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Posted by: ldscamaross Sep 23 2008, 06:46 PM
hey just had a quick question. have you guys ever toed a 914 with just a trailer dolly with the drive train gone. did you have any trouble with the rear bearings. can it be towed with the back wheels on the ground.
Posted by: Mark Henry Sep 23 2008, 06:50 PM
It's fine as long as you don't have the axles on it.
Posted by: cobra94563 Sep 23 2008, 07:00 PM
I have also towed backward on a dolly (rear wheels up), as well as flat-towed w/o drivetrain.
Posted by: Cap'n Krusty Sep 23 2008, 07:17 PM
Yes, but you MUST have the stub axles installed and tightened properly. Obviously, you can't have the driveshafts attached to the stubs .................
In fact, any time you move a 914 or 911 (or any other car with this type of wheel bearings) with the wheels on the ground, you have to have the stub axle (or a suitable substitute) in the bearing.
The Cap'n
Posted by: ArtechnikA Sep 23 2008, 07:19 PM
It's fine as long as you don't have the axles on it.
if you don't have axles on it, you'll trash the rear bearings pretty quick...
Pull the halfshafts, disassemble the stub axles, put the stubs back in, torque 'em up, drive happy...
Posted by: JRust Sep 23 2008, 07:34 PM
Tow it backwords. Easiest way without screwing with your rear axles. I've towed it this way a few times without any poblem. Just make sure you lock up your steering wheel up with a strap. You've got to make sure it's locked in place somehow.
Posted by: lotus_65 Sep 23 2008, 07:40 PM
funny, i have to do the same thing this weekend.
because i have never disassembled the rears i looked at the pelican diagrams. it looks like lots of parts. it's surely as easy as ArtechnikA says, maybe someone has pics?
Posted by: Mark Henry Sep 23 2008, 08:03 PM
It's fine as long as you don't have the axles on it.
if you don't have axles on it, you'll trash the rear bearings pretty quick...
Pull the halfshafts, disassemble the stub axles, put the stubs back in, torque 'em up, drive happy...
Sorry I did mean the drive axle, might be a tad hard to flat tow a car without stub axles, might be a tad hard to attach your wheels to a car without stub axels
But I guess answers have to be moron proof
Posted by: ArtechnikA Sep 23 2008, 08:16 PM
...might be a tad hard to attach your wheels to a car without stub axels
It's not - tho - the hubs will stay in for a little while...
( FWIW - I knew what you meant, but I felt an expansion was appropriate due to the volume of new owners. The 'experienced guys' can gloss over a few "assumed" steps but the beginners are reading these threads literally... )
responding to the other posts...
Remember the halfshafts turn at wheel speed, which is maybe 1000 rpm. You do not want to see what happens to the undercarriage when a halfshaft goes flailing around at 1000 rpm. I don't think I'd trust bungies to be a bearing.
it -should- be as easy as pull the cotter pin, use an impact wrench and 30mm socket to loosen the big nut, and withdraw from the inside. Sometimes they will get stuck, especially if the PO didn't assemble them with antisieze... put the nut back on inverted (castellations in) to no more than flush with the end of the stub axle shaft, and tap only as much as needed with a brass or bronze hammer to loosen.
Then you can remove the 12-point "triple-square" CV bolts with the halfshaft clamped comfortably between the soft jaws of a vise.
Posted by: vsg914 Sep 23 2008, 08:30 PM
If ya tow it on a dolly backwards,TIE THE REAR TRUNK DOWN!!!!, and make sure the top is latched good.
Posted by: orange914 Sep 23 2008, 10:23 PM
I have also towed backward on a dolly (rear wheels up), as well as flat-towed w/o drivetrain.
i wouldn't recomend that, at speed anyway. been there done that. it was a full size bronco but even with the stearing wheel locked down, the front gets real squirely.
Posted by: boxstr Sep 23 2008, 11:33 PM
I have towed 914s ass backwards many times, and they do get squirrley at 75+MPH, but then that is over the posted speed limit and yioui won't break the law now will you??
It will work fine, just make sutre all lids are secure and the steering wheel is locked down.
CCLINTOWMEOUTTOTHEBREAK
Posted by: jd74914 Sep 23 2008, 11:41 PM
If ya tow it on a dolly backwards,TIE THE REAR TRUNK DOWN!!!!, and make sure the top is latched good.
Watch out for loose rear windows too. It would suck to have that then your windshield pop out.
Posted by: ldscamaross Sep 24 2008, 12:30 AM
thanks guys. i was going to get the stubs and put them in for the bearings sake but i just wanted a second opinion. thanks
Posted by: Wes V Sep 24 2008, 10:32 AM
Yes, but you MUST have the stub axles installed and tightened properly. Obviously, you can't have the driveshafts attached to the stubs .................
In fact, any time you move a 914 or 911 (or any other car with this type of wheel bearings) with the wheels on the ground, you have to have the stub axle (or a suitable substitute) in the bearing.
The Cap'n
totally agree on the need!
Wes
Posted by: iamchappy Sep 24 2008, 12:42 PM
Lock steering wheel up and your go to go...
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