MarinaCA airport
we are inviting all 914 pilots to come out and AX their car at one of the premiere AX sites in Norcal. You don't need to be a regular AXer. Just come on out and see what your little car can do.
these are Zone 7 AX dates and we are going to be running within the scheduled AXs.
we are planning on sending out invitations to some of the fastest 914s in the western US. Including Tom Provasi, Steve Nieslony and others.
some of the possible things will be, lunch provided both days, T-shirts, hats, etc.
We will have a hotel with rooms available for folks coming in from more distant locals.
this is a chance for all of you to stop talking and start driving your cars...
no more excuses
more details to follow as plans come together.
Put these days on your schedule
and yes, you will be able to drive your car at this event no matter what kind of motor it has in it.
I would suggest everyone that is planning on attending go to the GGR classification site and class their car according to our points system. That way everyone will also have a PAX index number for the weekend. PAX is used to have differently prepared cars compete effectively via a multiplication factor applied to your best time.
http://comp.pca-ggr.org/rulcomm_cs/web/index.php
By the time we have the Shootout, GGR should also have our new timing system up and running. Similar to what SCCA uses with bar code scanners etc.
So how far is this from Seattle?
about 900 miles from what I can find on google maps.
this is exactly why we are planning a 2 day event, to make it worthwhile for folks to come from more extreme distances.
On both days you will be getting at least 8 runs plus fun runs and on Sunday there is a very good possibility of getting 12 or more runs.
we are hoping to get at least 20 or more 914s to attend....the more the better.
I am going to look into it. Don't know how likely it will be but I would like to give it a try. I have a baby girl due on July 9th, but maybe my wife will let me take a little break
Hmmm - This sounds fun - If you are planning on coming down from WA I will consider it as well. Marina Airport you say? How bout an address for mapquesting???
That would be cool. Then we can see how close are cars are.... in looks.
the cross streets of the area we use is at Reservation Rd and Imijin Rd. Marina California
If you go to google earth and put in Marina CA you can find it.
Dan: Isn't everyone participating supposed to be a PCA member?? Can we get around this for the weekend.
There will be a number of loaner helmets available.
To enter an AX it is usually around $30 - $35.
About a 50/50 chance I'll be in Hawaii at that time - but if not, I'm in for both days!
I'll try my ass off to be there. I need to go through the motor this year (as soon as I have the money) and install swaybars before my next AX. Is this a concrete thing right now, or is it still in the planning stages? Keep us posted, because I'm totally interested. Us So Cal guys need to go up there and represent!
Mark D.
Never AX'd before - Ran GSXR750 at willow for 5 years - This sounds inviting I am as of right now planning on attending, both days. Maybe I will try to get in an AX with Sean down here first. Got to get my car done...
Hey Dan... do you need a sponsor? Someone to cover coffee and donuts for the 914 group?
PM me.
this is really going to happen. we are just finishing up with some lose ends and such.
I think we have sponsorship handled at this point. But I do greatly appreciate your offer , and may still contact you at a latter date if things change..
If we can get the Socal group, the Norcal group and maybe a few from outer regions to participate, this could be a great competitive event for 914s.
I have had a couple of folks from WA and OR already state their interest as well.
Are you going to set up your own course, or use the existing one that's marked out? (I found it on Google earth)
Mark D.
we will be setting up our on course....on Saturday it will be run in one direction and then on Sunday we will run it in reverse with only minor changes for flow or safety.
that area is used extensively for AX....every Sat and Sunday there is a different group running an AX...
Shelby club, SCCA subclubs, PCA, Corvette club and others.
