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Posted by: Phoenix 914-6GT Jan 21 2008, 11:33 PM
So I am just curious about doing a start button or switch. So if you turn the key to on and have a switch or something. I don't know, just seems more racecar...ish. Does the sound queer or cool? I'm undecided. andy thoughts?
Posted by: r_towle Jan 21 2008, 11:37 PM
It should be a single action push button switch.
Mine is 50 amps, but that is a temp switch for testing.
I am not sure, but 30 amps might be enough...
Rich
Posted by: LS6/914 Jan 21 2008, 11:39 PM
Its cool. I have a couple Noble in the shop that use a starter button. It can be a simple wire in for the teener. You can even wirre it through a remote to trigger a no start alarm. Larry
Posted by: Phoenix 914-6GT Jan 21 2008, 11:43 PM
Its cool. I have a couple Noble in the shop that use a starter button. It can be a simple wire in for the teener. You can even wirre it through a remote to trigger a no start alarm. Larry
Maybe you could help me with it
Posted by: plymouth37 Jan 21 2008, 11:55 PM
I have a shifter mounted Honda S2000 starter button, I have also eliminated the conventional key and wired in a digital remote key http://www.cyclesolutions.net/index.php?option=com_store&manufacturer=1&item=DGD-1M. When I get within ten feet of the car it arms the ignition switch (just a simple rocker), when the ignition is switched on the starter button is engaged, as a safety precaution the starter button will only trigger the starter if the E-brake is on.
The system gives me a fun race car feel with the security of a digital key.
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Posted by: LS6/914 Jan 21 2008, 11:58 PM
Not a problem, my schedule is. I can be reached at 360 265 1311 when Iam not slinging profanity at a Lotus (LotsOfTroubleUsuallySerious) Larry 
Posted by: Phoenix 914-6GT Jan 22 2008, 12:01 AM
Cool. I will give you a call tomorrow to see when we could sert something up. I am thinking sometime next month, March, would be cool to do this if you're up for it.
Posted by: LS6/914 Jan 22 2008, 12:14 AM
Not a problem, Iam out of town until end of next week. Larry
Posted by: McMark Jan 22 2008, 12:43 AM
I think... 
Here's my thought process:
If you have to insert a key and turn it, why add an extra step of pushing a button rather than just turning the key a little farther. It's just making more 'work'.
Now, if you have a power switch and a starter button, that's racecar. 
Posted by: Rand Jan 22 2008, 12:44 AM
When my ignition switch cracked, I eliminated the stock switch and wired up a toggle switch for ignition/fuel pump, and a hidden push button for start. I love being keyless. Also, the location for my start button has been handy sometimes for just turning over the motor (ignition off).
Posted by: Rand Jan 22 2008, 12:50 AM
Also, one of my clients manufactures some killer switches that might be worth looking at. (He's local btw.)
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Posted by: Phoenix 914-6GT Jan 22 2008, 12:53 AM
Yes sir I would like one of those. Okay, so when I do this what do I do to the column?
Posted by: BiG bOgGs Jan 22 2008, 06:09 AM
When I installed a custom dash in my Suzuki Samurai, I replaced my starter with a covered switch and a momentary switch for the starter. I have gotten so used to not having keys out while I am in a car I left my keys in the 914 5 times in the first week I drove it regularly. I have added this mod to my 914 to do list. You will love it.
Another security measure I have heard of is to use a toggle switch reroute the wiring for the horn button so that when you push on the momentary toggle switch you hit your horn button and start the car. The when the toggle switch is released, the horn button works normally.
Jim
Posted by: jgara962 Jan 22 2008, 11:03 AM
I added a start button a couple of years ago. I picked up a black one at my local FLAPS. Despite some people (McMark ) thinking it's extra work to take your hand off the key and push a button, I like it for the coolness factor and it does at a touch of race car.
Posted by: swl Jan 22 2008, 11:31 AM
Another security measure I have heard of is to use a toggle switch reroute the wiring for the horn button so that when you push on the momentary toggle switch you hit your horn button and start the car. The when the toggle switch is released, the horn button works normally.
