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Posted by: degreeoff Jun 15 2007, 04:44 PM

IT all really started when I bought her in 98...here she was



It all started when.....after many (5 or so) years of using and trying to improve my 4 cylinder performance I blew a heli coiled plug at an autoX....well that was the end I had already sunk a shit load of $$$$ into my ride and another shit load of time and I was DONE!! time for a sixer!! see the below web site for things I did previously to my lil friend by the time I blew the plug it was a 2056 with a KH header and MSD ign.



http://www.daybydayco.com/car4web/914.html




OK the scoop (AKA what I have bought so far)

-Engines [u](3)

A 2.4 ltr 2.4 with a 7r case and CIS.

A basket case 2.4 with rebuilt and ported heads, 2.2S P&C's and S+ cams +all new "stuff" to assemble it.

Lastly a rebuil 2.7 with all the good machine work done newly rebuilt heads, Ross 9.8 P&C's and GE 40 cams.

For induction I have weber 40IDS carbs

For exhaust I have European racing headers and muffler

For Ignition I have a HPV Crank fire setup

For Fuel I have a Carter rotory pump and a 15 gallon cell all lines will be AN/SS braided.

Suspension is out of a SC with Bilstein shocks, 22mm front sway stock rear sway, mono balls up front. 21mm TBars and 180lb springs

The body panels are ALL FG hood, trunk,skirts,valances,bumpers and flares.

The oil system is stock 914-6 tank and Earls front mount cooler with GT shroud

MISC stuff in no particular order.....solid mounts, Momo wheel, quick release hub, WM short shifter, Momo seats, GT door pulls, Pilot fogs, NEW Porsche exterior mirrors and a shit load I am forgetting.

Here is what she started as.......

Posted by: degreeoff Jun 15 2007, 04:46 PM

as I got under (no pun) way...EWWW!!

Posted by: degreeoff Jun 15 2007, 04:48 PM

Then there were rear pan issues......with of course clutch tube issues

Posted by: degreeoff Jun 15 2007, 04:49 PM

and then there were new pans!! AHHHHHHH

Posted by: degreeoff Jun 15 2007, 04:54 PM

now let us see a mock up of the panels in place?? BTW you will see cage pics throughout these photos....the main bars were pre bent all needed fitting and my tie in to suspension points was a custom jobby OH I forgot the 911 dash conversion peices in my parts stash descript!!

Posted by: degreeoff Jun 15 2007, 04:59 PM

The next few pics are of the things I had to weld in...engine mount, misc holes, hood pin locations my reworked tail shifter boot an few holes in the engine bay, seems under the rear suspension, stiff kit for the trailing arms la de da


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Posted by: degreeoff Jun 15 2007, 05:01 PM

more....


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Posted by: degreeoff Jun 15 2007, 05:02 PM

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Posted by: degreeoff Jun 15 2007, 05:04 PM

some pics of my oil cooler arrangement

Posted by: degreeoff Jun 15 2007, 05:05 PM

seats are important I hear? Part of this was welding in bolts to hold the seats!

Posted by: degreeoff Jun 15 2007, 05:08 PM

Some cool shots of my fuel system and oil cooler shroud

Posted by: degreeoff Jun 15 2007, 05:10 PM

a few more of my rear end suspension bracing, hood pin brackets and hoods with hood pins and a brief shot of my GT engine lid!


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Posted by: degreeoff Jun 15 2007, 05:12 PM

yet more....

Posted by: degreeoff Jun 15 2007, 05:14 PM

this brings me up to date with this........

Posted by: Blood red 914-6gt Jun 15 2007, 05:22 PM

Your car looks like it is going to be better than new when you are finished. Everything looks really nice. Wanna do mine next

Posted by: degreeoff Jun 15 2007, 05:23 PM

sure all for the low price of 1 MILLION dollars......:-)

Posted by: Blood red 914-6gt Jun 15 2007, 05:55 PM

Sounds good. I'll write you a check for that Can't wait to see what your car looks like when it is all finished.

Posted by: degreeoff Jun 15 2007, 06:02 PM

niether can I, the plan is white centered fuch's white single racing stripes and white circles on the doors....

Posted by: robby750 Jun 15 2007, 06:04 PM

Makes me so proud that my car now uses the old front sway bar that used to live in his.

Posted by: Blood red 914-6gt Jun 15 2007, 06:06 PM

Sounds awsome. I like the race car touches. Can't wait to see it.

Posted by: sendjonathanmail Jun 15 2007, 06:12 PM

wow....insane

Posted by: watsonrx13 Jun 15 2007, 06:15 PM

Most excellent....

-- Rob

Posted by: crash914 Jun 15 2007, 06:58 PM

Josh, looks great and lots of progress from the last time I saw it.

Want to help paint mine?

I got to check out the progress soon. When is the fire up party?

Posted by: degreeoff Jun 18 2007, 09:39 PM

Well SHIT! I am now going to need more paint for sure.... (after mixing) 4 gallons total applied (self etch/primer/color/clear) and I have not touched the bolt on bits!!

Posted by: degreeoff Jul 19 2007, 06:49 AM

DAMN Sept. 15th coming quick!!

New stuff done (BTW IMHO get this shit powder coated...its worth it!!)

-Painted misc underside parts

Posted by: degreeoff Jul 19 2007, 06:55 AM

ALSO word of wisdom...the rod for braking HAS to be lengthened by about 3/4" to work with a 23mm MC and the pipes that lead in from the reseviour(SP?) bent and the DAMN thing BARLEY FITS!!! but it will fit. Brake line bending is not as easy as it looks (yes I fronted for the $40 brake line kit on Ebay....)... I missed my pedal cluster pic but they are PURDY! having a cabinet sand blaster is DA BOMB!

Posted by: thesey914 Jul 19 2007, 07:24 AM

Gosh this is going to be a very nice car -great details. Lookd forward to following the progress.

Posted by: MJHanna Jul 19 2007, 07:25 AM

Nice Job!!!

Posted by: woobn8r Jul 19 2007, 08:51 AM

Beautiful Job!!!

Is that fuel tank a custom jobbie...
Where'dya get it?....very nice...

S.

Posted by: Lou W Jul 19 2007, 09:06 AM

Awesome job.