FYI - Zone 7 PCA is a pretty easy group to race AX with. They almost always have loaner helmets, never ask for any kind of PCA membership or racin liscence, and I've seen all types of 914s race. In fact, the TTOD winner for almost every event is a crusty blue 914 chopped up, TIV, pulled by a crustier Ranchero! Lots of cool folks racing for fun and enjoying their cars, whether it is a SCCA national 996 GT2 or my 1.7 rust bucket. This year in Zone 7 GGR there could be as many as 10 very fast 914s showing up to every event! Dan and BillD are both running the events this year so the Shoot Out should one of the best 914 west coast events this year, hopefully all old friends will be reunited and JP Stein brings his car.... from Oregon
Count me in, I just gotta get home and finish some details. 900 miles, sounds like a solid 12 hours at 60...I say the NW crowd convoys... Eh fellas?
glad to hear that some folks from the north are considering coming down to our little get together.....should be lots of fun...
Well I have a DOT 95 helmut, and should have a new engine by then Sounds like a plan to me.
hopefully that is a Snell 95 helmet ....I don't know any organization that uses DOT helmet ratings.
and the more the merrier.
Would this be one of those "race" on Sunday, drive home tired as heck Monday occasions.
Re: traveling in a group- between the lot of us we could store a rollaway and spare car in the trunks, for er um , maintenance.
I would be making it a family trip. So my wife would be following me in our 5-series. She would have our two kids in the back so I would need to plan stops every three hours or so. When we go up to Whistler we make one stop. I am sure we could plan something that would work well and make sure we have tools in such in case your car has a problem .
I'll consider doing this.. Although I will probably be representing 4 rings at the time (Audi a4..), but hey who knows I could be up to dusting off the 914, but I doubt it .
OK, this is going to happen.
all things are in order.
I would like to start to get a bit of a head count so I can start to decide on things to be ordered (yes, freebies) for the 914 contingent...
Lunches, shirts, hats or whatever we end up with.
I will edit the first post of this thread with head count....this is not in stone.
Just want to start to get an idea on who would like to be in attendance.
thanks for your interest.
Count me in!
Mark D.
Like I said before. I am going to try to make this happen, but it will all depend on when my little girl is born.
OK, sports fans.
Initial registration will be open online at www.motorsportreg.com within the next 2 days. once we are up and running I will edit this post.
Please go to this site, register if you are a new user (it is free)
This registration is to give us some ideas of numbers so we can make appropriate arrangements. If your plan change you can cancel on the same site so we can keep track of everyone.
As the site says, more information will be coming as more arrangements are made and things come together.
We are not collecting money on the registration site. All fees will be collected the day of the events.
If you only drive Saturday or Sunday, you will only pay for that day.
Thanks for your support.
Daaaan. I just tried to register and got a message that registration has been suspended
Oooops, guess I was little early
reread the post before yours....I suspended it for 2 days to clear up a couple of details and then will be reopened.
sorry....
registration is now open
www.motorsportreg.com
Look for PCA Autocross, Marina CA
hope to see many of you there....
more details to follow as plans come together
I am in... Just completed registration at www.motorsportreg.com
I will be staying at Comfort Inn in Marina. I arranged this through Yopu's travel site www.i-yoputravel.com Her site is usually for businesses to arrange travel but what the heck. It matches the lowest price available and helps out a 914Chick!!!
Great Rob, and now I just found that JP has signed up. So now all you Norcal hot shoes will have to run against the "shitbox"
His car has been doing very well... when Britain is driving
Sorry if yI don;t know you well enough to say that JP
Maybe if you came up to Bremerton
Date is kind of far off, but I would try to go one day!
(Novice group)
This could be fun, but I need to get the car working consistently. Are you using GGR classes?
we will try to get everyone classed as close as possible so everyone has an even start.
you don't have to do this, but I think it will be nice for everyone to get an idea of how their car preparation stacks up.
Anyone that signs up for the shoot out should visit the GGR points site and get their car classed.
that way you can have some real bragging rights.
the GGR points site is here http://comp.pca-ggr.org/rulcomm_cs/web/index.php
I am going to be there - hopefully in a running car
Otherwise I will be cheerleader,
Man...Only 2921.42 miles from my house, maybe next year
come on up....that is one of the points of this two day event. Get more folks from further away to make the trip.
I will be worth the drive...........I promise.
Dan,
Have you got anything I can tell HW yet?
