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Posted by: turboman808 Jun 9 2008, 11:17 PM

Well the smashed front end look works for me.

Chris didn't seem to think so. So he is repairing it.



I'm real excited to see it on the road again.

Posted by: Smitty911 Jun 10 2008, 02:31 AM

First rule of the road, Use you own brakes not the cars in front of you.

Been there done that. Normally expensive.

Let see it when the body is done.

Smitty

Posted by: Spoke Jun 10 2008, 06:29 AM

That should buff right out.

Posted by: SGB Jun 10 2008, 07:09 AM

KUSTOM!

Posted by: Vacca Rabite Jun 10 2008, 07:17 AM

This is what happens when you paint cartoon eyes on your windshield and can't see out!



Zach

Posted by: Sparky Jun 10 2008, 07:32 AM

Dude, now you know why DaveC named that car Cecilia, it just keeps breaking your heart!! It's still real pretty and I'm sure Chris will bring her back!

Keep us posted,
Mike D.

Posted by: davec Jun 10 2008, 08:00 AM

I thought it was named after that girl with the huge bazongas!

What happened Turboman? Is that being repaired by Chris at Tangerine Racing?

Posted by: turboman808 Jun 10 2008, 12:28 PM

Yeah Chris is fixing it. Lord knows I can't fix it.

Posted by: Racer Chris Jun 10 2008, 01:37 PM

Actually Ed is responsible for most of the progress so far.

First day:


Today:

Posted by: turboman808 Jun 10 2008, 01:52 PM

THats awesome

Posted by: jmill Jun 10 2008, 02:03 PM

The repair looks good so far.

Chris, do you have any pictures of a front corner repair that includes the inner fender. I've got to replace my passenger side corner and want to see how the experts do it.

Posted by: Racer Chris Jun 10 2008, 02:24 PM

This is the closest thing I have. I just welded this piece on my race car a couple weeks ago.



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Posted by: jmill Jun 11 2008, 08:17 AM

Thanks that helps. I've got to patch up my front corner and was wondering where to cut. Mine needs a similar repair. I might have to bring it to the door pillar. The door is tight when I close it.


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Posted by: Racer Chris Jun 11 2008, 08:59 AM

I suggest completely removing the fender by drilling out the spot welds.
Then you can repair the inner fender/floor/front panel. While the fender is off, do whatever metal repairs are needed to it. Then reattach and paint.

Posted by: jmill Jun 11 2008, 09:25 AM

Will do. thanks for the advice. The only concern I have is getting the front suspension points lined up right. I'll have to fab up a jig so everything lines up square. The forward mount for the front control arm is tweaked up about an inch and a half. It looks like Turboman's damage didn't affect the suspension geometry.

Posted by: r_towle Jun 11 2008, 09:30 AM

It does not look like the front strut tower was moved...

I would suggest that you replace only what is needed. That is alot easier to line up thing.

If the whole fender was pushed, take it off. The rear of the fender is attached to the same piece of sheet metal that the hinges are attached to...could be the issue.

Rich

Posted by: jmill Jun 11 2008, 10:19 AM

I'm hoping it's just preloaded and when I straighten it out the door will fit nice. All the door lines seem to match up real well. It just seems that the door is an 1/8 too big. I can hear some metal to metal contact in the door lock area when I close it. The door requires a bit more force to close because of this. Is there a way to adjust the door locks that I'm not seeing?

It doesn't need much. Just a tad to stop it from hanging up in the door lock.

Posted by: Racer Chris Jun 11 2008, 04:40 PM

We bolted my jig up to Turboman's car today. It looks like the mount is still in the proper location.


Repair pieces are nearly ready to weld in place.


Fenders with turn signal openings are going on next.

Posted by: Racer Chris Jun 11 2008, 04:44 PM

When the 4 screws that hold the strike plate to the door jamb are loosened, the plate should move around a little bit. It may be corroded in place though. IIRC the part on the door is not adjustable.

Posted by: turboman808 Jun 11 2008, 06:05 PM

Looking really good. I don't think Dave was to happy about me wanting to go back the the stock fenders over the slant nose fenders. But really once you finish he might change his mind.

Thanks for doing what I imagine in my mind.

Posted by: i love porsche Jun 11 2008, 07:05 PM

wow..i havent seen that car in FOREVER

glad to see you are going back to the stock nose, i have to say i like it better

Posted by: jmill Jun 12 2008, 08:53 AM

The repairs look great. Thanks for posting pictures of the progress and your jig. It's good to see how to do it the right way. I don't wish this kind of damage on anyone, but it did come at a good time for me to see (sorry Turboman). I like your jig but I'll have to make one with more reference points. The damage I have is a bit more extensive. I'm sure when I dive into it I'll have a bunch of questions.

