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914World.com _ 914World Garage _ I hate scams
Posted by: sendjonathanmail Jul 24 2007, 07:50 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1970-Porsche- 914_W0QQitemZ260143025807QQihZ016QQcategoryZ6430QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZVie
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It's great at taking pics from old auctions and using them as his own 
Posted by: Rob Ways Jul 24 2007, 08:02 PM
How can you tell he's a scammer and can you report him? It does seem suspicious that someone who racks up feedback selling albums suddenly is selling a 914-6 AND wants outside correspondence on email.
Scammers suck. 
Posted by: sendjonathanmail Jul 24 2007, 08:05 PM
That same /6 was for sale a few weeks ago on ebay, and the seller was asking alot more. Its also fishy that they ask to contact them outside of ebay, and ebay does warn against this!
Posted by: skline Jul 25 2007, 01:06 AM
And they only want $8k for it? It sure does sound fishy to me. 
Posted by: tdgray Jul 25 2007, 07:20 AM
hmmm location listed as Akron, Ohio... hmm that just so happens to be where I am from...hmm
Damn though if this picture sure does not look like any landscape of Akron I have ever seen. Mountains and tropical foliage... I think not.
If anyone is interested I can email them and ask to see the car in person.
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Posted by: mudfoot76 Jul 25 2007, 07:53 AM
If anyone is interested I can email them and ask to see the car in person.
For $hits and giggles, why not? And if the car is real, and he only wants 8k
Posted by: kconway Jul 25 2007, 08:02 AM
Hmmm, yep something very fishy I'd say. Looky here: http://adcache.collectorcartraderonline.com/10/2/4/89634024.htm
In Torrance, Ca. 7/21. with a phone number too!
Posted by: boxstr Jul 25 2007, 09:00 AM
bid the auction up to $125,000. then back out.
CCL
Posted by: boxstr Jul 25 2007, 09:00 AM
bid the auction up to $125,000. then back out.
CCL
Posted by: tdgray Jul 25 2007, 09:02 AM
I emailed the seller asking to see the car.
should be interesting
Posted by: BKLA Jul 25 2007, 09:09 AM
I emailed the seller asking to see the car.
should be interesting
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Posted by: sendjonathanmail Jul 25 2007, 09:19 AM
Group buy?
Posted by: George H. Jul 25 2007, 10:40 AM
sellers email response
Hello,
Thank you for inquiring for my car, that i have listed on eBay( 8.000$ with an $4,000 deposit).The shipping/handling fees will vary depending on your location and will be covered by the buyer.The car is in perfect condition and it has not even a scratch or damage, it has not been involved in a accident,clear title and it is a US registered car. The paint is in fantastic condition as in the trim grill, bumpers etc. The wheels are in "as new" condition with no abrasions and the tires are in excellent condition (10-15% usage).The interior of this vehicle has no tears, burns, nor worn spots on the seats or anywhere else, smoke free(I don't smoke).The car drives and looks brand new and has an accident free history.
If you are interested in buying the car please email me back asap...
Thanks,
Posted by: George H. Jul 25 2007, 10:41 AM
where do you apply for US registration? is it good for life 
Posted by: sendjonathanmail Jul 25 2007, 10:43 AM
Did he sign his name in the email?
Posted by: jhadler Jul 25 2007, 10:56 AM
Seems the auction has already been pulled. So long sir scamsalot...
-Josh2
Posted by: Dr Evil Jul 25 2007, 11:03 AM
As far as I know, if you put the word CASH as a form a payment in your ad they pull it. I dont know why, but I have heard this from many sellers after reposting their ads (all annoyed, of course). Still, sounds like a scam. I would have guessed that back drop to be CA, deserty with desert shrubs.
Posted by: George H. Jul 25 2007, 11:08 AM
did he put his name at the end?
no name
email addy: hsh yyaya <berylan212@yahoo.com>
Posted by: George H. Jul 25 2007, 12:01 PM
latest response to me telling him i would fly in with cash tomorrow
Thanks for your e-mail, I will not be able to meet anyone at this time, as my work requires a lot of travel in the country, this is why I choosed ebay to handle the transaction for us. Please let me know if I can make the arrangements with them and they will send you the transaction confirmation.
Regards!!!
Posted by: sendjonathanmail Jul 25 2007, 12:08 PM
Posted by: Brian Mifsud Jul 25 2007, 02:04 PM
He is currently corresponding with me, ignoring the question as far as where the car is.
I'd love to pull the "cashiers" check scam on HIM.
