Hey Guys,
If you haven't been on the forum lately.....
The WCR 2008 will be held in Seattle next year!
From the initial announcement a theme has already developed....
It rains alot, it's not SoCal, and it's "in the middle of nowhere."
I love it!! I can see the banner already:
" NARP , Not a Real Club , Now Meeting "In the Middle of Nowhere"
We all drive 914s, we're used to this kinda stuff!
We have so much to offer to this event, so many choices with so much variety, a mountain drive, a drive around the sound, ferry ride, seattle icons to visit, track or autocross event, on & on& on... the region is so diverse and our time is short.
I need some help putting the initial plan and timetable together.
Please try to attend one of the first meetings. Get your ideas in early, get involved, these meetings will be key to making this event a great success.
Let's meet at my house in Issaquah, (near Sammamish State Park)
10:00 AM Saturday 11/10/07 ( This Saturday)
and optional date for those that want to but can't make Saturday:
7:00 PM Tuesday 11/13/07 ( I'll supply the beer)
Please PM me & I'll give address & directions to my house.
My Cell # 425-681-5438
Curt
AKA "Greenie"
WOW!
PM sent
If youre doing it in the middle of nowhere WA, might be cool at leavenworth.
Pretty cool it's gonna be up here this year. Pretty much no excuse not to attend now!
I really want to be a part of helping, but I am on the sidelines until after 16th of Nov.
Anybody up for the Clearwater Casino as a venue??? Middle of Nowhere, close to great drives and Shopping... Bremerton Motorsports park is 30 min away....
Who will be in charge of lodging?? Might I suggest that after picking a hotel as the ground zero, it is the responsibility of those attending to make there own reservation.
That way they only have themselves to blame if they are overcharged or do not get a room or whatever.
But after the WCC here in PDX, they one thing to get out of the way early is the lodging.
CCL
I'm gonna shoot for Tuesday evening. I sent you a PM. Rich, you gonna show up? Craig, what about you? I might not have anything but an empty stomach to contribute, but hey, it's something.
Curt,
I would love to help with the planning committee but you guys are in the middle of Freakin' Nowhere...
I hear it rains soooooooooooooo much in Seattle that everyone has permanent foot fungus... AND it is in the MIDDLE OF FREAKIN' NOWHERE!!!
Actually, the event should have quite a turn out... All we have to do is misspell a couple of words so people think we are having the G8 Summit. Course the ass whoopin' from the Seattle PD will be a bit of a downer.
Seriously guys, start planning for Seattle. They have a Starbucks there. The first one, actually.
Weather in the middle of nowhere.
http://www.cityrating.com/cityweather.asp?city=Seattle
Hey Dan and Rich, If you guys are going on Tuesday I think I could make it Tuesday night. Let me know.
The weather and drives up here during the summer are generally good. I love the NW roads. The past few years have been rather warm too
good Luck guys I love your area and am looking forward to it
Bernie
Im so excited!!! i went to portland with a close to dying motor for wcc 06 and it was tons of fun.( I was in the yellow smoker) Didnt get to go this year because i was in the middle of my motor swap, but now i got a freshened up 2.0 and new tires , plus i already tested it out by going to seattle this summer. So im good to go. Good luck guys Im sure what ever you come up with will be good.
what are the preliminary dates we are looking at for this?
I hope to be back from deployment by then and still have time for some finishing touches to do before I can take baby out to play.
I will try to make Tuesday as well. Some ideas
Kartenspeil run (poker)
Port Townsend run
Levenworth
La Conner
Bremmerton Auto x for the club?
Tulalip is putting in a Hotel up here. I like Clearwater, but I think they just got promoted to a 5 star hotel ( new years is 300 a night two night minimum) and may be a bit pricy. On the other hand, a hotel south would provide easier access to downtown.
I really like the idea of getting as many people as possible on a Ferry and getting a picture. Edmonds ferry seems like the logical choice.
I'll try to make the Tuesday meeting.
And they have a really big needle.
Tues!
I told Tim Kornacki about this. He cordinates all the PCA AXs, and he designs great courses. He also has a 914. I hope he will be able to show, but if not we can always talk to him as he is a good friend. He works at a shop in the Greenwood area... Right down from John Walker.
For those who show up, you can be the first to take a look at the steel roof 914. Michelle and I plan on being there Tuesday around 7PM. Is there gonna be food, or should I eat before hand?
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Great! It should be interesting seeing the steel top in the pitchblack evening in Issaquah.
I'll bring the spot light...
So, it sounds like Tues is the meeting time. Is anyone meeting on Sat?
Dave
I can't as I have to work.
