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Posted by: Jake Raby Apr 28 2008, 05:29 PM

Thats right, love him or hate him, he is the Dr. of all 914s and he is still dedicated to these cars...

I thought having George on the show would be a perfect addition to my show and would prove to being both informative and entertaining, with a tad bit of spice.

Considering that George and I have vastly different views on several aspects of the 914 this show should be very interesting to say the very least!!

So, what questions would you like to have me ask the Dr. during the show?? What do you want to know about AA and how the company was started??

I am looking forward to this show!

Posted by: ericread Apr 28 2008, 05:40 PM

OK! How do I tune in to this? Will there be a cage? Gloves or bare-hands? Will George be bringing along his shell (the one without the VIN?)

Posted by: Jake Raby Apr 28 2008, 05:51 PM

The podcast is hosted via Itunes and produced by my company. Do a search on Itunes for "Aircooled Technology Radio"

Or follow this link
http://rdtlabs.com/podcast/index.html

Our first show is up now, after a year hiatus from the podcast...

Posted by: Rand Apr 28 2008, 05:59 PM

How much is a rusted 914-6 tub worth?

Ok, sorry. Uncalled for, I know.

In all seriousness, I'm looking forward to this episode!

Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Apr 28 2008, 06:01 PM

AND we have a lot of other junk here for sale!!!!!! Better than the scrapper (metal prices are really up!)

Posted by: Jake Raby Apr 28 2008, 06:11 PM

The response to having George on the show has been phenomenol already... (12 emails in 30 minutes!!!)

Posted by: SGB Apr 28 2008, 06:18 PM

Jake- you da man!
"love him or hate him..."

Good for you George!

I won't miss this.

Posted by: Cap'n Krusty Apr 28 2008, 06:26 PM

Me! Me! I have a question! I've seen the pictures, and I wanna know how they got that doberman to do that ................... The Cap'n

Posted by: Joe Mama Apr 28 2008, 06:28 PM

I wanna know why I have to get up in the middle of the night all the time....

Posted by: GWN7 Apr 28 2008, 07:12 PM

Inlarged prostrate?

Posted by: Joe Mama Apr 28 2008, 07:33 PM

Naw, the cat learned to ring the door bell....

Posted by: SLITS Apr 28 2008, 07:41 PM

Only in Georgia

















must be the water.

Posted by: SGB Apr 28 2008, 10:59 PM

Bruce stop it, yer killin' me!

Posted by: ChrisNPDrider Apr 28 2008, 11:19 PM

So George, what's your favorite 914 internet site?
If you were given the task of building a hot-rod 914, which MassIVe Raby engine kit would you choose to power it?
How many copies of the new catalog have you mailed out, and where is mine??

Posted by: Jake Raby Apr 28 2008, 11:30 PM

We'll be talking about the AA catalog for sure....
The show will air in the middle of May, I am starting to prepare my questions for George now...

Posted by: dw914er Apr 28 2008, 11:39 PM

Jake, is this free on itunes? I never actually use the store so i wouldnt know.

Should be an interesting broadcast

Posted by: Jake Raby Apr 29 2008, 12:32 AM

Yes, absilutely free on Itunes.... Listen to it on the PC or your Ipod.

Posted by: rdauenhauer Apr 29 2008, 11:06 AM

ya but you have to load the stupid app to get there.

Posted by: p914 Apr 29 2008, 12:01 PM

Hey Jake,
Left a message with your dad yesterday and emailed. Call me at 310-691-8029 about the VO stuff for the show.
Thanks
Eddie

Posted by: Lavanaut Apr 29 2008, 12:22 PM

Jake, iTunes is fine for a lot of people, but for the rest of it it sucks. Hard. Now I realize that it will give you maximum exposure, but I emplore you...please consider offering up your show through at least one alternative outlet. iTunes is a bloated memory hog, built around greed, that will never see the light of day on any of my machines no matter how much I want to hear you interview George.

I'm not bashing here at allll, I understand why it was a natural choice. I'm just putting the word out there that a large portion of the population absolutely loathes Apple's precious iTunes.

My $0.02,

Reid

Posted by: Jake Raby Apr 29 2008, 12:42 PM

Itunes does have it's gripes.. BUT it's simple and makes it easy for us to share the show.

If the show continues to be a huge success we'll look into direct downloads. If that happens we'll have to go to a subscription arrangement to justify the cists.

I will also be selling the shows on CD through my store..

Posted by: ericread Apr 29 2008, 12:50 PM

Sorry, but I like iTunes

Thanks Jake, I will look forward to your podcast.

Posted by: Lavanaut Apr 29 2008, 12:56 PM

Nothing to be sorry for, that's great for you. Like I said, many people don't have a problem with iTunes. But many do.

Thanks Jake for acknowledging iTunes' shortcomings. If there were a subscription-based approach with reasonable costs and direct downloads, I'd sign up.

Posted by: dw914er Apr 29 2008, 02:31 PM

what is the problem with itunes.

my only complaint so far is loading videos to the ipod (you can only go through itunes)

everything else seems to work fine

Posted by: Eric_Shea Apr 29 2008, 02:59 PM

See if you can get him to spill the beans and give exact coordinates to the lost warehouse!

Posted by: dw914er Apr 29 2008, 03:15 PM

not sure if it applies

but is the doctor with aa helping to get more 914 parts available, especially parts that are no longer carried.

aka stuff from the fuel injection that i can never find, to usa spec taillights?

Posted by: auerbach Apr 29 2008, 04:01 PM

Just hit the link to my iTunes -- happy listening -- when is the video coming?

Posted by: George H. Apr 29 2008, 04:05 PM

it does



that's what we hear




those Items are on the High Sea's




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Posted by: Jake Raby Apr 29 2008, 04:13 PM

I like Itunes, but it can be confusing.. Once I got a Mac it all started making more sense..

Yep, the Dr. is making lots of never before offered items for the 914. His dedication to these cars is what I appreciate most...

He and I talked about some instructional videos produced by my company that would be shot at AA using their goodies, but its still up in the air.. Imagine a video with the Dr. on how to do a PPI on a 914??? That would sell like hell!