Posted by: degreeoff Jul 19 2007, 10:49 AM

fuel tank is a RCI located here http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=RCI%2D2161A&N=700+400379+115&autoview=sku and it was inexpensive too

Posted by: degreeoff Jul 19 2007, 07:25 PM

This evenings work......Sept 15th!!! good GOD MAN!! includes fitting the bushings...PIA! front suspension assembly left hand brake line, finish install of all Fuel lines to the engine bay, finish rear brake lines and of course my little 3 year old to showcase it for us!

Posted by: crash914 Jul 19 2007, 07:33 PM

WOW! Looking better and better! I smell a on the 15th.

Mine won't be near ready.. Transmission all apart and I am waiting on heads. Of course, I still need to finish the paint and body...

Looks great Josh!

Posted by: degreeoff Jul 22 2007, 02:19 PM

OK so the project goes on and on and on and on and did I mention on?

#1- pic of my pretty rebuilt pedal cluster (I know you all couldn't wait!)
#2- pic of my "EZ wiring harness" (129 bucks? 12 circuit)
#3- Starting to install it and sort it and make a hot rod harness with an engine in the front fit a mid engined car! Harder than it looks!! As I go I slip 4' lengths of heat shrink over it and seal it up...hope I didnt make a mistake!!
#4-nice and NEAT down the tunnel....
#5-nice and neat in the engine bay.....
#6-nice and neat in the trunk....

Posted by: degreeoff Jul 22 2007, 02:22 PM

Ok last shot....I installed the oil cooler and NICE AND NEAT wiring harness, the tank, pump lines etc etc etc mounted the oil cooler shroud and damn near broke my arm patting myself on the back!

Posted by: JPB Jul 22 2007, 02:34 PM

"Sometimes sickness transforms itself into greatness."

Words to live by, by:JPB



That is a sick assed ride bro! Nice job!

Posted by: degreeoff Jul 28 2007, 04:41 PM

Ok so I HAVE been working the last few days @ a JOB and a wee bit on the car...OMG! Sept 15th!!

So let me tell you the devil is in the details...SHEEZ! I thought it would be quick and simple BUT as I have once again learned the "custom" sheet takes time!

OK so I finished the oil cooler plumbing, as luck would have it the two bolts that held the old rear brake balancer were in just the right spot to put the bracket with the Mocal oil thermostat (I had to offset the bolt holes about 1/4") and the plumbing all fits in there even the adapters for AN fittings...just a little manicure of the rear quarter panel that will not be seen.

I also ran the HUGE battery cable and mounted the cutoff switch and lastly figured out a B E A utiful spot for the Crankfire setup. A few nylon spacers and it went right over the top of my harness mounting bolts/eyes....

Posted by: degreeoff Jul 28 2007, 04:44 PM

BTW I was thinking of a piece of lexan for the hole I am about to cut in the firewall for timing the car...be pretty cool to see the engine working....... any thoughts on that?

Posted by: DrifterJay Jul 28 2007, 04:48 PM

Do it!

Posted by: degreeoff Jul 28 2007, 04:53 PM

Woops CANCEL that thought.......I dont even NEED a hole cut its an HPX dial in your timing.....right??

Posted by: degreeoff Aug 5 2007, 08:04 PM

OK so the list goes on....First off a couple of weeks ago I flew my tranny up to Doc Evil to have him check it out and put in the Billet Intermediate plate, then went up Sat and picked it up...Kudo's man!...Thats a headache well worth the cashola!

- things not pictured are wiring the tank and fuel pump, also installed the sub belt eye bolts..... DONE
-wired the HPV ignition, interestingly enough the relay for my hot start kit worked for the relay on the HPV....WHO KNEW??..... DONE
-finished plumbing the fuel line to the rear of the engine bay.....DONE
-installed the oil catch tank and plumbing.....DONE
-installed the steering column and the momo adapter and the quick release, greased all bearings cleaned ETC ETC ETC...smooth as silk now....DONE
-installed 911 dash and built the lower cover panels as well as installed the Moroso OVER PRICED fricken 5 switch panel.....DONE

Posted by: degreeoff Aug 6 2007, 10:47 AM

Well I just bought this early (old but new and 1/2 modified) muffler for my 914-6 conversion and after cutting off the old tail piece found this "how to" sheet inside...

Its a simple mod and easy to do IF
-you have a welder
-have a die grinder cutoff wheel and or dremel
-have a body saw and or a dremel

The 2" pipes were already on when I bought the muffler. Here it is

Posted by: degreeoff Aug 6 2007, 10:55 AM

The "Hottie"

Posted by: degreeoff Aug 8 2007, 07:44 PM

OK long few days!! The dash is all wired.....GOD I hope it works....won't know that until I get a battery in and the painting done...call me an IDIOT! but I think I can, I think I did, AH SHEET! it'll work! I now know the wiring harness and schematic like the back of my hand. (a continuity meter is my FRIEND!)



S0........ the dash and gauges DONE!
-the horn is VERY well hidden...can you see it in the first pic? DONE!
-all gauges, and electrical items in the front of the car DONE!
-dash mounted (like my creative use of truck bed liner?)
-aluminum floorboard and exhaust hanger ORDERED!
-Custom carpet kit ORDERED!
-oil catch tank DONE
-Battery tray and ground DONE!
-GT headlight release cable housings mounted (almost DONE!)

enough I am tired......I will quit smoking cigarettes when this project is DONE! so hope everything works else I'll be smoking for another year!!

Posted by: degreeoff Aug 8 2007, 07:45 PM

OK long few days!! The dash is all wired.....GOD I hope it works....won't know that until I get a battery in and the painting done...call me an IDIOT! but I think I can, I think I did, AH SHEET! it'll work! I now know the wiring harness and schematic like the back of my hand. (a continuity meter is my FRIEND!)



S0........ the dash and gauges DONE!
-the horn is VERY well hidden...can you see it in the first pic? DONE!
-all gauges, and electrical items in the front of the car DONE!
-dash mounted (like my creative use of truck bed liner?)
-aluminum floorboard and exhaust hanger ORDERED!
-Custom carpet kit ORDERED!
-oil catch tank DONE
-Battery tray and ground DONE!
-GT headlight release cable housings mounted (almost DONE!)

enough I am tired......I will quit smoking cigarettes when this project is DONE! so hope everything works else I'll be smoking for another year!!

