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Posted by: boxstr Sep 4 2008, 11:29 AM
An excellent 74 914 3.2 very nice conversion with Patrick Motorsport engine, leather interior. This will be the donor car for a transplant into a 75 914 2.0 4 cylinder.
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Posted by: rjames Sep 4 2008, 12:53 PM
Nice looking 914. Why seperate the motor from it?
Posted by: Rand Sep 4 2008, 01:34 PM
And a Rennshifter? Looks like a nice car. I was also wondering why a donor? Got a bad hell hole?
Posted by: carr914 Sep 4 2008, 01:53 PM
Isn't this the car that was on eBay a couple of weeks ago with a Buy-It-Now of $22,800?. Only bid to $13,600. Looks and sounds like a nice conversion.
T.C.
Posted by: 736conver Sep 4 2008, 02:24 PM
Isn't this the car that was on eBay a couple of weeks ago with a Buy-It-Now of $22,800?. Only bid to $13,600. Looks and sounds like a nice conversion.
T.C.
Yep thats the car.
* Carrera engine rebuilt in 2007
* lightened flywheel
* webbers have been modified for this engine
* new clutch
* new exhaust headers and muffler
* Rennshift with linkage, stock transmission
* Carrara front suspension and brakes
* vented rear brakes with working emergency brake
* stainless steel braded brake lines
* new paint (original Porsche Olympic blue)
* new carpet
* new dash
* new leather seats
* new windshield
* new door covers
* new gauges
* new high torque starter
* new front mounted oil cooler
* new rear bumper pad
* new fiberglass rear hood
* new front and rear european lenses
* new B/F Goodrich P215/40ZR16 G-Force Sport
* 16x7 Fuchs
* Koni rear shocks
Lots of goodies to make it a donor car?!?!?
Posted by: jasons Sep 4 2008, 02:24 PM
How much for the roller?
Posted by: messix Sep 4 2008, 02:33 PM
lets see 
a really clean '74 switched back to a 4 = 8-9 k easy, and convert a 75 or 76 to a six goes from maybe a 5-6 k car to 12-13k car = money way ahead.
just a possibilty
Posted by: Cupomeat Sep 4 2008, 02:37 PM
Ok, so the only idea here is to bring a 74 back to a stock 4 as it is worth more than a 75-76 stock 4?
I can't see the logic still.
Of course, some people just like to change things and that is login in itself.
Posted by: Root_Werks Sep 4 2008, 02:37 PM
Someone got a six laying around? Talk nice to Craig and he might, mind you might just know someone who can throw in another six instead of the 2.0-4. ......Since it'll be all apart anyway.
Posted by: 736conver Sep 4 2008, 02:48 PM
lets see
a really clean '74 switched back to a 4 = 8-9 k easy, and convert a 75 or 76 to a six goes from maybe a 5-6 k car to 12-13k car = money way ahead. just a possibilty
His reserve was $18,900. If thats what it sold then according to your numbers you lose money. Unless time/labor is free.
Posted by: messix Sep 4 2008, 03:10 PM
lets see
a really clean '74 switched back to a 4 = 8-9 k easy, and convert a 75 or 76 to a six goes from maybe a 5-6 k car to 12-13k car = money way ahead. just a possibilty
His reserve was $18,900. If thats what it sold then according to your numbers you lose money. Unless time/labor is free.
i doubt it sold for 19k, and the figures i used are prolly no where near accurate. clean nice cars are going for alot more than i can believe. craig isn't knew to this and i'm sure he isn't gonna lose any money on this deal. i bet he has a buyer for both cars, and he won't be losing money on either deal.
Posted by: 736conver Sep 4 2008, 03:15 PM
lets see
a really clean '74 switched back to a 4 = 8-9 k easy, and convert a 75 or 76 to a six goes from maybe a 5-6 k car to 12-13k car = money way ahead. just a possibilty
His reserve was $18,900. If thats what it sold then according to your numbers you lose money. Unless time/labor is free.
i doubt it sold for 19k, and the figures i used are prolly no where near accurate. clean nice cars are going for alot more than i can believe. craig isn't knew to this and i'm sure he isn't gonna lose any money on this deal. i bet he has a buyer for both cars, and he won't be losing money on either deal.
Correct he isnt "knew" at this. Nobody would drop that kind of cash without a plan. It just fun guessing whats going on isnt it
Posted by: messix Sep 4 2008, 03:45 PM
lets see
a really clean '74 switched back to a 4 = 8-9 k easy, and convert a 75 or 76 to a six goes from maybe a 5-6 k car to 12-13k car = money way ahead. just a possibilty
His reserve was $18,900. If thats what it sold then according to your numbers you lose money. Unless time/labor is free.
i doubt it sold for 19k, and the figures i used are prolly no where near accurate. clean nice cars are going for alot more than i can believe. craig isn't knew to this and i'm sure he isn't gonna lose any money on this deal. i bet he has a buyer for both cars, and he won't be losing money on either deal.
Correct he isnt "knew" at this. Nobody would drop that kind of cash without a plan. It just fun guessing whats going on isnt it
I no you new what i ment!
Posted by: Rand Sep 4 2008, 04:57 PM
For sure Craig knows what he's doing, so there's a good reason. Curious.
