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Posted by: soloracer Nov 23 2003, 07:11 PM

Just wondering if anyone has seen an Audi engine in a 914. I read about a race car that had a turbocharged Audi engine but it was a tube frame and they basically took the entire driveline from the car (engine, transmission, axels.) I see that Audi has a couple of interesting powerplants - a twin turbo V6 and a 350 hp V8 - but noticed that Kennedy does not list the Audi brand in their list of adapter plates. Anyone know why this is? Are they too heavy? Too large? Too expensive? Just wondering because I think these engines would make decent power and have a natural kinship with the Porsche brand like VW.

Posted by: JmuRiz Nov 23 2003, 07:55 PM

In a word...YES. They are very wide, and I don't think they'd fit as nicely as a SBC or something. I'd love to find out more about it...but I have an A4 w/ the 2.8 in it, it's a big sucker. Those 5 valve heads make it REALLY wide. I'm sure it COULD work, but it'd be a lot of custome fab work.

Posted by: Thomas J Bliznik Nov 23 2003, 08:37 PM

I had the same thought!! Why not a SBC mated to the Audi automatic transmission?? Looks like a fit to me. Anyone's thoughts & idea's?? Maybe this is something a call to Kennedy would clarify.
Tom

Posted by: -P- Nov 23 2003, 08:41 PM

Hrmmm my 2.7T biturbo from my new S4 in my 914.....now that would be fun.

Posted by: andys Nov 23 2003, 09:17 PM

I don't have the exact numbers at the moment, but I recall that the 8 cyl. Audi motor weights significantly more than the SBC. I too was rather surprised. Not a good choice.

Lots of 1.8 turbo Audi/Passat motors out there that could be considered for a 914 swap......interesting too, is that you could do so WITH the 5 speed transaxle and get rid of the 901. A cable shifter would be required, as the shift shaft points rearward, and is located on the upper right side of the trans (similar toythe Boxster 5 speed). Also, there's lots of performance goodies for the 1.8T, and LSD available for the 012 5 speed transaxle.

andy

Posted by: soloracer Nov 23 2003, 09:27 PM

There is an S4 V6 turbo on Evil-bay right now that gave me a good case of the what if's. I'm sure it's reserve price will put it in Porsche 6 territory though...I bid on it just to find out

Posted by: Qarl Nov 23 2003, 11:26 PM

I know you can stick an Audi truck engine in a front-engined Porsche... ala 944!

Posted by: Brad Roberts Nov 24 2003, 12:01 AM

KEP sells the adapter for the SBC to Audi 5000 Automatic. Somebody in LA had a Automatic V8 914. The Audi box uses Ford C4 clutch packs and brake bands.


B

Posted by: Mueller Nov 24 2003, 12:10 AM

Kennedy does make or has in the past SBC to Audi transaxles (I have an old catalog with this listing)


The V6 is not too wide for the 914 engine compartment, it's the length that is a challange for some motors.

Why no one has done it?

Audi engines are not cheap, no one makes a kit (I'm betting that 90% of the SBC conversions wouldn't be done if one couldn't buy the conversion parts off the shelf)

The early Audi V6 motors are dogs, the newer ones are nice, but for your average person, too complicated with the electronics and all.

Karl, it was the 924 that used a truck motor. The 944 is half an 928 engine (boat motor )

Soloracer, the 914/audi hybrid should be legal for the Import Drags if I read the rules correctly

Posted by: Scott Carlberg Nov 24 2003, 03:38 PM

the AudiVW 1.8t motors would use the VW plate from Kennedy, at least that's what KEP
told me when I asked about putting the 1.8t into my 914.


The Audi 1.8t powered 914.....


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Posted by: Scott Carlberg Nov 24 2003, 03:42 PM

speaking of the Audi S4 motor, the 2.7 Twin Turbo 6....


that 500hp motor that Sportline (?) had on display at the German AutoFest looked
really small.


I mean, it just don't look very big, ya know!?!


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Posted by: Dman Nov 24 2003, 04:41 PM

At the moment I have both an 2.8 A4 and Biturbo S4 and visually the S4 engine looks smaller the bock is very short. The whole block sits in front of the centerline of the front wheel.

I think the Biturbo would definitely but I think the 1.8 turbo from a TT would be a better solution, chipped with exhaust ~250 HP.

The 2.8 A4 is for sale if any one is interested