Come on down to the Shoot Out! Trash talking is required...
hhmmm...drive my car 7 hours north, AX for 2 days, then 7 hours back to SD. if Sue wants to go, where do I put my V710s?
Marina things sounds like fun..I would really like to convoy that would make it more enjoyable .and to see many cars in a row haul`n ass down I5 would be cool...Hell lets make it a race there ?everyone puts $100 in the pot winner take all no rules.....crazy idea but sounds fun dont it
Here is the hotel information for the event
Thanks to Trekkor for obtaining these rooms and rates for our event.
GROUP CONTRACT
GROUP NAME: 914 Club
ARRIVAL DATE: August 1, 2008 ARRIVAL TIME: 3:00 PM
DEPARTURE DATE: August 3, 2008 DEPARTURE TIME: 11:00 AM
TOTAL NUMBER OF ROOMS: Ten (10)
5 single
5 double
COST PER ROOM: $125.99 + taxes* (single)
$143.99 + taxes* (double)
*(Taxes include 10% occupancy tax and $.50 County Tourism Assessment)
RELEASE DATE FOR BLOCK: July 1, 2008
This contract is for a block of rooms being held at the Quality Inn Monterey Beach Dunes in Marina, CA. The group rate quoted is only valid until the release date as stated above. Any reservations booked after the release date will be subject to room availability and rate increases. Any non-reserved guests that attempt to arrive without a reservation will not be honored with the advanced booking group rate.
All guests must call the toll free number 800 550 0055 to book reservations. At the time of the booking, the guest needs to mention the group name to the booking agent to receive the group rate. The agent or staff of the hotel will not adjust room rates at check in. It is important that all guests identify themselves with the group name provided
A Ten Dollar ($10.00) telephone deposit is required, per room, for outside telephone service, including credit card/operated assisted calling. This deposit is fully refundable, less any telephone charges that the guest has incurred. The motel will not accept collect telephone calls for any guest. Personal checks will not be accepted or cashed.
Complimentary continental breakfast is served daily in the breakfast room inside the lobby from 7am – 10am. For the guest convenience the hotel has a courtesy laundry room, Jacuzzi, vending machines including complimentary ice, and complimentary high speed wireless internet.
I would love to be there to try out the new rear struts "in anger" but I'll be in Monaco that Saturday and Livorno on the Sunday....poor me. Lyn and I are doing a "grand tour" 14 day cruise of the Med for our 40th anniversary....gotta do something......of course due to poor planing I'll be almost 3 months late for the Grand Prix de Monaco....one of these days tho...... I am gonna hire a cab to take me on a drive over the course, he probably won't be as fast as Masa or Hamilton ...
thanks for looking
So I've been trying to get this to work out for my family, but a 12 hour drive with a newborn and a 2 year old would be too much. I hope to make it next year if you can have it again
Oh Rob
Do we have a head count for this thing? I put in for the time today, so you can put me on the 'definitely' list.
Mark D.
Anyone looking for a potential taste of what's to come can watch this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QftrDvj_K_Y
Do we get an automatic 15 seconds shaved off our time if we drive in from Tennessee? Also no penalties for hitting cones?
I would suggest everyone that is planning on attending go to the GGR classification site and class their car according to our points system. That way everyone will also have a PAX index number for the weekend. PAX is used to have differently prepared cars compete effectively via a multiplication factor applied to your best time.
http://comp.pca-ggr.org/rulcomm_cs/web/index.php
By the time we have the Shootout, GGR should also have our new timing system up and running. Similar to what SCCA uses with bar code scanners etc.
How far is it from Los Angeles?
depending on where in the LA basin....but ~5 hours +or-.
course is being co-designed by a former 914 pilot and a current 914 pilot...
so it should be a pretty nice course with something for everyone.
when the design is finalized, I will post it for your enjoyment
come on folks, it would be great to see more 914s than 911s at this event...
quit looking at it and drive it.
just a little over 3 weeks to go
are you signed up, are you going to actually drive your car instead of talking about it?
come on. there will be some very fast 914s in attendance.
tic, tic, tic, tic..............