Posted by: Racer Chris Jun 12 2008, 10:07 AM

I made the jig from a straight car, years ago. If the other side isn't damaged it aligns very nicely. The only other thing I do is measure the fore-aft position of the mount by running a tape measure back to the crossbar pickup on the chassis.

Posted by: Jeff Hail Jun 12 2008, 10:17 AM

My my would you look at the size of that thing? Bigger is better. The fresh air system! (Foley Ram Induction) How in the world did you run that all the way to the back of the car? Air cooled is an understatement.

Posted by: turboman808 Jun 13 2008, 01:15 PM

Posted by: Racer Chris Jun 13 2008, 04:26 PM

Posted by: rmital Jun 13 2008, 05:08 PM

hey Nate...looking forward to you getting your wheels back. Hopefully we could arrange a group meet/drive once you do.

Posted by: turboman808 Jun 13 2008, 05:24 PM

Yeah are there any 914s left in NJ LOL

I'm going down to Gotham Dream Car tomorrow afternoon for there open house then The Whiskey Cafe. Don't plan to be at either one very long though. If you want to see cars none of us car afford Gotham Dream car is the place to go.

http://www.gothamdreamcars.com/


Oh I forgot to post pictures but they had the new Ferrari(the front engine one) and a Maserati MC12 up the street Wednesday night.

Posted by: i love porsche Jun 13 2008, 05:51 PM

maybe ill see you at the whiskey cafe tomorrow nate

the paychecks will start rolling in soon, and i spent the entire drive home today thinking about what im gonna do with the 914...

Posted by: turboman808 Jun 13 2008, 11:06 PM

Cool you gonna work on it at Movie Time. Haven't been there in over a year.

Posted by: rmital Jun 14 2008, 08:01 AM

you guys give me a date you'd like to wrench...I'll arrange it.

Posted by: Racer Chris Jun 16 2008, 10:53 AM

Nathan, call me!

Posted by: i love porsche Jun 16 2008, 01:35 PM

ok..im drooling over that front end, i think im more excited than nate to see this car finished

Posted by: turboman808 Jun 16 2008, 01:52 PM

I doubt that. I really want to get this on the road so the cops can finally take my license for good LOL

Called Chris and from the picture I kinda new what he was gonna tell me. The fiberglass lids fit for shit. Sticking with steel.

Posted by: i love porsche Jun 16 2008, 01:58 PM

what are you doing for headlights?

Posted by: turboman808 Jun 16 2008, 02:25 PM

We don't need no stinking headlights

I have an idea, I got the parts needed to do that idea. Then I handed them to Chris in hopes that it will work.

Posted by: i love porsche Jun 16 2008, 03:17 PM

turn signal headlights?

Posted by: turboman808 Jun 16 2008, 03:51 PM

Yeah thats what I am hoping for

Posted by: Racer Chris Jun 16 2008, 04:05 PM

The only problem with the headlights you supplied is that they are fog lights and have no hi-beams. That doesn't really bother me but hopefully it won't bother a NJ state inspector.

Posted by: rmital Jun 16 2008, 04:11 PM

NJ inspectors are so forgiving..... I'm sure they'll understand.

Posted by: Eric_Shea Jun 16 2008, 04:13 PM

I am

Great work guys.

Posted by: turboman808 Jun 16 2008, 04:17 PM

It will pass

Car doesn't have an emergency brake or speedometer either. Those I would like to remedy later on.

Oh I was also going to get historic plates for it. I was under the impression that with historic plates you don't need to get it inspected. Could be wrong.


But I am sure Ray can get me a inspection sticker.
http://www.state.nj.us/mvc/Inspections/VehiclesExempt.htm

Posted by: i love porsche Jun 16 2008, 05:14 PM

go to a private inspector...it helps if you know them

Posted by: rmital Jun 17 2008, 07:15 AM

no inspection needed with historic plates...but you will, "technically", be limited with you mileage. But having known you for a short period of time, I don't expect that that would slow you down.

Posted by: turboman808 Jun 17 2008, 05:05 PM

I really don't drive much anymore so it won't be an issue. I've only driven the solstice 3000 miles this year.