Posted by: dw914er Apr 29 2008, 04:37 PM

mac experience probably helps alot

i think any 914 video that gives tips to do work on the car, and tricks to get around the tight spaces would be pretty sweet


casue my haynes manual sucks!!!! lol

Posted by: Gint Apr 29 2008, 04:53 PM

itunes is just a tool... it's like a screwdriver. A standard screwdriver. You hate using it, but it gets the job done and you own a dozen.

I wouldn't miss this for nuthin.

Posted by: Lavanaut Apr 29 2008, 05:32 PM

In the interest of staying on Jake's original topic, I started an iTunes related thread http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=83437.

Jake please make sure to ask George his take on iTunes though.

Posted by: auerbach Apr 29 2008, 05:45 PM

Jake -- some topics for George:

PPI
When I get my 914, what do I fix first and why?
How bad is the rust problem -- really and what can I do to prevent it?
What is the supply status of parts, NLA, Repro, used junk yard etc.
How tough is it for someone non mechanically inclined lawyer to work on a 914 with or without a craftsman 118 piece metric tool kit?

Happy listening.

Posted by: Gint Apr 29 2008, 05:47 PM

I'm formulating my question for the good doctor. I'll go think about it some more while I'm in the garage working on the 914...

Posted by: Jake Raby Apr 30 2008, 01:22 PM

Cool.. Keep posting questions. I started putting together the show last night and will do the interview next week some time..

FWIW- Itunes complaints are pretty few for us, the show is such a big hit nobody gives a damn about how they have to listen to it!

Posted by: Eric_Shea Apr 30 2008, 02:42 PM

Here's one:

"What's the rational behind cutting VIN numbers and keeping the title of a 914-6 that went to the crusher; then selling them for $500.00?"

From a current eBay auction:

Jake, not trying to piss on the parade but it would probably help George immensely if he had a seriously legitimate reason for doing something like this. It would be good to hear it in his words.

Posted by: dw914er Apr 30 2008, 05:52 PM

it would be nice to kno exactly (sort of a press release)

but we dont wanna piss off george. He has been making parts easier for our cars.


I will find another question for george, but i cant think of it right now

Posted by: rdauenhauer Apr 30 2008, 06:26 PM

One last Itunes shot: Gint not a good analogy. A better one would be it is like a
mother in law. She may have been necessary at one time but now she is just a annoying bloated windbag that you are subjected to on occasion. and you keep wishing you could be rid of.

Back to the thread: ask himn if he's a MC rider, what he owns rides and what paralles he woulkd make between bikes and the 914's. (My own observation)

Posted by: Jake Raby Apr 30 2008, 07:37 PM

There will be no negativity on this show! I don't give a damn about what George does, or why he does it.

George is an 914 icon and like I said, love him or hate him there is no one that has done in the past or is doing more no1 for the 914 than George and AA. I call that being a hard charger.

The show is about aircooled engines and the cars they propel and the people that make them what they are- not about anything else.

Posted by: Joe Mama Apr 30 2008, 07:49 PM

Then I predict yer gonna need a 10 second delay and a dump button for callers....the Doc did a pretty good rehab of his rep here of late and now he's been silent on this VIN issue with that Piece of Crap 914/6.

He needs to address that issue.....2,000 good deeds can get trashed by one unexplained faux paus.....

Remember the joke about Claude The World's Greatest Lover? He had his way with every imaginable women in the world....he gets stranded on a desert island with an ugly Ewe....

What's his nickname NOW????

Posted by: GWN7 Apr 30 2008, 08:58 PM

Miles?

Posted by: TROJANMAN Apr 30 2008, 09:05 PM

Kind of like OJ is a USC Football Icon?



(BTW, the glove didn't fit)


Sorry, Back on topic............

Could you please ask if it was common practice at AA to rebadge cars?
Did the company start as a chop shop? Salvage yard?

Posted by: dw914er Apr 30 2008, 10:03 PM

maybe george was tired of the car, and just decided, hey ill put it on ebay and see what happenes. If he got a dollar for the car, it would at least free up space



but whatever, lets ask some more 914 questions. and im still searching for some to ask myself.

Posted by: Sam Charters May 1 2008, 12:12 AM

I know George; he is a person that is very helpful. I have to wonder how many of you have read his book 700 tips. How many of you have gone to his shop? He is very good at it; look back at how many years he has been in business. Think before you ask ignorant questions of him, over the years he has seen most all the problems these cars have or will have.

Posted by: auerbach May 1 2008, 12:21 AM

Can we please stop ragging on George. If you have nothing good to say about some one then just keep your red- neck mouth shut. People either love or hate AA and that's business. Personal attacks are just that personal -- and have no place in this place. I would be the first one in line to make fun of George if I could find something to make fun of, but when you are basically a boreing guy with no life what is there to say? Only one thing -- thank you for helping us loyal AA'ers to be supported with parts, knlowledge and assistance so that we can enjoy this extremely enjoyable hobby and past time.

Posted by: LvSteveH May 1 2008, 12:49 AM

Tell you what, if you would like to do George and the whole 914 community a favor, why don't you use your resources as a lawyer to put this issue to rest once and for all. The entire automotive community will owe you a debt of gratitude. Of course you have to approach this from a neutral standpoint and not twist everything to support a given position as lawyers typically do.

What are the state and federal laws with regard to removing the VIN tags from one vehicle and installing them on another, even if you legally own both cars? Which has priority, state or federal statutes? Starter here: 18USC511

We aren't talking about the old British rule that 60% of the car must be retained. We're talking about straight up transplanting VIN's by individuals and shops.

Posted by: MoveQik May 1 2008, 01:26 AM

I have read pages of his book. I have been to his shop. My wife sent me there for Father's Day in 2001 as a surprise. She sent me and my dad as a gift for my first Father's day. I flew into Georgia from Arizona for no other reason than to see his shop as she knew that he had a 916. George was aloof at best. He quickly turned us over to a very nice guy(young dude with sideburns) that gave me and my dad a tour. We bought a few things and called it a good trip.

Shortly there after I got completely screwed by him and in his usual arrogance he claimed I was "being a belligerent customer" all because I simply expected him to deliver what he told me had sitting on the shelf. I actually started filing my one and only claim with my credit card company on my order with him.

The fact that he has been in business for years doesn't make him above reproach and it sure as hell doesn't make him right. Hell, Motormeister has been in business for years....so what is your point?

So what is your next question?