OK you got to cruise around and see the sights now it is time to actually DRIVE your car.
Hellooooooooooooooooooooooo
'Fraid I can't make it after all. No money for the trip in addition to the stuff that needs to be done with that car. I can afford the work, or the trip. Not both! Also, I cracked a trailing arm a week ago and that needs to be fixed. Bummer too. I've been looking forward to this all year.... Guess, I need to find something more local. Sorry Dan.
Mark D.
that is too bad Mark . We will probably be doing something similar next year...so stay tuned.
Dan,
Is there some official sign up sheet for this event or do I just show up like I usually do for the GGR events. On the Club site I saw something about preregestering for this event and getting a T-shirt, but I could not find that sign up list either.
See you this Saturday at Bay Meadows!
Scott Detro
Scott, use this address
http://www.motorsportreg.com/index.cfm/event/dashboard
you have to register with the site, it is free.
if you can't get thru on that one start here at
www.motorsportreg.com
glad you are going to make it Scott.
by the way Scott, this Saturday's AX has been moved to Alameda not Bay Meadows.
I won't be there though I had already committed to instruct at Trekkor's AX school being put on thru Track Masters at Sears Point on Saturday...
Have a good day, but be sure to go to Alameda.
A lot of the 914 guys will be at Sears on Saturday so you might be one of only one or two at Alameda.
Dan,
Thanks for the registration info, I did sucessfully register at MotorSportReg.com
Also thanks for pointing me in the right directoin for this Saturday, I am sorry I missed out on the training event ar Sears Point+, I think my head was in the sand for too long a period and I missed out. See you at the shoot out!
Scott
Wow show your true feelings...
you could just do a Are you shooting the smiley faces???
Seriously though, I may make it if I can get my car back together, I'm not to far away...sounds like fun!
just doing a bump is boring ....
tweaking a few folks is more fun....
and the shooting was in reference to the "shoot out" not anyone I was putting a contract on.
there will be several chopped and gutted 914s in attendance to the shootout...and they are all looking for TTOD on both days...some with 6s and some with type IVs
maybe we can finally put that discussion to rest...........at least for a short while
come on down and play with some of the fastest Porsches on the west coast.
Went through the GGR classification...
Who else is in AX7?
Here's hoping to be there!!!!
EDIT: Missed a few items, now a AX5.... i think...
come on, don't you want to drive your car in a safe, fast, ticket free environment?
I think they afraid of being beaten by the Putt-Putt.........
Hey guys, Dan sold the little orange car! It's safe to come out and play now!
sure come on out and play...
Should be a blast! Sounds like 2007 Parade winning car will be there with Steve N at the helm!. This is shaping up to be the the biggest 914 AX event ever! 914's should rule the day!
here is a partial list of big guns and their cars
Hamilton racing 914-4 with AdrewB
Beast 914-6 semi tubed rocket with BillP
#222 914-4 with RandalB
Pirate Ship with Grantsfo and Dan (almaden Valley)
Shitbox with JP and Britain
914-6 3.2ss with BillD
914-4 Parade winner 2007 with SteveN
Possibly multi parade winner TomP (we are still working on him behind the scenes)
and then we have many well driven and well set up 914-6 and 914-4s coming as well
even if you don't plan on driving (why not?) you should cruise down to Marina on Saturday or Sunday and see probably the biggest collection of 914s AXing for fun, fame and bragging rights.
I've got my car in the shop! Depending on the verdict we shall see. I would love to make the trip down. Be nice to do an AX even if I will get stomped. Love to give it a whirl though. I don't need to have a roll bar do I?
Only TEN days to the Shootout!!!!
Bad news! My car did blow a headgasket (v8). Good news is heads are at the machine shop as we speak. Should have it back on friday barring a setback
More good news I mentioned the shootout to the wife. Kids are actually in Utah visiting family until the 5th. So we could make a nice weekend trip down. Anyone else bringing their significant others? Not sure the whole autox scene will work for my wife!