Posted by: krazykonrad Aug 8 2007, 08:16 PM

Man, that is oneawesome ride! And i thought it was pretty cool BEFORE you started. Keep up the great work. I cant wait to see the engine in!
Konrad, 72/4

Posted by: degreeoff Aug 9 2007, 02:47 PM

I know its tacky...but safe (1/4" lexan) and EASY to do timing...not to mention I'll get to see the BEAST @ work The strip is a VW product...so trunk edging?

Posted by: Luke Aug 9 2007, 06:14 PM

Wow .. nice job! ...

I really like the striped down look ... and the green too .. what color is it ? ...

Posted by: degreeoff Aug 10 2007, 05:04 AM

The color is POR 137

Thanks I dig it!

Posted by: charliew Aug 10 2007, 04:14 PM

This is a great build. I really like all the detailed pictures. I'm starting a subie conversion and have printed many of your pictures for reference of body details and your ideas. I am trying to decide how to stiffen the body for street use. I am going to build a front motor mount similiar to your's for the subie. The only suggestion I would give is to run the ground to the motor or tranny first then to the body or also to the body. I would not count on a forever good ground through the body to the motor. I imagine you are going to use the ground strap from the tranny to the body. This means you have two areas that have to remain good. Also use dielectric gease on all the connections. A few years down to road and you will be happy you did. You have gone to great detail on your build, I love it. What brand and type of paint did you use? I read where it was self etching primer so I guess it was two part epoxy primer and probably non sanding so that will probably be forever. Is the top coat single stage urethane? I wish the 914 group could get a fleet discount from ppg or some other company. We could cut paint cost in half. For a short time I could get a discount on ppg and it was about 40% less on the price. I'm anxious to see the completion. Thanks again for the pictures I probably would have paid cash for them.
Charlie

Posted by: degreeoff Aug 23 2007, 07:10 PM

BLEEP BLEEP BLEEP, This an announcement of the emergency broadcast system.......IF I had Put my life on hold and NOT gotten some bad news from my Ex (she may move) with my daughter! (far away....) sooo I need to finish my basement off to accommodate an extra bedroom for my daughter for the courts to see I have a "room for her" because we will go to court and it'll be trouble!...so cars on hold whilst I prepare for D day (3 months +(-)

I will bring it to the ECC on a trailer just for fun and will most likely have it painted but bare without engine....SHIT!!

Posted by: brer Aug 23 2007, 11:03 PM

Thats my color!





Edit:
Just read the next post, sorry to hear that.
Hope things work out alright.

Posted by: Dr Evil Aug 24 2007, 01:04 PM

Dude, I am gonna copy your idea of the edge trim on the hole. Nice

Sorry about the Ex

Posted by: degreeoff Aug 24 2007, 06:08 PM

Thanks Mike! It looks really sweet in person too ....should be centered on the fan...nice touch and cool to see the ole workhorse running!

SO far as the ex goes....Ah sheet, I never should have RE involved myself with her anyway....but I will finish the car...just not B4 I am done with the basement...hopefully by next spring I'll be sorted and tracking!!

Posted by: grantsfo Aug 24 2007, 08:53 PM

Great work!

Posted by: degreeoff Dec 20 2007, 04:22 PM

Well an update.......Me thinks the whole Daughter momma drama is about over for the time being so I will comence work on the project begining of the new year!!

Posted by: type11969 Dec 21 2007, 07:24 AM

Hope it worked out in your favor, looking forward to updates on your ryde!

Posted by: Vacca Rabite Dec 21 2007, 08:56 AM

Wanted to echo what Chris said.

Hope it worked out and your girl does not have to leave the state.

Also, I wanna see pics on how you are doing your "GT" pop-up lights. I'm so going to bite off your design.

Zach

Posted by: Jeff Hail Dec 22 2007, 01:48 AM

I do not like to critique other peoples work. I try to keep my mouth shut unless it's my own project. I am sincerely impressed with the work on this project. Well thought out and executed. Done right! Time and patience always pays off in the end result and this projects reflects exactly that. Even the little girl approves! I am not a fan of green but I love this one. Can't wait to see it completed. Well done so far! Kudo's

Posted by: degreeoff Dec 22 2007, 02:08 PM

OK so some pics that were saved and work done before the ordeal.....

1- fresh off the forklift with a custom body brace to prevent scratches (this was a couple weeks before the issues started with the ex)

2- I forgot how small the car was having been on the rot for so long!

3-My secret GT headlight raising mechanism...I WILL post a better explaination of this later

4- LIKE a JACKASS I went ahead and painted the undersides of all the bumpers and such BEFORE I checked fitment....

Posted by: degreeoff Dec 22 2007, 02:14 PM

And then I tried to mount everything.......

So the next 6 pics show briefly how bad it was and all the trimmin and shortning and smoothin I went through to get em straight and B E A U tiful....

Posted by: degreeoff Dec 22 2007, 02:15 PM

And lastly how she sat for the last 3 months......

Posted by: daveyboybadion Dec 23 2007, 10:49 AM

I hope to do much the same build some day. Really looks great. Now quit teasing us and get back to work...daveyboy

Posted by: GS Guy Dec 23 2007, 12:12 PM

Bumpers looking good! (now that is)
I think the color looks great - going to be a great looking and eye catching car when you're done.
Is that a Megan racing catch can you're running? How's the quality and overall impression?

Jeff

Posted by: degreeoff Dec 23 2007, 12:24 PM

Meagn racing catch....what is ummmm that? you mean the hood pins? Straight out of summit racing

Posted by: GS Guy Dec 23 2007, 12:35 PM

Ooo - meant the oil catch can/breather you've got mounted in the trunk.



Jeff

Posted by: degreeoff Dec 23 2007, 12:43 PM

Naw its some Ebay buy...and it fit fine and looks good enough, as to its workings....well I gotta get the engine in then I'll know...As Zach is planning I want to have this beast done by spring for the autoX and club racing festivities!!

Posted by: degreeoff Dec 23 2007, 10:40 PM

Now if only she were done when I wake up Xmas morn....I will settle for the look on my daughter/neice/nephews and girlfreinds faces when they open their gifts!

Posted by: Vacca Rabite Dec 24 2007, 09:51 AM

Thats awesome dude!
Merry Christmas to you and yours.