Posted by: dw914er May 1 2008, 01:49 AM

his book is amazing!!!!!!!

got is as a gift, and it sits next to my hanyes manual lol

Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com May 1 2008, 03:43 PM

Some people just don't get along. Our customer comments in your file from several different salesman reflect just that. Sorry Michael. And you look like such a handsome harmless guy!

Posted by: Ferg May 1 2008, 03:49 PM

Wonder what my secret file says

Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com May 1 2008, 03:57 PM

Sorry to say, but not good Mike. Are you still in Lafayette?

Posted by: Travis Neff May 1 2008, 03:59 PM

Miata Driver?

Posted by: LvSteveH May 1 2008, 04:00 PM

Now you're on the sh*t list Wills

That's why I'm nice to George I even tried to get the lawyer to prove his case

Posted by: Ferg May 1 2008, 04:01 PM

Nope, no longer in Lafayette

Me and Wills just a couple of unreasonable customers

Posted by: Ferg May 1 2008, 04:02 PM

Posted by: TROJANMAN May 1 2008, 04:30 PM

Secret files?

How could Ferg possibly piss off anyone?
(besides the painters that are mad because there is no more blue tape on the shelf at Home Depot)


Do you think there is a note in Wills file that reads:

"Very handsome man, but what a pain in the ass"

Posted by: SLITS May 1 2008, 04:30 PM

M & M ... you should be so ashamed for expecting to get what you want / need / order ..... What is this world coming to ...



Bottom feeders & Crackers

Posted by: Eric_Shea May 1 2008, 04:37 PM

I have.

I have.

I'll try to be clear; George has a tremendous amount of knowledge about 914's and their derivatives, probably more so than most any other single person in the world.

He just seems to do stupid things over and over again;

Needlessly pissing off potential customers over a catalog fee that would be recouped with the very first loving order. (Study: Lifetime value of a customer)

Needlessly pissing off Paul over a price quoted by one of his employees while Paul is building his car in front of the world in Excellence Magazine. ($20 bucks below cost to honor a quote would have netted the very best type of advertising... and honest editorial mention.)

Needlessly pissing off customers by telling them their stuff is in stock and charging for it when it's obviously not. (Study: Lifetime value of a customer)

Needlessly pissing off customers by not taking a product back for return... even when they asked for a product credit. (Study: Lifetime value of a customer)

Selling VIN numbers for scraped cars over the internet. Duh. (you could have time to study all the above in your cell)

When he showed up here I though "finally" no more shills doing his seeding. The man himself. Maybe he'll see how these people feel. Maybe he'll help and offer restitution to some of them. Maybe he'll share his immense knowledge of the 914 with the masses here (which would be a brilliant marketing move in itself.) Things were looking up.

Then this shit... selling VIN's online.

Yeah... I'd love to see the PPI video. Especially the part about the VIN numbers and how important they are. "And here, boys and girls is where the VIN number is located. Make sure they've not been welded in from another car... this can happen, believe it or not!"

There was a day when we needed the services of someone so knowledgeable there was only one place to go and one man to get the information from. There was a day we would eat a bucket of her shit just to see her @$$.

Today we have forums where people share knowledge openly. When you add up the Gustl's and the SLITS and the DaveP's and Jeff Bowlsby's and the Andy's and McMark and Brad and Joe Sharp and Gint's and Pat Garvey's and THOMAS and the James Montibello's of the world and you pool all their knowledge... guess what? That bucket of shit is no longer so tasty.

George, I for one would like you to get your shit together and respect this group of people who would so love to respect you. We could use you as one of our allies.

Ain't gonna get there by salting the wound or selling 914-6 VIN's on eBay.

Posted by: SLITS May 1 2008, 04:48 PM

Damn Eric .....

He still won't get it.

Hi Sam, We've had good conversations .... You'll get help as long as you have money or something of interest. After that you'll be dusted off like a bad dream.

Speaking of bad dreams, how is 914114?

Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com May 1 2008, 04:51 PM

thank you for your kind thoughts.

Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com May 1 2008, 04:53 PM

I've got it, Slits, and its in the bank!!!!!!!

Posted by: SLITS May 1 2008, 05:01 PM

Exactly .... point made.

Posted by: TROJANMAN May 1 2008, 05:06 PM

I wonder if the VIN is still attached........

Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com May 1 2008, 05:08 PM

We have about 200 up the street from which you can choose. All need saving.

Posted by: MoveQik May 1 2008, 05:25 PM

Me and Ferg on the same list?? It's an honor to be in such good company.

What worries me however is this, there is an old man in Goat Fuck Holler** that thinks I am good looking. This is very disturbing indeed.

**Credit to Z for that one.

Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com May 1 2008, 05:35 PM

I think that we should take a vote Just look at that pretty face!


http://www.hotrealestateaz.com/art/willsnewp2.jpg

Posted by: 1970 Neun vierzehn May 1 2008, 06:15 PM

My gawd, do I love this Forum. So much better than anything on the tube. Heros and villians; drama , humor , conflict , resolution , backstabbing even sex Friggen' Hollywood can't write stuff as good as what I see here. And wifey wonders why I'd rather log onto this Forum than watch dancing with the sluts or 'merikan idiot.

Paul

Posted by: rhodyguy May 1 2008, 06:23 PM

damn eric. zoiks.

i'm sure my folder is in the "complete and total asshole" file.

k

Posted by: Eric_Shea May 1 2008, 07:29 PM

Mine's probably in the "round" file.

I hope my sincerity shows through. I really would like to see George "get it right" with this community. We've proven ourselves to be very forgiving and he's one hell of a 914 advocate.

Posted by: KELTY360 May 1 2008, 07:44 PM

what a dick.

Posted by: rdauenhauer May 1 2008, 08:05 PM

Boy did this get off track

Posted by: dw914er May 1 2008, 10:47 PM

yea

we need to get more questions


and i think an apology maybe.

yes, the ebay ad was probably not very smart. And it didnt make things any better. But he is after all, a business man, and he wanted to sell the car. Ebay though can be hell for any seller though.

But he also is a big 914 guys, knows alot of the ins and outs of the car, and is helping get more parts for our cars.

You cant deny that fact.

anyways, i know i have another question for him. I mentioned earlier about the usa spec taillights that are new. Where are they?

and french ones too. If i ever do another car, or replace mine, im on the fence for either style


anyways....