And now he's got a buzz going about it. Genius! Kinda like McCain's VP choice creating a media frenzy.
Posted by: Phoenix 914-6GT Sep 4 2008, 10:50 PM
That car sounds like a sweet car. I'm interested to see what all becomes of all of this. 
Craig has all the cool toys 
Posted by: boxstr Sep 4 2008, 11:39 PM
Heading north on Friday to see the transplant doctor. Pics to follow.
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Posted by: rhodyguy Sep 5 2008, 07:42 AM
gee, i'd like to look at that car. maybe both of them. i've never driven a car with a 3.2 in it. yet...
Posted by: boxstr Sep 5 2008, 08:23 PM
Heading out early this morning. The girls are all lined up checking out the action.
There is Kevin checking out the cars.
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Posted by: Rand Sep 5 2008, 08:34 PM
There is Kevin checking out the cars.
Which one is Kevin??
Sorry K, couldn't resist.
Looking forward to the rest of the story.
Posted by: rjames Sep 5 2008, 08:49 PM
Maybe someone is just buying the engine to put into their late model car?
Posted by: rhodyguy Sep 5 2008, 08:56 PM
the 5 lug look is growing on me.
Posted by: Gary Sep 5 2008, 10:22 PM
Dang Kevin,
If'n I knew you were heading down, I woulda asked you to grab my bumper. 
Posted by: boxstr Sep 5 2008, 11:03 PM
Gary I brought your bumper up with me to Kevins. Kevins is the whiteface 
Hey Kevin I have a Carrera front suspension"complete" at CAMP.
Plus a set of 5 Lug 16x6 Fuchs with new tires.
CCL
Posted by: Gary Sep 5 2008, 11:16 PM
Sweet!
Kevin's not seen my ride yet - might sell him on the 5 lug look some more. 
Posted by: rhodyguy Sep 6 2008, 07:29 AM
24 hrs complimentary storage on front bumpers and tops gary. 
they're here and waiting for you. give me a call/leave message to arrange retreval. i'll be gone after 8am.
let's see...5 lug conversion or a paint job...better roll the fenders before i paint..."i'll take paint for $3k alex".
k
Posted by: rhodyguy Sep 6 2008, 10:02 AM
and they're off to lake stevens.
Posted by: sixnotfour Sep 6 2008, 11:20 AM
Is your car running ? I thought it had an issue ?
Posted by: boxstr Sep 7 2008, 12:32 AM
Kevin That 4 cylinder motor will be for sale.
Maybe we can make a deal.
CCL
Posted by: Root_Werks Sep 7 2008, 03:31 PM
Work began yesterday. The suspension swap is taking some time. Nice alum cross membered carerra stuff on the blue car going into the yellow one. Stock 914-4 redrilled stuff all going into the blue car. Yellow car will even get the vented rear rotors now. Both with working E-brakes even!
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Posted by: Root_Werks Sep 7 2008, 03:38 PM
More from the swap...
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Posted by: Root_Werks Sep 7 2008, 03:39 PM
Small crack in a weld on the muffler, easy fix. 
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Posted by: Root_Werks Sep 7 2008, 03:40 PM
Engines still in the cars. Hopefully pulling them today...
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Posted by: Root_Werks Sep 7 2008, 03:41 PM
Last one for now.
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Posted by: rhodyguy Sep 8 2008, 08:47 AM
i don't think i can afford the 2.0 with l-jet and all that would be included.
k
Posted by: rhodyguy Sep 8 2008, 08:48 AM
i don't think i can afford the 2.0 with l-jet and all that would be included.
k
Posted by: rhodyguy Sep 8 2008, 08:48 AM
i don't think i can afford the 2.0 with l-jet and all that would be included.
k
Posted by: Lavanaut Sep 8 2008, 11:01 AM
PLEASE!!! add more quotes to your replies. quotes of quotes, lots of them too. enough of them so we have to scroll way down the page.
...yeah! Either that, or triple-post at least!
Posted by: Phoenix 914-6GT Sep 8 2008, 11:02 AM
I don't think it is going to change anything by saying it three times
Posted by: So.Cal.914 Sep 8 2008, 11:26 AM
I don't think it is going to change anything by saying it three times It worked for Dorthey:
Posted by: Root_Werks Sep 8 2008, 11:33 AM
The 2.0 L-Jet is a nice engine. I drove that back up from Kevins. Lots of power for 2 liters.
Posted by: messix Sep 8 2008, 12:25 PM
Dan i tried calling you last evening 'bout 6ish to see ifn' i could come by and take a look see and shoot the chit, no answer. 
Posted by: r_towle Sep 8 2008, 12:55 PM
Why are you doing this swap?
Is the blue car lacking something? paper? to much rust???
Rich
Posted by: Root_Werks Sep 8 2008, 02:29 PM
Why are you doing this swap?
Is the blue car lacking something? paper? to much rust???
Rich
Not my car Rich, but after seeing both cars the owners yellow 914-4 is simply a better car. Both are nice examples of 914's, but the blue one has had AC in it at one time and a couple of repairs done to it. The yellow 4cyl is much more original and the owner has spent time and money making it really nice. Just wants more power.
To whoever picks up the blue car, they'll be getting a great start onto what ever way they want to go. It's going back to Camp 914 as a roller and the engine/trans seperate.