Posted by: Racer Chris Jun 17 2008, 06:22 PM

Part of today's progress toward your special headlights:



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Posted by: turboman808 Jun 17 2008, 08:25 PM

Awesome work

Posted by: Eric_Shea Jun 17 2008, 11:14 PM

I gotta say it again (hope not to offend). I'm way happy this car is getting fenders again. It looks great.

Posted by: Racer Chris Jun 23 2008, 12:25 PM

More progress pics.
The new wing looks really rrrrnice.
Here's the high downforce position:


and the city streets cruising position:


We got the new tires mounted and started widening the rear a little more:


It figures the previous flares were done crudely and couldn't take even a little stretching without tearing wide open. So we will add some new metal:

Posted by: turboman808 Jun 23 2008, 01:01 PM

Still not sure about the wing but eh see what happens.

Maybe it's just those winglets. I will replace them withsomething else and see if that works.

Posted by: Travis Neff Jun 23 2008, 01:04 PM

lookin good. The wing looks like it is on backwards?

Posted by: turboman808 Jun 23 2008, 01:10 PM

Hey Chris leave the wing off. The more I look at it the stupider it gets.

I should have got a duck bill like god intended

Posted by: i love porsche Jun 23 2008, 01:14 PM

ehh..i cant say im liking the wing

Posted by: turboman808 Jun 23 2008, 01:16 PM

Well it looked great in the garage hanging on the wall.

Posted by: Racer Chris Jun 23 2008, 02:50 PM

If the endplates were a different shape it might be fine but they make the wing look like it is on backwards as they are.
We already filled 4 holes from the old wing. We'll just fill the 8 new holes.

Posted by: Racer Chris Jun 23 2008, 02:53 PM

Maybe the designer knows something about aerodynamics that the rest of the world missed, and we put it on wrong.

Posted by: turboman808 Jun 23 2008, 03:12 PM

HAHA sorry. But yeah it does look weird. I'll bring some racing DVDs next time I come.

I should have just got the right wing for the car to begin with.

Posted by: Racer Chris Jun 23 2008, 04:35 PM

Before I permanently delete the wing option I think I'll mount it one more time at a low downforce angle and see if I can come up with an end plate shape that works. The curvature of the wing is similar to the curve at the edge of the decklid.

Posted by: Travis Neff Jun 23 2008, 04:52 PM

Reference why I think the wing is on backwards.


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Posted by: turboman808 Jun 23 2008, 05:16 PM

The second picture he has it on backwards as a joke. The first picture it is on correctly. Looking at the side plates though it does look wrong. I think they just must have drilled the side plates incorrectly or something.

Well Chris I am curious what you come up with.

Posted by: PanelBilly Jun 23 2008, 05:20 PM

I think it need to be mounted on longer supports so its higher off the trunk. Like a superbird or datona charger.

Posted by: Racer Chris Jun 23 2008, 05:41 PM

I didn't turn it around, just angled it back. The end plates make it look backwards, since they look better with the wing tilted that way. Its like the mfr didn't realize which way the airflow is supposed go across a wing.

Posted by: Racer Chris Jun 23 2008, 05:43 PM

That would put it up in free air and provide the best downforce. I'm not sure how good it would look on a street car though.

Posted by: PanelBilly Jun 23 2008, 05:46 PM

Downforce????, I thought it was a pushbar.

Posted by: turboman808 Jun 23 2008, 05:54 PM

Well I can always go with a Sheridan wing which was what I was gonna do originaly. What to DO???

Posted by: turboman808 Jul 18 2008, 02:55 PM

anything new

Posted by: Racer Chris Oct 1 2008, 05:56 PM

I know its been a while, but we are making significant progress this week.

Here are some quick pics.
Stainless bumper bracket:


both fenders are tacked on, should be fully welded later this week:


The rear flare mod/repair is going well, patches on both sides should be fully tacked this week. The flares were formed very poorly by the last bodyworker. In some places the welds were cracked under the bondo, even before we started stretching the metal. Instead of trying to form the patch in one piece we opted for 3 pieces for ease of forming. They will be TIG welded in place:

Posted by: turboman808 Oct 1 2008, 07:47 PM

Looks good. Really want to go for a drive...

I did have this dream lately of British racing green. Hmmm...

Posted by: Racer Chris Oct 2 2008, 06:10 PM

More progress today.
The thickness of filler on the old flares approaches 3/16" over wide areas.
Had I know this in advance I may have just cut them completely off at the start.



The left side is fully welded. The welds will be ground down, hammered, and sanded smooth. After that, some hammer and dolly work combined with careful shrinking of high spots will produce a uniform surface. Except for a few low spots that we can't reach from behind with our tools, the filler requirement will be down to 1/16" or less.