There was a priceless website years ago called "Scamming the Scammers" where a British guy managed to get $2K out of the Nigerian. It was a saga that went on for months.
Posted by: jhadler Jul 25 2007, 02:15 PM
He is currently corresponding with me, ignoring the question as far as where the car is.
Tell the "seller" you're willing to pay a bunch o' cash, but must inspect the car in person to do so. And I think pulling the cashier's check routine on him might be enough to flush him/her/it out.
-Josh2
Posted by: tdgray Jul 25 2007, 02:21 PM
Hmmm... wonder why he never emailed me back but he will correspond with you guys out of the state 
Posted by: mudfoot76 Jul 25 2007, 02:40 PM
Hmmm... wonder why he never emailed me back but he will correspond with you guys out of the state
Maybe if you tell him you are actually in Nigeria, but keep an Akron mailing address for purposes of exporting your millions of pounds of gold boullion, he'll reply to you
Posted by: levonfarra Jul 25 2007, 03:33 PM
It might be Legitimate. I spoke to the owner on the phone, told her I lived locally and she told me the car was in riverside and I could inspect it.
Posted by: sendjonathanmail Jul 25 2007, 03:35 PM
Riverside, OH?
Posted by: tdgray Jul 25 2007, 03:53 PM
riverside, OH?
No such aminal that I know of
Posted by: sendjonathanmail Jul 25 2007, 03:56 PM
you contacted the owner on the ebay listing? today?
riverside, OH?
No such aminal that I know of blink.gif
the reason I ask is because you said that the car was located in OH, and "levonfarra" said that it is in riverside.....
Posted by: kconway Jul 25 2007, 04:12 PM
you contacted the owner on the ebay listing? today?
riverside, OH?
No such aminal that I know of blink.gif
the reason I ask is because you said that the car was located in OH, and "levonfarra" said that it is in riverside.....
-JON
As I eluded to in my earlier post, this car is for sale here: http://adcache.collectorcartraderonline.co.../4/89634024.htm
The ad lists the car in Torrance, CA. but has a phone number listed that looks to be from Riverside, CA. At $29K, I'd say that ad was legit, perhaps overpriced but legit.
Kevin
Posted by: faux916 Jul 25 2007, 04:18 PM
you contacted the owner on the ebay listing? today?
riverside, OH?
No such aminal that I know of blink.gif
the reason I ask is because you said that the car was located in OH, and "levonfarra" said that it is in riverside.....
-JON
As I eluded to in my earlier post, this car is for sale here: http://adcache.collectorcartraderonline.co.../4/89634024.htm
The ad lists the car in Torrance, CA. but has a phone number listed that looks to be from Riverside, CA. At $29K, I'd say that ad was legit, perhaps overpriced but legit.
Kevin
I think the problem in question is in the ebay ad. Not the classified ad.
Posted by: sww914 Jul 25 2007, 05:09 PM
Earlier I read an ebay review on the subject of scams. It sees that all of the scams have a couple of things in common- some urgency as far as the buyer sending a deposit, usually western union, and they all look like they were written by somebody that grew up speaking a different language. Their language flaws are subtle but the ad just feels weird when you read it. Also, there's usually a mention of how busy the seller is, traveling for work, and usually they say that they're doing it for their spouse or that they must sell because of an ill spouse or a job transfer. Also, they offer lots of different guarantees, ebay buyer protection, paypal buyer protection, whatever.
So the common elements that I see are
1 Urgent need for deposit.
2 Strange form of english.
3 unnecessary mention of spouse or work troubles.
4 all kinds of guarantees
As usual, if it doesn't ring true, it's probably a scam.
Posted by: sendjonathanmail Jul 25 2007, 05:16 PM
5. stating "do not bid, or I will cancel your bid", contact them first
6. warning to not contact them through ebay, as it doesnt work for them, etc.
Posted by: George H. Jul 25 2007, 05:24 PM
Thanks for your e-mail. To start the transaction with ebay I will need your name and shipping address. Please provide those infos and ebay will contact you real soon.
Regards!!!
Posted by: George H. Jul 26 2007, 12:55 AM
edited
Posted by: SLITS Jul 26 2007, 07:45 AM
I may have been the one that ruined all youse guys fun .... I sent eBay a message with the auction number and the link to the classified ad. Seems eBay thought the same thing as I and others did ..... they jerked the jerk.
Posted by: George H. Jul 26 2007, 10:37 AM
he is still trying to get me to send him money to an account in Florida
i had posted the email, but i didn't want somebody clicking on his links and sighing on to eBay through him, giving him their account login
this email bantering has given me something to do in between reading the latest post on Howard 
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