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Posted by: twoskinuts Mar 9 2008, 12:32 AM

All this creative talk got me in the mood to share. This is in the development stages yet but I got alot figured out on paper. An the lids I have hookup already to open this far with out changing the moving part of the motor is all done with the lid. Tell me what you think!!


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Posted by: KaptKaos Mar 9 2008, 12:37 AM

I dig it.

I always thought that the lights were a weak styling point.

Posted by: boxstr Mar 9 2008, 12:40 AM

Reminds me of the early Miata light changes. Looks good.
CCL

Posted by: dw914er Mar 9 2008, 12:48 AM

that is pretty cool

another idea, something similar to the old datsun zed cars, where the headlight is in the back, and so you mold a piece metal to hold the lights, and it slopes back up with the hood (a way to sorta remove pop up light feature)

hmmm, i should see how that would look


thanks for inspiring another idea


anyways, good luck on the design work, i am curious to see how it develops

Posted by: dw914er Mar 9 2008, 12:52 AM

btw, looks like you might do an hd light for it


that would be pretty sick, and def work better than our standard halogen light

Posted by: 914Sixer Mar 9 2008, 06:40 AM

Keep in mind the age of the cars wiring. Depending on the type of lighting used, the voltage draw may cause wire heating. Make sure you have some sort of relays installed.

Posted by: twoskinuts Mar 9 2008, 08:54 AM

My intensions is to make it halogen right now to upgrade little down the road to HID just because of the cost of the HID systems that will fit in the headlight bucket for hi/lo beam setup is $2000 right now. The halogens I'm going to use are 55watt lo beam projector an a 65watt hi beam reflector setup so the original wiring should be ok at these wattages if not I have a extra fuse block in f.trunk aready if need be. Then upgrade to HID high beam and ending up with dual projectors! An a headlight mount hook to all the original mounting points & motor so if I want I can switch back to original no problem!!

Posted by: charliew Mar 9 2008, 09:32 AM

Looks like a interesting idea. what front end treatment are you using?
Charliew

Posted by: PanelBilly Mar 9 2008, 09:38 AM

I'd like to see a molden piece around the lamps, so it had a finished look. Something simple painted in black. That way it wouldn't stand out too much.

Posted by: kwales Mar 9 2008, 10:53 AM

I like it...

If it only opens that far, there will be less drag and less blocked visiblility....

Ken

Posted by: r_towle Mar 9 2008, 11:04 AM

I love the idea.
What are the larger lights that you are using?
Can two of the larger lights fit in that space?
I have always thought that two lights, maximum size for
the space, like 4 inches, would look really cool.

I love the lower opening of the lights...cool.

Keep posting picks so I can copy your ideas...

Rich

Posted by: twoskinuts Mar 9 2008, 11:36 AM

I have access to a racecar shop we built dirt modified bodys out of sheet alum. so it will be wrapped in alum. prepaint black. No way I can test for drag but they ownly stick up about 4 inchs tops so definitely less to look at from the driver seat The ones i'm looking at the lens is 3 1/2" but you can't get two of them in there the bucket to small!!

Posted by: dw914er Mar 9 2008, 03:18 PM

i wonder for the turnsignals if there is just a longer, 1 piece rectangular one to use instead

idk

anyways, keep workin on the idea, i think it will add a new, more agressive look to the car with that light set up

Posted by: twoskinuts Mar 10 2008, 01:20 PM

There 911 turnsignals going in the f.bumper the ones that are in the pic. I hooked them up like that so I could drive the car this past summer!

Posted by: Phoenix 914-6GT Mar 10 2008, 01:30 PM

Your work is very nice.I love the look of the headlights myself, but what you're doing is amazing. It's always fun to create something on a car that becomes your art. Keep it up and please keep showing it to us.

Posted by: Twise Mar 10 2008, 01:37 PM

I had that same idea - So, you do all the work and then I will buy them from you....

NIce...

Posted by: Betty Mar 10 2008, 02:46 PM

Heck yeah! ANYTHING at all that you can do to see better at night - and be SEEN better at night is great.

I've always thought the headlights were a real weak point on 914's.

Posted by: championgt1 Mar 10 2008, 09:12 PM

Looks nice. I always wondered what it might look like with plexiglass light covers over the headlight. Like the 924 carrera gts cars.