Posted by: RJMII Oct 2 2008, 07:40 PM

WIth some of the HID setups I was looking at, the bulb changes position at the flick of the dimmer switch.

Posted by: turboman808 Oct 3 2008, 10:05 AM

There are a few ways to solve this problem I have seen. The problem is I don't really see it as much of a problem. Unless I plan to take some back country road at 80 mph at 3am there is never gonna be a instance where I was really wishing I had more light.

On the BMW HID lights I was looking at the flap that gives you that cut off line flips up to give you the brights. So it's possible to do something like that.

They also make HID H4 bulbs like you mentioned which would just be a matter of taking the existing bulb and cutting it to fit.


Either one would be nice to do but not a serious matter. It would be cool if someone made a kit to do this. I imagine sine you would have to delete the stock lights it wouldn't be a very popular kit to make.

Posted by: RJMII Oct 3 2008, 09:40 PM

I'm wanting to cut out my headlight buckets to put radaitors there (boxster style), so I've been looking at projectors for the Ovals.

which projectors are you going with?

Posted by: Racer Chris Oct 7 2008, 05:52 PM

Here's what the right rear looks like with a tire. There's a little more shape adjustment to do and the rears are done. You have about another inch available to the outside for even more tire now.



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Posted by: turboman808 Oct 7 2008, 08:57 PM

awesome Chris. I like how you got rid of the lip.

To add to that I think the way you did the fenders almost makes the car look like you took it back another decade and made it more 60s then 70s.

Posted by: Racer Chris Nov 10 2008, 07:26 PM

Posted by: r_towle Nov 10 2008, 07:42 PM

what make of headlight is that?
part number, where did you get it etc etc.
Rich

Posted by: turboman808 Nov 10 2008, 08:45 PM

I think it's gonna come out pretty cool.

Posted by: yarin Nov 11 2008, 09:44 PM

Excellent Progress!! Whats up Nathan! Glad to see your car is in good hands.

FYI, I moved to Jersey. Hope to stash my 914 here come spring so I can hop over to the meadowlands. I live in Guttenberg now (10 mins from the meadowlands).

Hopefully nothing breaks since I don't have a garage over here. We shall see...

Hope all is well and can't wait to see the car next season!
--Yarin

Posted by: turboman808 Nov 12 2008, 10:39 AM

Hey Yarin long time since I ran into you. Ray could let you into Movie Time I am sure if you need help working on your car. It's a quick drive down rt 3 to Nutley.

Posted by: Root_Werks Nov 12 2008, 11:09 AM

I am glad you're putting the front fenders back to a stock look. Always thought that was a major look of the 914 with the little turnsignals poping up like that. Looks great!

You gonna repaint the same color?

Posted by: rmital Nov 12 2008, 01:26 PM

...just let me know when...I'll make sure the lift is clear.

Posted by: i love porsche Nov 13 2008, 07:26 AM

thats looking amazing, cant wait to see it finished

Posted by: yarin Nov 13 2008, 09:39 PM

Thanks a bunch!

Look forward to seeing you guys this spring!

--Yarin

Posted by: Racer Chris Dec 31 2008, 03:20 PM

Update:

We had some time this week to start forming the front flares and clean up the rear flares a bit more. Also made a couple of wing endplate samples.

This is the best pic I took of the front flares in progress. Unfotunately it doesn't do them justice. They are much more subtle than the rears but have a similar character.


I like the look of the wing much better with this endplate:



This one is the same shape as the originals but is positioned properly. I like the parallelogram above better:

Posted by: Phoenix 914-6GT Dec 31 2008, 04:41 PM

Lookin good Chris. Your work is awesome. So is that wing going to be raised at all?

Posted by: blabla914 Dec 31 2008, 08:35 PM

Chris,

Really nice work, as always. Are you going to have another open house this summer? I actually have both of my crap boxes running. I'm sure if I drive the bug I will have no problem persuading my wife to drive the 914.

Nathan,

Dude I am from NJ. Exit 14A. Born in Plainfield, went to school in Edison, and my parents still live in N. Plainfield so I can make fun of NJ and that wing is SOOOOOOO NJ! Get the right wing. The rest of the car looks great. I also like the stock fenders.

Kelly

Posted by: So.Cal.914 Dec 31 2008, 08:47 PM

I believe it was neo914-6 had some clear lenses made, maybe he has some extras.

Posted by: Racer Chris Dec 31 2008, 10:48 PM

I think thats where it is staying, unless Nathan decides to go without it.