Hopefully I can get a few parts sold to help defray my fuel & lodging! Either way things are looking up
If you are coming down in more than one car. She could spend time in Monterey, Carmel, Santa Cruz and lots of other great places while you play.
do we have a head count?
add Herb Meeder and Sean Molloy from San Diego
we be rollin up for the 914 smack down
Sean,
make sure you go to motorsportreg.com and get on the list.
it amazes me that there isn't more interest in getting out there and actually driving your car instead of just looking at it in the driveway.
Sears Point, turn 7, circa 1995
'73 2.0L with basic mods.
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OK how about this one?
you can surely out run one of these two?
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How 'bout one of these?
Taken at Fontana Speedway in March! This dude was FAST!
Mark D.
I like that alot!
All signed up and hotel room booked!
And i'll be bringing my Pit-Crew, errr, girl friend ...
Andy
glad you will be there Andy.
JR (Jolly Roger) is all ready and on lashed down to the trailer. Just need to buy the race gas for the weekend now. Looking forward to this event! Dan and I may be outgunned but we may just have a few tricks up our sleeves to help give us a fighting chance against all those crazy fast dedicated AX cars. ..Well not so many tricks, but car is a little better aligned now. Hope that helps us turn better than my last couple outings at Marina this year.
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I just booked my room! I am coming & hope like hell my car wil run well when I get there. Won't have a whole lot of time to test it out before we leave. Wife opted to stay home. Any fellow Oregonians want a ride?
Crap! Had setback with my car. Not going to make it now. Have fun everyone! Maybe next time
Count me in for Saturday!
I'll be there Saturday. Alas, as a spectator only. Looking forward to see how all these cars are prepped.
I'm planning to be there too, but without my Teener.
Later,
Tom, what is up with the 914? Haven't heard the story...
come on down with the 911, we will still let you play
This is shaping up to be the biggest and fastest 914 AX we have seen ever! Two Parade winning cars likely showing up. Multi driver super zoomies. Should be very coOL!
If you live in the greater bay area, you owe it to yourself to get down to Marina, even if it is just to spectate.
2 PCA Parade TTOD winners
many super zoomy chop top 914s with big 4s and 6s, on slicks
cars from Washington, Oregon and Socal.
many narrow bodied hot 4s and 6s on DOT Rs
many stockish 914s.
you will see it all in one spot.
nearly 40 914 cars and drivers....it will be the 914 competitive event of the year, maybe the decade.
Andy, just don't leave a trail of goop on the course
yes these are normal GGR, LPR Zone 7 AXs. so any Porsche is good to go.
make sure you come over to the far side of the tarmac. That is where you find all the 914s.
Hmmmm, hadn't thought of that scenario
I guess it is a possibility since those slicks are getting up there in age.
That was a lot of fun. Here are some pics
http://picasaweb.google.com/jesmithiv/914ShootOutMarinaAX20080802
regards,
James
If anyone wants really high res let me know.
Excellent turnout! I didn't do a headcount, but i'm guessing 25 914s or so ...
Britain took TTOD driving JPs "Shitbox". There were quite a few 914s in the overall top ten.
I'm still trying to get used to all the gobs of power, but i felt like i was doing pretty well today.
I can't get the car to rotate, too much stickage in the rear, so i'm going to play with the setup a bit for tomorrow.
we shall see ...
Andy
Pics
http://picasaweb.google.com/jesmithiv/914ShootOutMarinaAX20080802
Regards,
James
Just got home, tired and beaten ...
Today went better, i was able to get the rear end to come around after i made the sway bar change this morning.
My biggest problem now, i can't get the power on the asphalt !!!
I was laying down 30 yards of rubber in a straight line coming out of a sweeper in 3rd(!) gear.
Yeah baby, 3rd gear burnouts ...
Amazing how much smoke there is inside those tires just waiting to be let out ...
I got the left rear tire down to the cords all around on the inside and the other three have patches of cord showing as well. Time for a new set ...
Anybody got a Guard LSD they want to sell for the 901? I'm in dire need of one!