Something like this.

Posted by: 749142 Mar 10 2008, 09:15 PM

Dude im loving the pop up lights. that is freaking genuis. hey would you mind if i used it on my car? but i would leave the stock fenders on mine. i like the stock front blinkers.

Posted by: dw914er Mar 10 2008, 09:17 PM

that gts idea was sort of what i thought


keeps everything low, and the new fenders would probably make it look mean ass hell

Posted by: nukepipe Mar 10 2008, 09:29 PM

4 years ago tough to do a low rise pop up lights…… then I went like this.






I love the way your getting with this.... AWSOME

Posted by: geniusanthony Mar 10 2008, 09:31 PM

The only error in using the 924GTS lights behind plexi is the vertical height of the teener flaps vice the 924's, only a few inches if memory serves. I am loving Dan's solution though and can't wait to see it finished. He does some nice fab.

Dan, you mentioned using alum as the "Bezel" around those lamps, and not knowing your vision of the final product I would still like to suggest some molded bezels. kind of like how lowrider guys will build a wooden frame and drape the compsite over it. Looks really smooth when they apply it to their umpteen subwoofers. Just a thought and best of luck on your vision.

Posted by: 749142 Mar 10 2008, 09:32 PM

nice i may do something similar to get rid of the popup mechanisms. less weight!

Posted by: twoskinuts Mar 10 2008, 09:47 PM

I like that gts look also but i think the hood line is to steep an it wouldn't allow the light to shine down the road an there's really not alot of room in the headlight bucket to work with. An if you want to use my idea go ahead have fun!

Posted by: sixgt Mar 10 2008, 09:55 PM

The fixed Carrera GT headlights can be done, you can carry the front of the headlight bucket down lower into the top the front bumper. It would have a similar profile to the GT headlight covers, having 2 angles and not just the flat lid.

Posted by: twoskinuts Mar 10 2008, 10:18 PM

Hey Tony, The lights im looking at come with a bezel. An the alum. is to inclose the light fixtures.

Posted by: twoskinuts Mar 10 2008, 10:22 PM

An I almost went with no popups but change my mine.

Posted by: twoskinuts Mar 10 2008, 11:01 PM

Reneage has a video of a pop-up spoiler really cool stuff!!! http://www.renegadehybrids.com/PressReleases/PR06.html

Posted by: purple Mar 11 2008, 10:34 AM

I Love this idea! It looks great and projector beam headlights are awesome! I had HID's on my miata and it was the best set of lights i've ever had on a car.

I can suggest maybe instead of dropping t M notes on some HID's you could find some standard bulb projectors. Mazda uses them on everything but the top of the line cars (grand touring) so i know they exist. I bet they'd be a lot less spendy and you'd get a very similar effect. And you wouldnt have to install the transformer that the HID arclamps need!

Posted by: twoskinuts Mar 11 2008, 01:11 PM

The low beams are halogen projectors here a pic an the hi beams are just like the ones in the pics on top of this page. Then when I save up some $$$ I'll upgrade to HID high beams to match the low beam projectors for a full set.


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Posted by: Phoenix 914-6GT Mar 11 2008, 01:30 PM

So Since you have all this access to aluminium haev you thought of making them fixed and manipulating The aluminium over them to make it look stealthy rather than boxy? Kinda to match the look of the one on the top of the page.

Posted by: McMark Mar 11 2008, 01:36 PM

HEY!!! You crawled into my brain and stole my idea...

Lookin good! Keep us posted!

Posted by: plymouth37 Mar 11 2008, 02:23 PM

That is my car, and yes it was a pain in the ass to design!
To address the head-light issue, I just welded mine shut and put small round headlights in the fog light holes.

Posted by: twoskinuts Mar 11 2008, 04:11 PM

Dana, Nice to meet you kinda. I did alot business with renegade building my car I talk poor Scott's ear off & Mike acouple of times to when I doing was doing my motor job. I really like your fab job on your wing is excellent man. I was looking at your pics I can't put one on my car all them bars that work the wing go right where my golf bag fits An my lights I like the popup thing I'll get them in there!