Posted by: ericread May 2 2008, 12:11 AM

Jake:
At this point, I think you're got our attention. I will be anxiously awaiting the next installment of your radio show on iTunes!

My thanks for the entertainment value of today's posts.

Posted by: WildBill May 2 2008, 12:46 AM

I have read years of AA/George bashing and don't understand it. We all know about AA yet continue to be surprised when George or someone from AA does something we find offensive.

Is it because people think AA should/could be great and can't comprehend that George does not want to change the way he is? That someone who apparently seems to love the 914 could be such a ?

He obviously does not see a problem with his actions or the actions of his company. He does not care and will not change. So be it. Don't buy from him if you don't like the way he operates. I purchased items from him twice over a ten year period. Both time I received a healthy helping of . I won't try again.

Since Jake is trying to do something interesting for the 914 community, the least we could do is attempt to come up with constructive questions without turning this thread into yet another AA bashing session.

Here is one-

Would it be possible to have the quality of your crappy used parts remotely resemble the glowing description your cranky salespeople spew over the phone?



Oh wait, I guess I do understand it .

Posted by: auerbach May 2 2008, 10:45 AM

Regarding the VIN issue, each state has their own rules. At least in New York, the rule is that if a car has been totaled, and the wreck sold WITHOUT A TITLE, then NYS will issue its own VIN as if the car was a kit car.

IF a car was SOLD/TRANSFERED WITH A TITLE regardless of condition, then the "car" retains its' VIN.

The question which remains unanswered is what if a VIN is SOLD with a TITLE, but without a vechile? NYDMV will never know but is it legal? Probably not.

Posted by: E-Man May 2 2008, 11:17 AM

What is your favorite engine transplant for the 914 (Porsche and non-Porsche)?

Have you driven a 914 competitively? (Road race, autocross, hillclimb, other)

What is your current favorite non-914 automobile of all time. Or list, or dream car?

What non-US country has the most 914s on the road or in existance today?

What reproduction 914 parts might we see from you in the next couple of years?

-Mike Dugan

Posted by: jsayre914 May 2 2008, 11:40 AM

Question:

George, is your bussiness where you want it to be. Do you plan to expand and become larger, is it too big already. Do you have retirement plans? what the hell will happen to all of those cars if you do retire?

Posted by: dw914er May 2 2008, 11:55 AM

question

where do you see the evolution of 914's going into the future?


How do you think the gas crisis, and the emissions crunch down on old cars( ) will affect 914's?

Posted by: sww914 May 2 2008, 11:58 AM

I have a question- Why don't you answer a straight question with a straight answer?
I think that Jake can dish out some straight questions.
Will we get rhetorical answers?
Does the Dr. have his list of talking points written up?

Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com May 2 2008, 12:12 PM

Happens all of the time. People reconstruct cars from other cars. Needless to say a rebuilt car is worth loads less than an original one......... Case in point, my beautiful red 356 roadster I drive every day. Looks fabulous. Has been totaled at least three times and one time someone died in it. TOTALLY reconstructed at a terrific expense, and the 356 roadster market is out of sight. BUT and original unmolested car compared to my rolling reconstructed total? thirty grand less. Let us all remember I am speaking about old old cars, not new ones that are still on the road. Old cars are hard to find parts for and hard to restore dealing with both rust and previous wreck.
Another case in point, a well well known Atlanta sports figure recently has his 68 shelby mustang rebodied. The shop paid 11,000 for a 68 fastback, dismantled it to the bones, cut out all of the numbers (actually sectioned a piece of the frame) bodyworked painted and reassembled. The original body was rusted and bondoed and someone sold it to the athlete taking terrible advantage of him.
Bottom line, restoration is way to expensive to compromise the work, work with the best available and do the best job for the customer. (that is what we try hard to do every day believe it or not) (though 30 years in business this year proves that!)

Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com May 2 2008, 12:26 PM

Thanks for the question: We are currently overhauling the website and really have our hands full now. The 914 catalog mailing was fabulously successful (I hesitated printing and mailing until I talked to a mentor of mine Mike Yeager at Mid America, who pounded it into me that car people are all not just exclusively on the internet)
Since then we are deep into the 924 944 catalog which in comparison to the 33,000 mailed to the 914 list, we have over 60,000 in the 924 44 24s 68 list! It is going to be terrifically expensive but we are doing it and have really stocked the shelves with parts for these cars.
I like my business where it is as I LOVE to restore Porsches and the shop is a very important part of our business for that and giving us instant technical knowledge of all of the cars. The guys in back are heavily into boxsters and 996 models now, the heavy number of 914 restorations here certainly the ballast to keep us super super busy. Our business will naturally grow (in the past it has risen and fallen on the introduction of different Porsche models) and with over 200,000 boxsters out there we will have a lot to handle in the future. We have many many parts planned that we are now making domestically and in China, (and India)
By the way, Mia and I do e bay together on the weekends for the fun of it , selling crap that no one would ever know we have (like the leftovers from customers restorations, 356 took kit pieces, 63-65 buick riviera parts postwar Lionel trains, and advertising our catalogs and books)
I will never retire nor become more cantankerous as I get older so expect me around for awhile. I can still run six miles just fine, but maybe my arm wrestling is not as good any more, but I am much more tolerant and not so idealistic anymore.

If I ever sell the "collection" It would be as one and that would mean I retired from the 914 and that I will NEVER do.

Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com May 2 2008, 12:32 PM

914s are the last of the air cooled reasonably priced Porsches so in the near future they will rapidly appreciate as many have seen them do recently. However as the years pass the demand will diminish and the values will level as the baby boomers fade and die off. Let's face it the 914 will never be the true classic that its father the 356 is, more of a cult car with an intense following.
Let's face the facts we are running out of petroleum and the years of the gasoline burning engine are limited. Everytime I get into my Dad's original 64 Buick Riviera and step on the gas, I know that 12 mpg on high test makes the car expensive entertainment (and I can remember filling the car for 24 cents a gallon!)
With that said, I truly believe that in ten years gasoline will be ten dollars a gallon and driving every gasoline powered car will be entertainment

Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com May 2 2008, 12:44 PM

The best all around transplant for a 914 is a 3.0. Factory designed to operate with a larger six cylinder (but not as big as a 3.6 without serious chassis and suspension stiffening) one can purchase factory like parts to easily install the engine and have sufficient power for most occasions. The 3.0 is readily available and fairly bullet proof and with Richard Parr's carb set, a fairly easy installation while keeping the 914 original in appearance and in the factory configuration