Sorry,
Saturday is family day for me ...
With my son ...
At the track ...
What could be better! A family bonding day ... at the track!
It's the Alfa Club Basic Driving Skills track day. It will be my son's first time behind the wheel at the track.
Question: What car should he drive?
His daily driver - 1986 Audi 4000CS (four door 4 cylinder five speed)
My daily driver - 1988 BMW M5 (four door 6 cylinder five speed)
The Teener!
Eddie
I say his car, he'll have enough on his mind without any other changes.
This WCR may be one of the more important events you ever attend! It is close to Canada and we will eventually be at war with Canada! This is a chance to gather intel on those sneaky snowmen and women!
Seriously folks... If you have the time and the dime, plan your trip to Seattle... If you don't like the idea of a WCR be sure you don't bring protest signs cause the SPD will beat your ass like a bad bongo!!!
If we can co encide with the Mariners being out of town, my sister is a manager at Pyramid Brewery in Downtown Seattle.
I might be able to get some deeeeeeep discounts on kegs too... including Thomas Kemper sodas for the non beer types.
Troy, Rich, Jon... Any of you guys near me going to the Issaquah meeting and have an empty seat to carpool?
I can't believe the Canucks are going to let that declaration of war go...
Seattle is coming. Natural beauty abounds. And the 914's are coming!!!
Well if there is intrest in a tour through Port Townsend, A stop at a shop full of "different" cars ( Cosworth Lotus, Noble, Ultima CanAm, Pinto ) and some VERY scenic backroad touring I can lend a hand as I will have some time. Larry
Seattle is not in the middle of nowhere!
It's on the freakin' EDGE of nowhere.....we can't even see the middle from where we are. And the weather; don't get me started. Actually, everyone from outside the state will be sworn to secrecy about how nice summer is up here. I'm in for the Tuesday meeting.
Chuckanut Drive would make a great tour.
Rand, No problem. Tues PM me your #
I hope to have my teener running by then, regardless I would be happy to help in any way. Keep me posted. Alternate email: daveyboy@seanet.com/ ...daveyboy
Sequim? Why not Port Orchard or Port Townsend? Sequim has one of the highest levels of rainfall in the entire state. It is a beautiful area though.... About 30 minutes from the rain forrest and all.
Yes, We do have an actual rain forrest that records the highest level of rainfall each year. One of the reasons people think it rains here all the time. Seattle isn't even close to the rain forrest though, and the average rainfall in Seattle isn't very high at all.
I think the name and logo should be changed to"
Seattle 2008 WCR
On The Soggy Edge Of Nowhere!
rand is correct. sequim is considered to be in the sunbelt of western wa. you're just a tad late on retiring there jim. appearently lots of folks from 'other' places have had the same idea. very productive planning meeting today.
k
so then everybody in attendance gets a free 737? I LOVE Kent at that time of the year!
In the absence of data I will interject my own reality!
I am looking forward to the announcements!
Hi Guys,
Just a little update on the first of two "Initial Planning Meetings"
I think Rhody Guy is a little premature on the "all figured out" statement.
We had Bill, Dave Hunt & Kevin in attendance today.
Some idea's kicked around...
We want a nice Seattle flavor to the event ,
Is a Serial Killer theme in poor taste? Rhody guy thought that Ted Bundy tried to lure girls into his 72 914 , i thought it was a bug? Maybe a tour of the Green River & if time permits a trip up to BC for a visit to the pig farm. Poor taste ?, I'm up in the air on this.
Another idea to appease So Cal 914 was to have the event in late July when the rain is at least warm. Any thoughts?
Bill thought maybe a nice drive around that mountain named after the beer would be fun?
We also wanted to make sure that the Orygun fellow that thought we were in the
" middle of nowhere" knows that we harbor no ill will.
We tried to create a little "Sites of Interest " guide for the folks driving through Orygun to Seattle.
We couldn't think of any although Dave said there is a really nice rest stop south of Eugene, and a lot of cows to see...
If Tuesdays meeting is half as productive as todays we are well on our way to a nice event
Greenie
Appears that you guys are on your way to nowhere, lol oh I forgot , your already there lol
I m sure that it will be a great event and I can hardly wait, I need a reason to drive my Miata up north.
CCLZOOMZOOM
Perhaps a bumper sticker for the event.
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Let me know if you would like SchipperDesign (my wife's design firm) to come up with a logo to the meet in 2008. (They did the logo for 2007.) They can get you pricing for shirts, decals, etc. No cost for any of the design work.
Ken Schipper
Less rain in September than May! I cant wait to hear what is being bantered around! We can rent Pacific Raceways for a mere 14k for the day...