Zach

Posted by: degreeoff Jan 6 2008, 11:36 AM

Well I am on it now....Progress includes teardown of my 2.4 ltr doner which was a STEAL!! I found this motor on the bird board and bought it because it was a 2.4 with a 7r case for my # 2 engine . Guy had it sitting in the kitchen of his high $$$ NW DC apt on the 9th floor. it came complete!! with hyd tensioners, SSI's, complete CIS, dizzy with Ign module upgrade, and turbo valve covers and something I just discovered...a neat billit sump plate cover.....I paid $950....I sold the CIS for $275 and the rest will pay for plus profit me I am sure as well as give me a 'T' motor 7R case that will end up with my 2.2 'S' pistons and 'S' cams with 'S' spec ported heads!!!!1 Ha ha ha ha ha...2 engines @ 200+ HP....More power Ru hu hu hugh. (yes I will be looking for a ass dragger after I finish this car)

The short block you see is a 50k mile motor already line bored with case savers and will be a 2.7 with 9.5 to 1 Ross P & C's, GE 40 cams, ported heads, webers and a crank fire ignition. You see my bench where I have yellow storage bins full of all my rebuild hardware from PP with typed labels...anal I know!!

Posted by: Blood red 914-6gt Jan 6 2008, 01:53 PM

You sold the CIS for 250? I would have thought you could have got a lot more for that.

Nice score. I must say I'm kinda jealous. I really want to build a 2.4 into a 2.5 myself.

Posted by: degreeoff Jan 10 2008, 05:41 PM

Well I got the P&C's on...deck height @ .987mm....ouuu its tight but it'll live with the Ross pistons and GE40 cams...while installing I A) forgot while on piston/cylinder #5 that the wrist pins needed 2 spiralloc retainers...(I had a bag of of them and thought there were 6...LOL) @ 5 I realized that there were 12 MINUS 1! that I now wait for from Cali.... AND that one of my cylinders had a wee bit of pitting on the sealing surface that I needed to swap out...THANK THE LORD I had a spare set from one of my spare motors....of the same height group

I will keep ya'll up to date as I progress as this is my first 911 build and I am SURE I will F up a few more times.....Cam timing is going to be a bitch....

Posted by: crash914 Jan 10 2008, 05:59 PM

Nice!

Give me a call if you need a hand, I got nothing but time now....

Posted by: degreeoff Jan 10 2008, 06:06 PM

Well Herb if all goes well I will be having my own start her and tune her party this spring with maybe a ECC held here??? I have a fair amount of room for it.

Posted by: jaminM3 Jan 14 2008, 10:08 AM

I thought less than 1.3mm of deck height is pushing it? You may want to do the valve to piston clearance check just to be sure.

Posted by: Lou W Jan 15 2008, 10:36 PM

Sure is looking good.

Posted by: degreeoff Jan 27 2008, 08:27 AM

Ok so I started out with waynes book How to rebuild and modify porsche 911 engines......OKay it was a big help BUT with some of the writing....It took me 6- re-reads to understand some of it ( all cam timing issues before it clicked into place....THEN it really clicked. I could do one of these in my sleep.

So the spiralocs came in from Cali, folks over there @ Ross pistons kick ass! They just sent me some @ no charge even though I didnt originally buy the pistons cool shit.

Pics are of the mock up / preassemble showing cam timing and the sprocket depth measurements. I got the tools off Ebay and they were a hell of alot cheaper than the pelican tools and the last one is of my purdy baby all set and ready to be sealed up. I have all my valve covers/cam tower covers/fan/fan housing/ intake manifolds/throttle linkage/K&N airfilter tops-bottoms getting powder coated now...it'll be a red and black motife' (sp?)

Posted by: GS Guy Jan 27 2008, 08:42 AM

Who's doing your powder coat work? Local? Always on the lookout for a convenient PC shop in Columbia/Laurel area.
Had work done a couple of places - Powder Coat Finishes in Balto (excellent work but looooong lead time) and East Coast Powder coat (who's website now appears to be gone, not suprised as I going to recommend not using their services), and another place just off Rt.1 and 32 (can't remember the name - good work but $$$).
I know of another guy in Beltsville doing a home business, but haven't had any work done there - yet.
Jeff

Posted by: degreeoff Jan 27 2008, 10:41 AM

Premier Powder Coating
(301) 772-3200
8521 Rainswood Dr, Hyattsville, MD 20785

He's about 2weeks out and charged me 200-250 for fan strap, fan, fan housing carbs linkage, V/C's, cam covers, 1 block off plate, aircleaner base/tops and manifold.
I saw some of his work on MC parts very neat and clean.

Posted by: amallagh Feb 7 2008, 08:34 PM

Just seen your thread for the first time. Wow !!
This is more like a religious cult then a car project.
The word perfectionist doesn't even come close.

Posted by: degreeoff Feb 7 2008, 08:43 PM

Thanks man, I believe I have being doing the best I can. I will say that there are flaws but few and far between IMHO. I have enjoyed the 6 engine so far as I do plan on a 911(73 RS look....drool) for my next project!! I have a sweet engine ready to be built for that one.

Posted by: crash914 Feb 7 2008, 09:29 PM

Hey Josh, I just picked up your old hood and trunk lid from a guy on the eastern shore...you need them back?

I will be digging into the car tomorrow to see what I have...

Posted by: degreeoff Feb 8 2008, 06:39 AM

Herb thats funny...I gave them away to him for a 'grass roots' racing deal.....Funny how they came full circle. Now you have the old flares, and lids from ole betsy...

Posted by: crash914 Feb 8 2008, 07:04 AM

I thought it was funny too...the car was pretty far gone. One of these days I would like to do a grassroots car...this one is just not it...

Posted by: degreeoff Feb 14 2008, 03:46 PM

OK so I wanted to wheel her out for a few body peices on pics....NOTICED some SERIOUS waves in the hood (fr) ...damn it all shows in natural light!!! (back to bondo!!)

Posted by: degreeoff Feb 14 2008, 03:48 PM

Oh forgot to mention....I just signed up for the April 12/13 DE @ summit point so pressure is ON BABY!!

Posted by: Racing916 Feb 20 2008, 08:07 PM

Excuse my language, but it looks fu*k#ng amazing

Posted by: degreeoff Feb 22 2008, 10:36 PM

Well after 3 fricken weeks!!! I should have my powder coated stuff back from the dude @ Premier....been polishing wheels (no fun BTW, pics to come after paint!) and sent off my GT door panel pulls and bits to Bob @ ABC (pics when they come in!).