Andy
Whew what a weekend! Wrenching all day Sat and driving/racin all day Sunday.
BIG THANKS go out to Dan, Brad, Bill C, Mike, JP, Brit, Trek and all the many 914 guys and gals that helped make the Shootout the most fun and exciting AX I have been to yet.
Personally, I had an OK day getting used to new tires, suspension, and gearing. It was my first race of 2008 and my skillz were dusty. My AX11, sticky DOTR 1.7 managed a 46.1xx by the end of the day, and with a few more tries I could have been in the 45s I think.
Andy and Brad were blowing smoke out the back of the 3.6 like a weekend at the NHRA drags. Yes, Andy and Brad shared driver duties - they are still friends
Grant and Dan shared the Olympic Blue Pirate ship and got up on 2 wheels several times.
JP and Brit showed us all what years of careful prep and gifted driving can do - woop ass on the entire West Coast. Way to go guys! My hat is off to youz.
Gary kicked ass too - I need a 6.
Andrew B, our local PCA hot shoe, put on the BEST effort I have seen from him Sunday. After almost every run, the notebook came out, tire temps taken, air pressures etc. He was determined to put his blue Smurfy TIV ahead of the yellow Shotbox 6. Brit nipped his time on the LAST run, but skidded in to the cones after the timing clock and was penalized for that. Oh the drama! Brit deservedly took the 914 TTOD for the weekend.
Super fun catching up with all the 914 gang...Bill, Brian, Demick, Tony, Randal, and everyone else who's name I have forgotten. See you next time at the races
This was a great event. Thanks again to Brad, Larry, JP, Trekkor and others who pulled this one togther. It was a blast. Fun to see so many people having a great time.
Great fun watching Andy burn rubber in 3rd gear. I had front row seat from my worker position as he lit tires up for good 30 yards! Wild stuff.
JP's car was fantastic and was great seeing Andrew pulling off 914 TTOD yesterday. Even more amazing was fact he switched to DOT R hoosiers for the first time and ran radials on a car that has been on bias slicks at every event for past few years.
I like this Photo that Mike Koozman took. Pretty much sums up the weekend for me!
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There was more smoke where that came from ...
Anybody got more pics of my burnouts???
Andy
I would think Trekkor got quite a few Andy.
So I took waay too many pictures sunday, ended up with almost a gig.
I'm uploading every last one of them to a friend's server. I separated it into directories based on car number, and have 24 unique 914's! An excellent showing.
http://lolinter.net/fail/8:3:08/
A couple notes:
If I didn't get a picture of your car, I'm sorry, it means you were probably running right before me (I was grabbing the camera in between runs).
I'm a lousy photographer, so I just dumped everything up there (almost 500 pics). To conserve bandwidth I thus listed cars by their # so you don't have to look at all the lousy shots of other people's cars. I'd love it if you linked the good photos of your/others cars to this or other threads.
Along the above lines, linking 'em here is okay, but I'd appreciate if you rehosted them if you're going to post them outside of the 914 forums.
Nice Pics Cliff. Thanks for posting them...
Congradulations to JP and Britain. JP has worked hard to get his car to where it is today and deserves some satisfaction. What type of LSD is in JP's car and what is it set at. Just wondering to compare it to a track setup.
IIRC Guard
The coverage on this event is unsurpassed. An indication of how huge it was.
Kudos to Trekkor and Cliff for the great documentation in photos. And to all others as well.
This was by far the best AutoX that I've been to. I'm inspired.
Tony
Capitola, CA
good talking to you the other day Tony...glad you got out there and ran the car. Now you can start modding it.
I see a duplicate of the Puttputt in your future....multi-tasking 914.
Man. I would've gotten spanked up there! Looks like fun though. You'd better have one next year that I can come to.
Mark D.
Definitely looks like fun . . .
I love that 3-wheelin action.
Enjoy!
like this?
me in Grant's car....
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Or this? LOL!
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I've added a thumbnail page for all of those images I posted before here:
http://lolinter.net/fail/8:3:08/914.html
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