Oh Troy, did you try my cell? I'm working on both cars everynight this week. Swing on by.
Posted by: JRust Sep 8 2008, 03:22 PM
I thought the L-jet only came on the 1.8
Posted by: rdauenhauer Sep 8 2008, 03:26 PM
it did. but there no reson you cant swap it onto a 2.0.
Posted by: Porsche Rescue Sep 9 2008, 03:31 PM
I think the '76 912E had a type IV 2.0 with L-jet.
Posted by: seanery Sep 10 2008, 11:17 AM
Jim Chambers - where ya been?!!!
Posted by: Root_Werks Sep 10 2008, 11:52 AM
After pulling the engine the other night and splitting the tranny to replace a RMS, I noticed this. 
Lucky to have caught this now. It'll take a little doing to fix it. 
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Posted by: Root_Werks Sep 10 2008, 11:55 AM
3.2 liters of fury!
Roller is back to Kevins this evening and then back to CAMP914 soon after. Owner decided to leave the external oil cooler set up with lines in the blue car. This is a great donor car for another six engine. The work is already done.
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Posted by: carr914 Sep 10 2008, 07:51 PM
This exhaust is going out to be installed.
T.C.
Posted by: Porsche Rescue Sep 11 2008, 12:11 AM
Jim Chambers - where ya been?!!!
Hi Sean,
2 years ago my wife retired and we moved 300 miles south to
Ashland, OR. Before the move I sold my 2 914's, kept a 928. Couldn't stay off the internet and bought a very nice '76 914 from Maine in Sept. '06. In April '07 sold the 914 and 928 and bought a super nice 912 targa. Decided it would be my only toy car. Then decided no more old Porshes, sold the 912 and my wife's SLK, bought a '06 Carrera last April. We would be a two car family like normal people (Audi Wagon is the "family" car, us and 2 dogs). I have only a 2-car garage but have a lift so can store 3. Told wife I was going to sell the lift. She said no, wait at least a year (she didn't trust me). She was right. I made it from April to August. Found a 1-owner '70 914 on Craigs List in Weed, CA ,75 miles south of Ashland. So, I'm baaack! And glad to be here too!
Posted by: Root_Werks Sep 11 2008, 08:07 AM
Jim, Jim, Jim, you were out and we pulled you back in! 
Posted by: rhodyguy Sep 11 2008, 08:10 AM
the roller is ready to roll. away...
k
Posted by: Root_Werks Sep 11 2008, 08:12 AM
The blue 914 was loaded up and brought down to rhodyguy's (Kevins) place to be picked back up by CAMP914. The owner decided to leave the blue car as a roller and sell the 2.0 seperate from the car. The blue car is all still plumbed with the external oil cooler and holes/provisions for a factory style 914-6 oil tank so it'll hopefully find a good home again soon.
From here begins the long road of assembling the yellow 914. I haven't started doing much on that one yet. 90% of time has been spent getting to this point on the blue car. Michelle and I didn't get home until around 11PM last night. Man, I am sleepy. 
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Posted by: carr914 Sep 11 2008, 08:14 AM
Jim, Welcome back and we need some pictures of the new ride.
T.C.
Posted by: rhodyguy Sep 11 2008, 08:50 AM
11pm. wow. so much for a casual wed evening. the roller is ready to roll. AWAY!!!!...ha
Posted by: seanery Sep 11 2008, 10:11 AM
Nice to have you back, Jim!
Posted by: Porsche Rescue Sep 11 2008, 11:09 AM
Car is a "diamond in the rough". All original, no rust found yet. Irish green/tan (factory paint) without appearance group (no sail vinyl or chrome bumpers). I'll post some "before" pics soon. At my speed it will take a couple of months to do the detail work it needs.
Interesting history. PO bought it new in St. Louis while in graduate school after army duty. Became an overseas US teacher (shop) and took the car while teaching 4 years in Panama Canal Zone in early '70's. Has "turista" stickers from several Central American countries because he and wife drove it back to the states from there. After that it remained state side as he did 17 years in Saudi Arabia and most recently Camaroon. They came home every summer and that's when the car was driven. Has only 111K miles. He just retired and decided he wanted to replace it with a Boxster.
Posted by: markb Sep 11 2008, 08:18 PM
Jim, Welcome back and we need some pictures of the new ride.
T.C.
Welcome back, Jim.
Posted by: sixnotfour Sep 11 2008, 10:33 PM
T.C.
Welcome back, Jim.
Jim I will be coming Ashland next week , PM me, I like to stop by and say hi, if possible.
Good work Dan.
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Posted by: JRust Sep 12 2008, 12:30 AM
Dibs on the roller
Posted by: r_towle Sep 12 2008, 07:21 AM
Car is a "diamond in the rough". All original, no rust found yet. Irish green/tan (factory paint) without appearance group (no sail vinyl or chrome bumpers). I'll post some "before" pics soon. At my speed it will take a couple of months to do the detail work it needs.
Interesting history. PO bought it new in St. Louis while in graduate school after army duty. Became an overseas US teacher (shop) and took the car while teaching 4 years in Panama Canal Zone in early '70's. Has "turista" stickers from several Central American countries because he and wife drove it back to the states from there. After that it remained state side as he did 17 years in Saudi Arabia and most recently Camaroon. They came home every summer and that's when the car was driven. Has only 111K miles. He just retired and decided he wanted to replace it with a Boxster.