I believe someone is working on an East Coast Ramble (or maybe a Classic, lol) with my shop as the final destination on Sunday.
So, yeah, there's a good chance of it.

Posted by: rmital Jan 6 2009, 04:46 PM

....is Nate's 914 going to be ready for Hershey???

Posted by: turboman808 Jan 6 2009, 07:48 PM

As always love your work Chris.

I think the wing is gonna be very controversial for as long as it's on there. LOL
I had thought about having you guys raise it up but that looks pretty good the way it follows the trunk line.

I do like the parallelogram better. Can it be trimmed and inch or 2 on top? Make it more rectangular then square. Think that would make it fit the car very well. Leave the wing as clear carbon and paint the winglets to match the car.

Oh keep in mind I don't plan on driving is on crappy NYC roads anymore. Gonna try and baby it more so you can lower the car a bit more I think then it was. I am guessing you either raised it up to work the fenders better or it's just looking really high to me.

No pictures with the front mounted yet. Then I would really get an idea of the final result!!!



Ray I doubt I would drive my car to Hershey. I want to keep the car out of the rain and it always rains at Hershey.

I am really pissed about the economy right now. Some CCWs would have really made the car look right.

I live in NJ I am not from NJ. Odd that I swore I would never live in NJ and here I am.

Posted by: Racer Chris Jan 6 2009, 09:30 PM

I'm sure you're right about that. I kind of like it now. I took a nice pic of the car outside last week In the daylight I thought it looked real good. I'll try to post the pic tomorrow, and try some alterations to the endplates as you suggested.

The front lid still isn't finished and I have to smooth out the right fender flare. I'm almost satisfied with the rear flares but some of the old flare welds have cracked as I worked on the shape. What a botched job that was. The car lost 10 lbs just from removing bondo. A layer of jb weld was under the filler, holding the metal together. To call the work amateur would be an insult to most non-professionals.
I've done a lot of dollying, hammering, shrinking and stretching to the rear flares in order to even up the shape and not one inch of Genaro's welds has cracked.

Posted by: Justinp71 Jan 7 2009, 12:01 AM

All I have to say is

Posted by: Racer Chris Jan 7 2009, 08:04 AM

It looked better in person, as you could see it from many angles:




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Posted by: turboman808 Jan 7 2009, 09:49 AM

Sweet almost looks finished!

Posted by: Racer Chris Jan 21 2009, 03:51 PM

Flares are done.




We made a pair of wing endplates from aluminum, with the first parallelogram shape. Nothing else looked any good imo.

We need to mount the turn signals. Previously you had separate running lights and turn signal lights mounted in the fog light area kind of like this:


The motorcycle lights you provided can be mounted here, but nowhere else looks suitable:


Maybe not the most visible, but they look ok there, and I don't much like the old setup.

Posted by: turboman808 Jan 21 2009, 04:17 PM

I was wanting to have them inside the turnsignals below the lights. I picked those because in the bottom of the turnsignal there was a flat spot that looked easy to drill and mount on. Who cares if anyone can see them.

Fenders look great. Wing looks good from the angle I can see.




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Posted by: Racer Chris Jan 21 2009, 04:44 PM

Oh, ok.
I'll look at that tomorrow.

We made some bezels for the clear lenses. I'll try to post a pic of that tomorrow too.

Posted by: ericread Jan 21 2009, 05:46 PM

So seriously, how long has this car been in the shop??? It seems like it's be in here for a couple of years?????

Posted by: Racing916 Jan 21 2009, 06:05 PM

Hi Chris,

I wanted to know if you could tell me where that front bumper/Valance came front. Car is looking great.

Thanks
Steve

Posted by: turboman808 Jan 21 2009, 06:23 PM

Kevin Groot had them made.

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=60885&hl=kevin%20%20groot%20%20splitter&st=0

Posted by: atsealevel914 Jan 21 2009, 08:24 PM

Love this thread.....

Posted by: ChrisNPDrider Jan 21 2009, 11:52 PM

Sweet - when my lotto $$ hits I want to replace my LE front with one of these!
Will this be the first "street 914" to run this front air dam/bumper?
I was thinking it would need 1-2" section cut out to be street-able and not scrape bottom at every driveway in a low 914. Looks great!

Posted by: Phoenix 914-6GT Jan 21 2009, 11:56 PM

I have always wanted one of his fronts in carbon fiber. Someday.


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Posted by: Solo914 Jan 22 2009, 12:12 AM

yes please.... Airdam porn.