I have completed many of the Porsche club driving schools at Road Atlanta along with taking their three day racing school. I would love to race, pride myself on turning some fairly hot laps at Road Atlanta, but would never race because it would bankrupt me!!!!!!!
My favorite non 914 car ARE my 356s. I really love those cars. Other than that I have my Dad's original 64 Riviera he and I purchased new in May of 64, I love my 71 jag xke convertible, look fondly on my 73 mgb gt as it reminds me of my first college car, and recently came within a moment of buying a new ford gt 40
As everyone probably knows 75% of 914 production went the the U.S. and of that 75% went to you california boys (maybe that is why you all act so spoiled!!)
Of what remained nothing went to England because of the right hand drive problem (crayford conversions was not a dealer!) So these days most of our out of country business comes from Germany and France. Very strong clubs in both countries. (and of course Canada)
We are planning many new parts for these cars and always starting with the body as I have always said. "if you have no body you have no car" The specific parts are company secret as we know what is needed in the market and don't want to give it away.

Posted by: 736conver May 2 2008, 12:54 PM

Ah these are questions for the radio show.
I believe Jake is looking for questions not for you to answer them here but on his show.

Posted by: zymurgist May 2 2008, 01:05 PM

How about electrical parts, new or refurbishments? I'm thinking along the lines of fuel injection items such as TPS's.

Posted by: E-Man May 2 2008, 01:10 PM

Thanks anyway George! I might miss the show. Jake: Ask anyway. You never know where the conversation can lead.

OT: I learned to drive in fields on a Farmall tractor; Dad taught me road driving in a '68 VW Microbus (2nd one he owned, first was '59); day after I got my license I drove thru the garage door (Dad in passenger seat; another story altogether).

Go with your gut and fun with it.

Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com May 2 2008, 01:57 PM

yes yes yes! You are on the money here 2.0 tps!

Posted by: Joe Mama May 2 2008, 02:25 PM

Esplain dis, Lucy.....

http://motor.etax.dor.ga.gov/motor/titles/index.asp

Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com May 2 2008, 02:43 PM

ainta no title on cars 85 and older Charlie Brown! 86 and up only In fact Georgia had no title law at all until 1964. I own four 356 models, three are worth 90 grand plus one 75 plus and only have registrations NO TITLES!!!!!!! One has to guard these old non title cars here in Georgia with his life.

Posted by: veltror May 2 2008, 03:51 PM

We are paying 8.32 dollars per us gallon her in the UK, you have a lot further to go before you can start complaining... trust me....

R

Posted by: 736conver May 2 2008, 04:03 PM

Not to get even further into hijacking this thread but your paying for the NHS with that extra taxation. Not really comparing apples to apples.

Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com May 2 2008, 04:10 PM

We are probably not complaining but worrying about running out of oil. I truly believe that if Saudi Arabia said one day that they would not sell us oil any more, we would instantly invade the country (not to hijack the thread about the dirty bastard selling numberless bodies!)

Posted by: jsayre914 May 2 2008, 04:18 PM

I like your humor george

Posted by: TROJANMAN May 2 2008, 04:18 PM

That's not entirely true, but I have grown tired of this conversation..........

Posted by: rdauenhauer May 2 2008, 04:43 PM

To continue this hijack of a hijack:
Thats pretty weak! Call someone a liar
then bail before backing up your argument.

R.

Posted by: Eric_Shea May 2 2008, 04:45 PM

Me too

I think it's the "bodiless numbers" he had for sale on the Internet we're more worried about than the rusted POS shell.

Posted by: Phoenix 914-6GT May 2 2008, 04:53 PM

Why would we do that? There are many other contries that have oil... including our own. I think it is just a matter of time before India and China's opperations are up to full capacity as well.

Posted by: TROJANMAN May 2 2008, 05:04 PM

I didn't call him a liar, but what he said is only half true.
There are statutes on the books that say otherwise.
Some of them are posted in the other thread that talks about him selling VIN numbers without cars

Posted by: Joe Mama May 3 2008, 12:31 AM

I'm not talking about a title....I'm talking about putting a FACTORY VIN on another car...and then selling said car as a street legal, allegedly from the factory original car. You simply can't legally do it.

A stolen car, a theft recovery, a wrecked/salvaged car that is rebuilt gets a new VIN from the State....a STATE generated VIN, not one that identifies it being direct from the manufacturer. Just like the sticker from DMV my crappy fake Speedster has.

The State inspects it, you provide a brake and headlight certificate and it gets back on the road....some States even exempt you from smog. CA issues 500 a year, I stood in line and got #348 at 8:10 am on January 2nd....

IF A TITLE is issued it's stamped as being a homebuilt, rebuilt, salvage, reclamation, or a one eyed trouser trout.....if no title is issued, you at least get a registration that describes what it is.

If THAT's not the case, then that State you live in should have more cousins marrying each other.....because it sure can't get any more retarded.....

Posted by: Sam Charters May 3 2008, 01:27 AM

To try and apply California logic to what go on in the southern states will never work, do not even try.

My Question for George is How many of these cars are going over to other countries each year and if so which ones?

Slits, the answer to your question is; that car is in the process of restoration.

Posted by: Phoenix 914-6GT May 3 2008, 01:39 AM

I'd really like to know just how many 914-6s are not on their original chasis.

Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com May 3 2008, 01:16 PM

I am sure way too many and more in the future. Way too many were scrapped within five years of manufacture (ask Otto he will tell you a sad story about a number of new 914-6s in California scrapped when virtually new) and now that they are very valuable, all of the scrap numbers and old titles are coming out of the woodwork as people saved them to remember the car (like collecting old license plates) I have had several people call me in the last months about the number plates that they saved from their sixes wanting to know how much they were worth to sell on the open market! Many Germans want them.
Like any old car that becomes valuable, it becomes worth restoring it and if one has the number plates and title they can reconstruct the car, and have a rebuilt clone of the original. As I said before these cars will never never be worth what an original unmolested car would be worth but at least the history and essence of the car has been preserved. The Italians have a massive program going on over there of buying and reconstructing old 356 models from a virtual scrap piece of the original car as long as they have the numbers and the title. Here in the U.S. we could NEVER afford such a massive restoration but they employ ex Soviet aerospace workers who are highly skilled and can fabricate amazingly perfect restoration parts. Then they sell the finished cars to Germans who want one of the fatherland cars in their garages. By so doing the Italians are resurrecting these long lost cars and preserving the marque.
In the future I am sure as the prices of 914-4s go up in value and the cars become scarcer, it will then become economical for shops to buy real rats and bring them back to life.
We used to strip and cut up old 914 hulks and put the parts on the shelf. No more! We have preserved every scrap 914 we have purchased for the last ten years hoping someone will step up, buy the hulk and restore it.

Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com May 3 2008, 01:24 PM

Good point. It is all in the intent. If the intent is to deceive then it is obviously illegal and anyone who does it should be prosecuted to the fullest intent of the law. Plus these cheaters are just trying to make a fast buck by deception. There were many many people duped into buying poorly rebuilt and salvaged cars in the past but thankfully the laws have tightened to get rid of unscrupulous rebuilders and retailers who handled such cars. Here once a car is rebuilt (has to be by a licensed rebuilder) and inspected, if it requires a title, a new one is issued and if the damage was not bad or the car was a theft recovery the title will not reflect the rebuilt. If a flooder or heavily rebuilt the title will be stamped rebuilt. This eliminates any deception, and the car will remain on car fax as having been salvaged.
For an older car that requires no title there is no inspection process at all as the state figures older cars are not worth repairing, so these can slip through the cracks.

Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com May 3 2008, 01:29 PM

The capacity is not there to support our economy. If the Saudis stopped selling us oil there would be massive lines at the pump and gas would go up to ten dollars a gallon, just because there would be no substitute supply. We are THAT dependent on foreign oil, AND we are running out of it. Please remember it is not just filling up at the pump it is the whole chemical industry! Everything from plastics to clothing to even the food we eat. All are dependent on crude. Stop the flow our economy is wrecked. The government will not let that happen. Why do you think we invaded Iraq?

Posted by: Eric_Shea May 3 2008, 02:04 PM

You are getting very sleepy. Concentrate on the watch. Feel your eyes getting heavier and heavier...



OK... now; remember, it's all in the intent, it's all in the intent. I'm the good guy. I'm trying to save poor rusted hulks. I'm trying to preserve the ever so loved 914 and 914-6.

When I snap my fingers you will wake up and feel a tremendous love for me. You will honor and obey me. I "am" Dr. 914. The savior of the 914 and the 914-6. I was offering a title and VIN numbers off a long crushed 914-6 for the good of the community... for the good of the car. I am good. God is good.

***SNAP***

OK George, I've self admittedly gone a bit overboard here but the facts are the facts:

This week you openly offered the VIN numbers and a good title to said VIN numbers for $500.00 in an eBay ad for an extremely trashed POS tub which you had also cut the VIN numbers out of... they must have been sold already otherwise they'd be offered for sale with the tub. If anyone knows how many 914-6's have been cloned, my bet is; you would know the answer.

It's obvious that you're far away from a "Come-to-Jesus" moment that this practice of cutting out 914-6 VIN's and placing them on "other" tubs is W-R-O-N-G wrong, so begins the tap dancing session of "it's all in the intent" and "I'm a licensed rebuilder" and "I turn in car thieves".

You are "never" going to convince me that this act is of honorable "intent". You're never going to convince me that this is anything but "deceit".

Do you honestly think that rusted hulk you were intent on selling along with another cars VIN numbers would have been stamped "rebuilt" or "salvaged"?

What is your duty in all this as the good Dr. overseeing all things 914? Would you have followed through after the sale to make sure it was rebuilt properly -or- might you have simply dumped those VIN's in a padded envelope and sent them to the John Doe buyer who very well may be the "unscrupulous rebuilder and retailer" that the government so "thankfully" tightened the laws down on? Think about it; you were offering for sale the tools to get a salvaged car a clean title.

That makes you one of them in my book... and it's a sad day.

Tap dance all you want but, I'm extremely disappointed in you and the fact that you're still here trying to explain away your righteousness on this extremely WRONG act.

Bummer.

Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com May 3 2008, 02:11 PM

If I can be an enabler and encourage someone to spend tens of thousands to restore a piece of Porsche history more power to me and more so to the guy who sacrifices great time and MONEY to do it. Let us clear our heads here and see what is really happening and not what we ASSUME to be happening. NO ONE is going to steal a 914-6 and switch serial numbers. It is just not going to happen.
By the way, I think that I have another six body up the street if anyone is interested in taking it on. (along with a hundred of its four cylinder brothers

Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com May 3 2008, 02:11 PM

Nice graphics by the way, Eric you really know your way around the computer!!!

Posted by: swood May 3 2008, 02:22 PM

Actually we get more oil from our neighbors to the north than SA, so let's not piss off the Canadians...well...not anymore than we really have to...

Posted by: dw914er May 3 2008, 02:26 PM

we would def. do something. Not to hijack the tread, but we didnt invade iraq just for oil. One of the key issues with iraq is that if you can fix iraq, and can fix the middle east. Iraq reflects the difference sects in the area, the sunni's. the shites, and the kurds in the north. Its the whole middle east struggle, in one 'neat package.' The 9/11 happened, so it was easy for the neo-cons to help make the war seem neccessary. Iraq though is a political nightmare. After the weapons of mass destruction fell, no one 'really' knows why we are there, just now is what should we do to fix the problem (ie 'should i stay or should i go?')

But yes, we would probably just go after oil. I do like our 'democratic pro-green' and its efforts on biofuels. They actually are worse for the world becasue 1) use more gas to make it 2) converts prime ag land to corn which diminshes our food supply and also corn is hell on most land, eating all the nutrients, and fast.

so why do they support it? First primary was in the state that grew corn!!!!


anyways, back on topic.

though george, isnt this tread for jake, when he asks the questions to you on air? lol

Posted by: Thomas J Bliznik May 3 2008, 02:35 PM

Hi George,

I just tuned into this thread without reading all the back BS

My question is about original 914's.

What percent of 914's out there have original paint??

What percent of 914's out there have less than 50K miles??

Will original 914's outperform modified 914's in future value??

Lastly (off subject) did you every purchase "Mary's 32K orig. miles 914 I told you about last year"????? I think it's still in 15-year plus storage?? Just wondering.