My carb parts came in from Richard @ PMO. 36mm chokes (VS 38 that were in there) and 160 mains (VS 155) and F5 emulsion tubes (VS F26) all per his recomendations...SOOOooo it was time to tear em apart and rebuild.

WHO KNEW??? there were so many parts in an IDS carb.....Funny thing is after taking it ALL apart I understand how it works....Carbs look DAMN good after 40 years dont you think?

Posted by: degreeoff Feb 23 2008, 10:35 AM

Fk yeah!! now I can seal her up.....

Posted by: degreeoff Feb 23 2008, 05:51 PM

KIck it up a notch!

Posted by: crash914 Feb 23 2008, 07:40 PM

Get Er Done!!!!!

Posted by: degreeoff Feb 23 2008, 10:17 PM

Hey Herb,

I may require your assistance and any one else who may be able to help get this beast off the stand!....I am guessing 3 /4 people total.????Anyone local wanna plan for next weekend?

Posted by: LarryR Feb 23 2008, 10:36 PM

2 people for a flat six is plenty. I am guessing just from stand to floor jack ... just squat dont bend or you will be in for weeks at the chiropractor super sweet project.

Posted by: crash914 Feb 24 2008, 05:47 AM

I can do it anytime... even during the day could be ok..
I do have a new cell #. PM sent..

Posted by: plas76targa Feb 24 2008, 01:38 PM

I might be able to help. Kids B-ball is over now. Been reading this thread. I'll check here or pm me if next weekend. Herb, if the weather's dry I might bring the 914 .. I could pick you up. Gotta warn ya tho' - I don't have the heat hooked up.

Herb - you think the engine dolly I built might help?

Posted by: jaminM3 Feb 25 2008, 12:47 PM

At RRC '07 they were moving a 3.2 from the back of a truck to a van and they had 3 or 4 people trying to move it and they dropped it in the gravel. I would play it safe and have 4 people..

Posted by: jd74914 Feb 25 2008, 01:23 PM

Really? My dad and I picked up a complete 2.2 w/ MFI and walked it a ways to put it into our truck bed. If you are careful it should be fine.

Posted by: crash914 Feb 25 2008, 01:41 PM

The good thing is that it only has to go down...gravity should help with that...

I have moved a 4 cylinder by myself...another time my wife helped move one through a doorway over a curb...

Matt, sounds good. I would like to ride in a running 914...

Posted by: Rleog Feb 25 2008, 03:48 PM

I'm late catching up with this incredible thread.

Could you elaborate a little about your EZ wiring harness. I've got one hell of a rat's nest to sort out with mine.

Thanks

Posted by: degreeoff Feb 25 2008, 04:47 PM

And with ALL the $$ and time I have in this......well If you all wanna come over next weekend I could plan on a few steaks on the grill! Its a BYOB as I dont drink though. (doesnt bother me if you do.)

gratuitious (sp?) pics....

Posted by: degreeoff Feb 25 2008, 04:55 PM

To elaborate on the EZ wiring harness....it was CHEAP and it was all there and they (manufacturer) were very helpful but I am afraid that is all I can offer....I had to modify it a bit as it is designed for the hotrods (front engine). BUT if I did it right which as a non electrical guru I would say I have a 90% or better chance that it is goinna work. it was well woth it and it is CLEAN and all new (AKA no OWI old wire issues)

ALSO to be noted...I cannot imagine trying to do this new harness for a factory car with all the goodies that came stock....This has basic lights and wipers and gauges nothing more.

Posted by: rick 918-S Feb 25 2008, 09:39 PM

I'm doing the same thing in the Healey right now! I have the 12 curcuit and had to add one for the electric cooling fan. But it was cheap and it's new.

Nice project!

Posted by: degreeoff Mar 1 2008, 07:36 PM

Well as stated in another post...thanks guy's! (plas76targa and crash914)

here is an engine pic from before the install...she looks good! If not a little bright!

Posted by: crash914 Mar 1 2008, 08:39 PM

motor in place...just to get the pics in the correct thread...

Posted by: degreeoff Mar 3 2008, 01:43 PM

OK boring progress....brakes bled...1 leak @ the Jwest prop valve...lotta fluid in these bigger brakes with the 23mm MC, running cables oil lines shift rod...dull stuff but after a lil cutting and some muffler painting and polishing the tip...PERV! I have some goo shots...I mean good shots up er ass!

Posted by: crash914 Mar 3 2008, 02:04 PM

Looks good, you got a lot done...

Posted by: SirAndy Mar 3 2008, 02:44 PM

why does this picture remind me of christmas?


Andy

PS: looking good!

Posted by: degreeoff Mar 3 2008, 04:10 PM

Believe me Andy, that is a Xmas present long in the coming....hopefully short in the completion and short in issues?????

Posted by: degreeoff Mar 4 2008, 11:08 PM

OK so I am one tired SOB!!! It has been 3 days of nonstop nonsense! BUT the plus side is that for all intents and purposes I am done with the mechanical BS. Things left to do are add oil (anyone know how much??? add gas add battery (hope there are no zap zap EEeewwww what the hell is burnin?) add spark plugs and add the oil tank to case breather hose.......

Because I want to be sure of running state before I leave Thursday for a 10 day ski VACA and before I put BEAUtiful paint on.....

So tomorrow I shall...........

Source a oil hose.....install.........

Set timing and verify plug order on my new age fandangled HPX crankfire setup..............

Add battery...check for proper circut workings.........

Add oil and crank her over without spark plugs to build oil pressure........

Add gas and turn on the pump making sure the carbs are not spilling over and or leaking from a fuel line I forgot to tighten.....

Grab my handy dandy class SUPER DUPER fire extinguisher..........

Sit in car, say my prayers TWICE and flip the fuel pump switch, flip the ignition switch and turn her over ........

WISH ME LUCK!!!!! and for GODS sake if I am forgetting anything let me know!!!!!!!!!

And of course if she runs as well as I hope she does I will most likley spin her around the block!!!

Posted by: Phoenix 914-6GT Mar 4 2008, 11:12 PM

I love seeing your work come along. Looking forward to seeing it all finished.

