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Posted by: ! Jan 1 2004, 05:43 PM

updates as they come up.

Posted by: Brad Roberts Jan 1 2004, 05:46 PM

Nice tub.

Glad to see you figured out how to create one LARGE image and post it.


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Posted by: ! Jan 1 2004, 05:54 PM

Not hard.....

The tub seems to be VERY low miles that just sat out in the weather. Gonna do the Saturn Yellow original color from 73. Fill in the side markers, lose the vinyl on the sail panels and top, fill the dealer imposed antenna hole and windshield squirter holes.....goona leave the front fenders seperators as they ALWAYS crack no matter HOW they are filled or welded.

As soon as SOMEONE sends me some adjustable perches and springs the ass will come down and the alignment shop will give me some negative caster while bring the front end down to match. Have to do some notching up front for the Carrera struts to get rid of the + caster.......

Posted by: Brad Roberts Jan 1 2004, 05:58 PM

That would be NEGATIVE camber DUMASS...LOL

Caster only effects turn in.


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Posted by: ! Jan 1 2004, 06:02 PM

Fat fingers.....where are my perches weasel dick......

Posted by: Brad Roberts Jan 1 2004, 06:11 PM

Everyone (accept me and you) took two weeks OFF. Nobody could get me pricing or parts until Monday.

Sucky.. but what can I do I'm sure GPR has them on the shelf..LOL


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Posted by: ! Jan 1 2004, 06:55 PM

HE bailed too.....

Posted by: seanery Jan 1 2004, 07:07 PM

how come dave's not a member?
should we invite him?

Posted by: LS6/914 Jan 1 2004, 08:28 PM

RS/SS languishing in the background?

Posted by: ! Jan 1 2004, 08:32 PM

Yeah that's the paint shop owners kid's SS.....67 I think. Has more rust than Blondie does.....four on the floor and a big block. The owner also has a white 51 vette with red leather interior.

Posted by: seanery Jan 1 2004, 09:23 PM

61 vette?
51 would be rarer than rare!

Posted by: Brad Roberts Jan 1 2004, 09:28 PM

I have spoken to Dave. He knows we exist and offered to hold an event at his place. I plan to inlude him in the WCC.. if we can get it off the ground.


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Posted by: Eddie Williams Jan 2 2004, 12:01 AM

A club discount would rule. Whats the prevailing attitude on their upper strut mounts?

Posted by: redshift Jan 2 2004, 01:02 AM

My brother has a 67 Camaro with 560+ wheel hp, with Tri-power.

Ouch.


M

Posted by: Brad Roberts Jan 2 2004, 01:16 AM

I personally dont like their upper strut mounts.. but it is because I use the real deal. Smart Camber has a screw in one that is 100% heim joint. My dislike is simple: why install plastic when a bearing assembly will work better ??

B

Posted by: Eddie Williams Jan 2 2004, 01:34 AM

I understand, but what about a street car? Wouldn't the ride with Smart Camber be a little harsh?

Posted by: seanery Jan 2 2004, 07:32 AM

Eddie, I think (no experience on this one) that it would feel more precise, but not necessarily more harsh.

Posted by: rhodyguy Jan 2 2004, 09:56 AM

how does one create one LARGE image to post? would the 30 second load limit prevent dial-up users from doing this? i tried a short video when i got my 73 running, i was zipping up and down the street, but no go.

kevin

Posted by: Brad Roberts Jan 2 2004, 12:37 PM

Eddie, those upper mounts have nothing to do with the way your car rides. A bearing allows the car to turn with no bind. If you use plastic or rubber.. the shock shaft tends to turn in the shock and top tries to stay put. All the bearing does is give the shock a solid foundation to function from. When you hit a bump with a rubber mount... the shock pushes on the rubber mount and deflects it up prior to the shock actually doing its job. If you go solid/bearing the shock imediately starts working when you hit a bump.

I could take you for a ride in a roller bearing'd solid upper mounts car with Koni's set on soft and you would think we where in a stock 71 1.7 on 165 tires. All this race type stuff you hear us talking about make the car ride better than ever.


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Posted by: Eddie Williams Jan 2 2004, 12:48 PM

Makes sense, I'm also trying to learn all this suspension stuff. I assumed that the rubber bushings also absorbed some of the road vibrations, etc. By using ball bearings the shock and spring are doing all of the work, like they should be. I'm trying to build a decent daily driver, I was thinking the bushings would be a good compromise, better than the deteriorating rubber in the car now, but not as "racey" (or expensive) as the bearing setups.

Posted by: Brad Roberts Jan 2 2004, 12:54 PM

Save the money and look for a used pair of stock 911 uppers that are not worn out (from a 88 Carrera or something). Your thoughts are correct.. you dont need the upper bearing pieces. Honestly.. I have installed quite few of the upper bearings into stock plates and the stock rubber doesnt seem to be wearing out.

Kevin,

You probably wont be able to upload a pic that size from dialup. If you want to email it to me or another admin we can put it on the server for you and you can link to it.


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Posted by: Aaron Cox Jan 2 2004, 12:57 PM

Hey B, are the tarret monoball strut mounts anygood?

Posted by: Brad Roberts Jan 2 2004, 01:03 PM

They are very good. Only small issue is the upper bearing he uses is quite large. The bearing size itself limits the amount of neg. camber you can get before the portion of the mount that holds the bearing hits the tub. They are a work of art and basically number 2 on the market in my book.

Number 1 and the most expensive are the WEVO uppers. They are very thin and very light stainless cast pieces with a tiny tiny upper bearing that allows a TON of neg. camber before it hits the tub. It essentially requires NO hacking of the tub to get the neg. that some of these new race tires require.


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Posted by: rhodyguy Jan 2 2004, 01:11 PM

that's ok brad. i was just hoping avoid taking up the whole screen to post a picture.

kevin

Posted by: campbellcj Jan 2 2004, 01:19 PM

Z - I have some extra Bilstein lower perches here if you need 'em. No springs or top hats though.

I will have some threaded collars and hats available soon. I ordered some "better" versions from Coleman. They are for 2.5x10" coilovers.

Posted by: ! Jan 2 2004, 01:21 PM

Will they fit on Konis? That's what's under Blondie right now....

Posted by: campbellcj Jan 2 2004, 01:36 PM

I dunno if the diameter is the same. I have the yellow Bilsteins. I think Mueller posted some shock tube measurements a while back?

Posted by: Eric_Shea Jan 2 2004, 05:53 PM

Z... don't feel bad. He hasn't shipped my parts either




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Posted by: ArtechnikA Jan 3 2004, 08:20 AM

can we get a link to those, please ?

i need to replace all the 911's suspension parts and need to start making my wish list of whose parts go where...

(i hope to keep the A-arms but i don't recall them having antiroll bar U-tabs so they might go too...)