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Posted by: 914rick Dec 2 2003, 08:33 PM

Received my Tangerine Header today from Chris Foley. What a piece of art. It has the H/T coating, the Phase 9 Silencer, the Quiet Can and his new Heat Exchanger. I am very impressed with the quality. GREAT job Chris. I should receive my new engine (2270) back from Jake Raby in the next week or so. It is being dynoed this week. I can't wait to get these parts together and on the car. I am also having the Rennshift shifter, the Tarett front sway bar and the 911 clutch kit installed with the engine. The DE events should alot more fun next year and I also plan to try auto x for the first time. 911s, look out!!!!

Posted by: URY914 Dec 2 2003, 08:35 PM

Talk about going ALL the way.

Good for you.

Paul

Posted by: seanery Dec 2 2003, 08:35 PM

Rick this sounds bithin'!

I can't wait to see it at BarberDave's next year!!

Posted by: Kerrys914 Dec 2 2003, 08:36 PM

Nice...Your going from a 1.7L to a 2.3L engine.

Your going to have permagrin all next year

Keep us posted
Kerry

Posted by: redshift Dec 2 2003, 08:42 PM

I think I just discovered the fate of the lost Wells Fargo truck from last year.




M

Posted by: Jake Raby Dec 2 2003, 08:44 PM

Rick,
Yep you went all the way! I dynoed one just like yours today, this one made 161 ponies and 166 lb/ft of torque!

Yours will be on the dyno on Friday unless tomorrow's "Patient" breaks something... This is Dyno week!

Going all the way, all at once is the wisest choice one can make! ITS CHEAPER THAT WAY!

Posted by: Racer Chris Dec 3 2003, 06:12 AM

Thanks for the compliments Rick,
What you don't see is just as good, but you will find that out when you hook it up and start

Posted by: Air_Cooled_Nut Dec 3 2003, 10:47 AM

for us newbies that haven't seen or know where to find these Oranges/Bananas/Tangerines

Posted by: Jake Raby Dec 3 2003, 12:48 PM

Imagine a large intestine with a muffler! Best damn welding on this earth!

Posted by: Brad Roberts Dec 3 2003, 01:38 PM

Chris,

You need to post the headers in the "vendors" area with pics.


B

Posted by: ! Dec 3 2003, 01:49 PM

Can those headers be run on a Type IV that is in an ass dragger nad still remove the oil filter w/o having to take the headers off?

Posted by: maf914 Dec 3 2003, 02:00 PM

Mike,

Check the photo on the Tangerine site labeled "356 Conversion". Looks like a T4 turned around.

http://www.tangerineracing.com/images/HeaderPics/IMG_0111.JPG

Mike

Posted by: Brad Roberts Dec 3 2003, 02:14 PM

Cool. How do you keep the nuts on the bottom of the engine ??

B

Posted by: Air_Cooled_Nut Dec 3 2003, 04:33 PM

Pretty. For the prices they list they better be worth the money or else come with a free blow-job

Posted by: Brad Roberts Dec 3 2003, 04:54 PM

Ha ha ha...

How about it Foley ?? Free BJ ??

Sorry. I dont want a BJ from Foley..

Toby,

You are used to seeing VW type1 pricing on crappy products. Welcome to T4 and high quality products that fit and work correctly the first time. He is not a mass production shop and probably only sells 1 header a month.

B

Posted by: Racer Chris Dec 3 2003, 06:45 PM

Umm Mike,
I'm not even sure you can install the oil filter in the stock location with the Beetle/356 Conversion headers I make. I guess you could use different mufflers and then it would be no problem.



No, but I might do your wife at no extra charge if you buy a header.


You can't fool all the people all the time. Guess I need to take another picture, lol.

BTW, I got my hands on a used Triad/European Racing header finally and it doesn't compare favorably with mine at all. First of all the stubbies totally suck IMO. The don't even fit into the exhaust port without overtorqueing the nuts, which overstresses the weld joint where the little tube attaches to the stub. That's a sure recipe for early failure due to cracking, not to mention the guaranteed exhaust leaks. No offense to the company that produces them but it didn't take a lot of engineering or skill to produce those things.
Don't get me started!

This is a pic of Rick's system before I sent it out for recoating. It was originally built by Pete Weber and I corrected a couple of issues before adding my mufflers and the heat exchanger:


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Posted by: Brad Dec 3 2003, 06:57 PM

Hum ?? these stub tubes ?? I just installed one of these this past weekend.. and they slid right on and tightened correctly/easily.


B


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Posted by: Dave Bell Dec 3 2003, 07:08 PM

Brad -

Where can you find just those stub tubes? and how much are they?

- Dave

Posted by: Brad Roberts Dec 3 2003, 07:13 PM

Go to our vendors section and see the post for European racing.. George... from Nevada. call and ask if he sells them seperate (couldnt imagine he wouldnt sell them seperate) They use a 911sc flange/gasket on the header side of the stub tube.

You might want to wait until Chris comments on whether or not these where the "shit ones" that didnt fit for him.

I hope they are not.. I have been running this header/stub tubes for 10+ years with no serious issues.

b

Posted by: Thomas J Bliznik Dec 3 2003, 07:45 PM

Hey Rick!!
I just realized who you are. The guy from 13 & woodward?? right? You were at Ypsi. (see picture) Saturn Yellow one?? I understand you are doing a full up thingie on your already beautiful 914. Glad to have you in the SMOG group.
Tom w/the other yellow in front of U.


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Posted by: Racer Chris Dec 3 2003, 08:01 PM

Brad,
Except for a little rust I am talking about the same stubs.
They are made of 1 3/4" x .065 ERW straight tube swaged at the bottom and squeezed to hell in the middle. The swaged end is too big for the port without doing clearance work. You can't fit a socket over a 12mm nut next to the tube to properly snug the nuts.
After properly torquing them use a dental probe to check for gaps at the gasket surface, before attaching the header.
I realize that they slide on easily because the side tubes are accurately attached, but I bet they don't mate well against the gasket. Maybe 2 liter heads have a little looser port, but I doubt it since they all use the same copper gasket.

Posted by: 914rick Dec 3 2003, 08:35 PM

Tom, yes, it's me. I am looking forward to seeing you guys again next spring. I still think that you have the BEST restored 914 that I've ever seen. It looks like it just came off the showroom floor. And YES, yellow cars do go faster!!!

Sean, you are the one that convinced me to go with the Rennshift and the Tarett set-ups. Thanks. I will see you at Barber Dave's event next year and will have the car there this time.
Rick

Posted by: Jake Raby Dec 4 2003, 10:33 AM

He will have thecar there spinning sideways in second, trying to get used to MassIVe power!

Posted by: aufaber Dec 4 2003, 11:53 AM

Huh, so thats what the stock color of my car looks like. I'm 2 color changes from stock.