Posted by: crash914 Mar 5 2008, 05:34 AM

WoW!!! no motor no seats on Saturday to this!!!!

rock on!!!

Posted by: degreeoff Mar 5 2008, 04:39 PM

Well no joy.....spent 3 hours looking for a damn tube for the breather, then 2 hours diagnosing issues with my 'one size fits all' wiring harness. Then oil pressure with no plugs in was not reading after 9 qts added, then fuel pump was putting out 8 PSI and gas leaked from one barrel and down the throat of another....turned the regulator down to 3.5 easy still need to pop the carbs off and check them again....BUT all this on another day!! I am outta town for a 10 day VACA....until next time.......PEACE!! BTW should oil pressure read spinning fast like that w/o plugs? Never could get the idiot light to work....hmmmm

Posted by: crash914 Mar 5 2008, 05:30 PM

I call shotgun for a ride when you get back!!

Posted by: degreeoff Mar 17 2008, 01:51 PM

IT LIVES!!!!!! After much work and sweat a couple cuts and much cussing as well as a few posts on the bird board and calls to Clewitt engineering and electromotive a singe $.20 part (1k ohm resister ) and she sputtered to life........

sounds good and smoked like a bitch (mainly from the cheezy exhaust paint from a evilbayer) no CRASH GRIND BANG!! (ok a couple out of the carbs.... ) no I am out to see if she will tune a bit (carb work)....


Wish me luck!!!

Josh the grateful!!!

Posted by: ChrisNPDrider Mar 17 2008, 03:29 PM

AWESOME
good luck with all that remains!

Posted by: brer Mar 17 2008, 04:16 PM

simply amazing.
When all the stock parts on my car wear out I'm going to do this.


can I ask what brand paint and the color of your primer?

Posted by: J P Stein Mar 17 2008, 05:36 PM

Yes!
Mine rumbled to life again a week ago Sunday.
Feels good, don't it.

Posted by: degreeoff Mar 17 2008, 05:44 PM

The color is POR137....and the primer is just grey all by Dupont (chroma base/ Nason clear. The only problem I am now having is my fuel pressure was dropping and I dont know why?? But I will figure it out. The pump is mounted high so I think it may be that but who knows? It could also be a fuel pickup problem as I had to dump 5 gallons in it to get it to start to draw.....BUT all in all it is looking good and I was able to put the car in all gears today and roll forward and back under power!!!!

Posted by: Twise Mar 17 2008, 06:00 PM

Real nice - got me thinking about my next project...????

Posted by: crash914 Mar 17 2008, 06:49 PM

congrats!!!

I just got back and missed your call.....now to kick mine in gear....

rolling under power sure puts a smile on your face doesn't it...

Posted by: gotxqss Mar 18 2008, 02:48 AM

AWESOME MAN!!!!!!!! Simply LLOOOVVVVEEE the color. Attention to detail is what its all about. wouldn't change much on a dream build!


hope someday I got the funds to make that happen

Posted by: degreeoff Mar 18 2008, 01:09 PM

Well now I gone an broke the law today with a quick drive down the block! aside from the tears all be it joy , surprise or the fact that there is no windshield....the world may never know! I'll say this once it gets on cam...... Now I have a few MORE issues....

seems to run pretty good although my fuel pressure is wacky after relocating the pump, so it may be a bad regulator or gauge??

also there seems a bit more popping through the carbs than I would like.....

also the first second reverse gears are way STIFF.....I had to make the rod so I think I may have screwed it up a bit as the bushings are all good...?

BUT on the flip side there are very minor weeps in the way of oil and no PUDDLES!!!!!

YOU TOO CAN REBUILD A 9elben engine.....

Josh

Posted by: degreeoff Mar 24 2008, 03:19 PM

linky linky me and pinky! And yes it is running RICH!! But my guy said I need to seat the rings and such before we can tune it properly....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orlHDVCBC1Q

Posted by: sendjonathanmail Mar 24 2008, 03:21 PM

Freakin awesome

Posted by: crash914 Mar 24 2008, 03:31 PM

Paint!!!! Paint!!!!

way to go...I was hoping to see donuts!!

Posted by: degreeoff Mar 24 2008, 08:10 PM

need LSD for that.......tailed it in 3d though while goin around that corner!

Posted by: roadster fan Mar 25 2008, 01:34 AM

I just read this whole thread again (I think my third time) and all I can say is................SWEEEEEEEET!

Can't wait to see the 73 RS you build, you have been an inspiration.

Keep the updates coming,

Jim

Posted by: Dr. Roger Mar 26 2008, 01:25 PM

Hey Josh,

Summer is almost here. Wuzup wit' yer ride???


Is the engine in yet?

Posted by: degreeoff Mar 26 2008, 05:39 PM

well the new toy came in today!! Hard as hell to get that thing off a trailer and set up weighing in at a measly 800lbs!! THIS is the $949 39"lift from Harbor freight.....I am ALL for american made but this thing works VERY well and is 1/3d the price....for a bunch of heavy steel. So being the CSOB that I am I went this route!

Posted by: crash914 Mar 26 2008, 05:40 PM

damn, I was at the laurel HF earlier today....could have helped...

Posted by: crash914 Mar 26 2008, 05:41 PM

looks like it would be easy to mount the rotisserie also...

Posted by: degreeoff Mar 26 2008, 05:44 PM

Its all good Herb, they forklifted it onto the car hauler trailer and I had em set it on the 4 1000lb ($9.99 each) mini dollies (which I will use for my alignments) and I basicly rolled it off the trailer and onto a jack and off a jack and on a jack until it was far enough off the trailer to use the built in doohickiemagigy(on the pump) for moving it around the floor (its semi portable that way)

Posted by: degreeoff Mar 26 2008, 05:46 PM

Yep good for that as I WILL build a RS (73ish) replica next .....welll in a couple years!

Posted by: degreeoff Mar 31 2008, 06:17 PM

well we be paintin....and striping and....what was I talking about????



(sorry the fumes are getting to me!) A few runs and a bit 'o' dust but 3 clear coats = wet sand + buff right out......

Posted by: crash914 Mar 31 2008, 07:11 PM

looking good....

I just bought some paint myself.....got to finish the body work......

Posted by: degreeoff Mar 31 2008, 07:17 PM

Hey Herb, maybe you could get it together in time for the autoX @ baysox stadium on 4/26....thats my NEW goal!!

