Printable Version of Topic

Click here to view this topic in its original format

914World.com _ 914World Garage _ My First 914 FIRE

Posted by: tracks914 Feb 1 2007, 09:46 PM

Car is on the rotiserrie. The only thing I left on the car was the wiring harness and the fuse panel. The rear wires were all bundled up nicely in a bag in the engine compartment.
I was welding up a patch in the fire wall from the drivers compartment side, and I guess some sparks flew into the engine compartment and started the bag on fire.
By the time I noticed it was on fire and put it out I had some big clumps of plastic and the fused together wire was toast!!
Anyone got a good used wiring harness....cheap???

Posted by: r_towle Feb 1 2007, 09:57 PM

possibly from an Ljet, 74

Rich

Posted by: McMark Feb 1 2007, 10:05 PM

I think he needs a whole car harness, Mike.

Posted by: davep Feb 2 2007, 08:41 AM

I may have one. Did have lots at one time. PM me if you want to work out something.

Posted by: markb Feb 2 2007, 08:44 AM

You could also check with hwgunner. He's stripping a 76.

Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Feb 2 2007, 09:30 AM

QUOTE(tracks914 @ Feb 1 2007, 07:46 PM)

Car is on the rotiserrie. The only thing I left on the car was the wiring harness and the fuse panel. The rear wires were all bundled up nicely in a bag in the engine compartment.

I was welding up a patch in the fire wall from the drivers compartment side, and I guess some sparks flew into the engine compartment and started the bag on fire.

By the time I noticed it was on fire and put it out I had some big clumps of plastic and the fused together wire was toast!!
Anyone got a good used wiring harness....cheap???

If you have a 73 you need a 73 harness. They are unique. If you have a 70-71 the harnesses interchange. If you have a 74 you need a 74 it is unique. If you have a 75-76 they interchange.

Posted by: Jeffs9146 Feb 2 2007, 11:34 AM

QUOTE

I was welding up a patch in the fire wall from the drivers compartment side, and I guess some sparks flew into the engine compartment and started the bag on fire.

............

JK

Jeff

Posted by: SirAndy Feb 2 2007, 02:07 PM

QUOTE(dr914@autoatlanta.com @ Feb 2 2007, 07:30 AM)

If you have a 73 you need a 73 harness. They are unique. If you have a 70-71 the harnesses interchange. If you have a 74 you need a 74 it is unique. If you have a 75-76 they interchange.

i put a '74 harness in my '70 car and it was a lot of work to get it all right.
even needed some grinding and welding ...

save yourself a lot of headache and get a complete harness from the same year.

Andy

Posted by: tracks914 Feb 2 2007, 04:06 PM

I'm not too worried about the engine wiring because I want to go with a 6 or a Raby 4 with carbs. Even if I got one from under the dash to the rear as long as I get all the power, lighting, charging, reverse I think I can make it work from there.
Is there a difference between the 73 1.7 and 2.0 harness?Early 73 and late 73?

Posted by: GWN7 Feb 3 2007, 01:37 PM

I've got one out of a 72...not knowing any better at the time I pulled it out by cutting it in 1/2 in the middle of the tunnel.

The tail section should be the same on all years?

You can have it, if it works to splice into your existing harness if you can't find a compleat one.

It's in my shed so I hope your not in a rush as the shed is burried under snow right now.

Posted by: tracks914 Feb 3 2007, 01:52 PM

I'll PM you.
Since all I think I need is for everything but the FI it just might work.
Snow? You have snow? We have about 12" in my yard right now. We can still drive anywhere by 4x4 and don't need a snowmachine yet!!!

Posted by: orange914 Feb 9 2007, 06:26 PM

ive got a complete 71 still in the car im parting. let me know if your still l@@king

Posted by: tracks914 Nov 18 2007, 04:03 PM

If I put a complete 71 in my car will the 1.7 FI still work?
So far the only differences I see (going to the rear) are:
console gauges wiring is not there
RR Def in not there
seat belt warning lights are not there.

From the fuse panel forward shouldn't they all be the same?

If change the whole thing out, what troubles am I looking forward to??

Posted by: SirAndy Nov 18 2007, 04:11 PM

QUOTE(tracks914 @ Nov 18 2007, 02:03 PM)

If I put a complete 71 in my car will the 1.7 FI still work?

'71 in a '73 car won't work unless you do some major modifications, like a '71 steering column etc.

your best bet is to get a complete harness for your year. call EASY and ask john or call HPH and ask rich ...

Andy

http://www.easypor.com/

http://highperformancehouse.com/

Posted by: tracks914 Nov 18 2007, 08:01 PM

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Nov 18 2007, 02:11 PM)

QUOTE(tracks914 @ Nov 18 2007, 02:03 PM)

If I put a complete 71 in my car will the 1.7 FI still work?

'71 in a '73 car won't work unless you do some major modifications, like a '71 steering column etc.

So can I splice the rear section into the '73 harness?

Posted by: ClayPerrine Nov 18 2007, 09:13 PM

QUOTE(tracks914 @ Nov 18 2007, 08:01 PM)

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Nov 18 2007, 02:11 PM)

QUOTE(tracks914 @ Nov 18 2007, 02:03 PM)

If I put a complete 71 in my car will the 1.7 FI still work?

'71 in a '73 car won't work unless you do some major modifications, like a '71 steering column etc.

So can I splice the rear section into the '73 harness?

Whatever you do.... DO NOT SPLICE THE HARNESS TOGETHER

You will end up with problems that will take you months to sort out. I would follow the advice of most of the members here.. get a complete harness from a car of the same year. You will have much better luck by doing that.

Andy wrote an excellent article on how to replace the harness. Pull it now and finish the welding. Then put the replacement complete harness in the car.

Posted by: tracks914 Nov 18 2007, 09:25 PM

QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ Nov 18 2007, 07:13 PM)

Pull it now and finish the welding. Then put the replacement complete harness in the car.

Car is welded, painted and re-assembly is in progress. I was just hoping the colour coding on the harnesses was the same from year to year. Splicing and soldering wires is easy as long as blue goes to blue and green to green!!!!

Posted by: SirAndy Nov 19 2007, 11:31 AM

QUOTE(tracks914 @ Nov 18 2007, 07:25 PM)

I was just hoping the colour coding on the harnesses was the same from year to year. Splicing and soldering wires is easy as long as blue goes to blue and green to green!!!!

wires are different over the years. even in the rear ....

please don't splice ... i got a complete harness in near perfect shape from EASY for $100. they even took it out of the donor car for me, didn't have to get my hands dirty ...

look for the classic thread on how to remove & install a main harness ...

Andy

Posted by: orange914 Nov 19 2007, 05:10 PM

QUOTE(orange914 @ Feb 9 2007, 04:26 PM)

ive got a complete 71 still in the car im parting. let me know if your still l@@king

i think i still have that 71 uncut body harness $100 shipped

Posted by: tracks914 Nov 19 2007, 05:51 PM

QUOTE(orange914 @ Nov 19 2007, 03:10 PM)

i think i still have that 71 uncut body harness $100 shipped

Thanks but I have a great '71 but I need a good '73.

BTW Andy What if I was switching to carbs?? I was thinking of going with a 2256? Raby engine in this car and don't know if I really need all those wires??????