That is a great story. I hope you can manage to keep the stickers in place and in pristine condition...its what gives these cars a history...
I friend of mine if finishing up a 356A that has a similar world travel history.
To bad all the stickers are gone, but he did snag a great vintage suit case to put on the rear lugggage rack that has alot of the same stickers, and he is buying stickers as he can find them to complete the "story" of the car...
So cool where these cars have been and the things they have seen...
Rich
Posted by: Root_Werks Sep 19 2008, 08:55 PM
Quick update on the yellow car. Got the 911 suspension all put in, turbo tie rods, aluminum cross member, all the good stuff.
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Posted by: Root_Werks Sep 19 2008, 08:56 PM
Couple of the oil tank holes drilled. Those who know, there are 2 left to go. Very clean 914, really nice engine bay. It'll get all cleaned up etc...
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Posted by: Root_Werks Sep 20 2008, 06:39 PM
Couple more quick updates, the damage to the clutch tube on the trans was pretty bad.
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Posted by: Root_Werks Sep 20 2008, 06:40 PM
I couldn't pull the tube out of the throw out bearing because it mushroomed. Yikes....
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Posted by: Root_Werks Sep 20 2008, 06:43 PM
All better!
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Posted by: Root_Werks Sep 20 2008, 06:44 PM
3.2 and 901 mated once again....
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Posted by: Root_Werks Sep 20 2008, 06:46 PM
Bottle neck now is parts delivery. Waiting on an RJ mount, the Heater/Headers from TC, muffler and I think that's it?
Valves adjusted and replaced the RMS as well.
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Posted by: Root_Werks Sep 20 2008, 06:48 PM
Oil tank in. Engine bay is really clean and did a little painting underside just as a PM. As soon as I can get the RJ mount, the engine trans will get hung and the little stuff can start getting hooked back up.
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Posted by: number6 Sep 20 2008, 07:24 PM
Oil tank in. Engine bay is really clean and did a little painting underside just as a PM. As soon as I can get the RJ mount, the engine trans will get hung and the little stuff can start getting hooked back up.
dan, i'm ordering a pair of wevo ss trans mounts and will rush them up your way
-duc
Posted by: carr914 Sep 20 2008, 07:29 PM
All better!
Good Work, Dan. Looking Good.
Duc, you are going to have a fun car.
T.C.
Posted by: number6 Sep 20 2008, 08:00 PM
All better!
Good Work, Dan. Looking Good.
Duc, you are going to have a fun car.
T.C.
I so can't wait! And I'm so glad I went this route, with Dan going over everything to make sure all is right.
Anyone have a complete Motronic FI setup for a 3.2? Can't hurt to ask, right? OK, I'll go post in the WTB/classifieds section...
-duc
Posted by: number6 Sep 20 2008, 08:03 PM
All better!
you are the man, dan!!
Posted by: Root_Werks Sep 20 2008, 09:48 PM
All better!
Good Work, Dan. Looking Good.
Duc, you are going to have a fun car.
T.C.
Mucho thanks, parts of the project have been pretty laborous but fun! Glad to be able to sort some things out. My plan if parts arrive in time is to have Duc's 914 on the road by next weekend.
Posted by: number6 Sep 20 2008, 09:58 PM
Mucho thanks, parts of the project have been pretty laborous but fun! Glad to be able to sort some things out. My plan if parts arrive in time is to have Duc's 914 on the road by next weekend.
dan, please don't tease me like that!
Posted by: Root_Werks Sep 23 2008, 09:38 PM
Probably about the worst picture ever, but the RJ mount is in, paint drying for the night.
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Posted by: rjames Sep 24 2008, 11:32 AM
Yer a friggin' machine, Dan! Lookin' good! 
Posted by: Root_Werks Sep 24 2008, 10:28 PM
T.C. - The BB headers made it today just fine. Thanks for boxing everything up so nice. So this 914-6 will now have heat!
Posted by: carr914 Sep 25 2008, 05:48 AM
Cool, I was going to send you a pm to see if they got there. I'm looking forward to seeing this all come together. 
T.C.
Posted by: dinomium Sep 25 2008, 07:08 PM
Bottle neck now is parts delivery. Waiting on an RJ mount, the Heater/Headers from TC, muffler and I think that's it?
Valves adjusted and replaced the RMS as well.
I want one of those, with green covers please.
thanks, Santa Dan
Posted by: number6 Sep 25 2008, 07:29 PM
The blue roller is all sad to be without a power plant. Won't someone please give her a good home and get her back on the road? Details in the classifieds section
Posted by: shaqdiesel Sep 27 2008, 02:08 AM
The blue roller is all sad to be without a power plant. Won't someone please give her a good home and get her back on the road? Details in the classifieds section
what happened to the strong 2.0 liter four- is it for sale
Posted by: number6 Sep 27 2008, 02:27 AM
The blue roller is all sad to be without a power plant. Won't someone please give her a good home and get her back on the road? Details in the classifieds section
what happened to the strong 2.0 liter four- is it for sale
The motor is now back at Camp and ready for a new home. She comes COMPLETE and ready to go. Plug'n'play! Fuel injection, powdercoated tin (manifolds, too), K&N, Pertronix electronic ignition, blue coil, external oil cooler (grill-mounted) with modified raintray...everything...even an easy-drain oil change valve. Clutch assembly, too! Asking $4,000 or best offer, which I think is very fair, given its completeness and proven reliability. Dynoed at ~115hp (limited by the stock FI), while still remaining fuel efficient. Properly broken in, does not leak a drop, completely reliable. Only 7K miles. Still under warranty. And very fun!