Now thats some serious security by obscurity!!! Combine that with the handbrake idea and you could also prevent DUI. Gotta have a clear mind just to remember how to start the thing!
Posted by: sean_v8_914 Jan 22 2008, 11:45 AM
adjacent to the steering column where the light sw and flasher sw is there is also a blank hole in that same line of switches. it is covered in fine German basket weave. if you push there with your finger you will feel the hole under the vinyl covering.
Posted by: ClayPerrine Jan 22 2008, 12:17 PM
Another security measure I have heard of is to use a toggle switch reroute the wiring for the horn button so that when you push on the momentary toggle switch you hit your horn button and start the car. The when the toggle switch is released, the horn button works normally.
Now thats some serious security by obscurity!!! Combine that with the handbrake idea and you could also prevent DUI. Gotta have a clear mind just to remember how to start the thing!
I just had this mental image of a drunken 914 owner sitting in his 914 with the key on honking the hell out of the horn and muttering something like "goddam car won't start".
Do you think the cops would take him in for a DUI or take him to the looney bin????
Posted by: SirAndy Jan 22 2008, 12:45 PM
andy thoughts?
yeah, every once in a while ...
Posted by: Cap'n Krusty Jan 22 2008, 12:51 PM
Right. Adding complication is always good ................................ The Cap'n
Posted by: Rand Jan 22 2008, 01:02 PM
Mine's a hell of a lot simpler than the stock tumbler/switch was! And the plastic housing won't be cracking again. 
Posted by: Cap'n Krusty Jan 22 2008, 01:10 PM
Lemme see ................ Nope, more complicated. The switch lasts what, 15-20 years? Or more? And costs about 20 bucks? And takes 20 minutes to change?
I don't see the savings, overall. The Cap'n
Posted by: Rand Jan 22 2008, 01:14 PM
Cheer's Cap'n.
Wish you would come to the WCR! How about it?
Posted by: spunone Jan 22 2008, 01:50 PM
What we need is a how to write up for those that might want 
Posted by: jgara962 Jan 22 2008, 02:22 PM
What we need is a how to write up for those that might want
I think there is one if you do a search. Someone posted a schematic on how to hook it up because that's what I used.
Posted by: degreeoff Jan 22 2008, 04:41 PM
Mine has a 3 way antitheft with a I am a dunce switch for non literate MF's, Detachable steering wheel, Battery cutoff , fuel pump toggle and a ignition toggle all that and a key only to activate the starter....lol
Posted by: degreeoff Jan 22 2008, 04:44 PM
What we need is a how to write up for those that might want
I think there is one if you do a search. Someone posted a schematic on how to hook it up because that's what I used.
I reccomend reading the wiring schematic in the haynes...all you need in the way of wiring is on one curved steering colum plug...at least it was on my 72.
Posted by: swl Jan 22 2008, 06:16 PM
Another security measure I have heard of is to use a toggle switch reroute the wiring for the horn button so that when you push on the momentary toggle switch you hit your horn button and start the car. The when the toggle switch is released, the horn button works normally.
Now thats some serious security by obscurity!!! Combine that with the handbrake idea and you could also prevent DUI. Gotta have a clear mind just to remember how to start the thing!
I just had this mental image of a drunken 914 owner sitting in his 914 with the key on honking the hell out of the horn and muttering something like "goddam car won't start".
Do you think the cops would take him in for a DUI or take him to the looney bin????
dunno where they would take him but I bet the first call he'd make when he got out would be to the Cap'n - to ask him to install the old key switch!
Posted by: Sleepin Jan 23 2008, 12:55 AM
I have a shifter mounted Honda S2000 starter button, I have also eliminated the conventional key and wired in a digital remote key http://www.cyclesolutions.net/index.php?option=com_store&manufacturer=1&item=DGD-1M. When I get within ten feet of the car it arms the ignition switch (just a simple rocker), when the ignition is switched on the starter button is engaged, as a safety precaution the starter button will only trigger the starter if the E-brake is on.
The system gives me a fun race car feel with the security of a digital key.
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I am liking that idea!
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