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Posted by: FriarJohn Jun 18 2008, 06:31 PM

I've been trying to sell my 914s for years with barely a couple of tire-kickers to show for it. I recently http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=84944 in the classifieds here and on that other site. I'm trying to figure out whether or not it's worth the trouble to part them out, or cut the price further or just let them rot away.

So, what do y'all think a '73 2.0 liter long block worth that used to run good but has been sitting for 10 years? And for that matter, what's the best way to ship an engine, on a palette?

What about a set of 15x7" 8-spoke Panasport wheels?

And a complete interior in black vinyl (nauga) gray velour inserts?

And a set of dual Weber 40IDFs?

Again, I haven't decided whether or not I'm parting them out, I'm just trying to get a feel for some values.

Posted by: SLITS Jun 18 2008, 06:57 PM

QUOTE(FriarJohn @ Jun 18 2008, 05:31 PM)

Posted by: FriarJohn Jun 19 2008, 11:24 AM

Thanks. You mostly confirmed what I was thinking, although I was hoping for a little more on the engine. It should still turn over, but I'll have to get it out of the car to check. The Panasports are "real," but one piece, cast. I'm hoping for at least a few hundred out of those.

Posted by: 914Sixer Jun 19 2008, 03:50 PM

Tight money, makes for lower prices sometimes. Then there are those that will pay any price.

Posted by: McMark Jun 19 2008, 04:20 PM

I mostly skip over ads that don't name a price. Just sharing an outside perspective.

Posted by: FriarJohn Jun 19 2008, 05:24 PM

QUOTE(McMark @ Jun 19 2008, 04:20 PM)

Posted by: Krieger914 Jun 19 2008, 07:20 PM

If your heads are in good shape they are worth more than $400. you may want to pull them off, then they are easier to ship and sell. Interior stuff seems to sell locally.

Posted by: Todd Enlund Jun 19 2008, 08:44 PM

Personally, I think that the body mods on the '73 severely limit your market. The fact that you are in Montana limits your market. I hate to see good cars parted out, but...

Posted by: E-Man Jun 20 2008, 08:07 AM

Can you send a photo (or photos) of the Panasports? I'm interested. -Mike

Posted by: boxstr Jun 20 2008, 09:07 AM

Maybe now is the time to post this in the classifieds again. Seems that some interest has been raised.
ANd pics and prices will always help sell, that is what you are doing, so give a potential buyer everything they need to make a decision.
CCLINGYM

Posted by: nsr-jamie Jun 20 2008, 09:19 AM

put it on the bay

Posted by: ericread Jun 20 2008, 09:23 AM

I agree that you should consider listing these on eBay with a minimum. It doesn't cost that much and you will get a much wider audience.

Eric Read

Posted by: dbgriffith75 Jun 20 2008, 10:34 AM

I think you should do whatever you feel like doing. If you'd rather sell it as a whole, do it; if you're feeling ambitious enough to part it out, go for that.

If you do sell the engine seperate, you're going to have to truck ship it. Even if you could package it well enough to survive UPS or Fed Ex, it's way heavier than their weight limits allow for ground ship. I agree with Slits that you should band and shrink wrap it to a skid, but there's a certain way to do it so as to minimize the risk of damage in transit. I work for a trucking company, both as a driver and a dock worker, and I can't even begin to list the damages I've seen to freight because of inadequate packaging practices. Below you'll find a diagram of the proper way to band/strap the engine:



It's pretty self explanatory. From the top view, the banding should run under the pallet as close to the engine as possible. Not all the way underneath- feed it between the space of the pallet. Hence the side view to give you a better idea of what I mean. Running the banding all the way to the edge increases the chances that it will be broken in transit, because it doesn't matter how careful a forklift operator is, skids get damaged; and if you run the banding all the way to the edge then the end boards get busted and the banding becomes useless. The engine is then just loosely floating around on the skid, and it will likely fall off in transit. If you ship the engine w/ the sheet metal in tact, I advise placing some kind of spacer over the top of the engine (2x4's are common) so that the banding does not contact the sheet metal, but is still binding the engine to the skid.

One thing I've seen places that ship used engines do is to put an old tire on the skid, then place the engine on top of the tire. It's mostly on engines w/ oil pans to make up the difference of the curve in the oil pan, but it also acts as a shock absorber since trailers can do a lot of bouncing moving down the road. It's up to you whether you want to do this or not.

And then: SHRINK WRAP! SHRINK WRAP! SHRINK WRAP!

I cannot stress this enough. This is one of the most underestimated packaging practices I've seen. Inadequate shrink wrap is one of the primary reasons why freight gets damaged- because customers think that one or two thin layers of shrink wrap is sufficient enough to hold a 7' high, 2000 pound skid together for the rigors of transport. Obviously the motor won't be that big, but you get my point.

And then, take pictures of it packaged before you ship it. Print copies to send to the buyer w/ the freight, and keep copies for yourself. Make sure to place them somewhere ON THE ENGINE, not on the shrink wrap, so that if for some reason the shrink wrap is removed during transit the buyer still has them. This way if the engine is damaged in transit, the buyer knows what it looked like when it was picked up, and can file a claim w/ the carrier instead of coming back on you for reimbursement.

That's all the advice I can give you right now. And for you and anybody else that has items they need to truck ship, don't be afraid to ask me how to properly package it if you're not sure. I personally hate trying to deliver freight that's damaged to a customer because it sends the message "We don't care about your freight." and that's just bad for business.

Good luck in whatever you decide to do w/ your car(s).

Posted by: FriarJohn Jun 21 2008, 10:26 AM

QUOTE(E-Man @ Jun 20 2008, 08:07 AM)

QUOTE(boxstr @ Jun 20 2008, 09:07 AM)

Posted by: FriarJohn Jun 21 2008, 10:51 AM

QUOTE(dbgriffith75 @ Jun 20 2008, 10:34 AM)

Posted by: RJMII Jun 21 2008, 12:19 PM

QUOTE(dbgriffith75 @ Jun 20 2008, 10:34 AM)

I think you should do whatever you feel like doing. If you'd rather sell it as a whole, do it; if you're feeling ambitious enough to part it out, go for that.

If you do sell the engine seperate, you're going to have to truck ship it. Even if you could package it well enough to survive UPS or Fed Ex, it's way heavier than their weight limits allow for ground ship. I agree with Slits that you should band and shrink wrap it to a skid, but there's a certain way to do it so as to minimize the risk of damage in transit. I work for a trucking company, both as a driver and a dock worker, and I can't even begin to list the damages I've seen to freight because of inadequate packaging practices. Below you'll find a diagram of the proper way to band/strap the engine:

Posted by: dbgriffith75 Jun 22 2008, 12:43 PM

I'm glad my advice helped you guys out. Sounds like you went the extra mile on packaging yours RJMII, which is a good thing.

Like I say, sometimes it doesn't matter how careful a forklift operator is- damages happen. But by doing what you can to help protect the shipment is one more step to prevent damage.

And once again, if anybody isn't sure how to package something for truck ship, don't be afraid to ask. I'm more than happy to tell you what I know.