OK, end sale pitch
(I'm a little ashamed of how dusty/dirty the engine is in photo below...but, unfortunately, it's the only pix I have. She's usually cleaner.)
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Posted by: Root_Werks Sep 28 2008, 09:21 PM
Lots of work over the weekend. Engine is in.
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Posted by: Root_Werks Sep 28 2008, 09:24 PM
Those SS BBoat headers look cool. Duc is bringing up the triad muffler this week and this project should be buttoned up pretty quick.
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Posted by: Root_Werks Sep 28 2008, 09:27 PM
Wirring is non-exsistant due to the blue donor conversion having the harnes cut out, so I didn't have anything to bring over to the yellow car unless I wanted to rob parts from the perfectly good running 2.0 FI I pulled out. Not an option so I dug through my stash and found what I needed. Whew! Now onto getting everything wired up.
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Posted by: Phoenix 914-6GT Sep 28 2008, 09:31 PM
When he comes up to pick up the car I would like to come see
Looking good Dan. Good work as always.
Posted by: number6 Sep 29 2008, 03:33 AM
Those SS BBoat headers look cool. Duc is bringing up the triad muffler this week and this project should be buttoned up pretty quick.
Dan, you are the man!
Yikes, I need to detail the undercarriage, don't I? The wheels will be clean, at least. Just got them back from the powdercoater.
Also got the Wevo semi-solid trans mounts. So sweet and purdy!
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Posted by: Root_Werks Sep 29 2008, 08:19 AM
When he comes up to pick up the car I would like to come see
Looking good Dan. Good work as always.
I'll be working on it after about 5PM each day until it's done. Swing on by anytime.
Duc - those rims look amazing! It'll be great to get the car back down on it's shoes again. I know 914's love jackstands, but even they get tired of them after a while.
Posted by: Root_Werks Oct 1 2008, 11:13 PM
What a freegeen mess. All done on the underside and just the wiring to go now. All the heater stuff is hooked up and looks great. Ready for any PNW weather.
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Posted by: Root_Werks Oct 1 2008, 11:15 PM
All the detail stuff takes a long time to finish up. The wirring really is easy for me. Been there done that dozens of times by now. I almost have what terminals to what memorized. But I don't, so I am looking for my 10+ year old cheat sheet. Around here somewhere.....
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Posted by: Phoenix 914-6GT Oct 2 2008, 12:20 AM
Wow Duc, your car is looking really nice.
Posted by: number6 Oct 2 2008, 12:38 AM
Wow Duc, your car is looking really nice.
thanks, jon! all the credit goes to dan, of course. he's done a really incredible job. for anyone in the area looking for this kind of work, i highly recommend him. he's a nice guy, to boot.
i think i'll be
this weekend. wohoo!Posted by: Phoenix 914-6GT Oct 2 2008, 01:01 AM
Wow Duc, your car is looking really nice.
thanks, jon! all the credit goes to dan, of course. he's done a really incredible job. for anyone in the area looking for this kind of work, i highly recommend him. he's a nice guy, to boot.
i think i'll be
this weekend. wohoo!Let us know. I live right by Dan. Dan does do nice work and is a very nice guy. I would recomend him to anyone looking for help or needing work
Posted by: bcheney Oct 2 2008, 05:46 AM
Dan & Duc, You guys make a great team. So much enthusiasm and excitement to close the deal and get the car on the road. You are inspiring me to finish my car! I have a 75 the same color that is getting converted by yours truly...I may need some tips on wiring... My buddy TC's supply of HE's to ya should make the those cold morning drives really nice. Keep the updates coming.
Brian
Posted by: carr914 Oct 2 2008, 05:57 AM
the Ducster's looking GOOD.
Brian, you need the motivation. Get working on your car, I want to see it running some day
T.C.
Posted by: Root_Werks Oct 2 2008, 08:58 AM
I should have had it running last night, but I fell a day behind on Tuesday when a bunch of teeners got together for 
Posted by: messix Oct 2 2008, 02:56 PM
i wonder if i my car goes into dans garage if it will just magically come back out coverted to a six and five lug?
Posted by: Phoenix 914-6GT Oct 2 2008, 03:00 PM
i wonder if i my car goes into dans garage if it will just magically come back out coverted to a six and five lug?
I'm sure it could if you magically gave Dan a few thousand dollars
Posted by: messix Oct 2 2008, 03:01 PM
i wonder if i my car goes into dans garage if it will just magically come back out coverted to a six and five lug?
I'm sure it could if you magically gave Dan a few thousand dollars
only a few huh?
