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Posted by: bd1308 Apr 4 2007, 05:07 PM

Apparently there is a shift fork inside of the transmission that selects the gears....

it's loose and i cant select anything...

Unbelieveable...

Is there a screw or something or am i looking at a replacement transmission


The linkage set screws are toast too

Posted by: bd1308 Apr 4 2007, 05:13 PM

transmission is in neutral now, I suppose I should set it for a gear when i put that side shift console.

Posted by: Bartlett 914 Apr 4 2007, 05:36 PM

Remove the cover for the shift console. Can you select a gear by moving the the shifter from there?. Is it loose there? If so remove the console. See it is is broken there. Not sure but I think the oil needs to be drained for this.

Posted by: bd1308 Apr 4 2007, 05:37 PM

Yes oil does need to be drained for this.

Time for a Britt drawing....(Eric loves these)

Posted by: Aaron Cox Apr 4 2007, 05:39 PM

cone screw backed out if you have no gears.....

Posted by: Travis Neff Apr 4 2007, 06:24 PM

the set screw on your shift bar as it enters the engine compartment.

Posted by: bd1308 Apr 4 2007, 08:57 PM

no Aaron, I checked.

The shift rod at the transmission was 180 degrees out.

"I" would classify that as a failure at the transmission...........

Posted by: Joe Ricard Apr 4 2007, 09:02 PM

If you have a tail shift you can not just whip out there and quickly modify to side shift.
there are internal "things" that need to be changed.
the rod for a tail shift can not be turned 180 degrees it is held in position by the shift forks. Unless you REALLY broke it

Posted by: r_towle Apr 4 2007, 09:03 PM

take a picture and show me what you mean.
Show it from under the car, rear of the tranny.

I have everything you need, including a cut away transmission case to reset the forks if you really have a broken or loose shift fork.

Rich

Posted by: bd1308 Apr 4 2007, 09:21 PM

side shift

somebody quick with a transmission pic

Posted by: bd1308 Apr 4 2007, 09:30 PM

two pics ask two main questiosn of mine:


Attached image(s)

Posted by: Dr Evil Apr 4 2007, 10:11 PM

Not a set screw, its a roll pin. Did it shear?

Posted by: Dr Evil Apr 4 2007, 10:12 PM

Oh ya, check my link for pics of how to check the shift forks and such through the shifter console hole.

Posted by: Eric_Shea Apr 4 2007, 10:17 PM

Whip it out Pablo!

Posted by: bd1308 Apr 4 2007, 10:18 PM

99.5% sure now....

shifter shaft came 74% way out






now to fix....new roll pin 2morrow

Posted by: Eric_Shea Apr 4 2007, 10:18 PM

Britt... how come you have all the fun??

Posted by: bd1308 Apr 4 2007, 10:22 PM

bc my car is off of jackstands

thats what i get i suppose

Posted by: bd1308 Apr 4 2007, 11:12 PM

Thank goodness I get a Land Rover to drive around for five hours until the problem is fixed

lots of pics will be taken



See you all tomorrow!

Posted by: John Apr 4 2007, 11:22 PM

Good Lord!

Some people have all the luck (an others none)

I just hope your trans is ok inside with the selector and a roll pin loose in there.

Did this happen while driving? What HORRIBLE crunching sounds were heard? When you drain the gear lube, I hope you don't find many many tiny bits of metal, but I suspect that you might.

The roll pin can be replaced, but WHY did it fail? Was your car that hard to shift?

Post some pics of the carnage.

Posted by: bd1308 Apr 4 2007, 11:30 PM

I will, but it was shifting very shallow-ly into 3 and 5 (not 1 oddly enough) and very deep into R,2 and 4.

Then i wasnt able to shift into 3 or 5 at all, but could shift into 1 fine, so i just used 1,2 and 4 until i got home.

I was goign to limp over to my parents house to adjust my shift linkage, but then I had zero gears after trying to re-adjust my linkage.

Eventually, **EVERYTHING*** in my car will either be brand new, or almost new.

Posted by: bd1308 Apr 4 2007, 11:32 PM

I will post pics, and drain the gear oil too (automatically doen when i take the shift console out)


if anybody has a spare tranny, let me know. I am not doing this anymore.

I figure if everything is newly rebuilt, nothing will break for a while--then I'll actually be ABLE to gett to school and work and back.

Posted by: bd1308 Apr 5 2007, 11:40 AM

Heh.

I am good!

pulled shaft out of transmission, no key piece attached

I have it sitting on my desk

Posted by: Aaron Cox Apr 5 2007, 11:41 AM

wow.... never actually thought the roll pin would come out....

order one from mcmaster.com

Posted by: Joe Ricard Apr 5 2007, 11:52 AM

I just welded mine solid. It is amazing how much slop was eliminated.
I do not advise this however. It's just what I did.

Posted by: r_towle Apr 5 2007, 12:20 PM

Britt,
If all that happened is the roll pin came out, you can go two directions with this.

One, get a new roll pin, remove the rest of the console, fish out the shifter rod actuator, and re-assemble.

Or, get a setup all ready to go from someone,
Now, the part to remember, the actuator and roll pin go on the rod after you insert the rod through the console (that is why its not welded)

So, you need all of this on a bench.

The console has an o-ring that you either need to replace, or get some aluminum sealant while you are out and apply a liberal dose to the console to make sure it does not leak.

Rich

Posted by: bd1308 Apr 6 2007, 05:57 PM

well, the roll pin is in

and it was like six hours ago, but.....the shift actuator was installed upside down!

Ended up getting a diamond cut carbide bit to drill out the hardened roll pin and had to put new one in.

Oh and it started snowing half-way thorugh

Posted by: bd1308 Apr 6 2007, 07:23 PM

now for the reinstall tomorrow....