You guys! Time to get excited about Seattle WCR 2008!
Well.... Almost time. But do think about it.
I would like to see the event held whenever is best for all concerned. Greenie you get to make that call, it is your event, and you will never please everyone, so don't even try, it will drive you nuts.
Just not fathers dayLOL
CCL
Something during the summer school break would be great! Maybe all of the socal/zoni/desert peeps could put all of their cars on a carrier and meet them up here.
Maybe Tuesday night with so many showing up we can shore up a date? Post something on the site to let folks know. Earlier the better for planning.
Chris,
I'll bring a 3pin for you on Tuesday. You showing up?
Cool! Thanks Dan, It all depends if I am coming from Downtown or from Everett as to when I show up.
Date? I am pushing for June or July so its still warm at night....In August it can be cool even after a warm day....Its rare to have a 85F day that stays warm in the evening like in June or July.
Mo'better to be warm standing around in a Hotel parking lot BS'ing like the Portland event...which was really nice with all that beer on tap.
WCR 2008 WAHOO!
How about a track day / AX at Pacific Raceway? Maybe coordinated with the porsche club or Bimmer club? Talk with Speedware, I'll bet that they will help with planning it (or even sponsor it!) if they can get enough cars. A DE day would be fun!
If you never been there, the back side of the racetrack is pretty cool!
One big issue to consider is school. Some of us have kids who start school in late August. I am sure you guys are considering that though...
Should be fun though...
Id agree that some lapping a PR would be a coup and I'd encourage some brainstorming on how we could pull it off (piggyback with another local club ?) Im skeptical we could raise the track lease fee on our own.
Unless there is a member with some deep pockets out there feeling magnanimous?
BTW that track image makes PR look a lot more polished than it is. Dont get me wrong I love my home track but its really kinda ...rustic.
Interesting, I have two sisters and a mother that defected to Gig Harbor years ago. I am thinking a group drive up from here in SoCal could be cool. I remember driving through Shasta, just before dropping into Oregon was the closest I have ever come to a religious experience. Any one interseted in planning an invasion? One thing is for certain - I have got to show my car off - I have been waiting for years to show my car off....
Anyone interested in planninig a joint venture - email me. We could totally wuss out and trailer our rides up there. 914's are just no damn good for family outings...
Alapping day at Pacific Raceway could well be set up with another local club who has their cars serviced at my shop. This would greatly reduce the cost. If we can have corner workers this will add to the good will. The timing of the event will have to match the 2008 schedule being developed. Iam hoping to attend Tuesday, however Iam in the process of a seperation and may be in So.Cal. for a interview at a race shop. Larry
This sounds like it is working into a pretty good event. I'll probably drive up along the coast. It's cooler and lots lots more fun than I 5.
Cheers, Elliot
the illustration of Pacific Raceways International (locals still refer to it as SIR) is of the propsed new config and ugrading of the facilities. what is hard to grasp in the illustration is the elevation change that occurs at the #12. prob 500 ft or so ending in the hard right hander. charge into it and you're going to be in a world of hurt. not for the faint of heart and you're going to want a cage and a Hans device if something goes wrong. a very experienced driver wadded up his race built rx7 this past summer in this area. almost killed him. perhaps we could some how include a couple of "parade" laps, much like laguna in 05', on the sat cruise. PRI is a very busy track.
k
Any North enders wanting to car pool to tonights meeting? I am thinking if I find one I am going to take my 914, but if there are a few of you we can take my BMW or someone elses car. Let me know.
Jon
My comments were not intended to Bash PR but to set a realistic expactaion level for those who have never been there. Heck we are a LONG ways from evan really considering it so ......
Diff subj. Q: didnt someone write a somewhat professional 1st party account of participation in a past WCC (WCR)? Some thing that could be used to market and present to potential sponsers?
Maybe thats what Im thingking of. I should have that issue.
Yeah, it was well written especially for a Dutch guy who can barely speak English decently.....
Sorry guys, got bogged down at work with an emergency upgrade.
It was a good productive meeting with lots of good ideas tossed around.
Drive to Leavenworth...
Drive to Mt Rainier....
Drive to twisty roads somewhere.....
We ever talked about dates!
Any Track Talk ?
and thats why I keep my heat exchangers.....I drive sometimes in the cold up here. Look for a set of 914/6 HE's to install!
yep, lots of talk about a billion ideas.
Jeff, come to the 2008 WCR forum to discuss.
I went on a Tour with the PNW PCA to Leavenworth using the back roads. It was alot of fun. Also when we got to Leavenworth we all parked at the High School, that has alot of parking space and it is only a couple block from down Town.