Posted by: Cevan Mar 11 2008, 04:28 PM

I saw your avatar in an episode of Top Gear.

Posted by: Rand Mar 11 2008, 04:36 PM

Reminds me of one of our member's cars in New York....


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Posted by: purple Mar 11 2008, 05:55 PM

It would be better to have HID low beams because of the ways hi beams are used.

Hi beams are normally blinked or change from off to on to off to on.

HID's really dont like this kind of thing. They are like those streetlamps in that they have to 'strike' and then come up to temperature.

The strike is what is hardest on the bulb and the transformer and using them as a 'blinking' light will burn the bulb out very quickly. Using them as headlights is fine because they are on and stay on for a prolonged period, which is fine for them.

Just FYI new HID bulbs run ~$250

Posted by: championgt1 Mar 11 2008, 06:41 PM

Exactly what I was thinking of.

Thanks for the pic.

Posted by: twoskinuts Mar 12 2008, 05:12 AM

Purple, Thanks for the info new at this HID thing didn't know that maybe I'll just keep hi beams as is and upgrade the low beam to HID.

Posted by: twoskinuts Apr 4 2008, 11:10 PM

Update: I got the basic frame work done on my headlight project I got it all hooked up with all the original hardware! I got the lid mounts on I have the hi-beams once I get the low beams I'll weld mounting plates for the lights on the frame here some pics!!


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Posted by: twoskinuts Apr 4 2008, 11:10 PM

Update continued from last page: couple more pics


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Posted by: twoskinuts Sep 3 2023, 08:24 PM

So, it's been a while since posted here as you can tell by the dates on this post lol and I'm back at it again.

And I have LED projectors for the headlights now but first I have to wait for it to get out of the body shop they started painting yesterday and I'm really liking it!!

More pics to come!

Posted by: SirAndy Sep 3 2023, 08:45 PM

Damn, 15 years later!

Welcome back ...

Posted by: Cairo94507 Sep 4 2023, 07:52 AM

Holy thread resurrection Batman! Welcome back- a nice coat of color always helps.

Posted by: twoskinuts Sep 5 2023, 04:37 AM

Here it is with a few hours work yesterday.

I used the Chalon kit but cut the sail panels off and had the accordions taken off the bumbers never liked that about the kit to fill the void cutting the sail panels off had some custom scoops put in there not functional yet alot more work to be done.

Posted by: barefoot Sep 5 2023, 11:28 AM

My Chalon kit had been altered similar to yours deleting the accordions and adding oil cooler vents in front of the rear fender openings. Just fits a small oil cooler back here.

Posted by: twoskinuts Sep 10 2023, 02:28 PM

Nice, I at one point was going to go with red but changed my mind to yellow.

Posted by: burton73 Sep 10 2023, 02:57 PM

Dan,


I really like where you are going on your car. Keep it up. There are custom body haters, but I dig it. A unique Car. The yellow is also right on


Bob B I guess I missed your early postings so:

Posted by: twoskinuts Sep 12 2023, 08:12 AM

Thanks Bob love your car btw and the color. lol
And dealt with the custom side of it here in the past have no problem with it.

Posted by: AZBanks Sep 12 2023, 04:22 PM

I went with BiXenon HID fixed lights on my 944.

My plan is a one piece header panel to eliminate all of the headlight gaps.

Posted by: twoskinuts Sep 12 2023, 07:49 PM

Nice I like that look on the 944 good friend of mine had one had alot of fun with that car!
Here's what I'm going to be working with the Hella 60mm LED projectors into the teener.

Posted by: twoskinuts Oct 31 2023, 12:39 PM

Well, I when on vacation for a few weeks the begin of the month got to work on the car alittle last week got all the blinkers back in and my painter been buffing on the car also kinda slowing me up abit. lol

Posted by: twoskinuts Jan 21 2024, 09:48 AM

Getting together the rear LED lighting with a flasher relay that you can adjust the speed and the duration before the solid stoplight pretty cool and a 3rd brake light in the rollbar trim l made-up
I was trying to load up the video but just took a screenshot of it with the brake lights on.

Posted by: twoskinuts Mar 9 2024, 08:53 AM

Back to the headlights getting the framework mounted into the buckets and the lids that's how far there going to open up.