Posted by: crash914 Apr 1 2008, 04:40 AM

tempting...but....

engine and trans yes, body most likely not...the re-assembly will be a bitch....

Posted by: sendjonathanmail Apr 1 2008, 02:13 PM

Hey, is that a white stripe? Looks great

Posted by: degreeoff Apr 1 2008, 03:06 PM

ahhhh yup!. Took it for a lil spin again today, after I buffed out the clear...not perfect but close enough for a garage job and racer....I can smell the end. All electrical gremlins addressed and all lights/wipers/etc etc is in good order so all thats left is the bolt on bits and install glass and GO BABY! Pulls like a beast as I hit 65 into 3d on a very short stretch of road! So far the cam seems to come on @ 2500 or so?

Posted by: crash914 Apr 1 2008, 04:47 PM

sweet!! bring it on by when you are out shaking it down....

Posted by: Zardozz Apr 4 2008, 05:49 PM

Took me almost an hour to read all of this and I have to say one of the best hours of my life. Most impressive...mostest impressive. I think I'm going to go work on my sticky door hardware now

Posted by: plas76targa Apr 4 2008, 07:25 PM

Josh - I did the autoX school and hope to go on 4/26. Then maybe drive up to Hershey to catch up with the gang where ever they are. Follow me up or visa versa!

Posted by: crash914 Apr 4 2008, 07:47 PM

Matt, did you try the tach yet?

motor is back together.. got to finish the paint....

Posted by: plas76targa Apr 5 2008, 08:42 AM

Herb, yer showin yer age.. it was a spedometer. I did get it hooked up before going to the autocross school. Works fine except with my 50 series tires it reads high by about 10%..

Posted by: crash914 Apr 5 2008, 08:48 AM

right on....tach speedo....whatever......I saw the transmission lifts on sale at harbor freight....Hmmmmm

back to topic...

PAINT!!!

Posted by: root Apr 5 2008, 10:50 AM

Matt,
Do you still need that speedo I have saved for you? Sounds like you got one somewhere else 'cause I lammed out and didn't send you this one I have?

Posted by: plas76targa Apr 5 2008, 06:30 PM

Rod you didn't "lamm out" on me. Herb just loaned that on to me.

Posted by: degreeoff Apr 5 2008, 10:16 PM

Hey Matt, sorry had to run out of town for a family affair up nawth....I will try, BUT I do not know how my beastie will be as it'll still not be broken in enough for that trip??? We shall see?

Posted by: degreeoff Apr 7 2008, 05:08 PM

OK so after yet another trip up nawth for a funneral (2nd to last bit 'o' blood relation on fathers side) I am back at it. Details Details Details !!! What has been done
-lights in and lenses in
-weather srtipping in
-windshield and rear window in
- painted the top (with stripe), top hold downs etc, doors (with # circles), head light covers and eyebrows, windshield wipers, wheels, valances, side enginge grill covers and side skirts WHEW!

ONLY 7 PIECES LEFT! ( the hoods, bumpers, valances and engine lid all of which need to be striped....jeez am I glad this is almost over! (Need more clear coat bringing the total paint volume up to 5 gallons{unmixed} or so including primer!)

Posted by: Phoenix 914-6GT Apr 7 2008, 06:03 PM

Can't wait to see it all together.

Posted by: degreeoff Apr 7 2008, 07:30 PM

neither can I...........

Posted by: degreeoff Apr 11 2008, 11:58 AM

Well I still need to wet sand and buff some of it, align it and tune it but....but......well HAPPY BDAY @ ME!!

Posted by: brer Apr 11 2008, 12:14 PM

Posted by: crash914 Apr 11 2008, 02:32 PM

now that's what i'm talking about!!!!!

congrats,

WELL DONE!!!!!!

Posted by: jd74914 Apr 11 2008, 02:40 PM

That looks awesome.

Posted by: jaminM3 Apr 11 2008, 02:52 PM

You are an inspiration!!!!!

Posted by: sendjonathanmail Apr 11 2008, 09:22 PM

Looks great! I think that a set of french taillights would look sweet

Posted by: plymouth37 Apr 20 2008, 07:40 PM

Wow nice job, I hope my car turnes out half as nice as yours!
I think you should send those clear lenses my way, where in the hell did you find those?

Posted by: Zaney May 2 2008, 06:12 PM

Delicious! I have seen the clear lenses in the new AA catalog.
WOW! Great job!!!

Posted by: degreeoff May 2 2008, 07:12 PM

Mine are from the guy who USED to make em WAY back....so far as I know the only known pair as of right now??? Bitch is you need all colored bulbs....

Posted by: degreeoff May 2 2008, 07:14 PM

BTW I just weighed my ride today with 1/2 tank and 14qts oil it was 1960 +(-) 20 lbs!!! pretty good with all REAL glass in the car.

Posted by: degreeoff Oct 14 2008, 09:13 PM

Well its been a while folks I realize.

The skinny and FAT! is this @ my last autoX the guru of track planning and TTOD was following me up toi the course for a breif time. Once there he informs me that the car is smoking and blowing blue smoke........well the weekend after this event I was scheduled to truck my ass a car trailer and my girl up to watkins glen for my first DE w/PCA.....so I ask am I going to be black flagged for this. He states that I may and said he'd keep an eye on my throughout the day to see if it got worse.

Well I am now running 245/50 R compond tires on the ride to wear em in a bit and on my first run I hear a healthy CLUNK and finish my pass. After coming to a stop I ask if he saw smoke or not and he said no......it looked good and so I am thinking GREAT! (it should be noted that before the day started I also had another guru of 911 land come up and check out the ride and he looked at my home tune on the crankfire unit and said I was retarded.....:-P way too much and recomended I up the initial a fair bit, car ran like a scat rat first pass BTW)

I also had not been able to get my rickity old (68) carbs to sync and run right (always rich or alway lean and no in between (many many jets later and a carb guru as well!)

Well back to the pit line I go and notice a wierd smell....like burning rubber? I think wtf? as I get in and take it out of gear to roll down the line I notice the car will not roll..........SO having had a simalar issue WAY back when I first did a rough alignment I thought maybe a tire had worked over a bit and started rubbing the fender. SURE NUFF! BAD too so bad I could not do a fix there and hitched a ride back to my house from Matt to get my van and trailer. I remember while doing my alignment at the shop we damn near run out of travel for toe in on the RR and also saw a bit of looseness in the inner ear hole so I am thinking that the arm is moving around in the inner ear hole and no amoount of tightening will fix it.