Kyle

Posted by: turboman808 Jan 22 2009, 01:38 PM

Yeah if I still lived in NYC I couldn't have that. NJ roads aren't as bad so I should be ok. I wanted the splitter as well but though I might be pushing my luck.

Posted by: charliew Jan 22 2009, 03:01 PM

Are those 10 inch x 17's on the rear? and are the headlights you have legally not too bright and what brand are they? Looks good, for me it's really hard not to get filler 3/16 in spots on that much fabrication in the bottom of the curves and the arc of the fender on the rear, once the guidecoating starts. I'm curious as to how they look under the bottom and do people ever lok there? I'm a under the bottom type of guy.

Posted by: Racer Chris Jan 22 2009, 04:34 PM

We worked on the turn signals some more today.
First we tried your idea:


The turn signal interferes with the headlight a bit, but more importantly:


It looked like some magic smoke started coming out of the new assembly so we shut off the headlight and found that the heat of the headlight melted the plastic turnsignal cover; guess its not really carbon fiber, lol.

So we did the right thing and mounted the running light/turn signal (without the plastic cover) inside the bottom of the light bucket:






Now we have to figure out why the magic smoke is coming out of the light switch on the dash.

Posted by: turboman808 Jan 22 2009, 04:47 PM

And thats why you are the man.
That's gonna look sweet when you are done.

Posted by: r_towle Jan 22 2009, 08:33 PM

Get an amp meter inline Chris...you may need relays...
Bigger wire may also help...but not the light switch.
Rich

Posted by: ejm Jan 22 2009, 09:15 PM

The headlight bulbs are 55 watts so they draw about 4.5 amps, well within the design limits of the stock wiring and switch. The smoke is coming from the dimmer rheostat so it's unrelated to exterior lighting. Somewhere there's a instrument lighting wire that wasn't insulated properly after one of the mods this car has seen in the past.

Posted by: Racer Chris Jan 23 2009, 10:57 AM

Lol Rich,
I don't need any of that stuff.
I have Ed!

Problem solved!
Another PO issue taken care of.
The gauges mounted in the ashtray opening were forced into position, bending one of the gauge illumination light sockets, so an intermittent short occurred.
Nothing serious.

Posted by: Casper Jan 23 2009, 11:16 AM

Does Ed make house calls?

Tom

Posted by: rmital Jan 23 2009, 12:09 PM

...he is the sensay of trouble shooting

Posted by: Cevan Jan 23 2009, 12:31 PM

Well, yes. I got a house call from Ed. He drove his teener to my house a couple of years back (in January) when I got my first 914 and helped me diagnose a non-running L-Jet car (bad dual relay) and get it running.

Posted by: Joe Sharp Jan 23 2009, 05:21 PM

I'm hoping that Ed will make a House Call out here in May. The 15th thru the 18th. It would be good to see him at the WCR. I'v had him in my car at two other west cost events.

Posted by: turboman808 Jan 23 2009, 05:36 PM

Well the wiring under the dash isn't the most inspiring thing I have scene. Looked a bit tangled up to me. I did very gently put in a Engman fuse panel thru the wiring.

I do plan on bringing the car back maybe sometime this summer for a day or 2 with fresh gauges. Get rid of that ash tray mounted gauge and put in a triple gauge and fresh tach and speedo.

Ray is supposed to be hooking me up with a early 914 backpad and seat, for which I will be forever grateful(I didn't think those were possible to get). Just add a lemans seat and leather covered dash and the whole car will be looking good.

Just why do the wheels I want got to be so expensive. I will roll on what I have for year I guess.

Posted by: r_towle Jan 23 2009, 08:33 PM

Ed is cool!!!

rich

Posted by: rick 918-S Jan 23 2009, 11:53 PM

Posted by: turboman808 Mar 18 2009, 08:20 PM

Mark sent some pictures of the gauges he made for the car. Impressive work!

Posted by: jcambo7 Mar 19 2009, 02:34 AM

Ooh pretty lights. Those are nice.

Posted by: rmital Mar 19 2009, 09:01 AM

nate...did you get an estimated time of completion?

Posted by: turboman808 Mar 19 2009, 09:18 AM

Not much more to do. Chris said it's just about ready for paint.

Posted by: rebelmdot Mar 19 2009, 12:31 PM

Who is Mark? How much were the gauges? Does he have more?

Posted by: turboman808 Mar 23 2009, 09:02 PM

Sorry can't help myself. Sweet Sweet gauge porn.