Posted by: Phoenix 914-6GT Oct 2 2008, 03:13 PM
I guess that depends on what you have and what you want
Posted by: number6 Oct 2 2008, 03:40 PM
Dan & Duc, You guys make a great team. So much enthusiasm and excitement to close the deal and get the car on the road. You are inspiring me to finish my car! I have a 75 the same color that is getting converted by yours truly...I may need some tips on wiring... My buddy TC's supply of HE's to ya should make the those cold morning drives really nice. Keep the updates coming.
Brian
brian, if by team, you mean me sitting tight and leaving dan alone to work his magic, then yes, we make a good team
my car's a '75, too. back-dated bumpers. color is not quite stock (viper yellow, which is a little lighter than what was on the car originally - don't recall orig color off the top of my head...it wasn't canary yellow...one of the other offerings for '75).
hope you get your car running soon. hopefully you have another 914 you're driving? not having mine for a month has been tough - i don't know how others can manage so long while working on theirs. yup, TC's HEs came just in time - it's getting wet and cold here. would not have been pleasant driving w/o them, for sure. even back a month ago when i drove the donor blue car back from california, i was freezing during the night drive. i'm wussy that way - i like being able to feel my toes
-duc
Posted by: Root_Werks Oct 2 2008, 05:20 PM
i wonder if i my car goes into dans garage if it will just magically come back out coverted to a six and five lug?
Mines next.
Posted by: jsayre914 Oct 2 2008, 06:24 PM
Those wheels look awesome!! 
Posted by: number6 Oct 3 2008, 01:34 AM
Those wheels look awesome!!
Muchas gracias, Joseph. Yeah, the powdercoater did a good job. I'm not usually a polished-wheel kinda guy (I much prefer the satin/anodized look of the stock finish), but I think it's a good choice for a yellow car, especially w/ chrome bumpers. Plus, polishing & powdercoating was less than half of traditional refinishing. (For those considering the latter, Wheel Enhancement does really amazing work, BTW. I had them do the wheels for my other car, and the result far exceeded my expectations!)
With the wheels all shiny-new, I think I'm going to have to dress up my tires now. Yikes. I never thought I would turn into one of "those" guys. Haha.
Posted by: Root_Werks Oct 3 2008, 08:26 AM
Got Duc's 914 fired off last night. Zzzzzzzz, up a little late. Wound up with a small oil leak from the suction line at the tank and the crack on the muffler I didn't weld up is anoying. My mig is out of gas (Tank empty) and Duc is getting a triad anyway, so not going to fix that one. But, I'll figure out what's leaking on the oil line, hook up the last elect for gauges, puke tank and test drive hopefully tomorrow.
Duc - I might keep the 914 through the weekend to sort out little things and drive it to work Monday/Tuesday. You could pick it up from there maybe? I'll let you know.
Almost done!
Posted by: morgan_harwell Oct 3 2008, 08:57 AM
>Those SS BBoat headers look cool.<
Once you get your car back, would you mind posting your thoughts about how well the SS headers w/heater boxes heat up the cabin and keep the windshield from fogging up?
I've heard complaints in the past about the aftermarket heat exchangers not being able to even defrost a windshield.
I've been driving my /6 conversion year round without a heater since 1987. It sure would be nice to have a heater once in awhile 
. The $$$ for heat in a 914/6 are quite high. It would be nice to know if the $$$ get you what you expect.
Posted by: Root_Werks Oct 3 2008, 09:05 AM
Morgan, another local club member in my area has an original six with the B&B heater boxes. The air flow is good, but they never really get hot like the factory units do. The GHL units are about the same I have heard. Good air flow, but only so-so heat is produced. Around here in the PNW, they are a must have if you drive your car year round. They will keep you warm enough and keep your windows clear. On an icy morning, I don't think they would defrost anything though.
Most places seem to be around $2k a set for SS Heater boxes now. Duc got a very good deal on his. $2k is a lot to spend on heat, or warm air I guess. If your under 200hp, I'd try to find a set of good used factory units and have them cleaned and coated.
Posted by: Phoenix 914-6GT Oct 3 2008, 02:40 PM
Got Duc's 914 fired off last night. Zzzzzzzz, up a little late. Wound up with a small oil leak from the suction line at the tank and the crack on the muffler I didn't weld up is anoying. My mig is out of gas (Tank empty) and Duc is getting a triad anyway, so not going to fix that one. But, I'll figure out what's leaking on the oil line, hook up the last elect for gauges, puke tank and test drive hopefully tomorrow.
Duc - I might keep the 914 through the weekend to sort out little things and drive it to work Monday/Tuesday. You could pick it up from there maybe? I'll let you know.
Almost done!
I think you should swing by tomorrow. I will be working on a Pissat in the morning if you go for a test drive my way.
Posted by: Root_Werks Oct 3 2008, 02:58 PM
It'd be in the afternoon if I can. Kid has football tonight, I have classes tomorrow, then I gotta actually work on Duc's 914 again to finish it up. So I may not actually get to go for a first drive until Sunday? Plus, I was hoping a couple people would chime in on the Dave\Kori TV delivery thread. If so, that'll suck up an afternoon or morning as well. My weekend is disapearing quickly.
Posted by: number6 Oct 3 2008, 03:28 PM
Got Duc's 914 fired off last night. Zzzzzzzz, up a little late. Wound up with a small oil leak from the suction line at the tank and the crack on the muffler I didn't weld up is anoying. My mig is out of gas (Tank empty) and Duc is getting a triad anyway, so not going to fix that one. But, I'll figure out what's leaking on the oil line, hook up the last elect for gauges, puke tank and test drive hopefully tomorrow.