Well I am fed up! I have had enough and dumped a shitload of time and $$$ into her and was like SCREW this and parked it and spent the summer sailing (I didnt even look at the suspensuion until a week ago)


To summarize:

too much money and time in too short a period of time = unhappiness/fuck it/fatalism

in the meantime I was able to find just the right buyer for my IDS carbs to the tune of $2500 for just the carbs no linkage maniflds K&N etc so I sold em and got on the 3 month wait with PMO. They just came in after a 4 MONTH wait and a 2 week ups tour of the country, and now I just need to get the left side tall manifold that is 37/40 as opposed to the mismatch 37/46! and I should be able to crank her up again and either make the final DE @ Summit the last weekend of the month or do the Sterling suds and buds deal?

Oh did I mention I welded a litle bit of the hole on the ear only to realize that the outer mount had slipped due to SO MUCH FKIN sticky rubber?


Now if I can only rule out my theory of rings and cylinders that glazed over due to too much raw gas injected at first startup after rebuild....(damn crankfire issues) I will be in like flint!!!!

Wish me luck??!! and here is a little eye candy for the most expensive single car part buy of my LIFE!

Posted by: crash914 Oct 15 2008, 04:09 AM

dude, that is some sweet porn....

good luck, call if you need help....

Posted by: degreeoff Aug 20 2009, 04:36 PM

Well an update......
1st Doc evil will be helping me install the new carrier bearings and GT TB DIFF!!! yeah baby....see you monday dude!

also new 225lb coilovers for the rear
also a new IR alt (thanks Clay)
New spacers to keep em rears from rubbin the R6 245/50s....


heads are done, new DC40 cams here and the Cylinders are on their way to millenium for renikasiling to my Ross pistons specs....car is almost together and should be good for the ECC......

a pic for fun...

Posted by: J P Stein Aug 20 2009, 05:09 PM

My advice whether you want it or not.

Use Goetze rings
Use Brad Penn break in oil.
....oh, with new cams you need to have the old rocker arms re-surfaced....or get new ones.

No advice here, just a fact.. The only folks I know of that use Ross pistons are you & Motor Miester.....sorry, but true.

The Guard diff is killer, tho...... but real men install their own.


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Posted by: degreeoff Aug 20 2009, 06:43 PM

oops forgot to mention the rockers are on the way from EBS as are the Goetez rings......

My Shop guy...(Micheal Mount, Burtonsville machine shop) has spec'd them out (ross) and has givin a thumbs up.....

Posted by: degreeoff Aug 21 2009, 10:39 AM

BUT.......thank you JP for putting doubt in my mind as I now have JE's on the way......9.5:1....no goetz rings now though. JE has a proprietary size that ony comes with that piston set.....??

Posted by: J P Stein Aug 21 2009, 11:19 AM

Sorry....

IIRC....and you'd better check this, rings come in thickness & diameter.
The thicknesses are 2,2,3 or 2,2,4 ...the numbers being in millimeters. IIRC, (again)
the Goetze are 2,2, 4. Sixnotfour knows this fer sure. I don't know what rings JE supplies with their pistons.....but I suspect some Deves style.

Posted by: Dr Evil Aug 21 2009, 11:50 AM

Oh man, you should not have ordered JE pistons as you cant use Goetze rings with them. Damnit

Posted by: J P Stein Aug 21 2009, 01:48 PM

According to my guru you can order Goetze rings with your JE pistons. In fact he says Goetze rings are a must for Nikasil cyls. In the negative sense, I have a shot set of cyls to prove that.

Posted by: degreeoff Aug 21 2009, 03:08 PM

hey JP the rings are a very odd size (2.8mm oil rings) that can ONLY be used with the JE 90mm.....but they are designed for the Nikasil cylinders as per the website of JE.....

My machinist says he asks for pistons that are within .002" and thats what they send him.....He is also getting the cylinders done per those specs, I should be GTG......


LSD new top end ....this a thing will SCREAM!

Ya Doc, its a bummer but what are you going to do? This is the last $$ I am going to spend for a good while I think....I hope.....or I will sell it!

Posted by: brant Aug 21 2009, 03:24 PM

what kind of scale did you use for car weight that would be +/- 20lbs...?

I still hold the belief that scales set up for accuracy in a completely different weight range (ie: 15,000lb trucks) struggle to be very accurate with light cars outside of their operating range.

Posted by: ws91420 Aug 21 2009, 03:43 PM

Truck stop scales have a +/- 20 lb error margin and is what conforms to federal standards for weighing trucks.

Posted by: J P Stein Aug 21 2009, 05:21 PM

I have found that SCCA solo scales vary +/- 10 lbs. That is no big deal but when you set up, give yourself some room. It's better to be 10-20 lbs overweight per their scales rather than 2 lbs under(DSQ). You are weighed immediately after your last run of each day.

Posted by: brant Aug 21 2009, 05:54 PM

I hold a belief that scales calibrated to measure 10ton are not within their prime opperating range at 2000lbs... (not in their prime accuracy)
I know not everyone agree's with this though

Posted by: degreeoff Aug 21 2009, 08:00 PM

on the wieght bit it was at a landfill.......truck only scales wouldnt even get me I was too light....I am guessing that it was pretty close though as I am striped interior (minus some very light seats and dash as well as all FG with early doors)

Josh

Posted by: brp986s Aug 21 2009, 10:07 PM

You can get your pistons re-grooved to your specs. I agree with JP re: goetze rings. They are OE. I bought Deves rings once. I couldn't believe the amount of force it took to compress the oil scraper ring. I thought somehow I had done something wrong. I brought them to a Porsche engine builder who referred to them as "hone masters". That was 15 years ago. Maybe things have changed in the meantime. Goetze oil rings can be easily compressed with your fingers.

Posted by: brant Aug 21 2009, 10:22 PM

with window glass, heavy yoko's, the -6 lump, the steel front cross member and the banana muffler.... I would of guessed closer to 2150
those early doors with glass come in around 100lbs
and most 6's with actual turn signals and street attire come in around 2200-2300

good job