Posted by: charliew Mar 23 2009, 09:13 PM

Mark Surel, used to be Big Mark Designs He has several threads here. He has a nice green v8 914. http://www.newvintageusa.com

Posted by: turboman808 Jul 15 2009, 03:37 PM

Car is back from paint

Posted by: Cevan Jul 15 2009, 06:45 PM

Posted by: turboman808 Jul 15 2009, 08:57 PM

Could still be a figment of my imagination.

Posted by: r_towle Jul 15 2009, 10:01 PM

Nate has never owned a 914..he just visits Chris so much he feels like he owns one.

Hope to see it and hear it some day Nate...

Rich

Posted by: scottb Jul 16 2009, 06:13 AM

looks great!

last time i was visiting chris the car was in the other shop area and chris was pondering the next step......

will look forward to seeing this one back on the road....

scott

Posted by: Racer Chris Jul 16 2009, 01:27 PM

I would like to say we have started re-assembly of the trim etc., but first things first...

The transmission got stuck in two gears at once while the car has been here. I might have ignored it if this only happened once - but not twice. There is something definitely wrong.

So today Ed pulled the 916 trans apart, and it wasn't too hard to find the fault.


This little "bullet" is an interlock to prevent two gears from being selected simultaneously on the 3-4 and 5-R shift forks. It wasn't "there" when the box was opened up.


Ed found it ... here:


The thru hole is the bore for the 3-4 shift rod. The "bullet" belongs between the 3-4 and 5-R rods down here:


That's it. Problem solved! Everything else looks good inside, so its already going back together as I post this.

Posted by: turboman808 Jul 16 2009, 02:07 PM

I am sitting hear staring at these pictures you posted and trying to make sense of it in my head but I give up. LOL

Just glad I can run the car for the rest of the summer.

Posted by: Racer Chris Jul 16 2009, 03:32 PM

This is a different 915 box - essentially the same thing.
The arrow points to the 3-4 shift rod; it is in the hole shown in the previous pictures.
The "bullet" interlock piece is supposed to go below the shift rod, but we found it above the shift rod.

Posted by: Racer Chris Jul 16 2009, 03:37 PM

Since that interlock prevents 3rd and 5th from being engaged at the same time, with it out of place the potential for disaster was definitely there.

Posted by: r_towle Jul 16 2009, 11:01 PM

What are you doing for headlights???

Rich

Posted by: Dr Evil Jul 16 2009, 11:08 PM

Cool, ya cant do better than Ed

Posted by: Racer Chris Jul 17 2009, 10:11 AM

See post #107 in this thread.

Posted by: turboman808 Jul 17 2009, 11:25 AM

Oh as far as that goes it's not 100% legal but I think I know some ways to resolve that. 2 that I can think of.

One is cut out the housing so it takes a H4 bulb. Lot's of HID kits with hi/low that produce less heat then what is there now so that might be the best route down the road. This would be pretty dam slick if it worked.


or this one that moves forwards and back to make the high beam


2nd would be just drilling for another H3 bulb into the headlight bucket. Doesn't really need to be aimed, just kinda there to fill in where the cutoff it. Probably not the best way to go.

Posted by: Chris Hamilton Jul 17 2009, 11:37 AM

You could do like my HIDs, just make sure you use a high quality kit or you won't have proper cutoffs and you'll blind other drivers. My headlights are aimed to give me good coverage but they don't look any brighter than normal ones coming down the road.

Posted by: Rand Jul 17 2009, 11:38 AM

How about lenses? I remember Tony was having some glass ones made when Neo was doing the headlight in signal bucket thing. I never heard the final results.

Posted by: turboman808 Jul 17 2009, 12:11 PM

Do you have a hi and low beam?

I know Neo914 did this with the hella micro DE HID kit. He doesn't have hi beams thoufh. I just got the regular Micro DE because I knew at some point I wanted to make something that had a hi and low beam.

I would get another pair of Micro DE lights and some h4 bulbs and try and figure out how they can fit together.

Posted by: Chris Hamilton Jul 17 2009, 12:13 PM

Those are the Micro DE HID. Just low beams, but I don't drive at night that much anyways, and where I do, I don't get to use high beams.

These things are brighter than my H4 replacements in the stock doors that I used to use, and they produce less glare to drive past. It's a great combo. I just need to get some clear lenses to put on there and a full coverage hood from sheridan.

I also had to use dual 3W yellow LEDs below each one for enough brightness on the turn signals.