Duc - I might keep the 914 through the weekend to sort out little things and drive it to work Monday/Tuesday. You could pick it up from there maybe? I'll let you know.
Almost done!
she's alive!
dan, mon/tues works for me. as much as i'm looking forward to having the car back, i'd much rather be patient so you can log some miles and shake out any bugs. plus, if it's tues-ish, i'll be able to stop by triad on the way home and get the new exhaust, which saves me a trip to olympia otherwise.
well, i better go get some work done, because next week is not looking good for productivity
Posted by: rdauenhauer Oct 3 2008, 03:53 PM
It'd be in the afternoon if I can. Kid has football tonight, I have classes tomorrow, then I gotta actually work on Duc's 914 again to finish it up. So I may not actually get to go for a first drive until Sunday? Plus, I was hoping a couple people would chime in on the Dave\Kori TV delivery thread. If so, that'll suck up an afternoon or morning as well. My weekend is disapearing quickly.
Not to
but are we delivering that this WE if so I gotta call Kori
Posted by: Root_Werks Oct 3 2008, 05:16 PM
Rich, call her and ask if we can Sunday early or Saturday afternoon. I posted in the ALS thread just today.
Posted by: number6 Oct 3 2008, 08:24 PM
>Those SS BBoat headers look cool.<
Once you get your car back, would you mind posting your thoughts about how well the SS headers w/heater boxes heat up the cabin and keep the windshield from fogging up?
I've heard complaints in the past about the aftermarket heat exchangers not being able to even defrost a windshield.
I've been driving my /6 conversion year round without a heater since 1987. It sure would be nice to have a heater once in awhile
. The $$$ for heat in a 914/6 are quite high. It would be nice to know if the $$$ get you what you expect.Morgan, you are harder core than me. Is your 914 a daily driver? Mine is, and I really rely on heat, especially when the weather turns like now. But even in summer, driving with top off on a cooler day/night, my heat is crankin'. 914 enjoyment greatly diminishes for me when I can't feel my toes. I know, I'm a pansy
Re: these SS HEs... I'm sure my experience will be exactly as Dan has commented, not only because he's owned and built many 6s, but also because the HEs I now have were originally his (from the blue car that is now in TC's care). Like you, I'm hoping for decent heat, but I'm setting my expectations low, so I don't get too disappointed. I know that seems a strange stance given the cost of SS HEs...but it helps that these are (I think!) proper headers (with just heater boxes built around them), so there's a performance advantage. At least that's what I think/hope! Can't say for sure since I haven't had a chance to measure the pipe lengths, etc. I'm looking forward to having Dave @ Triad give me his opinion on them from a performance perspective.
Maybe others with 6s can chime in about their experiences...and advice for improving heating performance for us newbies???
Posted by: Root_Werks Oct 5 2008, 10:27 PM
There was an oil leak I think becuase the lower line from the tank had like 3 adapters on it. I couldn't get it to no leak so I welded up one of these.
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Posted by: Root_Werks Oct 5 2008, 10:30 PM
Drove it around today for a bit. Seems fine. Two things that puzzle me a bit are the dash light stopped working (Driving at night ones on the gauges) and the blue donor car never had the alt idiot light hooked up. I hooked it up and it never goes out. Car also get bellow 12 volts with lights on. Ugh, I checked everything, it's all good.
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Posted by: Root_Werks Oct 5 2008, 10:32 PM
One more, Duc's 914 looks great! Very tight and the heater works much better than I thought it would. Very well sorted 914 now!
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Posted by: number6 Oct 6 2008, 02:26 AM
Drove it around today for a bit. Seems fine. Two things that puzzle me a bit are the dash light stopped working (Driving at night ones on the gauges) and the blue donor car never had the alt idiot light hooked up. I hooked it up and it never goes out. Car also get bellow 12 volts with lights on. Ugh, I checked everything, it's all good.
Dan, you just made my day, thank you
It's so good to see the car back on her feet!
The electrical issues...ay! I'm glad you're an ace in that department. Shaking out those kinds of bugs drive me bonkers! And it's always a bad ground or something silly, too, isn't it?
If you have a moment, can you snap a shot of the new engine bay? I could really use something to tide me over...because the anticipation is killing me!
I wanna
Oh, I wanna
!
Posted by: carr914 Oct 6 2008, 07:30 AM
Dan, Good Work . Duc, your going to have a nice car . Glad I could be part of your project.
T.C.
Posted by: Root_Werks Oct 6 2008, 08:50 AM
Drove it into work this morning, 30 miles. The 914 did great, nice to have heat, smooth, lots of power No dash lights is anoying so I'll try to get that one squared up along with the alternator issue. I did run with the lights on all the way in, the lights never dimmed, car was clean and strong. I pulled into work, shut off the 914 and it re-fired like it was 100%.
It could be me or something I missed. But the little alt light is still on.
Posted by: number6 Oct 6 2008, 03:04 PM
Dan, Good Work
. Duc, your going to have a nice car . Glad I could be part of your project. T.C.