Tom

Posted by: 736conver May 3 2008, 02:36 PM

Whoever talked about stealing a 914-6. Are you actually reading what is being typed.

If someone wanted to actually restore a 914-6 for themselves, and get the pride and joy out of it they would do it legit.

If someone wanted to scam someone and make money they would by your vin and title and slap it on a non 6 car.

Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com May 3 2008, 02:42 PM

Hi Tom. Yes we have a deal with Mary when we can get up there to pick it up. Waiting for reasonable transportation
As far as the original 914s, according to our records, 15% of the cars we list have original paint and 2% have less than 50 k miles

An original 914 will outperform any other in value, and an original 1976 914-4 will in the future even outperform a non original restored six!

Posted by: Thomas J Bliznik May 3 2008, 02:48 PM

Great news George,

I recently went by the bldg. & the big door still looks sealed. It's a rust free beauty waiting to see the light after many years in storage. Don't wait too long George.

Tom


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Posted by: Pat Garvey May 3 2008, 06:45 PM

Right on!!

Most of our oil comes from Canada - not SA!

Posted by: Pat Garvey May 3 2008, 07:42 PM

My first trip to AA was in 1994. It was Friday when I arrived (my wife was giving a 6 week seminar). George led me aroung like he was my brother. Got thoe entire tour.

Bought some stuff.

Came back on a Sunday 3 weeks later. No one there, and I could have stolen whatever I needed, but it was still a treat.

Through the years I've bought a lot of things from AA, all hardparts. Everything was delivered as described - NO complaints! Yeah, a couple of things were backordered, but we're talking about ancient cars. And I never put myself in the position of needing things immediately, because I'm a parts whore.

Unlike many, I have zero issues with AA. I'm not on the payrol, either. I'm OKI with George.

Now, with that said, (and relevant to the topic) I do have a question:

I need to replace just about every electrical boot on my motor top. How can I do this without cutting wires & resoldering. I know it can be done, because I did it in the late 80's. Don't remember how I did it.

Also, can we please have the posts & answers re-posted here, because I'll be on a much needed vacation during the Podcast?

Pat

Posted by: ConeDodger May 3 2008, 10:49 PM

What? You don't get it??? Do we have to go all Revolution on your ass again?

We'll complain at any price point we want... That is the essense of being American!

Seriously??? You guys are paying double + what we are for gas??? That really sucks dude. Is anyone driving for fun at that price?

Posted by: Thomas J Bliznik May 4 2008, 08:41 AM

An original 914 will outperform any other in value, and an original 1976 914-4 will in the future even outperform a non original restored six!
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George,

Why do think the 76 914-4 will be a future high dollar value over a non-original six?? I know the 76 is the last year 914 with low production figures & all have 2.0 liter engines, but they have ugly bumpers. In my opinion the 2.0 liter 73-74 914-4 will always be the top value $$ 914 in 4-cyl cars.

Another Question:
What is the most desirable rare factory/dealer accessories?? Give us at least (3) of your top picks.
Rear Fog Light (for Eric & myself)?
Wheels?
A.C.?
Radio?
Console?
Tinted Glass?
Heated Rear Glass window?
Tool Kit?
Sarattoga Top?
Trunk Rack?
Etc.?

Need to know so some of us can collect it.

Tom

Posted by: johannes May 4 2008, 08:59 AM

8.50 + $ for the gallon in Euroland. But fortunatelly the $ VS € rate is now better for us ( 5.50 € / Gallon ).

Yes we still drive for fun.

Pictures I took this morning !...

http://johannes.roussel.free.fr/images/cols_vosgiens_2008/thumb.html

Posted by: zymurgist May 4 2008, 09:07 AM

Those were some awesome cars! I liked the green 911 (mine is like that but smaller flares in the rear, and Mexico Blue) and the Corvette (that car has a big block hood, if that motor is a big block you know it costs a lot to run).

Posted by: Jake Raby May 5 2008, 10:59 AM

Damn, this one got seriously off topic!! I'll wade through these posts and grab some questions for the Dr. and go from there.

George, We'll be recording the show next week.. I'll be in touch via email with the details..

Posted by: ericread May 5 2008, 11:08 AM

Oh, good question. I keep hearing about teeners being purchased and shipped overseas, but how prevelent is that? George and Jake; have you seen a big blip in business from overseas owners? And if this is true, how is that affecting the valuation of our cars.

One more question. Which do you think will climb in value the most; A moderately stock 914 or one that has been updated with six-cylinder engines and flares? For future valuation purposes, is it better that I keep my 75 2.0L 914 mostly stock?

Thanks!

Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com May 5 2008, 11:50 AM

Many many are now going overseas three reasons: 914s are more popular than ever before very few were sold in Europe compared the the U.S. and all of the euro cars rusted away, and finally the exchange rate! We are doing a lot of business in Europe with the parts actually for all of the older Porsche models. It helps that Mia speaks German French Dutch and Flemish (as well as English...(too bad that she does not speak Spanish!!))

Always keep the 914 as stock as possible for the highest future value. (that does not mean that you can bolt on fun parts to more enjoy your car like wheels tires a radio some mats and a steering wheel, but keep all of the originals.

Posted by: Cevan May 5 2008, 01:03 PM

In terms of future value, how might the backdating of '75 bumpers to chromies impact it?

Posted by: championgt1 May 5 2008, 02:00 PM

According to this site there were 5597 2.0 cars built in 1974. Is there anyway to tell how many of each color rolled off the assembly line?

My car is Olympic blue and it would be nice to know how many were produced in this color.

Posted by: SLITS May 5 2008, 02:03 PM

Answer this question:

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=83590

He bought the stuff from you .................

Posted by: LvSteveH May 5 2008, 03:02 PM

I could be wrong, but I believe they are referring to AA brand pistons as opposed to being purchased from Auto Atlanta.

Posted by: SLITS May 5 2008, 04:06 PM

AA ... hmmmm .... turn 'em upside down, they all look the same to me.

Posted by: Rand May 5 2008, 06:58 PM

How is it possible they could even conceive of putting the words "rust free" in http://autoatlanta.com/carsales/904/12345/12345.html?

edit: Dangit, I gotta stop posting in these threads.

Posted by: SLITS May 5 2008, 07:20 PM

As Clinton once said, "It depends upon what your definition of sex rust is."