Phillip J. Haun
Oak Harbor, WA.
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I looked on the map and the back road to Leavenworth was called Deadman Hill Road.
Phillip J. Haun
Oak Harbor, Wa.
Dates: How about having it during the longest day(s) aka Summer Solstice. Easy to remember...
That is the coolest part. Driving at 9:30-10pm and just starting to think about putting on the lights. But, it gives new meaning to "be home by dark".
How many teeners will be interested in "track time"?
AutoX?
Lapping?
Track Choices:
Pacific Raceways, Kent, WA - Beautiful natural road course - it is probably going to cost at least $200 per driver
Bremerton Raceway, Bremerton, WA - Airport road course and/or AutoX (runways and cones) - could be as inexpensive as $65 per driver.
I believe the best option is to "piggyback" with a group that has scheduled track days.
Club Events Choices:
IRDC - International Race Drivers Club (the track event co-ordinator is a long time 914er) - no club membership required for lapping days (generally lapping days are only in the spring and in the fall (generally no summer lapping days (jsut sanctioned races) - I have a call into the organizers to inquire about the possibility of a summer '08 lapping event)
NWARC - Northwest Alfa Romeo Club - no club membership required - Instructors provided for novice drivers - lots of events through the summer at both PR and BR
BSCC - Bremerton Sports Car Car Club - they sponsor many Autox events and 3-4 open lapping days every year at BR - no club membership required - usually less than $100 for BR lapping days
PCA - Autox's at Bremerton and lapping days at PR - $$$ at PR and crowded at Bremerton for the AutoX events. PCA membership usually required
I'll let you know if I find out any more.
Eddie
I know I am a local, but I would pay $200 for PRI. I think that would be more fun than any of the other stuff, and it would be much better time spent.
$200 would be out of the question for me.
I would cover you Mark. After everything you did for the club last year I wouldn't mind. You'd just have to buy me a beer
$200 seems to be the going rate for track time these days around here. Money is of course relative. I would and will pay it if things work out.
Lets not get ahead of ourselves
Our goal should be to work something out that "track fees"
would be reasonable enough that everyone who attends
would feel compelled to test out what these little cars are all about.
I still think that may be possible.
We'll see. stay tuned
I would love to see that little cream sickle out on the track
I would like to play "tag" with it!
i would will be shooting to attend this coming year...
2970 miles one way for me.....
but with family and friends in the area, along with the teener crew i met the last time i was in town, i am going to have to pencil this one in.
will be driving the rental car but will do all i can to make it once we have dates.
cheers!
Ok.. so perhaps we should shart a list of folks whos "intent" is tp participate?
Id start with the NW group as a default
We need some #'s. 30 cars? 40, 50?
i think people are going to need the dates before they can determine their intent. the wife and i are planning a trip for the summer. other family members have to tailor their vacation scheduling around us.
I will be there whenever it is.
I plan to be there but would be nice to figure the dates. Alot easier to plan vacation time for everyone once a date is set. I am close enough that isn't critical. For those who have a bit of a drive it will help
I plan on going unless the dates conflict with a vacation in the works too....
Last I heard we were waiting to hear if we could piggyback with another group at SIR (the only way we can afford to get track time at an international raceway). If we can indeed get on the schedule at Pacific Raceways, that's a huge feature and will determine the date. If we cannot, then we need to just give up on the track day and nail down a date that makes the most sense with everything else going on. Either way, it is becoming painfully clear that we need to nail down a date ASAP so people can plan.
Dates are critical.IE: I have to reserve vac time first week of Jan to guaranty the time off request.
I will be there, when is it??
CCL
count me in
Bernbomb914
I'm with Jim need date's so I can plan vacation time and hope it doesn't fall on any other time with family outing's in the summer. But I'm in for a week ,, want to see some site's.never been out of Cal. But more than a couple time's. John
This is going to be worth at least a full week up there.
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Hmmm ....teaser
http://www.feies.com/pics/2005/0611GoodmanRacing/index.html
Banquet?
Just waiting on a date. Gonna try and combine the trip up there with a vacation with the family.
I am in for sure if a date is picked by mid January.
Jim
MtRainier
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Summer 08?? Summer begins June 21 and ends September 22??
Nice banquet, wheres the food??
CCL
Mr. BOXSTR,
Please keep your pant's on and try not to step in the cowshit...
We are still trying to provide some points of interest in Orygun but this is proving very difficult....
Greenie
Anyone heard from Roger lately?
Hi, Rich.
I've been following the planning thread. What can I say.. totally awesome ideas! I'm available to do leg-work and such during the day, since I work the evening shift.
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