T.C., those heat exchangers will be used daily! Thank you again for the great deal
Strange...total deja-vu with this new message of yours. I've seen it before, word for word! Maybe my subconscious is surfing 914world while I sleep...
-duc
Posted by: Root_Werks Oct 6 2008, 10:27 PM
Well, anoying that I couldn't figure out the alternator issue. When I got home I threw up my arms and looked over at my newly acquired purple 914 and thought (I know, a dangerous past time) and pulled the VR from that and stuck it in Duc's car. Alt light went right out and car started charging again. Why the original one wasn't working? Duc, you owe me a VR.
Looks like the little oil leak is fixed and I installed the fuel gauge in the dash and fixed the gauge cluster lights. Whew! I think I'm done!
Duc, I'll e-mail you and probably bring the 914 down Wednsday to work. I won't drive it tomorrow.
The drive home was crazy with rain and Duc's 914 did amazingly well. It did start to fog up, but always kept clear windows were needed. Sweet! Took my over 90 minutes to go the 30 miles home due to all the rain and 2 accidents. The 914 never missed a beat.
Posted by: number6 Oct 6 2008, 10:39 PM
Well, anoying that I couldn't figure out the alternator issue. When I got home I threw up my arms and looked over at my newly acquired purple 914 and thought (I know, a dangerous past time) and pulled the VR from that and stuck it in Duc's car. Alt light went right out and car started charging again.
Why the original one wasn't working? Duc, you owe me a VR. Looks like the little oil leak is fixed and I installed the fuel gauge in the dash and fixed the gauge cluster lights. Whew! I think I'm done!
Duc, I'll e-mail you and probably bring the 914 down Wednsday to work. I won't drive it tomorrow.
The drive home was crazy with rain and Duc's 914 did amazingly well. It did start to fog up, but always kept clear windows were needed. Sweet! Took my over 90 minutes to go the 30 miles home due to all the rain and 2 accidents. The 914 never missed a beat.
Dan, I'll say it again: You are the man!
Spoke to Dave @ Triad today, and Wednesday will be perfect, as I'll be able to pick up the exhaust on the way home.
And, Dan, you can just keep my old voltage regulator. Hahaha.
Dare I ask what the problem was w/ the instrument lights?
-duc
Posted by: Gint Nov 1 2008, 12:25 PM
So... that's it?
I just read through this entire thread. Looks awesome.
But what was the problem with the dash lights? Where are the pictures of the completed car out running around in the Pacific Northwest sunshine? What size are those new wheels Duc? Look like 16x7's to me. Is your transaxle a /4 unit and still have the standard gearing setup?
BTW... 
Posted by: Root_Werks Nov 1 2008, 12:49 PM
Yup that pretty much completed this project. Duc has the 914 back and is still fighting the alternator/charging issue. The dash lights I actually wound up running a litte bit of new wirring to cure that one. Under the dash of Duc's yellow 914 had been "worked" on before. It made tracing original wiring difficult. Plus we added a 911 combo gauge and seperate fuel gauge etc.
Hey Duc, I know your 914 is still at your Mechanics, any pictures for us now that it is back home?
Posted by: number6 Nov 1 2008, 02:10 PM
So... that's it?
I just read through this entire thread. Looks awesome.
But what was the problem with the dash lights? Where are the pictures of the completed car out running around in the Pacific Northwest sunshine? What size are those new wheels Duc? Look like 16x7's to me. Is your transaxle a /4 unit and still have the standard gearing setup?
BTW...
Thanks, Gint. Yup, the wheels are 16x7. They were on the car before - I just had them powdercoated and re-polished. Yup, /4 gearbox w/ stock gears, for now. I want to switch to fuel injection asap, with better gearing on the list to follow.
Pictures of car running around now-RAINY PNW to come, as soon as I get the car back, hopefully this week.
Posted by: number6 Nov 1 2008, 02:20 PM
Yup that pretty much completed this project. Duc has the 914 back and is still fighting the alternator/charging issue. The dash lights I actually wound up running a litte bit of new wirring to cure that one. Under the dash of Duc's yellow 914 had been "worked" on before. It made tracing original wiring difficult. Plus we added a 911 combo gauge and seperate fuel gauge etc.
Hey Duc, I know your 914 is still at your Mechanics, any pictures for us now that it is back home?
Hey Dan. No pix, unfortunately. I've been just up to my neck with work - so much so, I haven't even missed the car all that much (and that's scary!). Have just left my mechanic alone to go through everything. All but one leak fixed, so I'm stoked!
There's an expert in town who specializes in tweaking the old-style voltage regulators who's going to look at the car this up-coming week. If all goes well, that will be it, and the car will finally come home. I can't wait. Though I'm a little nervous now that the wet weather is here.
Posted by: Root_Werks Nov 3 2008, 10:30 AM
Well, remember to be cautious with the alt issue. I mailed back the original VR to you. It certainly isn't a 3.2 alternator in there and when you mentioned it was running 18VDC that is usally a sign of a bad VR. There is no voltage regulation going on. When I did put my VR from my purple 914 on there, it did work for what, 2 days? That was a very old school mechanical relay, the good ones you cannot buy anymore either. Keep that one and see if your mech can repair or alter that one. There the ones you can actually work on. Like the old 356/VW 6volt regs.
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