts; i've never done that but i'm sure it'd work.

Posted by: Brad Roberts Nov 26 2003, 12:49 AM

Karl..

why in the world would you order that damn many ?? You need 16 total for the CV's and 12 total for the rear control arms.....LOL


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Posted by: redshift Nov 26 2003, 01:11 AM

That killed me too...

I don't think I have ever owned that many, total, ever.


M

Posted by: Qarl Nov 26 2003, 01:22 AM

I like to make necklaces out of them.

Actually they were cheap. Anybody want some schnorr washers?

Posted by: redshift Nov 26 2003, 01:24 AM

You need to get to sleep, so you can work tomorrow, so you can afford to keep them.




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Posted by: Qarl Nov 26 2003, 01:26 AM

ha ha

Posted by: Brad Roberts Nov 26 2003, 01:40 AM

Damn it Miles... let me be depressed... stop making me laugh...


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Posted by: Qarl Nov 26 2003, 09:13 AM

Yeah yeah... make your fun.

If you can find a cure for my insomnia and anxiety that would be great.

Well, just to let you know... I stopped by the PC after I went to take a wizz. I looked down at the toilet and thought of you guys!