Nothing more need be said.

Posted by: TROJANMAN May 5 2008, 08:49 PM

(Subject to approved credit. VIN tags may not match vehicle at time of sale)

Posted by: Joe Mama May 5 2008, 08:54 PM

I think this thread just blew any future 914 world price discount.....

Posted by: Eric_Shea May 5 2008, 09:05 PM

Posted by: WaideS May 6 2008, 02:59 PM

Eric Shea, they said you were funny, but I didn't believe them.....I stand corrected

Posted by: 736conver May 6 2008, 03:06 PM

Thats got to go on the cover of their catalog.

Posted by: grantsfo May 6 2008, 03:38 PM

Jake, Are you lowering your standards again? Why tarnish your brand image by having any association with AA? Nothing like diluting you premium image? Whats next a 4 verses 6 discussion with Motormeister?

Posted by: Jake Raby May 6 2008, 04:03 PM

I have no need to justify my decision to have George on my Radio show.. he is simply a guest that is passionate about these cars and keeping them on the road.. Thats all I give a shit about.

Passionate people that are willing to spend their money to keep these cars on the road are hard to come by..

Just because Jay Leno has someone on his show thats controversial doesn't lower his standards any more than having george on my show will lower mine...

Posted by: grantsfo May 6 2008, 06:03 PM

Thats not my expereince. And think you might find a differing opinion from several of the shops in the SF Bay region that work on 914's regularly. Tons of very nice 914's here on the West Coast that people are putting some decent money into. It always suprises me when I stop into shops here and see so many nice well maintained 914's. I think we had 14 914's show up to an AX earlier this spring!

I think if you were to be local and trusted in SF Bay Area you would have booming 914 engine business. Lots of people here who never go on the forums with very nice 914's with thousands of dollars invested with local shops. I know of 5 fairly expensive 914-6 conversions going on here in the Bay Area right now. We even have a couple Raby powered cars showing up to events now when they are running.

I think you underestimate the enthusiasm and williness to spend money that the larger offline 914 community has - you just need to figure out how to reach that market better.

Posted by: Jake Raby May 6 2008, 07:12 PM

You'll see how I am reaching "Those people" soon.. But we can't keep up with what we have now and I damn sure don't want an left coast division of RAT...

I am perfectly happy exactly where we are in every regard... Trying to slow down the engine shop is currently my overall goal..

Posted by: ConeDodger May 6 2008, 07:33 PM

Jake,
I find George's statement that the 3.0 liter motor is the best conversion engine for the 914 interesting. Can you ask him to expand on this statement. Obviously context confounds. Is he speaking of a street car with a stockish 901?

I have ridden in a 3.6 conversion and the sensation of rocket ship could not be denied. This was very much a street car with all the creature comforts except AC.

What is it about the 3.0 that makes George think it is best? I am not challenging him I just want to know why. My 3.2 Carrera really wakes up just over 4k RPM. I wonder if that would be a detriment in a 914. I have never ridden or driven a 3.0 powered car so I am not familiar with the engines character.

Posted by: flippa May 6 2008, 07:43 PM

"rust free" = no additional charge for all that rust

Posted by: dw914er May 6 2008, 08:42 PM

3.0s make alot of power, and pretty reliable. Also, the bigger motors like the 3.6 need a whole different tranny set up, instead of the 901.

Buddy of mine has it (3.0) in his 914-6, and it is sensational. I think the riverside region pca pres has the 3.6 conversion, but he had to do alot more to his car to make it compatable.

I assume this is why george said that the 3.0 is probably the best overall 6 conversion (though i could be wrong)

Posted by: zymurgist May 6 2008, 09:13 PM

From my recent reading, the 3.0 motors are darn near bulletproof. Replace the CIS with carbs and they really scream.

/still loving the 2.4 MFI though

Posted by: MoveQik May 6 2008, 09:21 PM

From what I hear, the 3.2's do ok powerwise and they bolt right up to the 901.

Posted by: Eric_Shea May 6 2008, 10:17 PM

Ohhhhh... don't start "coverboy"

Posted by: MoveQik May 6 2008, 10:48 PM

You like me....you really like me - Sally Field

Posted by: Eric_Shea May 6 2008, 11:14 PM

Well... you are handsome, albeit difficult to deal with.

Posted by: r_towle May 6 2008, 11:58 PM

George,
Are you serious???

"Thanks for the question: We are currently overhauling the website and really have our hands full now. The 914 catalog mailing was fabulously successful (I hesitated printing and mailing until I talked to a mentor of mine Mike Yeager at Mid America, who pounded it into me that car people are all not just exclusively on the internet)"


Rich

Posted by: TROJANMAN May 7 2008, 12:45 AM

I think "fit" is the issue with the 3.2
A 3.0 is a cleaner fit. Plus it does not put as much wear on the 901.

BTW, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZl3gGV4H6c

Posted by: 736conver May 7 2008, 02:13 AM

Close but she really said.

...."you like me, right now, you like me"

Often misquoted

Posted by: Eric_Shea May 7 2008, 11:48 AM

I could have him banned and stripped of his coverboy status...

Posted by: MoveQik May 7 2008, 02:01 PM

Damn...get banned for a misquote? After I was SO careful not to do any name calling in this thread. Not that name calling is deserved of course....I'm jus' sayin'.

Posted by: Sleepin May 7 2008, 08:52 PM

Posted by: Jake Raby May 13 2008, 01:46 PM

I'll be interviewing George on Thursday.. Last chance to have the Dr. answer your questions!! Post them here by the end of the day, today!

Posted by: blitZ May 13 2008, 01:58 PM

I would like to hear how George came into possession of the 916 and what his futures plans are for it.

Posted by: Jake Raby May 13 2008, 02:05 PM

Good question! I'll add that to my list!

Posted by: SGB May 13 2008, 02:43 PM

I want you to ask:
1. What compelled him to start a business for the bastard Porsche to begin with? Did he buy the contents of the warehouse in Germany?
2. Are 914 customers different than the other parts purchaser?
3. This may hurt, but is AA's "reputation" accurate? In other words, is it part of the business plan to be, um, "assured and assertive"? It works for a lot of corporate America.

Posted by: rdauenhauer May 13 2008, 09:41 PM

how about what % of his 914 customer base is overseas and are those customers materialy differant that US customers in any way?