Posted by: turboman808 Jul 17 2009, 12:43 PM

So pretty much the same thing just you have the HID kit. I wanted to at least attempt to get a H4 hid bulb in a Micro DE case down the road. I just don't know how well those moving bulbs are going to create the cut off.

The micro DE does have a built in cutoff. It is probably possible to position the moving HID buld so that in the normal position it would use the bulbs own cuttoff and then move forward past the cuttoff to give the brights.

I am less then impressed with pretty much every HID kit I have seen to be honest. But the DE cases I can get for around $120 and a kit fo around $175. If I can get it to work that would be great. If not then I won't have wasted $600.

Thankfully Chris did all the hard stuff.

Posted by: URY914 Jul 17 2009, 02:19 PM

Chris,
you know we always check out what it in the background of the pics posted here. In post #126 you have the orange car on a wheel dolly of some sort. Are the wheels bolted to the cars A-arm mounting holes and are not connected to the rear wheels?

Tell us more

Posted by: Rand Jul 17 2009, 05:00 PM

Nice. Do have a daylight closeup of the installation?
Again, I know Tony was working on clear glass lenses that could handle the heat. Wish I knew what happened with that.

Posted by: Chris Hamilton Jul 17 2009, 05:42 PM

Daylight looks like this. These are dual 3W leds driven in parallel, so half power each.

Posted by: turboman808 Jul 17 2009, 08:36 PM

Looks a little to far forward.

I think what Chris did was pretty slick. If I remember he wasn't completely happy with it being just flat but if someone ever comes along with a nice rounded cover that would look great. I got acrylic sheets to cover it with.

I had to search to find the pictures he sent me but I think in a few days the whole front of the car is gonna look pretty sick.

Posted by: Chris Hamilton Jul 17 2009, 11:29 PM

Yeah, I had to move it forward or the sides of the housing were cutting off too much of the peripheral light. I would have liked to mount them flush.

Posted by: Racer Chris Aug 5 2009, 04:07 PM

The car is finally set to go home.
This is what it looks like all done.



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Posted by: jhadler Aug 5 2009, 04:10 PM

Wow!!



That's one nice lookin' car there...

-Josh2

Posted by: Cupomeat Aug 5 2009, 04:22 PM

Yes, this one works great with the big wheels, unlike some others that end up looking like study hall drawings of 8th graders.

Very nice, and I am digging the headlight delete. I thought I wouldn't like it, but now I do.

I am a fan!

Posted by: turboman808 Aug 5 2009, 05:31 PM

Glad you guys like I can't wait to drive it.

Posted by: Travis Neff Aug 5 2009, 06:28 PM

That looks sinister from the front. Looks great.

Posted by: Rand Aug 5 2009, 09:22 PM

Black & blue, mean & buff... I'd name it Bruiser. Looks great.

Posted by: tod914 Aug 5 2009, 09:31 PM

Wow very cool. Awesome job, I'm sure Nate will be estatic. That rear spoiler definetly works with it.

Posted by: Chris Hamilton Aug 5 2009, 09:54 PM

Can you take some pictures of the light pattern at night? I tried mine that deep and I couldn't see crap to the sides, but maybe my geometry is a bit different.

Posted by: Phoenix 914-6GT Aug 5 2009, 09:59 PM

I just love that front clip

Looks great. I bet you are just itching to g for a drive

Posted by: Racer Chris Aug 5 2009, 10:18 PM

One thing I didn't do at the back that would make it perfect is paint the little bit of blue below the bumper black so it doesn't show.

Posted by: JRust Aug 6 2009, 09:05 AM

I like that front bumper/valance combo. Is someone selling that? I've wanted a nice light one that encorporated both in one piece. Didn't know anyone was making it . Who is & how much?

Posted by: turboman808 Aug 6 2009, 10:00 AM

Kevin Groot makes it. It cost a butt load of money but looks cool. Think I paid somewhere around 800 or 1000 for it with shipping. http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=55883&hl=front&st=20

I went with the fiberglass one instead of carbon fiber incase it gets cracks I can repair fiberglass myself. Weights just a few pounds more then the carbon one.

Posted by: tag Aug 7 2009, 06:02 AM

Top notch

Posted by: ChrisNPDrider Aug 7 2009, 02:18 PM

Right! I am debating if I will ever re-attach my rear valence, and need to paint those nubs.
What was the rear valence discussion like? Pros and Cons?
It seems to me that it catches air out the back, instead of letting it pass, and covers cool lookin transaxle stuff, which I like to see.
Looks awesome, a great modern interpretation of the classic 914 GT